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GUNS/RLTD Is There No Bottom To AR Prices? $260 AR Carbine Kit (Will Need Lower)
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    Is There No Bottom To AR Prices? $260 AR Carbine Kit (Will Need Lower)

    Daily Deal prices - $300 total.

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    BLEM PSA 16" M4 Carbine Length 5.56 NATO 1:7 Nitride Freedom Rifle Kit - 507617B

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    How fortunate that I have everything I need right now, or I’d find you and bitch slap you for being such an enabling rat bastard...

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    There might still be some who are unprepared.

    Just trying to look out for those folks - or anyone who needs to add a basic carbine for a spouse, child, grandchild or whoever.

    Buy cheap, stack deep. Winter is coming.

    PSA is the current Arsenal of The Republic IMO.
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    PSA is the current Arsenal of The Republic IMO.


    I can’t argue against that one bit.

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    I am contemplating buying enough of the mid legth ones to finish all the lowers I have. At that price I don't think you can go wrong.

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    I bought 5 of those pistol kits, one for me and one for each grandchild. lucked out with a local dealer and got 5 consecutive numbered lowers at $49.99,

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    To clarify, this is a KIT - not only will it be necessary to add a stripped lower receiver to the above, assembly is required as well. And a simple optic or some other rear sight will be needed also.

    But no old timer would have thought you could get a basic AR carbine for $300 in 2019...
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    For most engagements in and around the home, I'd like this one:

    https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...165449175.html

    PSA 10.5" 5.56 NATO 1/7 Nitride Classic Shockwave Pistol Kit, Black - 5165449715

    Also only $259.99!!! And it has the added bonus of being an eye poke to the BATFE.

    I do wish they'd start having them in with the freefloat HG again though.

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    Buy cheap get cheap. Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.

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    They've been having some lower pricing on railed AR-10 uppers at PSA this week as well as the AR-15 basic carbine and basic pistol kits under $300.

    If you need some of this hardware and want it from PSA, get on their email list. It's 2 emails per day and some of the sale prices are not listed on the front page at PSA. Those are email-only sale prices for the first day, maybe two, then they go on the website front page deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmomaha View Post
    Buy cheap get cheap. Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.
    Not with PSA. They have great equipment. The best bang for the buck (no pun intended) in the domestic firearms field.

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    While I have a personal poor opinion on AR type rifles in general, a $300 rifle that uses easily available magazines and ammo further secures the serfs against a gobt turned tyrannical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911user View Post
    They've been having some lower pricing on railed AR-10 uppers at PSA this week as well as the AR-15 basic carbine and basic pistol kits under $300.

    Last year or so, I bought their built AR10 Gen2 lower and their built AR10 Gen2 upper. I bought them separately. Paid UNDER $500 between them. I challenge ANY MANUFACTURER IN THE COUNTRY to beat that. Aside from being gassed way too hot, I have no complaints at all, and the overgassing is easily addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmomaha View Post
    Buy cheap get cheap. Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.
    They are inexpensive, they aren't cheap. If they were a bad manufacturer, PSA wouldn't have the following and consumer base that they do, and the internets would be full of bad reviews.

    There are/were many "cheap" AR manufacturers (Blackstone, Hesse, Vulcan, Davidson, RedX, Aero in their infancy, and many others). Those that are left tend to be better, or acquire a stigma that follows them (like Century). The internet has done wonders for the consumer's discernment.

    Also, once the kinks are worked out of the shop and the materials standardized on what works, the AR (which is a nearly 80 year old design) is an efficient machine that is easily and cheaply mass produced.....and it is only getting easier and cheaper as time and technology march on.

    The M16/M4s I was issued were made by the lowest bidder (though at a still inflated rate). Anything mil-spec or better is good enough for me.....once thoroughly tested. Of course I wear out at least one AR barrel per year......

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    Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.

    Everyone who has ever served in the military has done exactly that. It's called "lowest bidder."

    PSA made stuff is INEXPENSIVE - not cheap. There is a difference...
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    Lowest Bidder vs. Lowest Bidder to meet the required specifications and quality requirements..... meeting mil-spec ain't cheap or easy.

    Having the required purchasing and manufacturing records, material certifications from approved suppliers, lot checks, certified processes, quality checks, etc. is not easy.

    Most don't know how hard it is to really meet "mil-spec".

    Also, mil-spec is not absolutely better than a high-end commercial product. However there is a good record of exactly how it was built, exactly what materials were used, and exactly what processes were used in the build cycle. People who falsify those records can, and sometimes do, go to jail.
    Last edited by 1911user; 05-10-2019 at 05:58 PM.

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    My buddies PSA stopped working one day while we were shooting. He said it had just over 10,000 rounds through it. Turned out to be a broken bolt, but the bolt wasn't PSA it was a BCM.

    Anything can break. The PSAs run well in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackpine Savage View Post
    Anything can break. The PSAs run well in my experience.
    My experience as well. I own and use PSA stuff, but understand it is commercial equipment.
    Do thorough testing on anything you're going to rely on before it's needed. Also know how to repair it when things wear or break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    How fortunate that I have everything I need right now, or I’d find you and bitch slap you for being such an enabling rat bastard...
    Aw but I have all sorts of room needing filling, and but for the kindness of enabling bat rastards, I wouldn't know where to begin.
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    not only are the PSA ar,s inexpensive, I just got 6 glock factory 33 rnd 17 magazines. for $29 each, that will go to the PSA 9mm AR pistol I built using there parts.

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    If you depend on an AR-15, at minimum you should have a field repair kit plus a spare bolt assembly and bolt cam pin with the firearm. As much for lost parts as breakage.

    Some of my friends have been 6610s in a previous life. https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-over...00/fws6610.pdf

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    PSA has sold complete spare bolts for 50 bucks. I agree on having a complete bolt as well as some common spare parts.

    On another board someone thinks their gas tube gave out or something, ar became a single shot. They used it for mag dumps, not sure if they used it for bump stocks while those were legal or not.

    Thing on prices is to some extent since all these companies are up and running at some point prices will be below normal cost of things cause they need to move product, and no way could a start up sell em at that price.

    Combat arms has had some uppers without bolt or latchy dohicky for cycling bolt. $118 shipped for upper I think it was. Assembled.

    On the psa uppers you can just buy a rear sight tall enough to work with the front sight gas block or look at other options.

    I got a bunch of carry handles during a texas flood sale several years ago, so cheap to grab stuff sometimes and now they are handy to have around.
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    curious if you guys have actually tried the "freedom "rifles or kits? They seem like a great value, but was curious bout actual experience.....
    In a previous thread bout psa ar's people commented on everything but the freedom rifles. The prices of these are very tempting. Btw are their ammo deals good or are there better places to buy ammo?

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    Are you talking about the PSA “freedom” models? If so, I have a “freedom” upper that I bought for my TB2K commemorative lower. It’s currently mounted to my GG lower with the binary trigger installed. I took it to the range a few weeks ago and ran 200 rds through it, “rapidly” (heh), to test the trigger. Not a single FTF or FTE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intowolves View Post
    curious if you guys have actually tried the "freedom "rifles or kits? They seem like a great value, but was curious bout actual experience.....
    In a previous thread bout psa ar's people commented on everything but the freedom rifles. The prices of these are very tempting. Btw are their ammo deals good or are there better places to buy ammo?
    PSA has some good ammo deals. But right now there are a lot of places with good deals. I've probably bought more from Natchez Shooters Supplies over the years than all the others combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
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    This may be the worst review I have ever seen. Hand made targets with a big ass circle....aim small miss small. I have several 1/7 twist barrels and every one including my Daniel Defense and my BCM and PSA shoot about 2-3 inch groups in the 62 grain green tip, green tip has never been accused of being made for accuracy...... stopping at 62 grain and assuming the barrel is less accurate with heavier load is just ignorant. I have to say I am surprised you got anywhere close to 1 inch with lighter grain bullets but you are shooting a barrel that loves 69-77 grain bullets. It would have been nice to see what something along the line of 77 grain sierra match kings would have done thru it.
    Uh, you have a 1/7 twist barrel and your heaviest bullet weight is 62gr? ANd you are doing an accuracy test with no match ammo? No Black Hills 77gr TMKs? No Mk262? No 69gr match loads? And you used M855 which is universally known to be piss-poor at everything except punching through sheet metal.

    "Estimated distance to the target is around 80 to 90 yards."

    So which is it? 80 or 90? The ten yards doesn't matter so much as the sloppiness your uncertainty indicates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmomaha View Post
    Buy cheap get cheap. Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.
    Equipment is 10% of the battle, you can drop $3,000 on an AR...doesn't make you a trained shooter, doesn't even make you a shooter...just makes you some guy who put a premium price point over experience and training.

    Guys have run Armored Division 2G-ACM with crap like a CA WASR-10 and Hi-Point C9 running a cheap chicom rig and Hawaiian shirt, just for shits and giggles...walking away in the top five of the entire match.

    You don't trust your life to hardware, you train and learn how to operate, because what's available it is not always going to be "the best".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmomaha View Post
    Buy cheap get cheap. Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.
    I don't trust ANY firearm until I've put at least 500 rounds through it.
    I don't want to. I'm not going to. You can't make me. I'm retired!

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    Well teeeechnically the 'bottom' was when I posted a couple months ago that the 7.5" AR pistol uppers and complete lower build kit were going for $240!!!:-O:-O Add a lower and a magazine and you've got a $290. 7.5" AR pistol! The .300 blackout in 7.5 or 8.5 was $260 a couple weeks ago!! That site is addicting!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Not with PSA. They have great equipment. The best bang for the buck (no pun intended) in the domestic firearms field.
    With PSA that may be true. I know the AK they make is pretty good. Tried and tested by the AK47/74 Operators Union to the max. My main AR is a LMT Defender 2000. IMHO they are the best fighting rifles out there. The only problem is that they are hard to find. Mine is very accurate. More so than the BCM I have. Fit and finish are second to none. But then my go to rifle is a WASR AK47 that has been customized.


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    Quote Originally Posted by intowolves View Post
    curious if you guys have actually tried the "freedom "rifles or kits? They seem like a great value, but was curious bout actual experience.....
    In a previous thread bout psa ar's people commented on everything but the freedom rifles. The prices of these are very tempting. Btw are their ammo deals good or are there better places to buy ammo?
    I have been finding good deals on ammo from SGAmmo.com.

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    Just signed up for PSA’s daily deals. Gonna require some restraint on my part. Their prices on quality kit are amazing. Get it while you can though...dark days may be coming.

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    yes thats exactly the models I was inquiring about. Thanks for your input, may keep a closer eye on em from now on.

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    $29 stripped lower...$260 Blem, 16" build kit.

    $600, stainless, Mlock AR-10. order upper & lower separate.

    https://palmettostatearmory.com/daily-deals-new.html
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    And it's a mid-length upper too -
    https://palmettostatearmory.com/blem...rifle-kit.html
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    Do not get me started on Hesse. Bought a FN-FAL clone from them. Took a trip to the local smith to get it working right. Of course, once I did, it has worked flawlessly but still....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post


    To clarify, this is a KIT - not only will it be necessary to add a stripped lower receiver to the above, assembly is required as well. And a simple optic or some other rear sight will be needed also.

    But no old timer would have thought you could get a basic AR carbine for $300 in 2019...
    True that, but the upper comes fully assembled. You only have to build the lower, which is not too awfully bad. The hardest part of assembling the lower is the forward takedown pin - it has a detent pin (which is used to keep the takedown pin itself "captive" to the rest of the lower) that can be a real pain to install. Be prepared to lose a detent pin or two flying across the room! It's advisable to buy a spare parts kit (also available from PSA) that includes several detent pins.

    Here's one of many fine videos on how to assemble an AR lower:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssRHUUos3w

    I recently purchased one of PSA's stripped lowers for about $40. Mine turned out quite well but their "paint" job is a bit splotchier than others I've seen. Still worth the money, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffy View Post
    The hardest part of assembling the lower is the forward takedown pin - it has a detent pin (which is used to keep the takedown pin itself "captive" to the rest of the lower) that can be a real pain to install.
    I've never understood this. I've assembled countless lowers, and never lost a detent pin.

    Place spring. Place detent pin. Press back detent pin with the end of the front takedown pin, and press FTDP into its hole when it is lined up. No tools necessary for assembly of this part, and it is insanely easy. I just don't get it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Raffy View Post
    Mine turned out quite well but their "paint" job is a bit splotchier than others I've seen. Still worth the money, though.
    Any fighting rifle should get a paint job to match the environment anyway. Trying to duplicate multicam is a good idea. Some guys will advocate different things. Options include cerekote, duracoat, gunkote, or rattle can finishes. They all have their advantages in terms of cost, durability, customizability, and time.

    I usually try to get an FDE basecoat in a more durable finish (though sometimes I just rattle can this on as well, 'cuz....impatience), topped with rattle can camo and a flat clear coat to increase durability. It may chip with hard use, but it does the job and can always be touched up. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmomaha View Post
    Buy cheap get cheap. Don't trust your life to a cheap rifle.
    I have used mine plenty and it works just fine. I paid a bit more, but that was when prices were higher.

    Is it a sub 1in moa at 1000 yards? Nope! Will it go bang and be reliable to do the job? Yes!

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