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  1. #121
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    If this turns into a shooting war, I don't think it's going to turn out well for us at all. If the rest of the U.S. hating world smells American blood in the Gulf, I believe they're going to take advantage of the situation. This could really be the tipping point.

  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Between what was already in theater and these "additions", message sending aside, there's enough US force there to literally change the regional power balance in under 24 Hours. Adding to all of this, between the current domestic situation and the butcher's bill already owed by the IRGC and the muhllahs it's easier to explain why Trump should "do it" than not, particularly if it were a "sincere" strike plan...Yeah I know, I'm just a well of happy thoughts (sarc)....
    This is a potential false flag not good

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    Quote Originally Posted by billet View Post
    If this turns into a shooting war, I don't think it's going to turn out well for us at all. If the rest of the U.S. hating world smells American blood in the Gulf, I believe they're going to take advantage of the situation. This could really be the tipping point.
    IMO, Any actual US navy ships in the gulf when the shooting starts will be lost due to the overwhelming amount of ordnance which will be thrown at them. Every fishing boat or speed boat will be armed with some type of missiles plus you'll kamikaze boats going after the navy ships. Then you'll have artillery and missiles being fired from the iranian coastline

    As the google map I linked to below shows the Iran coastline runs the length of the persian gulf and the gulf of oman. The persian gulf is only 35 miles at its narrowest location

    tbd


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    Here are two more articles on the US forces going to Iran, and their motivations.
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    'Aircraft carrier sent to Middle East after indications Iran planned attack on US forces

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    luis martinez
    andmeridith mcgraw

    May 5, 2019, 11:38 PM ET






    The United States is deploying an aircraft carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the Middle East on short notice in response to "clear indications" Iran and Iranian proxies were planning an attack on U.S. forces in the region, a U.S. official said.


    Late Sunday night, the White House made a surprise announcement that the USS Abraham Lincoln and a bomber task force were being deployed in response to unspecified "troubling and escalatory indications and warnings."

    A statement from National Security Adviser John Bolton said the deployments were intended "to send a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force."

    "The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or regular Iranian forces," the statement continued.

    A U.S. official told ABC News the deployments were in response to "clear indications" Iranian and Iranian proxy forces were preparing for a possible attack, and that the decision to send forces was made on Sunday.

    "The movement of the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln to the region was expedited, and it was ordered there effective immediately," said the official.

    The carrier is currently in the Mediterranean after leaving Norfolk, Virginia, on April 1. The Navy no longer provides destinations for its carrier deployments, but the carrier likely would have had to transit through the Middle East toward its new home port of San Diego at the end of its deployment.
    (MORE: US ends waivers for Iran oil sanctions, tightening economic pressure on regime)

    The aircraft carrier USS John Stennis operated in the Persian Gulf twice during its recent deployment, for three weeks earlier this year and a week in early April.

    "It’s something we’ve been working on for a little while," Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told reporters traveling with him to Europe. "It is absolutely the case that we have seen escalatory actions from the Iranians, and it is equally the case that we will hold the Iranians accountable for attacks on American interests."

    Pompeo did not provide specifics on Iran's potential actions, but said Iran "should understand about how we will respond to actions they may take" and that for any actions by related third-parties or proxies "we will hold the Iranian leadership directly accountable for that."

    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=62843182

    .........


    The oil route that could be at the center of a U.S. warning of 'unrelenting force' against Iran

    Rick Noack, The Washington Post Published 7:50 am EDT, Monday, May 6, 2019



    After what national security adviser John Bolton called "a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings," the U.S. government said Sunday that it was deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln carrier strike group and a bomber task force to the U.S. Central Command (Centcom) region.

    Centcom's operational area includes the Middle East and Central Asia, but Bolton's statement indicated that U.S. attention was primarily focused on one country: Iran.


    The move's intended message, Bolton said, was to send a "clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force."

    It was not immediately clear what prompted concerns over an Iranian attack.

    After withdrawing from the 2015 Iran nuclear treaty, the Trump administration has put significantly more pressure on Iran in recent months by imposing sanctions on Iranian oil exports and by blacklisting Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization.

    While Bolton's strongly worded statement to announce additional measures over the weekend was as unusual as those previous moves, the deployment of additional U.S. resources to the region amid heightening tensions has become a more regular occurrence: The reason is the narrow stretch of water at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz.

    Amid threats from abroad, Iran has often been quick to remind the world of its key location along one of the world's main oil tanker routes. It once again threatened to close that key transport route in recent weeks. When Bahrain, a Persian Gulf nation with a sizable U.S. troops presence, threatened that it would not allow Iran to proceed with such a move, an Iranian official responded: "Mind your small size and do not threaten someone bigger than yourself."

    The Strait of Hormuz is one of the world's most crucial transport routes for oil. About a third of the world's oil tanker traffic passes through the strait, which is bordered by Iran and Oman. In 2016, 18.5 million barrels of petroleum were shipped through it every day, making it the world's single most important maritime route for many nations' oil supplies.

    Theoretically, Iran could attempt to cut off the Strait of Hormuz - which connects the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Oman - by deploying its naval vessels or laying mines, which could take months to clear. At its narrowest point, the strait's shipping route is only two miles wide. But the U.S. military has extensive footholds in the region, including the headquarters for the Navy's 5th Fleet in Bahrain.

    If theStrait of Hormuz were inaccessible, the world's supply in shipped daily global oil exports would suddenly drop by about 30 percent, experts predict. Overall oil supplies would drop by about 20 percent, according to numbers compiled before the recent U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil exports took effect.

    Some of the oil may be rerouted via pipelines that have been expanded over fears of an Iranian-Western clash, but those are still limited in capacity and more expensive.

    As a result, oil prices would immediately spike, as Arab oil suppliers would lose their market access either entirely or to a large extent. Given the global economic repercussions, the United States and other adversaries of Iran would likely take military action. The United States would not be the only nation interested in resolving a dispute as quickly as possible, however, as the vast majority of supplies are delivered to Asian markets, in particular to Japan, India and China.

    Iran has made similar threats before, for instance, in 2011, 2012, 2016 and 2018.

    Some of those threats were intended to be rhetorical, at least in the short run. Last July, for instance, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani implied that Iran had the power to severely disrupt the oil trade in the Persian Gulf, which would likely have meant an attempt to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. Rouhani later appeared to repeat his veiled threat and was quoted on his official website as saying: "Mr. Trump! We are the people of dignity and guarantor of security of the waterway of the region throughout the history. Don't play with the lion's tail; you will regret it."

    Trump eventually responded on Twitter, writing that Iran "WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE," in case it threatened the United States.

    But prior incidents have shown how serious both nations take the Strait of Hormuz, and how easily maneuvers could escalate. In 2016, Iranian naval vessels veered close to American warships in the strait, prompting a U.S. warning. "These are incidents that carry a risk of escalation, and we don't desire any kind of escalation," Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook warned Iran at the time.

    With more U.S. military assets headed into the region, the likelihood of an escalation has once again inched up.

    https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/a...a-13821828.php
    “Then the creatures of the high air answered to the battle, .., and the woods trembled and the wind sobbed telling them, the earth shook,; the witches of the valley, and the wolves of the forests, howled from every quarter and on every side of the armies, urging them against one another.”
    ― Lady Gregory, Gods and Fighting Men: The Story of the Tuatha De Danaan and the Fianna of Ireland

  5. #125
    What, exactly, are "American interests" in the ME?

    Which "American allies" are Team Bolton concerned about?

    Broad area of possibilities.

    Interesting that Team Bolton and Team Pompeo are the primary mouthpieces regarding all of this - rather than Team Trump.

    More American J6P blood and treasure on the menu?

    What does J6P think about that possibility?

    And, then there is the perpetually out-to-lunch-bought-and-paid-for U.S. Congress . . .

    Best representation that (dirty) money can buy.


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  6. #126
    Guy Elster‏Verified account @guyelster · 38m38 minutes ago

    #BREAKING US carrier was sent to the Gulf after #Israel's Mossad alerted Washington about a possible #Iran|ian attack against US forces: channel 13

  7. #127
    Barbara Starr‏Verified account @barbarastarrcnn · 2h2 hours ago

    Just In: US officials tell me the threats from Iran included “specific and credible” intelligence that Iranian forces and proxies were targeting US forces in Syria, Iraq and at sea. There were multiple threads of intelligence about multiple locations, the officials said. #Iran

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    Quote Originally Posted by northern watch View Post
    Barbara Starr‏Verified account @barbarastarrcnn · 2h2 hours ago

    Just In: US officials tell me the threats from Iran included “specific and credible” intelligence that Iranian forces and proxies were targeting US forces in Syria, Iraq and at sea. There were multiple threads of intelligence about multiple locations, the officials said. #Iran
    So now the Iranians will simply shift their focus to the naval forces. I feel deeply sorrowful for the crewmen of those ships. They're being sent to their demise..... and FOR WHAT?

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    What exactly is a bomber task force?

  10. #130
    @IntelCrab · 25m25 minutes ago

    Sources within the state department are monitoring possible 'escalation" from #Iran in response to recent carrier deployment.

  11. #131
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    "The new US intelligence showed that Iran drew up plans to target US forces in Iraq and possibly Syria, to orchestrate attacks in the Bab el-Mandeb strait near Yemen through proxies and in the Persian Gulf with its own armed drones, the US officials said"

  12. #132
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    IRAN SEEN MOVING BALLISTIC MISSILES BY BOATS IN PERSIAN GULF -- CNN QUOTES U.S INTELLIGENCE
    3:40 PM · May 7, 2019 · Twitter Web Client
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    Rudra
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    Moving where?

    EndGameWW3
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    Got me

    Dillon Wise
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    This I literally justification for Bolton now. This is not good

    LEAFSFAN
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    Bolton loves this

    Watchdog
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    Could be true, but I don't believe CNN's fake news for 1 minute till there's a link or source. The Corrupt News Network is a globalist owned entity that's been proven to encourage wars and spread dis-info on a global scale.

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    Where are they taking them by BOATS? 🤔

  13. #133
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    #BREAKING: Iranian forces seen moving ballistic missiles by boats in the Persian Gulf- CNN quotes US intelligence sources

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    #BREAKING: The Pentagon is considering sending additional firepower to the region including anti-missile defense systems (Patriot batteries), the officials said, however no final decision has yet been made- CNN

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    Iran moving ballistic missiles by boat, US officials say
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    Speculation but may not be too far from the truth, let’s see how this plays out
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    Pompeo is now in Baghdad for emergency negotiations via Iraq. Remember it's in the middle of the night over there.
    If that fails, it is feared that the U.S will launch pre-emptive strikes on the Iranian assets moving the missiles
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    I’m curious if any of this came from that rumor of the Iranian General who defected with intel and showed up at a US embassy. That was like two weeks ago if I’m not mistaken.

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    If USA is starting to bomb "Iranian" targets in Iraq - the US soldiers there will be attacked from all sides...
    That would be a stupid move and a nightmare.

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    I posted a pic of an old reuters article that said Iran moved missiles to Iraq in August 2018. This current situation is seen as last-minute responses. Your thoughts?

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    No way the US would kick off a war right now, I think the US is overplaying this to try and justify an attack on Iran.

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    Oil supplies need to be secured for Iraq before a hit on Iran, Iraqi oil supply is basically all Iranian oil, Iraq has to agree to being supplied by others i think this is the assurance that they need before Iran is hit.

  14. #134
    Babak Taghvaeeț @BabakTaghvaee · 52m52 minutes ago

    #Breaking: #IRGC Navy has transferred Khalije-Fars anti-ship and Hormuz-1 & 2 SEAD Ballistic missiles to #Yemen & several #Iranian Islands near #HormuzStrait & in #PersianGulf to use them against #USNavy USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft carrier group in case of war.

    Babak Taghvaeeț @BabakTaghvaee · 2h2 hours ago


    #Breaking: According to the #US Diplomatic Sources, #IRGC Quds Force & its #Iraqi proxies might carry-out attacks against #US military forces which are currently based in #Iraq. Secretary #Pompeo is now in #Baghdad negotiating with Iraqi government officials about this issue
    .

  15. #135
    IntelSky 📡 ✈ț @Intel_sky · 4h4 hours ago

    🚨 Four B-52 bombers are being deployed to Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar from Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, arriving on Wednesday in response to the threats of a possible attack by Iran or allied fighters on American troops in the region.

  16. #136
    INTELLIPUSț @intellipus · 39m39 minutes ago

    Guessing (since they have a major fortified launch base there) of a placement at Abu Musa island and ranging for the Persian Gulf missile's listed range of 300km
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    From INTELLIPUSț @intellipus · 49m49 minutes ago

    Guessing (since they have a major fortified launch base there) of a placement at Abu Musa island and ranging for the Persian Gulf missile's listed range of 300km
    Attached Images

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    Well we are lucky so far that the gas prices are staying stable, mine is staying around 2.89.99 per gallon.

    South western lower Mi. area............

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    Gregor Peter‏ @L0gg0l · 1h1 hour ago

    IRAN HAS DECIDED TO STOP IMPLEMENTING SOME PARTS OF NUCLEAR AGREEMENT -- FOREIGN MINISTER ZARIF IN MOSCOW


  20. #140
    Gregor Peterț @L0gg0l · 2h2 hours ago

    Pompeo is now in Baghdad for emergency negotiations via Iraq. Remember it's in the middle of the night over there.
    If that fails, it is feared that the U.S will launch pre-emptive strikes on the Iranian assets moving the missiles

  21. #141
    Why is this administration starting a war - we can't win?

    Are they on acid?

    Seriously - would any of you encourage your sons or grandsons to go to war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulter View Post
    Why is this administration starting a war - we can't win?

    Are they on acid?

    Seriously - would any of you encourage your sons or grandsons to go to war?
    Gotta keep the oil flowing, baby...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmanan View Post
    Well we are lucky so far that the gas prices are staying stable, mine is staying around 2.89.99 per gallon.

    South western lower Mi. area............
    Here in CT the prices run from 2.89 up to 3.15 per gallon for Regular.

    Who knows where a price shock may take those prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northern watch View Post
    Gregor Peter‏ @L0gg0l · 1h1 hour ago

    IRAN HAS DECIDED TO STOP IMPLEMENTING SOME PARTS OF NUCLEAR AGREEMENT -- FOREIGN MINISTER ZARIF IN MOSCOW

    Peter, I need to help you a little bit:


    "IRAN HAS DECIDED TO publicly admit to STOP IMPLEMENTING SOME PARTS OF NUCLEAR AGREEMENT -- FOREIGN MINISTER ZARIF IN MOSCOW"


    My shocked face has been so over used I can't find it anymore...
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    Steve Herman‏Verified account @W7VOA · 38m38 minutes ago

    After assuring #Iraq government the US stands ready to protect its sovereignty against #Iran, @SecPompeo departs Baghdad.

  26. #146
    Current Local Time in Tehran, Iran

    2:35 AM

    https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/iran/tehran

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    Can someone speak to the size of the briefcase Pompeo was carrying in Baghdad???


    Or whether he was even CARRYING ONE???

    It matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    Here in CT the prices run from 2.89 up to 3.15 per gallon for Regular.

    Who knows where a price shock may take those prices.

    WOW love that state, I lived in New London/Groton area while I was in sub school and the when got out of school was sataioned their for about a year on a sub.

    Nice area back in 1975/77 don't know what it is like now.

  29. #149
    ‏ @IntelCrab · 14m14 minutes ago

    For those curious, assuming she originated near #Italy and is traveling at a steady 20-30 knots, CVN-72 will likely enter the #SuezCanal within the next five days.

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    Basically they treat the sailors like mushrooms...

    CNO: Navy's Response to Iran Proves New Unpredictable Deployment Model Works






    The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) transits the Strait of Gibraltar, entering the Mediterranean Sea as it continues operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of responsibility. (U.S. Navy/Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Clint Davis)
    6 May 2019
    Military.com | By Gina Harkins
    The Navy's quick response to "troubling and escalatory" warnings from Iran shows a new deployment model meant to keep adversaries guessing is working, the service's top admiral said Monday.
    The Abraham Lincoln Strike Group was conducting training exercises in Europe during a planned deployment when it was ordered to pivot toward the Middle East, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson said at the annual Sea-Air-Space conference outside Washington.

    "I find it very encouraging that while the Abraham Lincoln Strike Group was out exercising in the European theater ... and national leadership requires, requests or orders that force package to go to a different theater, it's just a matter of … very fluidly and dynamically getting all of that power to move to that theater," he said.

    The model, called dynamic force employment, was introduced in last year's National Defense Strategy. It calls for less predictable maneuvering and posturing "to shape proactively the strategic environment," the strategy states.
    Moving the strike group out of the Mediterranean Sea and toward the Middle East came in response to "a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings" from Iran, John Bolton, the White House national security adviser, said in a statement. An official told The Associated Press on Sunday that U.S. troops at sea and on land were believed to be the potential targets.

    "The United States is deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the U.S. Central Command region to send a clear and unmistakable message to the Iranian regime that any attack on United States interests or on those of our allies will be met with unrelenting force," Bolton wrote.

    The sea services in particular are well-suited for quick response, Richardson said. Strike groups, amphibious ready groups and Coast Guard cutters are "maneuver forces by design."
    "They're designed to move around the globe very fluidly in response to changing security situations," he said.

    This isn't the first time the Navy has used the dynamic force employment model. Last year, the Harry S. Truman Strike Group returned to its homeport in Virginia about five weeks after it deployed -- a big change from traditional seven-month deployments. It later deployed again after about three months at home.

    -- Gina Harkins can be reached at gina.harkins@military.com. Follow her on Twitter @ginaaharkins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by northern watch View Post
    Steve Herman‏Verified account @W7VOA · 38m38 minutes ago

    After assuring #Iraq government the US stands ready to protect its sovereignty against #Iran, @SecPompeo departs Baghdad.
    Sounds like he was reaching for a positive statement following a fruitless meeting or a distracting statement following a secret meeting. Betting on the first. Iraq and Iran are almost best (Shia) buds at this point in time.

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  32. #152
    Looked like a regular soft briefcase, not the Kenneth Cole one. And it looked like he himself was carrying it.
    No officer in the background with one chained to his wrist, thankfully.

    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Can someone speak to the size of the briefcase Pompeo was carrying in Baghdad???


    Or whether he was even CARRYING ONE???

    It matters.

  33. #153
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    #BREAKING: Pompeo says he visited Iraq due to Iran's 'escalating activity'
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  34. #154
    Nick Short‏Verified account @PoliticalShort · 4h4 hours ago

    "Iran drew up plans to target US forces in Iraq & possibly Syria, to orchestrate attacks in Bab el-Mandeb strait near Yemen through proxies & in the Persian Gulf w/its own armed drones...USS Abraham Lincoln should be inside the Gulf within the next 48hrs."

  35. #155
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    Aurora Intel Retweeted Alon Ben-David

    Suspicion that #Iran is planning an attack on #Saudi oil facilities. In #Israel you see a growing likelihood of a confrontation between the #US and Iran

  36. #156
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    #UPDATE: #USAF B52s set to arrive in the middle east today amid tensions with #Iran. -Gage

  37. #157
    Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel · 1h1 hour ago

    #Iran has threatened to resume production of more-highly-enriched uranium in 60 days if other signatories did not act to protect Iran from US sanctions.

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    So...anybody seen any difference in gas prices today? I really needed gas this morning as I was in "Big" city for 7:00am breakfast with the ladies from work..so I filled up at 2.69. Later this afternoon, went into "Rez-town" for feed, (which is usually 10-20 cents/gal cheaper), and the posted price was 2.79.
    Just wondering if there's been a slow ramp-up.

  39. #159
    zerohedge‏ @zerohedge · 2h2 hours ago

    On The Brink Of An Apocalyptic War With Iran, And Most Americans Don't Seem To Care

  40. #160
    zerohedgeț @zerohedge · 3h3 hours ago

    Trump Bans Trade In Iranian Metals, Seeking To Crush Economy

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