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    19 Rep. Ilhan Omar verbally attacks Trump envoy Elliott Abrams at Venezuela hearing

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...abrams-n971311
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    'It was an attack': Rep. Ilhan Omar, Trump envoy Elliott Abrams clash at Venezuela hearing
    The freshman congresswoman questioned Abrams' truthfulness, involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal and position on the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador.

    Feb. 13, 2019, 5:43 PM EST
    By Dartunorro Clark and Alexandra Bacallao

    Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar clashed Wednesday with Elliott Abrams, President Donald Trump's new special envoy to Venezuela, at a heated House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing about the crisis in the South American country.

    The freshman congresswoman from Minnesota and Abrams had the testy exchange after she questioned his truthfulness, his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal under President Ronald Reagan, and his position on the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador in 1981.

    "Mr. Adams (sic)," Omar said, calling Abrams by an incorrect name, "in 1991, you pleaded guilty to two counts of withholding information from Congress regarding your involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, for which you were later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush. I fail to understand why members of this committee or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful."

    When Abrams tried to respond, Omar interrupted him, saying "it wasn't a question," to which the diplomat countered, "It was an attack. It is not right members of this committee can attack a witness who is not permitted to reply."

    But Omar kept going, bringing up the 1982 hearing in which Abrams, then Reagan's assistant secretary of state for human rights, testified about the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador during that country's civil war. Tensions grew.

    "In that hearing, you dismissed as communist propaganda (a) report about the massacre of El Mozote of which more than 800 civilians, including children as young as 2 years old, were brutally murdered by U.S.-trained troops," she said.

    "You later said that the U.S. policy in El Salvador was a 'fabulous achievement.'" Omar added. "Yes or no, do you still think so?"

    Abrams responded by crediting the Reagan administration for that country's movement toward democracy, calling it a "fabulous achievement."

    "Yes or no, do you think that massacre was a fabulous achievement that happened under our watch?" Omar asked.

    "That is a ridiculous question," Abrams replied. "And — "

    "Yes or no?" Omar pressed. "I will take that as a yes."

    "No — I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, I am not going to respond to that kind of personal attack, which is not a question," Abrams said.

    "Yes or no, would you support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide if you believe they were serving U.S. interests as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?" Omar asked.

    "I’m not going to respond to that question," Abrams again answered. "I’m sorry, I don’t think this entire line of questioning is meant to be real questions, so I will not reply."

    Omar then asked, "Does the interests of the United States include protecting human rights and include protecting people against genocide?"

    "That is always the position of the United States," Abrams said.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    VIDEO OF EXCHANGE:


    Word for Word: Excange between Rep. Ilhan Omar and Elliott Abrams (C-SPAN)
    4min 30sec
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InGCmxCjaWE
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    This was a disrespectful and hostile attack on Mr. Abrams. And I assume this is the future of Congress now.

    How come no one has been allowed to question Ms. Omar this exact same way about her alleged marriage to her BROTHER to evade immigration laws or her alleged support for ISIS convicts? hhmmm?


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    At some point, one of these Congress Critters indulging themselves in this kind of baiting is going to be "really surprised" by the outcome.....

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    This bitch needs to be officially censured by congress for conduct unbecoming a congresscritter. I admire how Mr Abrams stood up for himself and basically told the malignant twunt to go pound sand. MORE people being ambushed by these shitebags need to have the same reaction to them.
    Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria. As true NOW as it was true THEN!!

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    Abrams isn't an "Action Guy" (or, errrrrr-anymore). She is going to pick someone who was one considerably more recently and THEN the fat will BE in the FIRE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Abrams isn't an "Action Guy" (or, errrrrr-anymore). She is going to pick someone who was one considerably more recently and THEN the fat will BE in the FIRE.
    That or someone with the fast on his feet whit of Winston Churchill so their stupidity will be immortalized on CSPAN.

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    I had to walk away from the TV. That stupid smirking muzzie face

    We are not going to talk our way or legislate our way out of this.
    We need to stop pretending that this whole situation is salvageable and just blow the whole damn thing up.
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    It's difficult only for others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    I had to walk away from the TV. That stupid smirking muzzie face

    We are not going to talk our way or legislate our way out of this.
    We need to stop pretending that this whole situation is salvageable and just blow the whole damn thing up.
    DAMNATION terry! I can actually agree with EVERY THING you said in that post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    I had to walk away from the TV. That stupid smirking muzzie face

    We are not going to talk our way or legislate our way out of this.
    We need to stop pretending that this whole situation is salvageable and just blow the whole damn thing up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raggedyman View Post
    DAMNATION terry! I can actually agree with EVERY THING you said in that post!
    Yeah, slowly joining the TINVOWOOT* camp.



    THERE IS NO VOTING OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.




    OR HOW DID Aesop's MEME GO??

    SOCIALISM, YOU CAN VOTE YOUR WAY in.

    BUT YOU HAVE TO shoot YOUR WAY out!
    Last edited by night driver; 02-13-2019 at 11:03 PM. Reason: CAP SLOCKMAN strikes again
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    Yup. The muzzification of government.

    Need to boot their f*cking asses out. LIke now.

    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    Yup. The muzzification of government.

    Need to boot their f*cking asses out. LIke now.

    Agree! ...and, I can't stand to look at her smirking face either. Those POS muzzie wimmin are ALWAYS smirking.
    Eff 'em all to Hell.
    I've HAD it with the crap in our government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...abrams-n971311
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    'It was an attack': Rep. Ilhan Omar, Trump envoy Elliott Abrams clash at Venezuela hearing
    The freshman congresswoman questioned Abrams' truthfulness, involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal and position on the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador.

    Feb. 13, 2019, 5:43 PM EST
    By Dartunorro Clark and Alexandra Bacallao

    Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar clashed Wednesday with Elliott Abrams, President Donald Trump's new special envoy to Venezuela, at a heated House Foreign Affairs subcommittee hearing about the crisis in the South American country.

    The freshman congresswoman from Minnesota and Abrams had the testy exchange after she questioned his truthfulness, his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal under President Ronald Reagan, and his position on the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador in 1981.

    "Mr. Adams (sic)," Omar said, calling Abrams by an incorrect name, "in 1991, you pleaded guilty to two counts of withholding information from Congress regarding your involvement in the Iran-Contra affair, for which you were later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush. I fail to understand why members of this committee or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful."

    When Abrams tried to respond, Omar interrupted him, saying "it wasn't a question," to which the diplomat countered, "It was an attack. It is not right members of this committee can attack a witness who is not permitted to reply."

    But Omar kept going, bringing up the 1982 hearing in which Abrams, then Reagan's assistant secretary of state for human rights, testified about the El Mozote massacre in El Salvador during that country's civil war. Tensions grew.

    "In that hearing, you dismissed as communist propaganda (a) report about the massacre of El Mozote of which more than 800 civilians, including children as young as 2 years old, were brutally murdered by U.S.-trained troops," she said.

    "You later said that the U.S. policy in El Salvador was a 'fabulous achievement.'" Omar added. "Yes or no, do you still think so?"

    Abrams responded by crediting the Reagan administration for that country's movement toward democracy, calling it a "fabulous achievement."

    "Yes or no, do you think that massacre was a fabulous achievement that happened under our watch?" Omar asked.

    "That is a ridiculous question," Abrams replied. "And — "

    "Yes or no?" Omar pressed. "I will take that as a yes."

    "No — I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman, I am not going to respond to that kind of personal attack, which is not a question," Abrams said.

    "Yes or no, would you support an armed faction within Venezuela that engages in war crimes, crimes against humanity, or genocide if you believe they were serving U.S. interests as you did in Guatemala, El Salvador and Nicaragua?" Omar asked.

    "I’m not going to respond to that question," Abrams again answered. "I’m sorry, I don’t think this entire line of questioning is meant to be real questions, so I will not reply."

    Omar then asked, "Does the interests of the United States include protecting human rights and include protecting people against genocide?"

    "That is always the position of the United States," Abrams said.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    VIDEO OF EXCHANGE:


    Word for Word: Excange between Rep. Ilhan Omar and Elliott Abrams (C-SPAN)
    4min 30sec
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InGCmxCjaWE

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    Quote Originally Posted by subnet View Post
    I'm so tired of the right being ignorant to the fact the Democrats are waging war on America. I mean, holy crap how many times are they going to allow themselves to get blindsided , by the commie anti American sht bags , before they figure it out.

    Well, they sit in their weasely little offices in DC thinking they know everything.

    To this day they still don't have one clue about muzzies. Bams even put the muzzie brohood everywhere in government and got away with it.

    This is how many years after 9/11?

    WE KNOW. THEY DON'T.


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    DEMOGRAPHICS people.

    Why do you think that POS like this bitch,
    are in the positions in government, like they are now?

    Both her race, and her religion, are now up on protected
    class pedestals, and issues like this, are only going to
    rapidly increase, as they replace the White race.

    All you can do is arm up, and be prepared to answer
    the call to muster, when that time arrives,
    which is a lot sooner, than many would believe.

    As a very pessimistic, conspiracy theorist/doomer/prepper,
    I always look for the absolute worse in everything.

    If something bad can happen it will,
    and something bad will happen, before something good.

    Please be safe everyone, and please arm up.

    AVOID THE GROID/GHOUL
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    I pray for the White race in South Africa,
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    if you pray.

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    But she is completely right about Abrams. He does not deserve any respect and she pointed that out. The sad thing is that it took a new face to point out the obvious. President Trump needs to quit appointing these neocons to positions like this.
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    By the way I would not trust a word he said. I think he would rather climb a tree and tell a lie then stand on the ground and tell the truth.
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    Disrespect! Tell them all to kiss his ass and leave. You are only falling into there game by sitting there.

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    Wasn't it Amy Schumer's daddy who said (in public) "we can disagree without being disagreeable"??
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    "Yes or no, do you think that massacre was a fabulous achievement that happened under our watch?" Omar asked.

    "That is a ridiculous question," Abrams replied. "And — "

    "Yes or no?" Omar pressed. "I will take that as a yes.
    "
    This right here is deception of the facts. The article failed to report his CLEAR response after the "ridiculous question" with a "NO!" followed by her immediate response of, "I will take that as a yes."

    How is it that wasn't caught? How was it that she can get away with not only a blatant, disregard of what he said and inserted her own "take" on his direct response?

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    While Abrams was the face the real target of the 'rising star's' attack was the United States of America. She is a communist insurgent.
    Matthew 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaken1 View Post
    While Abrams was the face the real target of the 'rising star's' attack was the United States of America. She is a communist insurgent.
    I take great joy knowing Karma is real, and this sand ni**er probably has already achieved the special prize granted to their ilk of a cliterectomy..preferably done with a rusty razor blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    Yup. The muzzification of government.

    Need to boot their f*cking asses out. LIke now.

    YEP !!!

    But first, we need to QUIT IMPORTING THEM !!!!!! That is how they get elected / appointed to government !!!

    And it is not just the muzzies, we are going to be up to our eyeballs with people that have no loyalty to the US, and who refuse to assimilate.

    We are setting around on our hands while the house is being set on fire !!!

    We are NOT playing 15D Chess !!! We are playing national suicide !!!

    Stop ALL immigration NOW !!! Time to quit dancing with the CommieCrats !!!

    Put a minefield on the southern border, close all entry points !!! Deport ALL illegals, NOW !!!

    Our children's future is at stake !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDandy View Post
    YEP !!!

    But first, we need to QUIT IMPORTING THEM !!!!!! That is how they get elected / appointed to government !!!

    And it is not just the muzzies, we are going to be up to our eyeballs with people that have no loyalty to the US, and who refuse to assimilate.

    We are setting around on our hands while the house is being set on fire !!!

    We are NOT playing 15D Chess !!! We are playing national suicide !!!

    Stop ALL immigration NOW !!! Time to quit dancing with the CommieCrats !!!

    Put a minefield on the southern border, close all entry points !!! Deport ALL illegals, NOW !!!

    Our children's future is at stake !!!!!


    ^^^THAT^^^
    is the correct attitude - and I pray that America and AMERICANS begin to turn toward that en mass - in numbers so large that some ACTION be taken. getting to the point here that if something MEANINGFUL is not done - and done SOON - it's going to require a SCORCHED EARTH approach to correct what's killing this country

    we
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggedyman View Post
    ^^^THAT^^^
    is the correct attitude - and I pray that America and AMERICANS begin to turn toward that en mass - in numbers so large that some ACTION be taken. getting to the point here that if something MEANINGFUL is not done - and done SOON - it's going to require a SCORCHED EARTH approach to correct what's killing this country

    we
    I fear we are witnessing the disintegration of our country !!!

    And as has been said before, we are not going to vote our way into repairing the country !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoDandy View Post
    I fear we are witnessing the disintegration of our country !!!

    And as has been said before, we are not going to vote our way into repairing the country !!

    something that I've said here previously many times but bears repeating - over and over again until it becomes a reality:


    please GOD - that I may live to see the day that these scum - MSM in particular - are strung up around the country and left to ROT in the sun. may the ravens and crows feast for MONTHS and may their bleached bones remain hanging on lamp posts, bridges and convenient trees for YEARS may people walk past and spit on their remains and when they finally fall to the ground may they become convenient places for the pubic to relieve themselves
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    I had to walk away from the TV. That stupid smirking muzzie face

    We are not going to talk our way or legislate our way out of this.
    We need to stop pretending that this whole situation is salvageable and just blow the whole damn thing up.
    HEY!

    What did you do with TerryK?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Yeah, slowly joining the TINVOWOOT* camp.



    THERE IS NO VOTING OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.




    OR HOW DID Aesop's MEME GO??

    SOCIALISM, YOU CAN VOTE YOUR WAY in.

    BUT YOU HAVE TO shoot YOUR WAY out!
    Voting in Islamists to our government?

    I think this quote by Aesop is more appropriate:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    HEY!

    What did you do with TerryK?!?!
    have no fear he's just SLIPPED a bit . . . . . . I'm sure he'll correct his course shortly . . .
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaken1 View Post
    While Abrams was the face the real target of the 'rising star's' attack was the United States of America. She is a communist insurgent.
    She is an Islamist insurgent...

    Don't mistake the two even though they may be current allies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    This was a disrespectful and hostile attack on Mr. Abrams. And I assume this is the future of Congress now.

    How come no one has been allowed to question Ms. Omar this exact same way about her alleged marriage to her BROTHER to evade immigration laws or her alleged support for ISIS convicts? hhmmm?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggedyman View Post
    something that I've said here previously many times but bears repeating - over and over again until it becomes a reality:


    please GOD - that I may live to see the day that these scum - MSM in particular - are strung up around the country and left to ROT in the sun. may the ravens and crows feast for MONTHS and may their bleached bones remain hanging on lamp posts, bridges and convenient trees for YEARS may people walk past and spit on their remains and when they finally fall to the ground may they become convenient places for the pubic to relieve themselves
    That certainly won't do much for the air quality.
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    Believe it or not......

    https://alphanewsmn.com/new-evidence...d-her-brother/

    Newly uncovered evidence strongly supports claims that state Rep. Ilhan Omar may have married her brother.

    Since 2016, Alpha News has been following a trail of evidence that suggests Omar may have married her brother Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in order to aid Elmi in obtaining U.S. citizenship. The two were married in 2009 and later divorced in 2017. While being legally married to Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, Omar has publicly identified Ahmed Hirsi as her cultural husband and father of her children.

    Omar has refused to answer questions regarding her marriage history, calling the claims that she married her brother “disgusting lies.” However, new evidence uncovered by David Steinberg of PJ Media further supports the belief that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi was indeed Omar’s brother.

    According to official school records from St. Paul Public Schools obtained by Steinberg, an “Ahmed N. Elmi” was enrolled as a senior at Arlington Senior High School in St. Paul, Minnesota from September 2002 to June 2003. Ahmed N. Elmi graduated in June 2003 with a diploma.

    Steinberg reports that the enrollment record lists Ahmed N. Elmi’s date of birth as April 4, 1985–the same date of birth listed on Omar’s marriage documents and divorce proceedings for Ahmed Nur Said Elmi.

    “After an extensive background search, I have not been able to find any other person named ‘Ahmed Nur Said Elmi,’ ‘Ahmed N. Elmi,’ or even ‘Ahmed Elmi’ with the birthdate April 4, 1985. The man Ilhan Omar married and the 17- to 18-year-old who attended Arlington Senior High School in St. Paul, MN, in 2002-2003 are one and the same,” Steinberg writes.


    Federal and state law prevents St. Paul Public Schools from releasing further details about Ahmed N. Elmi, including parents/legal guardians or address. However, Steinberg contacted several members of the Class of 2003 who identified Elmi’s father as Nur Said Elmi Mohamed–the same man Omar identifies as her father.

    Steinberg says the information implicates Omar in “multiple state and federal felonies.”

    Omar did not respond to Steinberg’s request for comment, however, she recently tweeted that the “Republican/right-wing organized propaganda machines are strong and a big threat to our democracy.” The tweet echos Omar’s comments in a recent interview with the Associated Press where refused to answer any further questions on her marriage history, saying she chooses “not to further the narrative of those who oppose us.”
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    I wasn't on the cutting edge for Iran/Contra, but I was on the bevel of the blade.

    YES, we did stuff that was illegal at the time. And YES, it pissed off the libtards greatly that we did those things back then.

    And YES, IT STILL DOES.

    I learned A LOT about 'government' from that.

    Your musical interlude for this discussion - a great favorite of my 7th Group guys - the first cut is what I was looking for.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xOoL31VI0k
    Warren Zevon - The Envoy (1982)
    RT 32:05 (full album)
    The wonder of our time isn’t how angry we are at politics and politicians; it’s how little we’ve done about it. - Fran Porretto
    -http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-wholly-rational-hatred.html

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    An old friend did enough time as a freight kicker to be on about pg 2 of Gene Hassenfuss's "lil black book",,,,

    Fun guy to know....
    RULE 1:
    THEY want you DEAD.

    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my brothers' children (and their parents) may have peace, and have NO KNOWLEDGE of what I have done."

    TACAMO!! NOW!!

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    She's a muslim, shouldn't she be at home doing dishes and sacrificing a goat?
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurane View Post
    snip

    Omar did not respond to Steinberg’s request for comment, however, she recently tweeted that the “Republican/right-wing organized propaganda machines are strong and a big threat to our democracy.” The tweet echos Omar’s comments in a recent interview with the Associated Press where refused to answer any further questions on her marriage history, saying she chooses “not to further the narrative of those who oppose us.”
    It seems "the vast right-wing conspiracy" has abandoned the clintons in favor of 'rising stars'.

    Sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory to me. May the truth burst forth to see the light of day despite the fake news' best efforts to hide it.
    Matthew 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    She is an Islamist insurgent...

    Don't mistake the two even though they may be current allies.
    I stand corrected.
    Matthew 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garryowen View Post
    That certainly won't do much for the air quality.
    no doubt GO - but think of the mental clarity it will compel - one would be able to proceed through the day without some asshat looking to jerk a knot in it for fun and pleasure . . . true satisfaction of the "we just want to be left alone" mantra
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

    Raging Deplorable - we do NOT forget; we do NOT forgive; we are LEGION

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