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    Cops tase man 11 times, pull his pants down and tase him in testicles.

    Video and additional pictures at link.
    Sadly, because of cops like this, an honest cop somewhere else will probably end up being shot in the back of the head.
    If cops don't start policing their own, they are going to end up starting a war they can't and won't win. It only takes 1% being bad to tar the other 99%, and there are a lot more bad cops than 1%.



    https://www.abc15.com/news/local-new...ndale-officers

    Abuse of Force: Body camera video shows man tased 11 times by Glendale officers


    Posted: 5:20 PM, Feb 08, 2019
    Updated: 8:36 AM, Feb 10, 2019

    By: Dave Biscobing




    On July 27, 2017, Johnny Wheatcroft was a passenger in a silver Ford Taurus when a pair of Glendale police officers pulled in front them in a Motel 6 parking lot. The stop was for an alleged turn signal violation. Minutes later, Wheatcroft was handcuffed lying face down on the hot asphalt on a 108-degree day. He'd already been tased 10 times, with one officer kneeling on his back as another, Officer Matt Schneider, kicked him in the groin and pulled down his athletic shorts to tase him a final time in his testicles, according to a federal lawsuit and body camera footage obtained by ABC15.













    On July 27, 2017, Johnny Wheatcroft was a passenger in a silver Ford Taurus when a pair of Glendale police officers pulled in front them in a Motel 6 parking lot.
    The stop was for an alleged turn signal violation.
    Minutes later, Wheatcroft was handcuffed lying face down on the hot asphalt on a 108-degree day. He'd already been tased 10 times, with one officer kneeling on his back as another, Officer Matt Schneider, kicked him in the groin and pulled down his athletic shorts to tase him a final time in his testicles, according to a federal lawsuit and body camera footage obtained by ABC15.
    The scene was witnessed by his 11- and 6-year-old sons.
    “I have never seen anything like this before... This is just beyond the pale. It’s outrageous conduct.” Multiple independent law enforcement experts, who agreed to review the incident, said the officers’ conduct was unlawful, potentially criminal, and one of the most cruel and troubling cases of police misconduct they’ve ever seen.
    “I have never seen anything like this before,” said Jeff Noble, an attorney and former deputy chief of police in Irvine, Calif., who’s testified in hundreds of cases including Tamir Rice and Philando Castile. “ It reminds me of a case in New York where an individual was sadistically taking a broom handle and shoving it up (the suspect’s) anus. This is just beyond the pale. It’s outrageous conduct.”
    Former LAPD detective supervisor T.T. Williams echoed his shock.
    “That’s not even borderline,” said Williams, an expert witness who testified in the Philip Brailsford case on behalf of the prosecution. “That’s inhumane.”
    Watch the raw body camera video in the player below. WARNING: The video contains uncensored language and violence. Schneider was suspended for 30 hours and remains an active officer on the force, records show.
    RELATED: Internal review leads to suspension of Glendale officer who tased suspect 11 times
    The experts said it was appalling that Officer Schneider, who has won multiple awards from the police chief and has represented Glendale twice on the TV show Cops, was not terminated. They also believe Glendale should have referred the case for outside criminal investigation and prosecution.
    Officer Matt Schneider “If he intentionally struck a passenger in the testicles, and then intentionally tased him in or near the genitals, I’m surprised he hasn’t been prosecuted,” said Seth Stoughton, a former police officer who’s now an attorney and professor at the University of South Carolina School of Law. “It raises half a dozen red flags that suggest the need for a thorough review, including a review to determine if the officer committed any crimes.”
    On February 8, the Glendale Police Department released the following statement: In addition to the statement, Glendale PD released 30 seconds of surveillance video showing the incident: The release is full of omissions and information that does not match up with the departments own records.
    Read more on our analysis of their statement here.
    But the lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court of Arizona by attorneys Marc Victor and Jody Broaddus, alleges that the officers violated the constitutional rights of Wheatcroft and his wife, Anya Chapman, and engaged in the “excessive use of force and torture.”
    "No one is necessarily above the law, whether it be a priest, a police officer or any civilian on the street. No one is above the law either civilly or criminally," said Broaddus.

    When I saw this video, and this has never happened to me in my legal career, I couldn't work anymore that day. I was so disturbed," Victor said.

    Wheatcroft and Chapman, who were arrested and charged with aggravated assault on a police officer, spent months in jail after the incident because they couldn’t afford bail.
    Chapman agreed to plead guilty to a lesser charge in order to get home to her children, her attorneys said.
    The charges against Wheatcroft were dismissed by the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office after prosecutors saw the body camera video.
    Wheatcroft, who’s currently in prison on an unrelated burglary charge stemming from a copper wire theft, was not available for comment.
    For independent analysis, ABC15 spoke with three former law enforcement officers, who testify as expert witnesses in police use-of-force cases across the country: Williams, Noble, and Stoughton.
    ABC15 traveled to southern California to interview Williams and Noble in person. Stoughton was interviewed over the phone.
    Second-by-second breakdown:

    TIME: 0:00 - 0:55

    Officers Matt Schneider and Mark Lindsey approach the car for an alleged turn signal violation. Schneider, who claimed to see the violation, walks over to the passenger side where Johnny Wheatcroft is sitting. Officer Lindsey walks to the driver’s side. A friend of Wheatcroft's, Shawn Blackburn, is the driver. In the backseat, Wheatcroft’s wife, Anya Chapman, and two children are sitting.
    WILLIAMS: I have concerns about the initial justification for the stop.
    NOBLE: The controlling officer is not going to the driver’s side and investigating the turn signal. He’s focused on the passenger, which tells me that maybe this is not why we’re here. They’re not really interested in his turn signal violation.

    TIME: 0:55 - 2:05

    Schneider asks Wheatcroft multiple times for identification. He responds by asking why that’s necessary since he wasn’t driving the car. The officer tells him, “If you’re a passenger in a vehicle, you need to have ID.” And if Wheatcroft doesn’t provide it, Schneider says, “I can take you down to the station and we can fingerprint you.”
    NOBLE: So the passenger, he’s asking very reasonable questions: ‘Why are you asking for ID?’ And the officer tells him, ‘If you’re a passenger in the vehicle, you have to give ID.’ That’s misstatement of the law. He doesn’t have to give ID...It’s not true. It’s not accurate. (Then the officer says) ‘I can take you down to the station and fingerprint you.’ Well no, you can’t. You can’t. That’s using his authority in an improper way by claiming he can arrest or detain him to fingerprint him when he’s done nothing wrong.

    TIME: 2:05 - 2:55

    Schneider then opens the car door and grabs Wheatcroft’s right arm. By grabbing his arm, it prevents the seatbelt from sliding off completely. The officer then pulls his Taser and applies it to Wheatcroft’s arm. Wheatcroft says, “Stop please. I didn’t do anything wrong." Shnieder replies, “Here’s the deal, you tense up and I’m going to, listen to me. Listen to me. Relax your arm.” Wheatcroft asks, “What did I do wrong? What did I do wrong?”
    WILLIAMS: I didn’t see any resisting. I saw questions being asked. See (the officer’s) starting out wrong. You’re starting out wrong. See what he’s doing is escalating the situation for no reason at all.
    NOBLE: Look at the passenger, there’s nothing threatening there. He hasn’t made any threats. All he’s done is ask some questions…We’re at a point, where this gentlemen, to a reasonable officer, has not done anything wrong. What has he done to allow an officer to physically touch him at this point? So to use force, you have to have a lawful detention or lawful arrest, why are we here. We are here for a turn signal violation and he’s not the driver.

    TIME: 2:55 - 3:20

    Schneider then puts his Taser away and uses his other hand to grab Wheatcroft's elbow and put him into a plain compliance hold. The seatbelt wraps around Wheatcroft’s head and legs as officers try to pull him from the vehicle.
    WILLIAMS: There’s no need to twist his arm. No need for that...He’s still strapped in the vehicle. What is he going to do? How is he going to get out…You ask him not to do this, ask him not to do that. He can’t do anything because he’s strapped into the seatbelt.
    NOBLE: He’s put him in a rear wrist lock with the seatbelt over his shoulder. If I did that to you right now, you would similarly bend forward. And if you were not flexible, it would be painful. It should be no surprise to this officer, that he is pulling some resistance back. Because he is putting him in a position of pain. This is a pain compliance move. He’s twisting his wrist, he’s putting his left hand on his elbow forcing forward where the seatbelt is restraining him.

    TIME: 3:20 - 4:10

    With Wheatcroft tangled in the seatbelt, another officer tases him multiple times in the left side by using what’s called a “drive stun.” Officer Schneider then steps back and fires his taser at Wheatcroft who’s on the ground between the car door and the vehicle, with the seatbelt wrapped around his legs. The officers then drive stun Wheatcroft several more times. He’s placed in handcuffs.
    WILLIAMS: He’s being drive stunned there and he’s still strapped into the seatbelt. All of that physical initiation by the officers should not have been. He can’t comply because you’re not allowing him to comply…What you see here is textbook wrong -- at every angle.
    NOBLE: He was just sitting there, and they’re tasing him again. (Reporter: So there’s no reason for that? It’s about pain, just to make him hurt?) Absolutely. That’s exactly what that is for. It’s about pain. This is about causing this man pain. There is no legitimate law enforcement purpose for that Taser.

    TIME: 4:10 - 4:50

    During the previous portion, officers claim Anya Chapman hit Officer Lindsey in the head with a plastic bag of items. You hear Schneider say, “Mark is hurt.” The officers then try to drag Wheatcroft away from the vehicle, but his legs are still stuck in the seatbelt. The 11-year-old boy in the car moves into the front seat to finally free Wheatcroft from the belt. Schneider commands the boy to go to the front of vehicle, causing him to burst out in tears and scream.
    NOBLE: He’s trying to let officers know, 'I’m trying to comply. I’m stuck I can’t do what you want me to do.' A child, a small child, who just released his legs, who in effect helped the officers, (Schneider) starts giving orders as if he’s a suspect. And you see the boy, who just did something good, just tried to help the officer, being confronted.
    WILLIAMS: The young kid there had more common sense than the officers...The officers should have done that themselves.

    TIME: 4:50 - 6:00

    Wheatcroft is laying face down on the asphalt, handcuffed, with an officer kneeling on his back. Officer Schneider then turns, accuses Wheatcroft of kicking, and then kicks Wheatcroft in the groin twice. Schneider then takes his left hand, pulls down Wheatcroft’s athletic shorts below his buttocks, and tases him in the testicles, according to Wheatcroft’s lawsuit. Shortly later, Schneider recharges his Taser and this time places it on Wheatcroft’s penis while he’s laying on his side, saying “You want it again? Shut your mouth. I’m done (expletive) around with you.”
    WILLIAMS: That’s not even borderline. That’s inhumane...There’s no reason to tase him period when he’s handcuffed at all. They’ve got four, five officers around there. All of that tasing should have been done; well there shouldn’t have been tasing to begin with.
    NOBLE: This is not an accident...This has the appearance of an intentional act. There’s absolutely no legitimate law enforcement purpose. This is beyond the pale. This is unconscionable.

    TIME: 6:00 - END

    A handful of officers pull Wheatcroft to his feet and pull Taser probes from his skin. He yells in pain, Schneider tells him, “Shut up…You shouldn’t have been stupid then… Quit acting like a big baby.” Wheatcroft was tased 11 times, according to his attorneys. He was placed in a police vehicle and booked into jail for two counts of aggravated assault. He did not receive medical treatment. Experts said he should have.
    NOBLE: This was bad from the beginning, and it only got worse.
    WILLIAMS: They started wrong and they ended wrong. There is no justification for what they did.
    “I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself.”
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    This is nut funny!!!

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    I heard on the news that after all of that they released him with no charges. That man will be rich after the lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garand View Post
    This is nut funny!!!
    No it's not funny. It is enraging and people are starting to want payback against those who abuse their authority. That's why you are starting to see cops being executed and many people feeling no sympathy at all for them, even though many times it's the good cops paying the price for the bad cops.

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    "There is no justification for what they did."

    No but there is a +++++++ solution, hefty prison time for those thug cops and a hefty dollar lawsuit for that poor man.

    Remember a time in America when policemen were your friends. They, for the most part, didn't kill you, taze you, or seize your money and property. They never came in the middle of the night like an army of judge, jury and executioners.
    That America is gone forever isn't it?

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    There are too many criminals in uniform patrolling our streets.

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    I chose not to watch the video. The transcript clearly shows the Constitutional violations. No one riding in a car needs ID.
    He should have asked "Am I free to go?". Walk if necessary. Better to leave your wife and kids walking than make them watch that horrid spectacle.


    The bigger indictment is against Glendale.

    If my own badge-wearing sibling did something like this I'd hope they got stuck in the general population until their sphincter prolapsed.

    Horrible on another level is the fact the guy is in jail for something else now. One more example of the cops making a rich man out of a scum-bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit View Post
    "There is no justification for what they did."

    No but there is a +++++++ solution, hefty prison time for those thug cops and a hefty dollar lawsuit for that poor man.

    Remember a time in America when policemen were your friends. They, for the most part, didn't kill you, taze you, or seize your money and property. They never came in the middle of the night like an army of judge, jury and executioners.
    That America is gone forever isn't it?
    Sure seems like it. This was a heinous crime and I hope the police involved get criminal charges. In a perfect world they would.... these days in the good old USA though - can't be sure. I hope they do though!

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    Police in my county did similiar to a teen in custody; he was released, then died at home the next day.

    Tasers are not toys, and police that use them as torture devices need to have Big Bubba wearing stripes as their next roomie bunk buddy.
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    In the last 10 years I have gone from being basically pro cop to not trusting them.

    And now I doubt that I would help one in trouble - just not sure.

    But I would not lift a finger if those cops were - caned - tased - and hung.

    And the same done to anybody in their organization who defends them.

    Assuming of course that the OP is accurate - which I don't doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc1 View Post
    There are too many criminals in uniform patrolling our streets.

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    I have to agree Doc. I am all for law enforcement, without them, we would live in a jungle. However, guys like this are the predators running loose.
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    The first thing that popped out at me (no pun intended), was one of the officers looks just like Bill Clinton!

    People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk. Ayn Rand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panner View Post
    I heard on the news that after all of that they released him with no charges. That man will be rich after the lawsuits.
    He'll have plenty of money for more tats and meth. Would you get tazed in the balls for more of that - he would! I'd sue the department into bankruptcy. It's gotten me to where I don't trust any cop. Just because they wear a badge and a gun doesn't mean they are out to protect you. Helll, their wife or husband could have set them off before they went to work and they take it out on you.
    People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk. Ayn Rand

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    I'm torn as to which response is best. Half of me wants Schneider's wages permanently garnished to pay Wheatcroft. The other just wants Schneider tossed in jail in full uniform.

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    Brings meaning to the song "great balls of fire".
    "Man is not to be blamed for sinning. After all, he faces great temptations and is extremely vulnerable. What he is blamed for is not doing Teshuvah (repenting) because he can do that at any time." Rav Simcha Bunim of P'shischa

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic38572 View Post
    Brings meaning to the song "great balls of fire".
    To be honest, I don't think this incident warrants any type of funny comment. Many cops are totally out of control.
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    The cops involved will at the most be fired and then get a job in the next town as a cop. That is always the way it works. The city will pay out a sum of money and that city's insurance rates will increase. The taxpayers lose and the all the local residents lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jba48 View Post
    To be honest, I don't think this incident warrants any type of funny comment. Many cops are totally out of control.
    Oh come on, the OP's remark was funny. I can even find humor in a bad situation. How many here wouldn't mind getting tazed if they knew there was a pot of gold in the end? Line forms here.....(it only hurts for a little while).
    People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk. Ayn Rand

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    If they hit his testicles directly there is a very good chance they fried them and he's now sterile, possibly even killing the nerves that allows for an erection, if that's the case they'll be out millions, tens of millions of dollars.
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    There are fellows I know who would feel it required a repayment for such a "kindness"

    I expect to see a lot of abandoned cars and funny costumes with attached badges when things fall apart.

    When the majority of the population does not at least passively support the po po one can know that they will face some retribution at some point.

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    Things got pretty chaotic in the video.

    Here's the official response, found in the link; I bolded some of it.

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Date: February 8, 2019

    Volatile Glendale Policing Situation Detailed

    GLENDALE, Ariz. – On July 26, 2017, Glendale Police Officers were in the area 5900
    W. Myrtle Avenue conducting intensive patrol due to increased crime reported in the
    area. At approximately 7:30 PM, Officers Matt Schneider and Mark Lindsey contacted
    the occupants of a Ford Taurus after Officer Schneider observed a traffic violation. The
    contact occurred in a parking lot that was included in a blanket trespass agreement with
    the City and parking lot owner. The officers both approached the Ford Taurus and found
    that it was occupied by three adults and two children. Upon contact, officers discovered
    that the driver did not have a driver’s license and began to address an observed seat belt
    violation. The occupants of the vehicle were identified as Shawn Blackburn (34), the
    driver of the vehicle; Johnny Wheatcroft (37), the front seat passenger; and Anya
    Chapman (34), the driver’s side rear passenger with two children beside her, ages eleven
    (11) and six (6).

    During the officers’ contact at the vehicle, they each noted Johnny Wheatcroft
    reaching down below the seat into a backpack. Mr. Wheatcroft also immediately upon
    contact exhibited verbal non-compliance by refusing to identify himself and failed to
    obey the officer’s instructions to stop reaching his hands beneath the seat into the
    backpack and about the vehicle in the area between the seat and console.
    For the safety
    of themselves and those around them, including the minor children, the officers attempted
    to remove Mr. Wheatcroft from the vehicle so they could maintain a safe eye on him for
    the duration of the traffic stop as well as conduct a pat down for weapons.

    Mr. Wheatcroft immediately began to physically resist the officers’ attempts to escort him
    from the vehicle while continuing to place his hands where officers could not see them.
    Officers displayed their Tasers and warned him of potential Taser use to gain his
    compliance; however, Mr. Wheatcroft continued to argue, yell and physically resist the
    officers’ control holds. Due to the physical resistance from Mr. Wheatcroft, the Taser
    was used in a drive stun capacity in order to gain control and avoid physical injury.

    While officers attempted to detain Mr. Wheatcroft, Anya Chapman swung a bag
    filled with bottled drinks, striking Officer Lindsey in the head, rendering him
    unconscious. Seeing his partner unconscious, coupled with Mr. Wheatcroft’s continued
    resistance and the unknown threat from within the vehicle, Officer Schneider deployed
    his Taser, striking Mr. Wheatcroft.

    Dealing with two adults that were being physically aggressive and had already assaulted one officer, Officer Schneider asked for additional officers to respond. As multiple officers arrived on scene, they tended to the injured officer and helped detain Mr. Wheatcroft as he was continuing to resist officers by kicking and screaming. Mr. Wheatcroft was eventually able to be calmed down, and he and Anya Chapman were taken into custody without further incident. As officers continued their investigation, a usable quantity of methamphetamine was found within the vehicle.

    Mr. Wheatcroft and Ms. Chapman were charged with Aggravated Assault
    due to their actions, in which Ms. Chapman subsequently plead guilty. Fire personnel
    responded to the scene to evaluate Mr. Wheatcroft and the injured officer. Mr.
    Wheatcroft refused medical attention. The officer that was struck was transported to a
    local valley hospital for medical treatment and returned to full duty several days later.

    The Glendale Police Department is dedicated to remaining transparent with the
    community that we serve, and public safety is the top priority. The Department
    recognizes that society expects accountability and we hold ourselves to the highest
    standards set by Arizona Police Officer Standards and Training as well as state law. Per
    Department protocol regarding any response to resistance, a review of the officers’
    actions has been performed and discipline implemented regarding certain tactics used by
    one officer.
    #

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    That is the worst sadistic torture I've ever seen.

    The man was more than compliant and spoke in a gentle voice.
    He was in the passenger seat of a car the police stated didn't use the turn signal.
    Children and his wife were in the back seat.
    He made no movement that could be considered as a threat.

    This video has peaked my anger meter so I will not comment any further.

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    Post 22 is clearly officer safety BS speak imo.

    Notice they said he refused treatment. Stupid. It is all about the damages at that point.

    Loss of consortium should be understood.

    I've stayed in a lake-house that was partially bought with cases not nearly as bad as this one. 3rd home, BTW.
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    Cops really are sexual sadists. Here in San Diego. I caught a cop using the " carotid restraint" on a KID about 2:am. It makes people pass out. Cops sexually get off on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luddite View Post
    Post 22 is clearly officer safety BS speak imo.

    Notice they said he refused treatment. Stupid. It is all about the damages at that point.

    Loss of consortium should be understood.

    I've stayed in a lake-house that was partially bought with cases not nearly as bad as this one. 3rd home, BTW.
    The whole reason this went national is that the body cam footage did not match the propaganda Mixin posted which was probably the cover story for the police, until the video was released.

    The officer involved is somewhat of a prima-donna as he was the county's star on the cops TV series in the past.
    Sorry but you don't entangle someone in their seat belt and pull them out of a car and then claim they were resisting arrest.
    You don't threaten their children because they helped you do your job by untangling the seat belt themselves.

    Sorry, but you don't pull someone's pants down and tase them in the testicles and penis after they are handcuffed and laying on the asphalt, in front of their children and wife and get away with it in this country.

    Cops are not judge, jury and punisher. A public example needs to be made of this cop.
    Yeah the county will pay money, but the cop should suffer.
    Sad that I am forced to feel this way, but many in this country are starting to feel the same way.
    It's also said that some innocent cop will probably get shot because of the hate that this one dickhead helped to instill in the public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    The whole reason this went national is that the body cam footage did not match the propaganda Mixin posted which was probably the cover story for the police, until the video was released.

    The officer involved is somewhat of a prima-donna as he was the county's star on the cops TV series in the past.
    Sorry but you don't entangle someone in their seat belt and pull them out of a car and then claim they were resisting arrest.
    You don't threaten their children because they helped you do your job by untangling the seat belt themselves.

    Sorry, but you don't pull someone's pants down and tase them in the testicles and penis after they are handcuffed and laying on the asphalt, in front of their children and wife and get away with it in this country.

    Cops are not judge, jury and punisher. A public example needs to be made of this cop.
    Yeah the county will pay money, but the cop should suffer.
    Sad that I am forced to feel this way, but many in this country are starting to feel the same way.
    It's also said that some innocent cop will probably get shot because of the hate that this one dickhead helped to instill in the public.
    And this bothers me a lot because you have good people who would make great cops who are now saying oh hell no, I'm not going to apply to be a cop.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    I agree TerryK.

    What can be done to prevent this garbage? Make every police in the nation carry their OWN liability insurance. Compensate them for the premium but it follows them. If they lose their coverage, legislate that they can't work anywhere.

    Trust me, the insurance companies will weed out the noxious blue weeds quicker than any other way.

    Send the "local hero" to prison in this case.
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    Sorry, but you don't pull someone's pants down and tase them in the testicles and penis after they are handcuffed and laying on the asphalt, in front of their children and wife and get away with it in this country.
    We'll see. I hope you are correct but I'd say the odds are no better than 50/50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    No it's not funny. It is enraging and people are starting to want payback against those who abuse their authority. That's why you are starting to see cops being executed and many people feeling no sympathy at all for them, even though many times it's the good cops paying the price for the bad cops.

    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
    Yep, this is why people are beginning to really hate the government. It will boil over at some point and the few times we have seen police targeted will be nothing considering what will occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiwall View Post
    We'll see. I hope you are correct but I'd say the odds are no better than 50/50.
    Since it was on body cam, the officer may actually be held to some standard. A standard of a day or two off with pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Gauge View Post
    Since it was on body cam, the officer may actually be held to some standard. A standard of a day or two off with pay.
    Down in the middle of post 1 it says he was suspended for 30 hours. I'll bet he was working a side/job contract job during that time. If he just happened to be wearing his uniform, everybody in authority should be fired.

    Prosecution should still be on the table. I don't know if there are statutes of limitation on this kind of thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    The whole reason this went national is that the body cam footage did not match the propaganda Mixin posted which was probably the cover story for the police, until the video was released.

    The officer involved is somewhat of a prima-donna as he was the county's star on the cops TV series in the past.
    Sorry but you don't entangle someone in their seat belt and pull them out of a car and then claim they were resisting arrest.
    You don't threaten their children because they helped you do your job by untangling the seat belt themselves.

    Sorry, but you don't pull someone's pants down and tase them in the testicles and penis after they are handcuffed and laying on the asphalt, in front of their children and wife and get away with it in this country.

    Cops are not judge, jury and punisher. A public example needs to be made of this cop.
    Yeah the county will pay money, but the cop should suffer.
    Sad that I am forced to feel this way, but many in this country are starting to feel the same way.
    It's also said that some innocent cop will probably get shot because of the hate that this one dickhead helped to instill in the public.
    I posted the official police statement because it gives some insight as to what the entire situation was. The wife had knocked out the other cop while some of this was going down.

    As a side note, Mr. Tazed All Over should have waited for his settlement instead of ending up prison on a burglary charge. I suspect he was known to LE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jba48 View Post
    To be honest, I don't think this incident warrants any type of funny comment. Many cops are totally out of control.
    I agree.

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    And now there are two kids who are never going to trust police, ever. For a moment I thought the cop was going top tase the kid too.

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    now there are two kids who are never going to trust police, ever.

    Probably a good life lesson, given how things are going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixin View Post
    I posted the official police statement because it gives some insight as to what the entire situation was. The wife had knocked out the other cop while some of this was going down.

    As a side note, Mr. Tazed All Over should have waited for his settlement instead of ending up prison on a burglary charge. I suspect he was known to LE.

    You actually would believe the police in a high --- "cover their ass" --- situation like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panner View Post
    I heard on the news that after all of that they released him with no charges. That man will be rich after the lawsuits.
    THIS! For what it takes to get hired in CA by a department, these idiots just proved the "screening" process isn't doing what its stated purpose purports....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulter View Post
    You actually would believe the police in a high --- "cover their ass" --- situation like this?
    I believe some of it. I suspect there are medical records to back up the injury to the cop. He probably had a body cam, too.

    We can't see the guy's left hand to know for sure if he's reaching into his bag; but since they found drugs, I assume that was the reason for his actions. The cop didn't know what he was reaching for; it could have been a gun for all the cop knew.

    It's strange that the guy refused medical treatment. As much as he was screaming and hollering, one would think that he would want a medical report of the abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    Sorry, but you don't pull someone's pants down and tase them in the testicles and penis after they are handcuffed and laying on the asphalt, in front of their children and wife and get away with it in this country.
    I wouldn't bet any money on this. The city will pay dearly (I hope) but nothing will be done to the cops. They MIGHT get fired but that is the worst that happen to them. And as previously stated they will simply get hired by another agency.
    I don't want to. I'm not going to. You can't make me. I'm retired!

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