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    Air Force general apologizes for wearing upside down ribbon rack at State of the Union

    Air Force general apologizes for wearing upside down ribbon rack at State of the Union

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/201...-of-the-union/


    Four-star Air Force Gen. Joseph Lengyel took to social media to apologize for a uniform gaffe committed while attending President Donald Trump’s annual address before Congress on Tuesday night.

    “A not-so-funny thing happened on the way to the State of the Union last night,” Lengyel, who serves as chief of the National Guard Bureau, wrote Wednesday on his official Facebook page. “If you look closely, you’ll see that the ribbons on my uniform jacket are upside down.”

    The mistake, in which Lengyel wore his highest-precedence awards on the bottom row instead of the top, had already been spotted by eagle-eyed viewers after he was briefly shown during the televised address.


    “I missed it … plain and simple,” he said in his Facebook post. “I hope this is a lesson for everyone who wears the uniform, and really for anyone. They put erasers on pencils for a reason. When you make a mistake or miss a detail, own it and move on.”

    Comments on Facebook and a similar Twitter post were supportive of his admission.

    “No one understands Air Force uniforms anyhow. I think you are safe,” wrote MMA fighter Tim Kennedy, a former Army Ranger.

    Another commenter suggested Lengyel could use Maverick’s “because I was inverted” line from the 1986 blockbuster film “Top Gun” as an excuse.

    One thing is for sure … My ribbons will NEVER be upside down again,” Lengyel said on Facebook.

    Lengyel is the 28th chief of the National Guard Bureau, a post he’s held since 2016. He was commissioned in 1981 through the Reserve Officer’s Training Corps and has more than 3,000 flight hours, mostly in the F-16 fighter.
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    Air Force... Why did it have to be the Air Force?

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    In the words of Forest Gump "It happens"
    Oh and "Stupid is, as stupid does"

    Seriously, I've seen it at work during my Navy career a couple of times.
    Guys wives do their uniforms and sometimes you just don't pay attention and go to work that way.
    Now, going to a formal event of any kind is a different story.
    I've always kept a dress uniform ready to go, and a backup just in case. Same with ribbon sets, dress shoes and covers.
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    as long as it wasn't intentional - there's enough military BS protesting going on - it doesn't need a 4 **** general chipping in ....
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    He owned up to it and I'm sure he classifies it as a "teachable moment" that none of us are infallible.
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    If you can't 'read' zoomie ribbons, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_L._Lengyel . I recognized the LM, BS and MSM as those are not service specific but all the others are Greek to me.

    I ascribe a certain amount of the realization of the faux pas by the public to the proliferation of 'stolen valor' claims of late.
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    Had to be intentional. No officer would make that mistake. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSTemplar View Post
    Had to be intentional. No officer would make that mistake. Ever.
    That was my first thought........but what do I know.........
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    I had just arrived at my new MajCom assignment in 1988 and was called to the Awards Ceremony. As the general was pinning my medal, he mentioned that I was wearing my ribbons wrong.
    It was the 9th Oak Leaf Cluster and not many people see the 9th and he was wrong, but he did notice.
    So, I am also sure the gentlemen sitting with him noticed. And I am sure they busted his chops and that he bought a few rounds for it because he was wearing wings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSTemplar View Post
    Had to be intentional. No officer would make that mistake. Ever.
    He blamed it on his aide prior to saying "I take responsibility"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    He blamed it on his aide prior to saying "I take responsibility"...
    ( 3:46 ) Angry Cops at Work - General Wears his Medals Upside Down at State of the Union

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=texR4MgVnH8&t=108s
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    ok . . .
    After seeing the rack, with three ribbon on the top four rows, and four on the bottom rows

    I have real trouble understanding how he could have missed it.
    Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap, which have neither storehouse nor barn; and God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than a pesky raven?
    It is difficult to stand idly by and watch the vacuum of ignorance being filled with lies

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    Whats even more perplexing to me is why didn't the other Flags point it out to him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turret Buster View Post
    Whats even more perplexing to me is why didn't the other Flags point it out to him?
    Sophomoric one-upmanship
    Consider the ravens, for they neither sow nor reap, which have neither storehouse nor barn; and God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than a pesky raven?
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    One thing I really used to appreciate about the USMC was that they did not wear inordinate amounts of I-showed-up administrative award fruit salad.

    Not so any more ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSTemplar View Post
    Had to be intentional. No officer would make that mistake. Ever.
    ...
    Last edited by TerryK; 02-10-2019 at 05:11 PM.
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    Officers do sometimes make mistakes. The smart thing is to be very discreet in mentioning them. I recall watching one of my bosses struggling to re-assemble his 1911. I probably should have helped, but feigned ignorance, and indeed it had been a long time since I had seen one in pieces, but it really isn't all that complicated if you took it apart.
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    Well he in in the chair force.
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    There was a lot of worthwhile stuff in my military service, but I had a bad habit of busting out laughing at stuff that some people took real seriously. This would be one of those.
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    I have to ask. Why is this news worthy? Its not like out military officers are infallible. If this was the worst mistake the military makes this month, IMHO, we should all be thankful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSTemplar View Post
    Had to be intentional. No officer would make that mistake. Ever.
    I'm sure he looked down and they looked ok...

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    Maybe it was a "mistake"........or.......maybe it wasn't.

    Never during my 22 years of military service did I ever see or even hear of someone wearing their ribbons upside down unless they were a total "boot" or it was intentional. I call B.S. that it was accidental. And if it was accident this general is just a total moron!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    He blamed it on his aide prior to saying "I take responsibility"...
    I used to service government contracts and anyone who knows anything about the military knows how big they are into CYA.

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    I spent 2 years of my life where I wore my tux 2-4 times a week. There were certain office specific pins and such that I wore. Quite clearly one can't do this with only ONE tux. So, about every other week one would go to the dri-cleaner and the other would be set up so I didn't have to think a lot after work. just climb into the monkey suit and drive QUICKLY to some place in my District for the "festivities" (Installations of Officers or Inspections, or on occasions District meetings).
    More than once I looked down as I got out of the car and went unprintable missing something that SHOULD have been on the tux. I can understand his chagrin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    There was a lot of worthwhile stuff in my military service, but I had a bad habit of busting out laughing at stuff that some people took real seriously. This would be one of those.
    I know, right? Some people obsess over their fruit salad. Obsessively.

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    I was designated to hold the guidon for a change-of-command ceremony, and we did a rehearsal the day before. The old CO saluted it and I passed it to him, who then turned to the new CO who saluted it and took it from the old CO who saluted it again, and the new CO passed it to me. By the time it got back to me I could barely stand from laughing so hard. They found someone else to hold it for the real ceremony.
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    If I were President I would now want to know everything about that officer
    and make a determination if he should be replaced.

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    Are you kidding? An officer who admits his mistakes? He should be promoted!
    Better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.

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