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    4 Venezuela Regime Change - Ongoing Civil Strife and New National Power Outages

    Housecarl caught this in his Winds of War thread with the article that he posted today:

    Brazil says it recognizes Venezuelan opposition leader as president

    (meaning the it recognizes Venezuela's Congressional leader as the rightful president of Venezuela. Maduro was just sworn in 2 days ago for another term).

    Link: http://news.trust.org/item/20190112140040-1djls

    Read that & then this longer article. But, especially view this 12:53 YT by the Florida Maquis, who has been all over this issue for months. You can skip the embedded video that starts at 2:56 and runs to 10:47. Just watch the beginning & the end. He believes we are watching a spark for something much larger than regime change. He believes we are going to be watching a much wider war in the Americas.

    Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsvGGSKbNok

    Meanwhile, also 2 days ago, the Organization of the American States permanent council approved a resolution to not recognize Nicolas Maduro as leader. They also kicked this resolution up to the UN. Read this article:

    Permanent Council Approves Resolution to Not Recognize the Legitimacy of the Maduro Regime

    On January 10, 2019, the OAS Permanent Council approved a resolution to not recognize the Nicolas Maduro dictatorship. The measure was adopted with 19 votes in favor, 6 against, 8 abstentions and one absent. Ambassador Carlos Trujillo addressed the Council.

    Remarks by Ambassador Carlos Trujillo January 10, 2019

    Mr. Chairman, today is a critical day for those striving to preserve the little that remains of democracy in Venezuela, and for the credibility of the OAS. Today’s sham Presidential inauguration, achieved through a fraudulent election, is another decisive step away from democracy and toward dictatorship by a regime that has repeatedly and wantonly undermined democratic institutions and violated human rights. Today was also a critical test for the OAS, to seize this opportunity to act in defense of democracy and human rights in Venezuela.

    On June 5, 2018, the OAS General Assembly passed a resolution stating that the May 20, 2018 Presidential election – the basis for the sham inauguration today – failed to comply (even minimally) with international standards, and therefore lacked basic legitimacy. We here all know it was an undemocratic sham by any standard.

    Moreover, in its June resolution the OAS General Assembly urged restoration of the full authority of the democratically elected National Assembly, and pressed the Venezuelan government to allow the entry of humanitarian aid to prevent a spreading humanitarian and public health crisis. It also identified increased migration of Venezuelans fleeing the economic and political collapse of Venezuela.

    The General Assembly called upon OAS member states to implement measures to help restore democratic order in Venezuela, and pledged to apply the letter and spirt of the Inter-American Democratic Charter for the defense and preservation of democracy in Venezuela.

    Mr. Chairman, it has been six months since the OAS approved that resolution. Has the situation improved? Has progress been made? Can any member state point to anything that the Maduro regime has done to comply with OAS resolutions? Has the Maduro regime done anything to restore democracy or protect human rights?

    In fact, as we all know, and as we have all discussed many times in various OAS bodies including this one, the opposite is true. The Maduro regime has only stepped up its attack on democratic institutions and deepened its repression of democratic actors. Do democratic governments throw their rivals out of 10th floor windows, use food as a weapon against their own populations, and hold sham elections that are fixed in advance in their own favor?

    Meanwhile, not coincidentally, the humanitarian crisis has gotten dramatically worse. Can any member state cite any credible reason for which the OAS should refrain from acting responsibly in defense of democracy in Venezuela now? If there was room for legitimate debate before, there is none now. Not anymore. Nicolas Maduro’s inauguration is an undemocratic sham, and the OAS Permanent Council should take decisive note of this fact here and now.

    Mr. Chairman, this brings me to our second, perhaps equally important question. Is the OAS serious about protecting democracy and human rights? Is it consequential in carrying out its most fundamental responsibilities? The current circumstance is shaping up as a decisive test case.

    I congratulate the member states of the OAS who stood up for our values and principles in defense of democracy and the protection of human rights. Failure to recognize the situation in Venezuela for what it is not a legitimate option. The facts of the case are unambiguous and glaringly clear. The credibility of the OAS is at stake.

    We thank those member states that stood on the side of democracy and human rights. As Secretary of State Pompeo has stated: “It is time for Venezuelan leaders to make a choice. We urge those who support this regime, from every day employees getting by on food subsidies to the Venezuelan security forces sworn to support the constitution, to stop enabling repression and corruption and to work with the National Assembly and its duly elected leader, Juan Guaido, in accordance with your constitution on a peaceful return to democracy. The Venezuelan people and the international community will remember and judge your actions. Now is the time to convince the Maduro dictatorship that the moment has arrived for democracy to return to Venezuela.”

    Thank you.

    The resolution was approved with 19 votes in favor (Argentina, Bahamas, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, United States, Guatemala, Guyana, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Dominican Republic, and Saint Lucia); 6 against (Bolivia, Dominica, Nicaragua, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Suriname, and Venezuela); 8 abstentions (Mexico, St. Kitts and Nevis, Trinidad and Tobago, Uruguay, Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Belize, and El Salvador); and one absent (Grenada).

    Following is the complete text of the resolution:

    RESOLUTION ON THE SITUATION IN VENEZUELA

    (Adopted by the Permanent Council at its special meeting held on January 10, 2019)

    THE PERMANENT COUNCIL OF THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN STATES,
    REAFFIRMING the right of the peoples of the Americas to democracy and the obligation of their governments to promote and defend it as reflected in Article 1 of the Inter-American Democratic Charter,
    RECALLING that, through resolution AG/RES. 2929 (XLVIII-O/18) of June 5, 2018, the General Assembly declared that the May 20, 2018 electoral process in Venezuela lacked legitimacy for not having met the participation of all Venezuelan political actors, its failure to comply with international standards, and for being carried out without the necessary guarantees for a free, fair, transparent, and democratic process,

    CONSIDERING that the 2019-2025 presidential period beginning in Venezuela on the 10th of January of 2019 is the result of an illegitimate electoral process,
    UNDERSCORING the constitutional authority of the democratically elected National Assembly.

    REITEREITING ITS DEEP CONCERN about the worsening political, economic, social and humanitarian crisis in Venezuela resulting from the breakdown of democratic order and serious human rights violations in that state, and the government of Venezuela’s negligence to meet the fundamental Inter-American standards of human rights and democracy;

    RECOGNIZING that, as a consequence, a significant number of Venezuelans are being forced to flee the country because their basic needs have not been met.

    REITEREITING its serious concern about the collapse of Venezuela’s health-care system, which has led to a reemergence of previously eradicated infectious diseases across Venezuela and into neighboring countries and the wider region.

    NOTING that the exodus of Venezuelans is having an impact on the capacity of countries in the region to meet their humanitarian needs and poses challenges to public health and security.

    TAKING NOTE, in this regard, of the Quito Declaration on the human mobility of Venezuelan citizens in the region, of September 4th 2018, and its Plan of Action adopted on November 23rd 2018.

    CONDEMNING in the strongest terms the arbitrary detentions, lack of due process and the violation of other human rights of political prisoners by the Government of Venezuela.

    UNDERSCORING that the Permanent Council and the Meeting of Consultation of Foreign Ministers remain ready to engage in diplomatic initiatives, including good offices, aimed at promoting dialogue in Venezuela, with a view to arriving at a political solution to the crisis in that country.

    RESOLVES:
    To not recognize the legitimacy of Nicolas Maduro’s new term as of the 10th of January of 2019.

    To reaffirm that only through a national dialogue with the participation of all Venezuelan political actors and stakeholders can national reconciliation be achieved and the necessary conditions agreed upon for holding a new electoral process that truly reflects the will of the Venezuelan citizens and peacefully resolves the current crisis in that country.

    To urge all Members States and invite Permanent Observers of the OAS to adopt, in accordance with international law and their national legislation, diplomatic, political, economic and financial measures that they consider appropriate, to contribute to the prompt restoration of the democratic order of Venezuela.

    To call for new Presidential elections with all necessary guarantees of a free, fair, transparent, and legitimate process to be held at an early date attended by international observers.

    To invite Member States and Permanent Observers to implement measures to address the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela and impacted countries, through the support to appropriate international and regional organizations.

    To urge the Venezuelan regime to allow the immediate entry of humanitarian aid to the people in Venezuela, including epidemiological surveillance, to prevent the aggravation of the humanitarian and public health crisis, particularly against the reappearance and propagation of diseases.

    To demand the immediate and unconditional release of all political prisoners.
    To express the Organization’s ongoing solidarity with the Venezuelan people and its commitment to remain seized of the situation in Venezuela and to support diplomatic measures that facilitate the restoration of democratic institutions and the full respect for human rights.

    To instruct the Secretary General to transmit the text of this resolution to the Secretary General of the United Nations.

    By U.S. Mission OAS | 10 January, 2019

    Link: https://usoas.usmission.gov/permanen...maduro-regime/
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    The OAS has been working on/worrying about this situation for some time. Along with the FUSA, which is also an OAS member. Spent some time on the phone with some of my folks at Bragg this AM, no ripples in their waters just yet.
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    But if they're the usual level of smart, they're re-checking their loadouts and go-bags....
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    How about pushing the idea of a constitutional republic as democracies seem to lead to marxist forms of government no better than they have right now.
    We are fighting democrats that want to turn our country into a democracy which by the way is illegal for them to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    How about pushing the idea of a constitutional republic as democracies seem to lead to marxist forms of government no better than they have right now.
    We are fighting democrats that want to turn our country into a democracy which by the way is illegal for them to do.
    Since when has illegality stood in the way of the democrats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    How about pushing the idea of a constitutional republic as democracies seem to lead to marxist forms of government no better than they have right now.
    We are fighting democrats that want to turn our country into a democracy which by the way is illegal for them to do.
    From 1956 to the election of Chavez in the 1990s, Venezuela operated under a constitution that was based on the US Constitution and was, in fact, a Constitutional Republic although just as the US system has morphed over the years, so too had the one in Venezuela.

    But the election campaigns were designed to not conflict with elections in the US so the same "campaign managers" and lobby groups could run both US and Venezuelan elections.

    The major difference between the old Venezuelan Constitution and that of the US was the President served for one five year term; he or she could not run again for 10 years; there was actually one President who did two terms that way 10 years apart but that was rare.

    I believe it was soon are the CIA attempted Coup against Chavez that he got voters to vote for a new constitution; though already by that point there is some question as to that being a legitimate vote and/or if voters really understood what they were voting for (basically a dictatorship).

    So all that would need to happen to re-establish the Constitutional Republic would be to strike down the "new" constitution and bring back the old one; perhaps with a few tweaks or even a constitutional convention.

    Things were in no way perfect under that Constitutional Republic system but then it isn't in the US either; in the US you tend to get corporations and banks owning politicians and in Venezuela, you tended to get Corporations and Cronyism running the show but in both places on paper, the system is designed pretty well.

    However, any time you get humans in charge, any system is going to morph into something less ideal than originally intended but if it works well not so far off that the public can't live with it.
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    It's a banana republic.

    Maduro is in charge until he meets the golden BB.


    I'm highly surprised that he hasn't.
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    EHA News
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    #BREAKING #Venezuela|n intelligence agents have detained opposition leader Juan Guaido- Guaido's wife via Twitter



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    Retweeted Juan Guaidó

    ### #BREAKING: The president of the Parliament Juan Guaido reportedly kidnapped by the Maduro regime unit SEBIN, his twitter account says. His whereabouts are unknows. Details to follow. #Venezuela
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    Wow.





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    #BREAKING Moments of #Venezuela opposition leader

    Little vid of him getting snatched:

    https://twitter.com/guyelster
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    News flash
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    #BREAKING: Video reportedly shows the kidnapping of the president of #Venezuela's parliament Juan Guaidó by the SEBIN intelligence unit. He was on a trip to the State of Vargas, north of the capital #Caracas.
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    Ana Vanessa Herrero
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    #BREAKING SEBIN just arrested correspondent @osmarycnn and @Beadrian according to @ApexVenezuela . Please RT. They were taken to SEBIN Plaza Venezuela.
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    Guy Elster
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    #BREAKING #Venezuela|n opposition leader Juan Guaido has been released: congress official
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    Venezuelan Intelligence Agents Arrested Opposition Leader Juan Guaido - Reports:

    Venezuelan Intelligence Agents Arrested Opposition Leader Juan Guaido - Reports
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    11:37 AM · Jan 13, 2019 · https://t.co/VRj182zrA2?amp=1

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    Not good!

    BREAKING: Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido has been detained after calling for President Maduro's ouster - REU
    11:37 AM · Jan 13, 2019 ·

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    #BREAKING: Two journalists covering the arrest of Venezuelan opposition leader including CNN Venezuela Corespondent
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    arrested by Maduro regime forces via:
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    so ….as we speak they are in route to speak with one another..... one will die and the other will continue to lead the country into oblivion

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    Global Analytica
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    #BREAKING | The officers involved in the arrest of Juan Guaido are to be dismissed, and Guaido has been released.


    Venezuela: Lawmaker Juan Guaido Released, Rogue Officers Responsible for Arrest

    Published 13 January 2019

    Juan Guaido will be released from detention.

    Venenzuelan Vice President of Communication announced that a group of rogue police officers took it upon themselves to detain Juan Guaido, a lawmaker in Venezuela's National Assembly, and that those officials have been dismissed, and the lawmaker released.

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...0113-0014.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    Global Analytica
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    #BREAKING | The officers involved in the arrest of Juan Guaido are to be dismissed, and Guaido has been released.


    Venezuela: Lawmaker Juan Guaido Released, Rogue Officers Responsible for Arrest

    Published 13 January 2019

    Juan Guaido will be released from detention.

    Venenzuelan Vice President of Communication announced that a group of rogue police officers took it upon themselves to detain Juan Guaido, a lawmaker in Venezuela's National Assembly, and that those officials have been dismissed, and the lawmaker released.

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/...0113-0014.html
    Talk about CYA....

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    Shades of Henry II and Thomas a` Beckett.
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    Because everybody knows that it's bad form to arrest a political opponent.

    You send two anonymous guys with machine guns on a motorcycle to "fix" things.
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    More pertinent information from the Florida Maquis' YT channel last night. A 10:21 long video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX84KS54TsI
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    Boom...

    Venezuela congress seeks freeze on Maduro government foreign accounts: document

    CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela’s opposition-run congress is considering a measure that would ask dozens of foreign governments to seek a freeze on bank accounts controlled by the government of President Nicolas Maduro, according to draft documents seen by Reuters.
    Congress is also preparing to formally declare Maduro a usurper following his inauguration on Jan. 10 to a disputed second term, according to a second draft document, which says all of his actions will be null and void. The United States and many Latin American nations say his leadership is illegitimate or that he has become a dictator.

    Congress will formally request that governments instruct regulatory agencies to “prohibit any movement of liquid assets by the Venezuelan state in local bank accounts” due to the Maduro government’s lack of legitimacy, according to one of the documents.
    The governments include those in the United States, European Union, and Latin American neighbors such as Chile and Brazil.
    The legislature is preparing to formally declare that Maduro has usurped power, according to a second draft document, following a 2018 election that the opposition widely boycotted on the grounds that it was rigged and many governments refused to recognize. Congress would consider all of Maduro’s decisions null and void.

    Both documents were on the legislature’s agenda for Tuesday’s session, and legislators told Reuters they expected both measures to be approved in the afternoon.

    Venezuela’s Information Ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    The pro-government Supreme Court, which has been in open conflict with the legislature since the opposition took it over in 2016, has ruled that all laws that the institution passes are null.

    Writing by Brian Ellsworth; Editing by Richard Chang

    Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-v...-idUSKCN1P920G
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    As I mentioned on the other thread, I have no way of verifying this (I wouldn't dare e-mail my sources on this one) but I am starting to wonder if the Bus Driver finds himself now stuck in his Presidential Palace in the middle of a military base; unable or afraid to come out.

    The Military is starting to turn on him, or the legislature could not possibly have been passed and the doors of their Congress still be open.

    By opening talking about the opposition leader as the "real" President, it also signals the military (who traditionally takes over when things get way-way out of hand) wants to maintain at least the appearance of returning to the Constitutional Republic.

    They also may be thinking that a young, handsome, slightly left-wing politician may be easier for some of the former Chavez supporters to support and might be fairly easy for them to control.

    If not, they are probably thinking they can always install one of the own later if they feel they have to; in either a slightly right or slightly left-wing military dictatorship (at least for a while).
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    #BREAKING: Venezuelan parliament votes in favour for a resolution calling for the Armed Forces to restore the constitution and declared the president as a 'usurper' in accordance with article 333 of the constitution. @JoseAMendozaPJ #SesionAN
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    Venezuela opposition tries luring soldiers away from Maduro

    By The Associated Press
    Tues., Jan. 15, 2019

    CARACAS, VENEZUELA—Opposition lawmakers in Venezuela are trying to pry the military’s loyalty away from President Nicolas Maduro, offering protection to members of the armed forces who support a transitional government.
    Congress passed a declaration Tuesday declaring Maduro’s rulings invalid and giving amnesty to members of the military who help return Venezuela to democratic rule.

    Maduro has cultivated a stronghold within the military even as Venezuela collapses in a historic economic and political crisis.
    Venezuela analyst Diego Moya-Ocampos says the opposition is offering the armed forces incentives to break away rather than continue supporting Maduro.

    Maduro was sworn this month in to a second term following elections critics reject as a sham.

    The pro-Maduro Supreme Court earlier had ruled that acts of the opposition-dominated congress are invalid.

    Link: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/a...om-maduro.html
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    The Florida Maquis is on this topic again & calls this current situation: "The greatest geopolitical miscalculation that the United States has ever made". Hyperbole? See for yourself. 12:04 in length. He also discusses prepping attitudes in the last minute & 1/2. Here's the link:

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    Brazil, Argentina step up pressure on Venezuela's Maduro

    January 16, 2019 / 9:08 AM

    BRASILIA (Reuters) - Brazil’s far-right President Jair Bolsonaro and Argentina’s President Mauricio Macri said after their first meeting on Wednesday that they agreed on opposing Venezuela’s authoritarian government, with Macri calling Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro a “dictator.”

    They also agreed to continue integrating their economies by “perfecting” the South American trade bloc Mercosur and pressing ahead with negotiations that are already underway, such as an almost completed free-trade accord with the European Union.

    Bolsonaro’s commitment to Mercosur contrasted with his criticism of the customs union during his election campaign, when he said it had become a leftist political forum and not a tool to boost trade.

    But since he took office on Jan. 1, Mercosur’s two largest members are now working in tandem on conservative agendas of free-market, business-friendly reforms and the strengthening of democracy in the region.

    Bolsonaro and Macri agree on joining the United States in ramping up pressure for democratic change in Venezuela, whose leftist government they consider illegitimate.

    “Our cooperation with Argentina on the Venezuelan question it the clearest example of a convergence of positions and shared values,” Bolsonaro said after meeting with Macri.

    Argentine Foreign Minister Jorge Faurie said the only legally constituted power in Venezuela was the opposition-run Congress, whose leader the Trump administration is considering recognizing as the country’s legitimate president.

    Macri and Bolsonaro “agree we want to defend freedom and the recovery of democracy in Venezuela,” Faurie told reporters.
    Argentina and Brazil also signed a new extradition treaty to increase their cooperation in fighting organized crime, drug trafficking, corruption and money laundering.

    In a joint statement, the presidents vowed to review Mercosur’s common external tariff, improve access to markets and move forward with trade facilitation and regulatory convergence.

    Brazil is Argentina’s largest trade partner and Argentina is the main destination for Brazilian manufactured goods. But trade often took a back seat during leftist governments in both countries during the last decade and a half.

    There has been a big drop in trade flows in recent years, when Argentina exported less to Brazil and Mercosur, as a whole, became less important to Brazil as a percentage of its global trade, dropping to 8.7 percent last year from 10.8 in 2011.
    Bolsonaro would like to see more flexible rules allowing Brazil to negotiate bilateral agreements outside the bloc. His economy minister Paulo Guedes has said Mercosur restricts Brazil too much and would not be a priority.

    Wednesday’s presidential meeting showed Mercosur is still high on Brazil’s agenda.

    “Brazil will be a strong ally in building an integrated region,” Bolsonaro said. “We are confident Mercosur can be modernized.”
    This could happen with two presidents who want to revamp the trade block, said Oliver Stuenkel, assistant professor of International Relations at the Getúlio Vargas Foundation in São Paulo.

    “There is an opportunity because now we have two governments that agree it has not delivered and there is a need to re-energize Mercosur or whatever takes its place,” Stuenkel said.

    Link: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKCN1PA23T
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    civil war imminent?

    Venezuelan military in Peru ignores Maduro and backs Guaidó | VIDEO A group of Venezuelan military in Peru, headed by Lieutenant Josue Hidalgo Azuaje , issued a video statement denouncing the "usurpation of the presidency of Venezuela" by Nicolás Maduro and recognize Juan Guaidó as interim president EC Drafting
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    A group of Venezuelan military in Peru issued a statement through a video in which they ignored Nicolás Maduro as president of Venezuela and backed the president of the National Assembly Juan Guaidó as interim president.

    In the video, the first lieutenant Josue Hidalgo Azuaje , who escaped from the Ramo Verde prison along with other officials of the Bolivarian National Guard after being accused of conspiracy, addresses the international community to denounce "the serious social crisis, economic, political and constitutional that affects the healthy and prosperous development "of Venezuela .


    "We declare, with all responsibility, that we adhere to our oath to defend our people and enforce the laws and the constitution of our republic." For this reason, we do not know Nicolás Maduro Moro as president of Venezuela and commander-in-chief of the Force. Bolivarian National Army: We alert the international community to the usurpation of the presidency of the republic, "Hidalgo said in the statement.

    Likewise, the Venezuelan lieutenant affirmed that "based on the constitution" Juan Guaidó recognizes "in his capacity as president of the National Assembly as interim president of Venezuela " and endorses "the decisions that, within the framework of the constitution, he decides to take for the restitution of the constitutional order ".https://elcomercio.pe/mundo/venezuel...noticia-598459

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    How about pushing the idea of a constitutional republic as democracies seem to lead to marxist forms of government no better than they have right now.
    We are fighting democrats that want to turn our country into a democracy which by the way is illegal for them to do.
    How well is that working for Mexico?

    The result will be the same. Only more people will be eligible for the bribes.

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    If you have not subscribed to the Florida Maquis on YT yet, I would recommend him. Here’s his 12:40 long installment for today on this regime change issue (which he says is being controlled completely from Miami):

    1*17*19~ CRISIS ACTORS EXPOSED! DEEP STATE DESPERATELY TRYING FOR REGIME CHANGE IN VENEZUELA!

    Here’s the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuN0Sn6D8YA
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    For links see article source.....
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    https://news.yahoo.com/free-venezuel...120000446.html

    ‘Free Venezuela!’ Cries of Dissent Suddenly Ring Out in Caracas

    Alex Vasquez, Patricia Laya and Fabiola Zerpa, Bloomberg • January 19, 2019

    (Bloomberg) -- Surprising noises rang out in eastern Caracas a few hours after Nicolas Maduro was sworn in for a second term as Venezuela’s president. People were banging pots together, heavy ones from the sounds of it.

    They were shouting too, mostly profanities, but also “Maduro is an assassin!” and “Free Venezuela!” It was incredible, the kind of racket most Caraquenos hadn’t heard -- or had the energy to make -- for more than a year.

    The cacophony that evening nine days ago, a revival of the pot-clanging that used to be a popular form of protest, was the surest proof yet that there has been a shift in the mood in a capital city beaten down by an unprecedented economic collapse and a regime keen on suppressing dissent.

    Monica Hernandez, a school teacher, summed it up this way: “I have hope.”

    The down-with-Maduro spark has been reignited, and it’s being fanned by a 35-year-old lawmaker most people in the city couldn’t have picked out of a lineup two weeks ago. Juan Guaido, head of the National Assembly, started to soar to political rock-star status with his declaration at a rally after Maduro’s inauguration that he was ready to assume the presidency himself in the place of a “usurper” whose hold on the office is widely viewed as illegitimate.

    Then, sealing his shot toward fame, he was arrested and briefly detained by the secret police. Venezuelans who have ignored other opposition calls to demonstrate might well heed Guaido’s to attend nationwide protests on Jan. 23, a holiday celebrating the country’s turn to democracy six decades ago.

    No matter that it’s highly unlikely Guaido will be moving into Miraflores Palace anytime soon. WhatsApp lit up with messages praising him; one said, simply, “This boy has balls.” Internet chat groups dedicated to water-rationing schedules were flooded with discussion-chains about his chances.

    People posted pledges to “hit the streets” on Jan. 23. They circulated photos of the lawmaker with his partner and their daughter, decorated with hearts and the caption, “Presidential Family.”

    For all the enthusiasm for Guaido and his audacious idea about replacing Maduro, there’s also a fair amount of confusion. In a bakery in the Chacao district, Jose Vergara took a break from brewing a pot of coffee behind the counter to set some customers straight: They’d been excitedly discussing the fact that Guaido had become president.

    No, Vergara explained, there are a few more steps to make something like that happen. “We need the military,” he said, “and protests.”

    The bakery is one of the businesses planning to close on protest day, so employees can be on the streets. Ely Toubia, a pediatrician at a school in western Caracas, said the administration gave the entire staff permission to take time off to march. “There is a lot of enthusiasm among my neighbors and my work colleagues,” she said.

    There isn’t much concern about losing a day’s wages. “With the money I make, I can’t afford anything anyway,” said a manicurist in a beauty parlor who gave only her first name, Nilsa.

    Venezuelans had pretty much given up on publicly challenging the Maduro regime after the street protests of 2017 that drew millions, claimed hundreds of lives and resulted in thousands of arrests. With runaway inflation, shortages of food and medicine, long queues for goods that are available, rampant crime, water rationing -- people have been too despondent, and exhausted, to muster enthusiasm for organized opposition.

    And to be sure, support for the Guaido movement isn’t universal. More than a few Caraquenos have no idea who he is. There is a deep, and understandable, fear of the police and the security forces among most people. Maduro, Hugo Chavez’s hand-picked successor, still has fans.

    Dozens of them watched from a distance a few days ago as the opposition held one of its curbside “town hall” meetings in Caracas. Some 400 people showed up for the event in the slum of El Valle, by long tradition a Chavista bulwark, no doubt attracted by rumors Guaido would be there.

    “This country will be free whether Maduro likes it or not,” yelled a skinny man waving a Venezuelan flag, to great applause. The Maduro supporters yelled back, “Venezuela is not for sale!”

    When Guaido is sure to make an appearance, the crowds can swell. Nasra Abdulo, an accountant at one of his recent rallies, looked around and did a head-count, pointing out that there were many hundreds in attendance -- “a sample of what’s coming on January 23.”

    To contact the reporters on this story: Alex Vasquez in Caracas Office at avasquez45@bloomberg.net;Patricia Laya in Caracas at playa2@bloomberg.net;Fabiola Zerpa in Caracas Office at fzerpa@bloomberg.net
    To contact the editors responsible for this story: Daniel Cancel at dcancel@bloomberg.net, Anne Reifenberg


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    The Florida Maquis continues to diligently cover this topic. Here’s his 11:14 contribution for today. Subject: Columbia Staged Event Designed to Justify Military Incursion into Venezuela

    Link:https://youtu.be/kQPjw-Fa7Ys
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    Venezuela quells soldiers’ revolt, top court blasts congress
    By FABIOLA SANCHEZ 1/21/2019

    CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuela plunged deeper into turmoil on Monday as security forces put down a pre-dawn uprising by national guardsmen that triggered violent street protests and the Supreme Court outlawed the opposition-controlled congress’ defiant new leadership.

    The mutiny triggered protests in a poor neighborhood just a few miles (kilometers) from Venezuela’s presidential palace. It was dispersed with tear gas as residents set fire to a barricade of trash and chanted demands that President Nicolas Maduro leave power.
    The military said in a statement said that it had recovered all the weapons and captured those involved in what it described as “treasonous” acts motivated by “obscure interests tied to the far right.”

    It said at around 2:50 a.m. (06:50 GMT), a small group of guardsmen took captive a captain in charge of a police station in western Caracas and then moved across the capital in two military trucks to the poor neighborhood of Petare, where they stole a cache of weapons from another outpost.

    They were caught a few hours later at a national guard outpost 3 kilometers (2 miles) from the Miraflores presidential palace.
    A few hours earlier, a group of heavily armed national guardsmen published a series of videos on social media saying they won’t recognize Maduro’s government, which has come under increasing domestic and international pressure over a newly begun second term that the opposition-controlled congress and many nations consider illegitimate.

    In one of the videos, a man identifying himself as 3rd Sgt. Alexander Bandres Figueroa, addressing the “people of Venezuela,” urges his compatriots to take to the streets to show support for their rebellion.

    “You asked to take to the streets to defend the constitution, well here we are,” he said in a video shot at night in which several heavily armed men and a national guard truck can be seen in the background.

    “You wanted us to light the fuse, so we did. We need your support,” he added.
    At daybreak in the adjacent neighborhood of Cotiza, a group of shirtless young men, some with their faces covered, built a barricade across the street with a burning car, heavy sewer grates and a large chunk of concrete.
    An angry group of women shouted that they have lived for too long without running water.
    “Freedom! Freedom!” they chanted. “Maduro has to go!”
    “We must defend our homeland,” Maria Fernanda Rodriguez, a 36-year-old manicurist, told The Associated Press, her eyes welling from the tear gas.

    Hours later, the government-stacked Supreme Court said it was throwing out recent measures by the National Assembly that declared Maduro’s presidency illegitimate, deepening a standoff with the opposition-controlled legislature.
    The justices ruled that the new leadership of congress itself is invalid, and urged the country’s chief prosecutor to investigate whether congressional leaders had acted criminally in openly defying the nation’s constitution.

    Juan Guaido, president of congress, shrugged off the court’s warning and reiterated his call for people to take to the streets Wednesday — a historic date commemorating the end of Venezuela’s military dictatorship in 1958 — to demand Maduro abandon power.
    “The National Assembly is the only institution elected by the people of Venezuela,” Guaido said at a press conference at the legislature.
    Dozens of foreign governments have refused to recognize Maduro’s second term, some saying they are ready to recognize Guaido as interim president until fair elections can be held.

    In addition, the Trump administration is weighing tougher financial sanctions on Venezuela, while a dozen mostly conservative Latin American and Caribbean governments said they will block officials from Maduro’s government from entering their countries and take steps to freeze assets that are the byproduct of corruption while discontent among Venezuelans is rising amid widespread food shortages and hyperinflation, Maduro is believed to have the loyalty of his top military command. In the past, troops have easily put down small uprisings.

    Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez said on Twitter that those responsible for the incident would be punished with the full force of the law.

    Maduro was the target of an apparent assassination attempt Aug. 4 when two drones armed with explosives detonated near him as he spoke at a military parade. Officials have jailed dozens of suspects, including an opposition lawmaker.

    In June 2017, rogue police officer Oscar Perez stole a helicopter and flew it over the capital, launching grenades at the Supreme Court building. He and several comrades died in a gunbattle with police after months on the lam.

    Link: https://www.apnews.com/f54498b2dc9a430aa04d1d2b82d629c1
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    Tick, tick, tick....

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    #SEBIN officials in #Venezuela should reconsider the plan they have for tomorrow before it’s too late.

    You are about to cross a line & trigger a response that believe me you are not prepared to face.

    You still have time to avoid this.
    6:43 PM · Jan 22, 2019

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    This could get hot in the coming hours

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    My take on this is that for whatever reason, the "Deep State" or at least a fraction of the "them" (whoever "they" are) decided a few months ago that they were tired of dealing with The Bus Driver and his cronies; they simply didn't want to "wait him out" as they seem to have been doing for the last couple of years.

    They are now using their classic playbook, a "softer" version of the CIA sponsored coup that backfired so spectacularly when the US Administration "recognized" the rebels not realizing Chavez was still in control which led to wave of patriotism similar to the US after 9/11 when plenty of people who couldn't stand Bush Jr. suddenly rallied around the flag.

    That took a few years of terrible governing and descent into total chaos before people are now really almost beyond the point where a real revolt is possible (historically really starving people don't revolt, they may get up and leave but they are too tired to do much of anything other than scavenging for food).

    "Someone" has finally realized this, and that "waiting it out" might take several more years as most of the population just flees the country and will continue to do so - if they are desperate enough? Well, Rwanda proved that if they are terrified enough 4 million people can just pick up and start walking and even bullets only stop the ones they hit.

    I suspect a limited war using Brazil, Equador and Colombia are the "Plan B" but the US/Deep State/whoever would prefer to have this seems like an "internal revolution" and will be happy to pay and/or support various obvious opposition groups like the Congress and try to get the military on board since historically they stage the removal of an El Presidente that simply goes too far off the rails.

    I mean I'm happy to see the jerk go, but I would also hate to see him replaced with something worse and I am quite familiar what can happen in a Latin American country when the so-called "right" (which isn't the same thing as in the US exactly) decide to march in, purge everything and everyone that went before and then proceeds to enrich themselves selling off the county to any multinational or foreign government that will feather their nests.

    Which doesn't mean I don't want to see change, I do and so does everyone I know that lives there; but a different flavor of fascism isn't a good solution either - though in the short term I suspect many people are desperate enough to support anyone that gets food back on the table.
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    March to restore constitutional order & democracy in #Venezuela set to begin at 10am #Caracas time (9am Eastern in the U.S.).
    Important to know context behind todays events. They are entirely rooted in the constitution of #Venezuela 1/4

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    We’re expecting a statement from @POTUS soon (who is right now in Oval Office) on #Venezuela and it is expected he might recognize opposition leader @jguaido as the South American country’s legitimate leader. – at The White HouseELINT News Retweeted

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    TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TELLS US ENERGY COMPANIES IT COULD IMPOSE #VENEZUELA OIL SANCTIONS AS SOON AS THIS WEEK IF POLITICAL SITUATION THERE DETERIORATES FURTHER -SOURCES: RTRS. #OOTT

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    Trump prepared to recognize Venezuela’s Guaidó as president, CNN says

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    live protests at the link

    Thousands of Venezuelans turn to the streets to demand the departure of Nicolás Maduro https://www.univision.com/noticias/c...nicolas-maduro

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