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    Last week I found 3 packages of Duracell AAA batteries had leaked that were supposed to be good until 2023. Emailed Duracell and answered all their numerous questions regarding how they were stored, where they were bought and on and on and on. Now because of the quantity involved they want me to mail them to a PO box and they will reimburse me for the mailing, they claim. The rep also stated they do not send call tags for batteries. I believe them wanting me to pay for the return is just a deterrent so I will not return them.
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by BornFree View Post
    Lead acid batteries are 1.2 volts per cell

    Carbon and Alkaline batteries are 1.5 volts per cell.
    We aren't talking about car batteries here. (not to mention I "think" those are 2.2 volts per cell)

    I was referring to the rechargeable AAA, AA, C & D batteries. These batteries are usually either nickel metal hydride or nickel cadmium both of which are 1.2 volts. (1.2 volts per cell and these are all single cell batteries)

    Sorry to the OP for derailing this thread a bit.
    Last edited by Mercury3; 01-12-2019 at 07:41 AM. Reason: spelling

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Ayup, leaky duracells are a thing.

    I have always bought them, but they have gone to crap.

    Was at my battery guy's shop yesterday, getting some rechargeable Tenergy 123s and he was complaining about duracells leaking.

    I keep 20 packs of AA & AAA in the door pouch of the truck. The vibration makes them leak even quicker.

    Not sure what I'll start using to replace what I have in inventory.
    Get some eneloop rechargables.The latest version is supposed to retain 70% of their charge after 10 years,and be rechargable for 1500 times.Yes they are pricey,but i think worth it.

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    Well now, I received a reply from them, less than 24 hours after I sent them my nasty gram - my email. I am not sure I'll be buying anymore Duracells though. Many thanks to all who replied. I think I'll be buying another brand after all this.
    Even though I clearly stated (in my original email to Duracell) that I store my batteries in a cool, dry place, they sent an attachment on how to store batteries. I don't think they can read.



    NAconsumer.im@duracell.com via cybercrs.net

    Attachments Fri, Jan 11, 7:00 PM (17 hours ago)

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    Dear Turret Buster

    Thank you for taking the time to contact us about your recent experience with our batteries. We are always concerned when a complaint is received and appreciate your bringing the matter to our attention. I'd like to assure you that I will definitely share your feedback with the entire product team; your comments will be extremely valuable as we continue to evaluate and improve our products, now and in the future.

    There are many things that can cause batteries to leak. Some of the more common causes include exposure to extreme temperatures, moisture, where and how batteries are stored, and/or becoming shorted out by other batteries or metals.

    We apologize for any inconvenience this matter may have caused and are sending you a coupon to use toward your next purchase. You will receive your coupon in 10-15 business days.

    Sincerely,
    Ryan W.
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  5. #45
    Yep, they did the same to me. Could you post Duracell's Customer Service website?

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    I've never had a problem with Duracells, much better than any other battery available in the UK. Maybe it depends on which factory manufactures them.

    Through a number of corporate mergers and acquisitions, Duracell came to be owned by the consumer products conglomerate Procter & Gamble (P&G). In November 2014, P&G reached an agreement to sell the company to Berkshire Hathaway through a transfer of shares. Under the deal, Berkshire Hathaway exchanged the shares it held in P&G for ownership of the Duracell business.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury3 View Post
    We aren't talking about car batteries here. (not to mention I "think" those are 2.2 volts per cell)

    I was referring to the rechargeable AAA, AA, C & D batteries. These batteries are usually either nickel metal hydride or nickel cadmium both of which are 1.2 volts. (1.2 volts per cell and these are all single cell batteries)

    Sorry to the OP for derailing this thread a bit.
    OK... Yes I agree that the rechargeable s are a different story. But I didn't realize that is what you were talking about. Sorry about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentinel View Post
    Yep, they did the same to me. Could you post Duracell's Customer Service website?
    Sure thing-

    https://www.duracell.com/en-us/help/contact
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  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by fish hook View Post
    Get some eneloop rechargables.The latest version is supposed to retain 70% of their charge after 10 years,and be rechargable for 1500 times.Yes they are pricey,but i think worth it.
    I second this. Eneloop rechargables are very good. I also like the Tenergy rechargables, but Eneloop are currently my first choice for AA and AAA. I prefer Tenergy for 123's.

  10. #50
    Rather than jumping through Duracell's hoops to return/replace, I have taken the batteries in the original packaging (opened or unopened) with the obviously failing/corroding batteries back to the original retailer (Costco/Walmart/Sam's/Target) and just ask for a credit or replacement. I have never had them tell me no, or even ask for a receipt. YMMV.

    That said, I will never, ever, buy another Duracell. I have suffered one too many failures that has destroyed flashlights, radios, and other small battery operated devices.

    Energizer Lithium batteries to my knowledge don't corrode because they don't have the same chemistry. I put the Energizer Lithium in devices that I want to have in vehicles and other storage places, and which may only be used once every few years. They have a very low self discharge rate, and will work well 5 or 6 years after being stored.

    For devices that I am constantly using, I prefer the Eneloops and/or Tenergy rechargeables. These are NiMH and I don't ever recall these corroding and ruining my electronics.

    As an aside, I have some Duracells and Energizer dry cells from the early 2000's, and they didn't corrode. The corrosion problem started after the Federal Government (you know, the "Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you" crowd) required mercury to be removed from all dry cells. IIRC, trace amounts of mercury in dry cells was the secret ingredient that extended shelf life and all but eliminated corrosion failures.

    If you want to use rechargables, I HIGHLY recommend you buy the "OPUS BT-C3400" battery charger. You can get it on Amazon or Ebay, it will cost about $45, and you will never need another battery charger/refresher. Don't "save" money by buying the cheaper models (e.g. the C3100). This charger works with the nominal 1.3 volt NiCad and NiMH AAA and AA batteries, and also will charge/refresh the nominal 3.7v Lithium Ion (NOT THE ENERGIZER Lithiums which are NOT RECHARGABLE). Best consumer grade small battery charger I have ever used, hands down.
    Last edited by ParanoidNot; 01-12-2019 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kittyluvr View Post
    Last week I found 3 packages of Duracell AAA batteries had leaked that were supposed to be good until 2023. Emailed Duracell and answered all their numerous questions regarding how they were stored, where they were bought and on and on and on. Now because of the quantity involved they want me to mail them to a PO box and they will reimburse me for the mailing, they claim. The rep also stated they do not send call tags for batteries. I believe them wanting me to pay for the return is just a deterrent so I will not return them.
    Or, you might take them at their word and return them, and not be so paranoid/cynical.

  12. #52
    I've had the Duracell leak issue multiple times over the years, often at less than 3 years after purchase but well within the "expiration" date. Some entire packs have been ruined, while other packs were just fine. That's the problem--they are unreliable and therefore useless for preps. Duracell is now for day-to-day use only. My solution: lithium (expensive) or eneloops. Have not been let down by either. I've had a lithium AA in one flashlight that I only use occasionally, but it's been going strong for 5 years now.

  13. #53
    The only problem with Lithium "D" size non-chargeable is that they they don't make them. Well, they do in that size, but they are each 3.6 volts. So they can't be used in a normal "D" size appliance which expects each "D" cell to be 1.5 volts.

    I agree the AA and AAA Lithium batteries are superior in many ways.

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    I got mad at alkaline stuff for the most part. I have not decided what to do with d cells for the mag lights but they are not something I use a lot. More a handout item so the good mini flash lights can't walk off.

    Anyway, lithium and rechargables is what I have for everything. It took a while for aaa lithium to become common but energizer aaa lithium is at sams club same as aa. Or buy on net, often cheaper in bulk. I already had a bunch of the cr123a batteries. AA rechargables are common and I think now there are d size rechargables as well so will probably get some of those just to have em. And some lights will run on 18650 rechargables so got those.

    I don't trust any alkaline and I don't care if duracell or whomever pays to replace the batteries or fix whatever they broke. I don't want to go to get something during a power outage and either have it wrecked by its batteries or go to get batteries and find they are swimming in whatever slop leaks out of today's batteries.

    They changed alkaline batteries several years back, it took a while to use up my old stock but new stock worked itself right out of a job.
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    I just got a $20.00 coupon in the mail today from Duracell, along with a nice page of instructions on how to store batteries.
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackpine Savage View Post
    I've switched over to Eneloops for most things. For something I care about I put in Energizer Lithiums, they also perform better in the cold.

    Here's a guy that's been doing some testing. It doesn't address leaking or storage. Energizer Lithiums outperformed by far. On a cost basis Amazon basics was the winner followed by Energizer. Run time 10:17

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7-ghrTqA44

    I second Eneloops. I HIGHLY recommend Eneloop rechargeable batteries for most applications that require AA size batteries. They have very low self discharge properties and will hold a good charge for several years in storage. I can't say enough good about Eneloops and they are my go to AA size battery! They are the BEST of all AA batteries out there today, whether disposable or rechargeable. Get some - they are ideally suited for all preppers!

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    Duracell are made in the US, China and Belgium. In the UK we get those made in Belgium. I've never had a problem with them and they are far better than any other make available in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raffy View Post
    I second Eneloops. I HIGHLY recommend Eneloop rechargeable batteries for most applications that require AA size batteries. They have very low self discharge properties and will hold a good charge for several years in storage. I can't say enough good about Eneloops and they are my go to AA size battery! They are the BEST of all AA batteries out there today, whether disposable or rechargeable. Get some - they are ideally suited for all preppers!
    From the little bit of research I had done the Eneloops (Panasonic) are the best - I need D cells though and sadly they don't make them in D cells. I hope they will come out with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercury3 View Post
    From the little bit of research I had done the Eneloops (Panasonic) are the best - I need D cells though and sadly they don't make them in D cells. I hope they will come out with one.
    They do make adapters that are basically a D sized holder that you can put one to three double AA in. They also make C adapters. No personal experience with them.
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    Tenergy makes 10,000 mAh rechargeable D cells. They don't hold a charge in storage like the Eneloops do, but I've had good luck with the brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walrus Whisperer View Post
    I hate duracells, they never last as long as Energizers.
    we've had the very same issues with Energizers. interestingly this DIDN'T seem to be a problem before about 3 yrs ago. I noticed that SCAM's has gone from favoring the Energizer brand to Duracell about 10-12 months ago. I had always favored the Duracell over the Energizer thinking the Duracell were a better brand . . . guess not
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turret Buster View Post
    I did a Search and didn't see anything applicable.

    I went to dig out some batteries from the stash this morning and found these.



    I am not happy. I purchased these in November 2014 and they were guaranteed to last for 10 years.
    I cleaned what I could with some vinegar, but eventually had to dispose of 8 out of the 16 in two already opened packages. I sent a email to Duracell Customer Service, FWIW, and attached 4 pics - the maximum attachments allowed.

    Not happy at all.
    This is why I get the free Harbor Freight batteries once a month. I also back them up with rechargable batteries. It got me through several hurricanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerthyme View Post
    Tenergy makes 10,000 mAh rechargeable D cells. They don't hold a charge in storage like the Eneloops do, but I've had good luck with the brand.

    Summerthyme
    This is what we use in the recharging variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Or, you might take them at their word and return them, and not be so paranoid/cynical.
    Dennis, you were correct. Today I received from Duracell a check for the cost of mailing the defective batteries and 10 $10 coupons for Duracell batteries.
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    Great thread.

    When Surefire was the only game in town, I was using CR-123’s in headlamps, and handheld flashlights of the same name. Currently using a Rechargeable Surefire headlamp and a mid priced FENIX LD-41 IIRC. The FENIX flash light has 3 brightness levels, and two cadence of strobe while using 4-AA grocery store Duracell’s. I burn em about the rate of about 8-AA per month, so a pack of twenty last about 6-8 weeks depending on the job.

    I will watch the informational video later for sure.

    We should have a thread on the practical and tactical use of light disciplines. I hand my wife a 900 lumen light that also has 50 300 900 levels, and she blasts 900 lumens in a power out situation at home in our bedroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.A.B. View Post
    Great thread.

    When Surefire was the only game in town, I was using CR-123’s in headlamps, and handheld flashlights of the same name. Currently using a Rechargeable Surefire headlamp and a mid priced FENIX LD-41 IIRC. The FENIX flash light has 3 brightness levels, and two cadence of strobe while using 4-AA grocery store Duracell’s. I burn em about the rate of about 8-AA per month, so a pack of twenty last about 6-8 weeks depending on the job.

    I will watch the informational video later for sure.

    We should have a thread on the practical and tactical use of light disciplines. I hand my wife a 900 lumen light that also has 50 300 900 levels, and she blasts 900 lumens in a power out situation at home in our bedroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Ayup, leaky duracells are a thing.

    I have always bought them, but they have gone to crap.

    Was at my battery guy's shop yesterday, getting some rechargeable Tenergy 123s and he was complaining about duracells leaking.

    I keep 20 packs of AA & AAA in the door pouch of the truck. The vibration makes them leak even quicker.

    Not sure what I'll start using to replace what I have in inventory.
    Probably a product of China now.

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    Has anyone had any experience with the Member's Mark brand sold by Sam's, or happen to know who does the manufacturing contract for them?

    Recently gave up on Sunbeam AA's we bought (I believe) at Aldi's. Fortunately invested in only one package, because I couldn't get more than 3 weeks use out of one in my mouse, sometimes only 2 weeks. Both Duracell and Energizer always give me a few weeks if not a couple of months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post
    Has anyone had any experience with the Member's Mark brand sold by Sam's, or happen to know who does the manufacturing contract for them?

    Recently gave up on Sunbeam AA's we bought (I believe) at Aldi's. Fortunately invested in only one package, because I couldn't get more than 3 weeks use out of one in my mouse, sometimes only 2 weeks. Both Duracell and Energizer always give me a few weeks if not a couple of months.

    RR
    Yeah... I bought AAA and AA Members Mark batteries... they turned into a leaking disaster at least 3 years before their "use by" date. Total junk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post
    Has anyone had any experience with the Member's Mark brand sold by Sam's, or happen to know who does the manufacturing contract for them?

    Recently gave up on Sunbeam AA's we bought (I believe) at Aldi's. Fortunately invested in only one package, because I couldn't get more than 3 weeks use out of one in my mouse, sometimes only 2 weeks. Both Duracell and Energizer always give me a few weeks if not a couple of months.

    RR
    The red & white carbon-zinc Sunbeams are pretty much worthless, like other carbon-zinc batteries.

    I've been getting good results with the red & black & gold alkaline Sunbeams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summerthyme View Post
    Yeah... I bought AAA and AA Members Mark batteries... they turned into a leaking disaster at least 3 years before their "use by" date. Total junk...

    Summerthyme
    Appreciate the reply. I'll have to keep an eye on these then. Though I expect they'll be used up before the shelf life comes close to expiring. But knowing what to put away for stores is important as well. If push comes to shove I doubt I'll be too worried as to whether my mouse is working or not.

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  32. #72
    After reading the OP I went and checked on the several packages I have - 3 - 7 years old and - none of them leaked.

    Did have a radio that has been setting for 2 years and I checked on it and some of them leaked.

    But for some reason that I kind of expect.

    So for me - I'm still going to buy them.

  33. #73
    The only batters worth your time and money are eneloop batters (https://panasonic.factoryoutletstore...iAAEgIsuPD_BwE).

    And a good charger (powerex MH-C801D) ana you a set to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turret Buster View Post
    Because those GD boogeymen aren't going to flush themselves out.
    900 lumens should indeed MELT just about any boogeyman out there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by summerthyme View Post
    Yeah... I bought AAA and AA Members Mark batteries... they turned into a leaking disaster at least 3 years before their "use by" date. Total junk...

    Summerthyme
    Same thing happened to a couple packages of my Costco batteries... maybe 5 years before use date... however these were in an "environment" where they were below freezing in the winter, and prolly as high as 90 degrees in the summer. Not sure who makes them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Reliable View Post
    The only batters worth your time and money are eneloop batters (https://panasonic.factoryoutletstore...iAAEgIsuPD_BwE).

    And a good charger (powerex MH-C801D) ana you a set to go.
    My problem with Eneloops is that if you want to store a significant quantity of battery energy, for say, an extended time without power, you are going to have to buy many of them, and then recharge them once a year.
    "If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots." -Jeff Foxworthy -Hey! Maybe not anymore!!!

    Mathew 24:6 "See to it you are not alarmed." (Though He also said to "keep watch" and to build your house "on the Rock".)

  37. #77
    So any thoughts on Duracell car batteries? Sam's sells the one I need for $100 with a 5 year guarantee. Everywhere else is about $130 to$140.

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    Because of this thread pointing out an obvious problem I checked my ALL HAZARDS RADIO.

    The batteries installed around this Thanksgiving and stamped good through 2025 had leaked.

    Bye Copper Topper’s. After my current 20-Pack is burnt through in two-week installments of 4x each use in my flash light, were over.

    Going to have to give The Pink Bunny beating on the drum a try.

  39. #79
    DannyBoy you gat to do what you haft to be prepared.

    At this time I have over 50 Envelops we are talking several dollars. I have more than one powerex MH-C801D chargers.

    I only have AA and AAA batters you do know you can charge you batter in your truck with a inverter.

    Do away with all those other batters they are a waste of money Envelops will never leak.

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    I've been following this thread with interest because I've had problems with batteries in the past. So yesterday I checked all of my go bags, stash of batteries, etc. I cannot tell you how many batteries I found leaking. It was easily 20+. These were mostly Duracell, with various "good until..." dates. The ones with good 'til Aug 2019, I'd even be willing to give a pass to. But ones stored in the original packaging, in a cool, dry cellar, with dates of 2023 and 2025 ?!?! Come on, that is just crap. The really sad part is that I just checked them all last summer. So it's not like it's been 5 years or anything. I found some leaking then and just started leaving batteries OUT of everything I could and putting the batteries in little ziplock-type baggies and then putting that and the flashlight/headlamp/whatever in a larger ziplock. That way if they leak nothing gets ruined and the most I have to get rid of is a couple batteries. After finding all of the leaking ones I just went through all of my big multi-packs and broke them down in to groups of 3 or 4 and put them in small baggies. That way one leaking battery won't ruin a bunch more.

    But I will also add my vote for Eneloops, I've had them since they first came out and have NEVER had one leak. In fact I've never had any kind of rechargeable Nickel-Metal Hydride (NiMH) battery leak. I don't think I've even had more than 1 or 2 rechargeable alkaline Rayovac batteries leak. So that's it, I'm switching everything over to rechargeable and when my "normal" batteries are gone I'll just quit wasting my money and buy rechargeable ones.

    Edited to add: was gonna add something useless, but never mind. LOL
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