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    I killed JonBenét Ramsey!

    EXCLUSIVE: 'I killed JonBenét Ramsey!’ Convicted pedophile Gary Oliva has confessed to the murder of six-year-old pageant princess in prison letters to his friend – claiming it was 'an accident'

    Gary Oliva, 54, has long been a suspect in the murder of JonBenét Ramsey, whose body was found at her home in Boulder, Colorado on December 26, 1996
    In letters to high school classmate Michael Vail obtained by DailyMailTV, Oliva claims he killed JonBenét by accident
    'I let her slip and her head bashed in half and I watched her die. It was an accident,' he wrote from Limon Correctional Facility, Colorado
    Oliva is serving a 10-year-sentence for possessing child pornography
    When Oliva was arrested in 2016, police discovered he had 335 photos of JonBenét including photos from the six-year-old's autopsy
    Vail, 55, of Ventura, California, has urged police to charge Oliva for JonBenét's death since Oliva is due for parole in 2020
    Chillingly, Vail tells DailyMailTV that on December 26, 1996 Oliva told him: 'I hurt a little girl'
    Investigators believe several men were involved in JonBenét's death and Vail hopes Oliva will identify them
    The incriminating letters have been presented to Boulder police and murder case investigators are now looking through the new information

    By ALAN BUTTERFIELD FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
    PUBLISHED: 14:25 EST, 10 January 2019 | UPDATED: 15:16 EST, 10 January 2019


    A longtime suspect in the murder of JonBenét Ramsey has finally admitted he killed the then six-year old beauty pageant queen, DailyMailTV can exclusively reveal.

    Gary Oliva, 54, a convicted pedophile who is currently serving a 10-year sentence in a Colorado prison for child pornography, has admitted in letters obtained by DailyMailTV he killed her by accident.

    Oliva, who was once jailed for trying to strangle his mother, wrote: 'I never loved anyone like I did JonBenét and yet I let her slip and her head bashed in half and I watched her die. It was an accident. Please believe me. She was not like the other kids.'

    In another letter, Oliva wrote, 'JonBenét completely changed me and removed all evil from me. Just one look at her beautiful face, her glowing beautiful skin, and her divine God-body, I realized I was wrong to kill other kids. Yet by accident she died and it was my fault.'

    The letters were sent to music publicist Michael Vail, a former high school classmate of Oliva's.

    Vail has suspected Vail's involvement in JonBenét's murder for 22 years but told DailyMailTV he thinks Oliva's written confession is the proof needed to finally get Oliva charged with the crime.

    The incriminating letters from Oliva have now been presented to Boulder police.

    Police spokesperson Laurie Ogden told DailyMailTV, 'The Boulder Police Department is aware of and has investigated Mr. Olivas’ potential involvement in this case.

    'We have passed the additional information you provided onto investigators. We will not comment on any actions or the status of this investigation.'

    Nobody has been charged with JonBenét's death since the six-year-old's lifeless body was discovered by her father John Ramsey in the basement of the family home in Boulder, Colorado on December 26, 1996.

    Detectives believe she was murdered the night before, on Christmas Day, through either a blow to the head or strangulation with a garotte.

    Oliva does not explain in the letters why he was at the Ramsey home that night but investigations have shown he was using an address just ten blocks away at the time JonBenét was murdered.

    Sexual predator Oliva wrote the letters to Vail from his cell in Limon Correctional Facility, Colorado after being arrested in 2016 for possessing child pornography on his phone.

    DailyMailTV has obtained a redacted police report for his 2016 arrest which shows Oliva also had hundreds of photos of JonBenét on his phone when it was seized.

    He is currently due for parole in October 2020.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-accident.html
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    Wonder if all the police / media who ACCUSED HER POOR PARENTS--and even her BROTHER-- of this crime,

    will NOW APOLOGIZE?

    They broke her mother's heart and (I believe) hastened her death, with her having to bear that ON TOP OF the stress of losing her daughter in such an horrific way.

    I'm not holding my breath---leftists NEVER admit they were WRONG.........

    (and by the way, I seem to remember some on HERE were VERY VERY SURE her father killed her----hope those--who know who they are---can also set the record straight----it's never good to judge when you just don't KNOW....)
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    Countrymouse I was going to post, but you pretty much said it all; exactly what I was thinking.
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    I will wait to see where this goes before I make judgement. Let's not forget he is not the 1st person to say he killed Jon Benet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevmoley View Post
    I will wait to see where this goes before I make judgement. Let's not forget he is not the 1st person to say he killed Jon Benet.
    Yeah, but according to the article was both a POLICE SUSPECT (but they didn't have enough evidence) and had previously mentioned this a few YEARS ago--but this is the first time he openly admitted it.
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    I realized I was wrong to kill other kids. Yet by accident she died and it was my fault.'


    So how many others did he murder?

    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    So reading the story it appears that Gary Oliva wrote a couple of letters to his friend confessing to the killing. He apparently hasn't confessed to the police and will probably deny it if charged. I'd have to hear a lot more explanation of how he got into the home, wrote the ransom note, etc. before I'd believe him. I guess that if they have the letters they can compare his handwriting to the ransom note which was shown to be over a 90% match to Patsy Ramsey.

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    Wow, after all these years, the news finally comes out! The Ramsey name was pulled through the mud, for so many years, with accusation for killing their daughter. So sad the truth on who killed JonBenét Ramsey, did not come out, before Patsy's death in 2006! So sad!

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    Oooh, I bet the crowd over at websleuths are just gobsmacked at this point. Not to mention going at one another's throats over this.

    My own take: this is just another "confessing sam" like Carr was back in 2006.

    ETA: Amazing! Only one thread on this over there. I guess the old crowd that would have been taking this to pieces by now have all sloughed off to other places.
    Last edited by minkykat; 01-10-2019 at 04:21 PM. Reason: Just checked websleuths to see
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    fry him...…. we will never know the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    I realized I was wrong to kill other kids. Yet by accident she died and it was my fault.'


    So how many others did he murder?

    I caught that too.

    If anyone knows about, "Statement analysis", this sounds like a confession to other past murders.

    It makes one want to trace his whereabouts and match it up with any missing kids in those areas. V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogizorch View Post
    So reading the story it appears that Gary Oliva wrote a couple of letters to his friend confessing to the killing. He apparently hasn't confessed to the police and will probably deny it if charged. I'd have to hear a lot more explanation of how he got into the home, wrote the ransom note, etc. before I'd believe him. I guess that if they have the letters they can compare his handwriting to the ransom note which was shown to be over a 90% match to Patsy Ramsey.
    He doesn't HAVE to confess it "TO" the police---the fact that he confessed it at all is enough.

    As far as "matching handwriting"----just about ANYBODY's handwriting could be a certain percentage match to ANYONE else's.

    I do not believe those parents killed their own daughter.

    I'm from a town where the man who tried to PREVENT the Olympic bombing was BLAMED FOR IT---tried and convicted by the MSM, the tabloids, and the police who wanted a QUICK(!) solution to make themselves LOOK good.

    Only later did it come out that Richard Jewell was ENTIRELY innocent--but his life was RUINED.

    Like Pat Ramsey, Richard Jewell died young (he was only in his 40's) and his life was VERY likely shortened by the disaster visited upon him by incompetent police, lying media, and the millions of media-believing fools who swallowed those lies whole.

    I think a similar thing happened here.

    I remember how totally incompetent the police were--how they themselves MISSED her body in the basement (sloppy search) and then when her father discovered it (and of COURSE he took her body out of there---if you found YOUR baby lying dead on the dirt in your crawlspace WHAT PARENT COULD just think 'Oh. Gee. I guess I'd better not touch my child because i might contaminate a crime scene." HELL NO! You'd grab your baby, crying and screaming, and get her out of there, hugging her lifeless body to your heart, and be so distraught with grief that all you'd be thinking was to hold your baby and get her off that awful dirt!)---then after she was discovered the police STILL botched the investigation and the search for suspects!

    Like the Richard Jewell case, the police chief investigator was SO SURE it was her PARENTS (after all, they are EEEVIL rich white people---even then, some had that attitude of hate toward the "privileged") that he kept wasting time and wasting time trying to PROVE there was a "there" there, when there was NOT. By the time they finally admitted there WAS no evidence her parents did it, all other trails had gone cold.

    Sort of like the Congressional investigation of "collusion" now--there is NO "there" there--but still the police in the Jon Benet case kept digging like a hound pawing at an old hole in the fence while the rabbit has already escaped two fields away...
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    sounds like someone who just wants to be 'famous' for killing her.

    I have no idea or opinion on who did it. Whoever it was needs to be brought to justice but in this system..... who knows?
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    JonBenet Ramsey's brother settles with CBS in $750 million ...
    A $750 million defamation lawsuit filed against CBS by JonBenet Ramsey's brother has been settled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogizorch View Post
    So reading the story it appears that Gary Oliva wrote a couple of letters to his friend confessing to the killing. He apparently hasn't confessed to the police and will probably deny it if charged. I'd have to hear a lot more explanation of how he got into the home, wrote the ransom note, etc. before I'd believe him. I guess that if they have the letters they can compare his handwriting to the ransom note which was shown to be over a 90% match to Patsy Ramsey.
    I still think the mother did it. Back in the mid 1990's, our society could not accept that a mother was capable of killing her
    own child, and it wasn't until the Andrea Yates thing that people started to really consider the possibility. Accident or not, the
    part that really made me squirm was that I always got the vibe from her father that he knew the truth and chose to defend
    his wife.
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    Didn't the mother write a BS ransom note that she got busted for? They did not think it was enough to charge her for it.

    I took a class in statement analysis many years ago. At the end of the class, the instructor used several statements made by the parents as examples for us to analyze based on methods taught in the class. We were not told that it was this case. She also gave use several other statements made by MANY other suspects who were later convicted and admitted to their crime, and some who were proven to be innocent.

    100% of the class correctly interpreted all of the guilty suspects statements (Showed deception) as well as the innocent ones. 100% of the class believed the Ramseys statements were consistent with deception.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevmoley View Post
    I will wait to see where this goes before I make judgement. Let's not forget he is not the 1st person to say he killed Jon Benet.
    I agree. Where's the DNA? They've got DNA from 50 years ago on some cold cases and sometimes the perp gets caught and sometimes they're still out there. So, let's wait for the hard evidence, anyone can admit to a crime they did not commit.
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    The article also stated that he had pictures of her on his phone when he was arrested in 2016.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardou View Post
    I agree. Where's the DNA? They've got DNA from 50 years ago on some cold cases and sometimes the perp gets caught and sometimes they're still out there. So, let's wait for the hard evidence, anyone can admit to a crime they did not commit.
    Thanks for reminding me about the DNA under Jon Benet's fingernails.. I remember that NONE of it matched ANYONE in her family.
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    There was DNA in her underwear too. Didn't match any of the family. A tiny drop of blood.

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    I know everyone is different but I always found it odd that a six year old girl's bedroom was on the third floor...all alone. When my kids were little, I always wanted their bedroom close to mine so I could hear anything that went on at night. If I'm not mistaken, the parents were on the first floor and the brother on the second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildwood View Post
    I know everyone is different but I always found it odd that a six year old girl's bedroom was on the third floor...all alone. When my kids were little, I always wanted their bedroom close to mine so I could hear anything that went on at night. If I'm not mistaken, the parents were on the first floor and the brother on the second.
    Trumps kid Barron has a floor all to himself. Jon Benet was from a rich family, and so is Barron. It's odd to us because we've never lived like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardou View Post
    Trumps kid Barron has a floor all to himself. Jon Benet was from a rich family, and so is Barron. It's odd to us because we've never lived like that.
    I do believe her room was down the hall from her brother's, they were on the same floor, from what I recall, been a lot of years - I know one of the officers on the scene that morning. And I know 4 of the investigators - 3 worked for Mr. Ramsey. I'll ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevmoley View Post
    I will wait to see where this goes before I make judgement. Let's not forget he is not the 1st person to say he killed Jon Benet.
    Yes, exactly. Thank you. No rushing to judgement here either.

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    https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...der-confession

    BOULDER, Colo. — Police in Boulder appear to be dismissing a man’s alleged confession to JonBenet Ramsey’s murder.

    The DailyMail.Com reported Thursday that Gary Oliva, 54, admitted in letters obtained by the tabloid to killing Ramsey by accident.

    However, the Boulder Police Department released a statement Thursday which appears to refute claims made by the convicted pedophile, who has made similar confessions.

    “The Boulder Police Department is aware of Mr. Oliva and has investigated his potential involvement in this case, including several previous confessions. The department routinely receives information on this investigation. Information provided to the police department is reviewed along with the many tips and theories we receive. There are no new updates in this investigation and the department will not comment further,” the statement reads.

    Oliva was one of the early suspects in the Ramsey case. The convicted sex offender may have been close to the Ramsey home on the night of the murder. When he was arrested on other charges back in 2000, police found a photo of Ramsey in his possession.

    Oliva did admit to having an obsession with the young beauty queen.

    Olive is currently spending time behind bars for a 2016 child porn case. Court documents show Oliva downloaded "22 separate sexually explicit images." All of the photos show children "under ten years of age."

    The beauty pageant star was found dead in the basement of her family's home in Boulder in December 1996. A prosecutor cleared her parents and brother.

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    If there was blood or other DNA evidence it should be relatively easy to check; now contamination of older samples can be a problem (back before it was known how to store things properly).

    But if they don't test him and they don't have a good reason like samples are not viable then I smell a real rat someplace.

    Otherwise, test him and if he's lying (or simply delusional) that should be pretty clear, and if he's guilty charge and try him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinwater View Post
    Didn't the mother write a BS ransom note that she got busted for? They did not think it was enough to charge her for it.

    I took a class in statement analysis many years ago. At the end of the class, the instructor used several statements made by the parents as examples for us to analyze based on methods taught in the class. We were not told that it was this case. She also gave use several other statements made by MANY other suspects who were later convicted and admitted to their crime, and some who were proven to be innocent.

    100% of the class correctly interpreted all of the guilty suspects statements (Showed deception) as well as the innocent ones. 100% of the class believed the Ramseys statements were consistent with deception.


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    Yes. It was written on paper from a pad that she kept next to her bed. And IIRC, the ransom amount was equal to the latest bonus that her
    husband received from the company he worked for.

    There was just something "off" about the woman... of course (IMHO) any mother that dresses her six year old daughter up like a whore
    and parades her around has got a screw loose to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    Wonder if all the police / media who ACCUSED HER POOR PARENTS--and even her BROTHER-- of this crime,

    will NOW APOLOGIZE?

    They broke her mother's heart and (I believe) hastened her death, with her having to bear that ON TOP OF the stress of losing her daughter in such an horrific way.

    I'm not holding my breath---leftists NEVER admit they were WRONG.........

    (and by the way, I seem to remember some on HERE were VERY VERY SURE her father killed her----hope those--who know who they are---can also set the record straight----it's never good to judge when you just don't KNOW....)
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzieq View Post
    Wow, after all these years, the news finally comes out! The Ramsey name was pulled through the mud, for so many years, with accusation for killing their daughter. So sad the truth on who killed JonBenét Ramsey, did not come out, before Patsy's death in 2006! So sad!

    Investigators believe several men were involved in JonBenét's death and Vail hopes Oliva will identify them (from above italicized text on OP). The family is still not out of the ballpark, and I've always believed it was a satanic coven killing. Ritualistic signs were at the crime scene. A red heart I think was drawn on her palm but I've never seen a photo or replica-a heart with a swirl as part of the image is the sign for pedo girl "love".

    The discarded ransom note found in their summer house many states away and for a very specific amount told me someone in the family was involved.

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    any mother that dresses her six year old daughter up like a whore
    and parades her around has got a screw loose to begin with


    Went out with mom earlier this week to a medical appointment, and she and DW decided to stop by wallyworld on the way home. I stayed in the car (handicapped spot out front) to wait, they said they wouldn't be long.

    While I was waiting a little girl came out, and it looked as if she were walking on her tiptoes. I looked closer (across the lane in front of the store) only to discover she as wearing heels - about 3" spike heels. And she was having no difficulty walking on them. Maybe a first grader, if that - a little, little girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    If there was blood or other DNA evidence it should be relatively easy to check; now contamination of older samples can be a problem (back before it was known how to store things properly).

    But if they don't test him and they don't have a good reason like samples are not viable then I smell a real rat someplace.

    Otherwise, test him and if he's lying (or simply delusional) that should be pretty clear, and if he's guilty charge and try him.
    I wondered about that as well. Don't they keep DNA samples basically forever?

    Should be simple to test him to see if it's a match---

    unless they don't want themselves to be embarrassed by the fact that the perp was under their noses all the time and they ignored him because they were so obsessed with their per-conceived opinion that it was the parents.
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    "BOULDER, Colo. — Police in Boulder appear to be dismissing a man’s alleged confession to JonBenet Ramsey’s murder."

    Of course, his confession is false. He is a short eyes pervert probably looking for attention or a deal of some kind.

    My take on the murder:
    Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter, JonBenét. JonBenét was being difficult that night and Patsy slammed her little head down on a kitchen counter, fracturing her skull. Evidence points to a Ramsey coverup. Patsy's life ended with ovarian cancer at 49 years old. Did God speak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steel Chips View Post
    "BOULDER, Colo. — Police in Boulder appear to be dismissing a man’s alleged confession to JonBenet Ramsey’s murder."

    Of course, his confession is false. He is a short eyes pervert probably looking for attention or a deal of some kind.

    My take on the murder:
    Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter, JonBenét. JonBenét was being difficult that night and Patsy slammed her little head down on a kitchen counter, fracturing her skull. Evidence points to a Ramsey coverup. Patsy's life ended with ovarian cancer at 49 years old. Did God speak?
    except none of the DNA under JonBenét's fingernails, where police said she had struggled with and scratched her attacker, matched anyone in her family...
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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