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WAR RUSSIA BLOCKS KERCH STRAIT AND ENGAGES UKRAINIAN NAVY PART THREE 12-22-2018
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  1. #41
    From today's Kiev Post.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...black-sea.html

    Poroshenko signs law doubling zone of Ukrainian control in the Black Sea
    By Interfax-Ukraine.
    Published Dec. 29 at 5:02 pm


    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has signed the law on the adjacent zone of Ukraine, which doubles the zone of Ukrainian control in the Black Sea.

    The law harmonizes the maritime legislation of Ukraine with the legislation of other Black Sea states and other states parties to the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, the presidential press service said on Dec. 29.

    Also, the law is aimed at preventing smuggling and illegal ship visits to the closed ports of the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine.

    “According to the law, the adjacent zone of Ukraine is an open sea area adjacent to the territorial sea of Ukraine and whose outer border is at a distance of no more than 24 nautical miles, measured from the baselines, from which the width of the territorial sea of Ukraine is measured,” it said.

    In its adjacent zone, Ukraine exercises control to prevent violations of customs, fiscal (tax), immigration (migration), sanitary national legislation within the territory of Ukraine, including its internal waters, or territorial sea.

    “The control is exercised by bringing to responsibility for violation of the legislation of Ukraine committed within the territory of Ukraine, including its internal waters or territorial sea,” it said.

    Also, to prevent violations of the legislation of Ukraine or to prosecute for its violation, an authorized agency that ensures the inviolability of the state border and the protection of the sovereign rights of Ukraine in its adjacent and exclusive (maritime) economic zones can stop vessels; inspect them, detain or seize vessels and/or their crew members, excluding warships and other government ships used for non-commercial purposes.

    “Under the law, if a vessel has violated the legislation of Ukraine and is trying to escape, the authorized agency has the right to pursue such a vessel without delay in order to detain and prosecute it in accordance with the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea of 1982. Pursuing ceases as soon as the vessel that is being pursued enters the territorial sea of the state under the flag of which the ship is sailing or of any third country,” it said.

    The law comes into force on the day after its publication

  2. #42
    Some truce................If the Russians are playing this hard during a truce then we can probably count the date of the invasion in days.
    https://www.unian.info/war/10395144-...on-dec-29.html


    "New Year truce": Ukraine reports two enemy attacks in Donbas on Dec 29 22:35, 29 December 2018 War 144 0 No casualties have been reported on the Ukrainian side.
    REUTERS REUTERS Russian-led forces mounted two attacks on Ukrainian troops in Donbas, eastern Ukraine, on the first day of the New Year truce, starting midnight December 29.

    "Ukrainian strongpoints were fired upon from grenade launchers of various types near the village of Zalizne in the Horlivka direction and in the area of Hnutove in the Mariupol direction," the press center of Ukraine's Joint Forces Operation (JFO) said in an update on Facebook as of 18:00 Kyiv time on Saturday. I

    t is noted that to suppress enemy provocations, the defending units returned fire. No Ukrainian army casualties have been reported since the start of the day. The situation in the zone of the Joint Forces Operation remains under control of Ukrainian troops. As UNIAN reported earlier, on December 27, Ukraine's envoy to the Trilateral Contact Group (TCG) at the Minsk talks on Donbas Yevgenij Marchuk said the parties to the armed conflict in the east of Ukraine agreed on an indefinite truce starting midnight December 29. However, the militants opened fire on the first day of the ceasefire.

    Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/war/10395144-...on-dec-29.html

  3. #43
    This story keeps popping up-and the disinfo campaign as mentioned in the story is exactly what happened in the Syrian chemical attacks. Seems more than coincidental.


    Ukraine intel 16:57, 29 December 2018 War 2343 0

    A group of Russian specialists in the field of chemical warfare agents and toxic substances arrived in the occupied Donbas in the middle of December, according to intelligence data.

    UNIAN Representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Vadym Skibitsky says Russia is plotting a terrorist act in the occupied Donbas with the use of toxic substances.
    Read alsoKremlin's persistent claim of “expected chemical attack by Ukraine Armed Forces in Donbas” worrying – MP

    "Ukraine's military intelligence is observing a number of intelligence indicators that clearly show Russia is plotting a terrorist act with the use of chemically hazardous toxic substances, which will further be covered by Russian propagandists as an employment of 'chemical weapons' against residents in the occupied Donbas by the Ukrainian troops.
    Russia's security forces are counting on a significant number of civilian casualties," he told a briefing on December 29. Moreover, the intelligence directorate established that a group of Russian specialists in the field of chemical warfare agents and toxic substances arrived in the occupied Donbas in the middle of December. The enemy also increased readiness of the Russian occupation forces to operate amid chemical contamination.
    The newest individual protective means for personnel of the 1st and 2nd Army Corps of the Russian occupation troops were delivered from Russia in order to test them in combat conditions.
    According to the intelligence official, the occupation authorities are already conducting an influence operation in the occupied territories to convince local residents that Ukraine is plotting a chemical attack on civilians.

    "In order to create public opinion favorable to it, Moscow has been conducting a large-scale information campaign for more than a month on accusing Ukraine of hidden preparation for such actions.
    The Main Intelligence Directorate states that Russia conducted a similar influence operation on the eve of simulation of chemical attack near Aleppo in Syria on November 24 this year to justify further air strikes against Syrian opposition forces," Skibitsky stressed.
    As UNIAN reported earlier, on the first day of the New Year truce, starting midnight December 29, Russia-backed militants opened fire from grenade launchers on the Ukrainian positions near the village of Zalizne in the Horlivka direction.

    Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/war/10394961-...ine-intel.html

  4. #44
    Just announced by the Kiev Post

    The opening shot of the coming war, I'd think. Russia can't go too long without Ukranian wheat-they don't have the foreign reserves to pay for it on the open market.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...m-ukraine.html

    Russia bans agricultural, industrial imports from Ukraine
    By Denys Krasnikov.
    Published Dec. 30. Updated Dec. 30 at 7:29 pm
    Russia will no longer import fruits, wheat, sunflower oil, canned fish, chocolate, confectioneries, bread, juices, wine, and many more products that were either made in Ukraine of transported through it.



    Russia has imposed an embargo on industrial and agricultural products from Ukraine, according to a decree published by the Russian government on Dec. 29.

    The decree bans the import of Ukrainian wheat, sunflower oil, canned fish, chocolate, confectioneries, bread, fruits, juices, wine, alcohol, some types of furniture, turbines, pebbles, and more. The embargo applies both to products made in Ukraine and shipped through the country’s territory.

    In total, there are over 50 different Ukrainian products now forbidden in Russia — roughly 10 percent of Ukraine’s exports to Russia, according to the Russian government.

    However, some Ukrainian products will still be allowed in Russia. Specifically, Moscow will continue to import turbines for commercial planes produced in Ukraine mainly by engineering company Motor Sich.

    According to the Russian government, the embargo was imposed “due to the unfriendly actions of Ukraine” and is supposed to mirror Ukrainian sanctions that were just recently prolonged until 2020 and updated on Dec. 27.

    Россия вводит запрет на импорт ряда украинских товаров. Это – ответная мера на санкционные ограничения со стороны Украины. Подписал соответствующее постановление

    — Дмитрий Медведев (@MedvedevRussia) December 29, 2018

    “Russia imposes a ban on the import of a number of Ukrainian goods. This is a response to sanctions restrictions on the part of Ukraine. I signed the corresponding decree,” Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said on Twitter.

    According to the decree, the Russian government can lift these economic sanctions as soon as Ukraine cancel its own bans on products from Russia.

  5. #45
    Is NATO prepared to help defend Ukraine against the taking of these things? If not, we will see Holodomor II at the beginning of a GSM. This is not good news.
    Don't be dismayed by goodbyes. A farewell is necessary before you can meet again. And meeting again, after moments or lifetimes, is certain for those who are friends. --Richard Bach

  6. #46
    ELINT News Retweeted

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    January 1, first soldier killed in #Ukraine, 2 wounded soldiers (no official sources on the separatist/Russian side), artillery fire in Hnutove, near Marioupol. The Donbass War enters its 6th calendar year

  7. #47
    U.S. may impose new sanctions on Russia, arm Ukraine after Kerch – Ex-ambassador Herbst Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, Director of the Atlantic Council's Eurasia Center John Herbst says the United States may soon impose new sanctions on Russia and arm Ukraine in response to Russian aggression in the Kerch Strait. As the ex-Ambassador said in an interview to Radio Liberty's Ukrainian Service, the reaction of the United States to the seizure of Ukrainian boats with the crews by Russia was weak, but it may soon change. In two to three months, one may see the U.S. supplying weapons to Kyiv and announcing new sanctions against Russia in connection with that aggression, he said. Read also EU's decision to prolong sanctions against Russia enters into force Herbst says that that a much stronger response from the U.S. will be given in next eight to ten, maximum twelve weeks. And, in addition to the sanctions, it will be military assistance to Ukraine, he said. In his words, there are now enough grounds to provide Ukraine with anti-ship missiles, patrol ships, and possibly other military equipment. "Anti-ship missiles would help," he said. According to him, the U.S. has enough Harpoon cruise missiles, based on technologies developed 30 years ago, and this is what the U.S. can already provide. "And, possibly, more modern missiles," Herbst added. Russia captured 24 members of the Ukrainian Navy along with the seizure of their three boats near the Kerch Strait in the Black Sea on November 25, 2018. The Ukrainian sailors are now in detention centers in Moscow.

    Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/politics/1039...or-herbst.html

  8. #48
    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...s-in-2018.html

    Ukraine’s armed forces supplied with over 50 upgraded planes, helicopters in 2018
    By Illia Ponomarenko.
    Published Jan. 2 at 5:02 pm
    A Ukrainian military serviceman walks near a Sukhoi Su-27 fighter at a air base in Ozerne in the Zhytomyr Oblast on Dec. 26, 2018.
    Photo by UkrOboronProm

    Ukraine’s state-run military production giant UkrOboronProm says it provided the country’s Armed Forces with approximately 50 aircraft in 2018, having updated and reinforced the country’s military air fleet with modernized and repaired planes and helicopters.

    The aircraft overhauled over the past year included Sukhoi Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters, Sukhoi Su-25 close air support jets, and Sukhoi Su-24 attack aircraft, An-26 and Il-76 airlifts, L-39 jet trainers, along with Mi-24, Mi-14, and Mi-8 helicopters, UkrOboronProm’s press service reported on Jan. 2.

    In particular, a number of MiG-29 fighters were modernized to the MiG-29MU1 version at the Lviv State Aircraft Repair Plant.

    “These planes have been equipped with a high power radar that increases the effective range of detection of airborne targets, and also with a satellite navigation system integrated into the on-board communications complex,” the concern said.

    “Besides, the capabilities for controlling and monitoring the technical health of the aircraft, its engine and a number of on-board systems were also greatly improved. These planes are (now) capable of performing joint missions with NATO nations forces.”

    In general, the concern added, the Ukrainian Air Forces had received “approximately half a dozen” modernized MiG-29s, and more such aircraft would be supplied in 2019.

    Besides, the Aviakon factory, based in the city of Konotop in Sumy Oblast some 200 kilometers northeast of Kyiv, supplied “over 15” upgraded military helicopters, such the famous Mi-24 attack helicopters and Mi-8MTP medium helicopters equipped for radio-electronic warfare.

    “The dedicated equipment of this helicopters jam ground-based radar targeting detectors, enabling them to “bedazzle” and confuse the enemy,” the concern said.

    At least five repaired and modernized L-39 trainer jets were also supplied to the Air Forces last year.

    The Soviet-produced Sukhoi family of planes, still the workhorses of Ukraine’s air force, were also upgraded in 2018. Several Su-27 fighters were modernized into the Su-27-1M version, featuring a new radar that has a 30 percent greater air target detection range, and also new navigation, control, and monitoring systems.

    The old Su-25 close air support jet, modernized into the Su-25M1K version and also supplied to the air force, features new, Ukrainian-produced digital aiming scopes instead of the older analog device, new radio stations, and the new Adros anti-jamming system.

    A Ukraine’s Air Forces L-39 trainer jets demonstrated at the Ozerne airfield in the Zhytomyr Oblast on Dec. 26, 2018. (UkrOboronProm)

    “This complex multiplies the plane’s protection against infrared-guided missiles by dazzling their target-seeking devices and releasing special flares,” UkrOboronProm said.

    Earlier, on Dec. 19, the concern also reported that it had repaired and modernized over 1,000 armored vehicles, both heavy tanks, and light armor, for the Armed Forces in 2018.

    Over 650 such vehicles were repaired in 2018 by UkrOboronProm’s mobile teams in the field, including the war zone in the east of Ukraine, which saved time on transporting broken-down hardware to factories.

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    For links see article source.....
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    https://www.rferl.org/a/soldier-kill.../29687740.html

    Ukraine

    Soldier Killed, Two Wounded In Eastern Ukraine Clashes, Despite Truce

    January 02, 2019 08:40 GMT
    By RFE/RL

    Ukraine says one of its soldiers has been killed and two others wounded in clashes in the country’s east despite a fresh cease-fire agreement between Kyiv and Russia-backed separatists.

    The Defense Ministry said on January 2 that separatist fighters violated a cease-fire three times on January 1 by firing guns, grenade launchers, and mortars.

    It said Ukrainian government forces returned fire, killing one separatist and wounding four others.

    The separatists accused Kyiv’s forces of violating the truce.

    Since April 2014, more than 10,300 people have been killed in fighting between Ukrainian government forces and the separatists who control parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

    Fighting persists despite cease-fire deals reached as part of the September 2014 and February 2015 Minsk accords, and implementation of other measures set out in the deals has been slow.

    A new truce between Ukrainian forces and the separatists took effect at midnight on December 29.

    With reporting by Interfax and TASS

  10. #50
    EndGameWW3
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    US Navy landing ship heading to Black Sea to ‘advance security and stability in Europe’ — RT World News

    US Navy landing ship heading to Black Sea to ‘advance security and stability in Europe’ — RT World...
    rt.com
    1:04 PM · Jan 6, 2019 · https://t.co/lDlboPP3d8?amp=1

  11. #51
    Here is a little more on Danielboon's posting.

    22MEF is onboard this ship-that's 500 marines and relatively lightweight firepower. But it's still 500 marines.........


    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...-partners.html


    US Navy warship to enter Black Sea to support ‘allies and partners’
    By Illia Ponomarenko.
    Published Jan. 6 at 5:02 pm
    USS Fort McHenry, a 16,261-ton Whidbey Island-class dock landing ship, was launched on Feb. 1, 1986, and has Mayport, Florida, as its homeport.


    The United States Sixth Fleet’s dock landing ship USS Fort McHenry, along with members of the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, launched its voyage to the Black Sea through the Dardanelles Strait, the U.S. Naval Forces Europe/Africa reported on Jan. 6.

    “USS Fort McHenry’s transit… reaffirms our collective resolve to Black Sea security and enhances our strong relationships with our NATO allies and partners in the region,” said Vice Adm. Lisa Franchetti, commander of the U.S. Sixth Fleet.

    “Our routine operations in the Black Sea also demonstrate the inherent flexibility and capability of U.S. 6th Fleet naval forces.”

    #USSFortMcHenry (LSD 43) & embarked elements of the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), has begun its north-bound transit of the Dardanelles Strait, en route to the Black Sea #US6thFleet #Power4Peace pic.twitter.com/jTqF64i8e1

    — U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. 6th Fleet (@USNavyEurope) 6 January 2019

    USS Fort McHenry, a 16,261-ton Whidbey Island-class dock landing ship, was launched on Feb. 1, 1986, and has Mayport, Florida, as its homeport. It can carry up to nearly 500 Marines aboard and is also equipped with a helicopter launch pad.

    Meanwhile, the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit which is, according to the report, attached to the craft, is one of seven expeditionary units in the U.S. Marine Corps and the most decorated one among them all.

    Based in Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, the force has a strength of nearly 2,220 personnel.

    The Ukrainian Naval Forces were unavailable for comment on whether they expect to welcome the American vessel at the Ukrainian shore soon.

    This is the first deployment of a considerable U.S. naval force to go through the Dardanelles Strait following Russia’s Nov. 25 direct attack against three Ukrainian navy vessels navigating the Black Sea en route to the Azov Sea through the Kerch Strait.

    All 24 Ukrainian crewmembers, with at least 3 sailors wounded, were captured and imprisoned by a Russian special task team.

    The attack followed nearly five years of proxy land war in the Donbas and several months of growing tensions in the Azov Sea increasingly monopolized by Russia in 2018, prompted Ukraine to declare an unprecedented, though very limited, state of martial law in 10 border regions through Dec. 26.

    Also, following the attack, the Ukrainian leadership called upon the U.S. and NATO allies to increase their military presence in the contested sea and therefore deter Russia’s intensifying aggression.

    British Royal Navy’s hydrographic survey ship HMS Echo, which was stationed at the Ukrainian southern port of Odesa on Dec. 19 through Dec. 22, became the first NATO vessel to visit Ukrainian waters following the Nov. 25 attack.

    HMS Echo was expected to be shortly replaced by its sister ship, HMS Enterprise.

    In general, as Ukraine’s chief of naval staff Vice Admiral Andriy Tarasov told the Kyiv Post in Odesa on Dec. 21 upon the departure of HMS Echo, NATO naval forces would be making such visits more frequently in the nearest future.

    On Dec. 5, CNN news reported that the U.S. Navy was preparing to send a warship to the Black Sea amid growing confrontation between Ukraine and Russia in the aquatic area.

    The American Sixth Fleet stationed in Naples, Italy, also added that the U.S. Navy routinely conducts operations in the region and that all its activities were fully “consistent with international law, including the Montreux Convention” of 1936 on a special regime of navigation in the Dardanelles and the Black Sea.

    Among the American warships engaged in mission in the region in 2018 were guided-missile destroyers USS Ross, USS Carney, and USS Porter, command and control ship USS Mount Whitney, dock landing ship USS Oak Hill with embarked elements of the 26th Marine Expeditionary unit, expeditionary fast transport USNS Carson City, the fleet said in its statement.

  12. #52
    And again, Russian forces conduct agitprop operations using the Ukranian nationalist movement as cover...........

    If the Russians are starting this up again (and on Jan.6th no less-today is Orthodox Christianity's Christmas day) then we can expect military movement taking place behind the scenes.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...n-the-law.html

    Right Sector denies possible violence against church members, pledges to act within the law
    By Oleksiy Sorokin.
    Published Jan. 6. Updated Jan. 6 at 5:40 pm
    Ukrainian activists from Svoboda and Right Sector political parties carry torches as they march to mark the 110th anniversary of Stepan Bandera birthday in Kyiv, on Jan. 1. The newly established Orthodox Church of Ukraine fears that Russia may attack churches, blaming Ukraine’s nationalist organizations for the attacks.

    The Orthodox Church of Ukraine issued a statement on Jan. 6, through Facebook, citing the possibility of aggressive behavior against Russian churches in Ukraine by pro-Russian forces using the name of Ukrainian nationalist organizations to spark a religious confrontation.

    According to church authorities, chaplains from all over the country cite a growing number of provocations against the Moscow-backed Ukrainian Orthodox Church from activists using the name of Right Sector, a Ukrainian nationalist organization.

    “The organizers of these provocations call for the use of force against the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine and their followers. The provocations should take place on cameras to create a media image of the “persecution” and a “religious war” in Ukraine, which are constantly brought up by Kremlin media,” the Ukrainian church said in a Facebook post.

    On the same day, the Right Sector issued a statement on their official website denying any involvement in attacks on churches and pledged to act within the law, stating that their name might be used by pro-Russian forces to generate violence for Russian state media.

    A number of high-rankinig Ukrainian officials in the past week stated that Russia might provoke religious violence in Ukraine to promote its own agenda.

    Pavlo Klimkin, Ukraine’s minister of foreign affairs, while answering questions by the media on Jan. 5 from Istanbul – where the newly established Orthodox Church of Ukraine received independence on Jan. 6 – said that provocations will take place to depict the newly established Ukrainian church in a bad light. “Most certainly and I’m not saying this simply to increase tension,” Klimkin said, according to Gordonua news agency.

    The statement was supported by Stepan Poltorak, Ukraine’s defense minister. As part of the same delegation, Poltorak said that he is aware of possible staged conflicts.

    “Over the past years Russia has been provoking and conducting aggression against Ukraine. Recently its activity against Ukraine has increased significantly, and of course, we are receiving information about the possibility of provocations by the Russian Federation, but we are tracking and responding accordingly,” said Poltorak, according to Gordonua.

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    NEVER REINFORCE FAILURE, ALFAMAN, DANIEL AND HOUSECARL.

    The deployment of a 500 man Marine force is F%%^^^INSANE. RUSSIA HAS OVER 100,000 TROOPS WITHIN TEN MILES OF THE CRIMEA.

    Yep, the neo cons want their war and they are willing to kill 500 US Marines to get one.

    Between the government shut down, the looming chaos with food stamps, Turkeys looming massacre of the Kurds, aka 1915 Armenian Genocide, and now the warmongers throwing out 500 US Marines as bait, things look real bad for 2019. The 22nd MEU is like some chum thrown out of the boat to attract the sharks.
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    Liveuamap‏Verified account @Liveuamap · 12h12 hours ago

    USSFortMcHenry (LSD 43) and embarked elements of the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), has begun its north-bound transit of the Dardanelles Strait, en route to the Black Sea
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    Damn, these neo con warmongers! Didn't they see what happened during the Falklands campaign, back in 1982 when that Argentinian airplane hit the troopship with those Exocet missiles? Two missiles and that ship is on the bottom, with everybody DOA and crab bait.
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    U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. 6th Fleet‏Verified account @USNavyEurope · 10h10 hours ago

    #USSFortMcHenry’s transit into the #BlackSea reaffirms our collective resolve to Black Sea security & enhances our strong relationships with our @NATO allies & partners in the region. - VADM Franchetti, commander, #US6thFleet #Power4Peace

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    NEVER REINFORCE FAILURE, ALFAMAN, DANIEL AND HOUSECARL.

    The deployment of a 500 man Marine force is F%%^^^INSANE. RUSSIA HAS OVER 100,000 TROOPS WITHIN TEN MILES OF THE CRIMEA.

    Yep, the neo cons want their war and they are willing to kill 500 US Marines to get one.

    Between the government shut down, the looming chaos with food stamps, Turkeys looming massacre of the Kurds, aka 1915 Armenian Genocide, and now the warmongers throwing out 500 US Marines as bait, things look real bad for 2019. The 22nd MEU is like some chum thrown out of the boat to attract the sharks.
    Wag the dog buddy

  18. #58
    I don't think this deployment is about reinforcing failure.

    I do believe 500 deployed marines would make a good sized port protection force. With our ship in the sea of Azov, the HMS Enterprise from Britain to be the next one to sail to the sea of Azov, etc wash rinse repeat. Kerch would be a much safer place with them around. The international ships coming into and operating around the Black sea and sea of Azov are guaranteed by the Montreux convention anyway.

    Deploying those marines to protect Kerch or Odessa for that matter; if this is the endgame is essentially a proxy invocation of NATO article 4 if you think about it. Plus it puts a nice little group of American force projection capability on the ground when the Ukranian presidential election takes place on 31 March. We're rotating units in and out of Poland, why not Ukraine?
    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    NEVER REINFORCE FAILURE, ALFAMAN, DANIEL AND HOUSECARL.

    The deployment of a 500 man Marine force is F%%^^^INSANE. RUSSIA HAS OVER 100,000 TROOPS WITHIN TEN MILES OF THE CRIMEA.

    Yep, the neo cons want their war and they are willing to kill 500 US Marines to get one.

    Between the government shut down, the looming chaos with food stamps, Turkeys looming massacre of the Kurds, aka 1915 Armenian Genocide, and now the warmongers throwing out 500 US Marines as bait, things look real bad for 2019. The 22nd MEU is like some chum thrown out of the boat to attract the sharks.

  19. #59
    Which ship? The Atlantic Conveyor or the HMS Sheffield?
    The Sheffield was aluminum hulled-that Exocet cut through the hull like butter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    Damn, these neo con warmongers! Didn't they see what happened during the Falklands campaign, back in 1982 when that Argentinian airplane hit the troopship with those Exocet missiles? Two missiles and that ship is on the bottom, with everybody DOA and crab bait.

  20. #60
    Here is an article about one of Ukraine's IT pioneers dying today. While it may seem an oddball article to post in this thread; read it. And see who this gentleman's business partner is. That I found to be very interesting.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/business/to...pist-dies.html

    Torben Majgaard, 48, pioneer in Ukraine’s IT sector and philanthropist, dies
    By Brian Bonner.
    Published Jan. 6. Updated Jan. 6 at 9:19 pm
    Majgaard died on Jan. 3 at the age of 48 in Marbella, Spain.


    After coming to Ukraine in 1998, Danish native Torben Majgaard quickly went from selling second-hand computers in this 20s to creating Ciklum, one of the nation’s five largest information technology outsourcing companies, in 2002.

    His success as a gregarious salesman and entrepreneur inspired countless people and made him a multimillionaire. He gave generously to many causes, studied history and liked to help his friends and make them happy.

    But he suffered from alcoholism and died on Jan. 3 in a hospital in Marbella, Spain, at the age of 48 from cirrhosis of the liver.

    At the end, his longtime friend, Karl Robb, stood vigil at his hospital bedside to witness an unconscious Majgaard’s last hours of life. Majgaard’s mother and sister also made the trip to Spain from Denmark and were at his bedside when he died. The next day, Robb went to the crematorium at Marbella’s San Bernabe Cemetery to collect his ashes.

    His wife, Tanya, the Ukrainian mother of his three children — ages 3 to 11 – also came from Ukraine, but didn’t arrive before his death. She remains in Spain and will return to Kyiv with an urn carrying his ashes when she has the necessary legal documents.

    A memorial service is planned in Kyiv on Jan. 19, but the location has not yet been set yet, according to another close friend, fellow Dane Nicolai Kollner, who lives in Kyiv.

    “It is depressing,” Robb, a retired executive of EPAM, one of Ciklum’s IT competitors, told the Kyiv Post in a telephone interview on Jan. 6, as he pondered the lessons of Majgaard’s life.

    “Be ambitious. Take risks. Try to control your dark side. Don’t lie to yourself,” Robb said. “He was a guy who took risks and became successful. He created a globally successful company on his own in a very competitive industry. He built an organization that attracted world-class customers and provided employment opportunities for 2,500-3,000 people.”

    And, despite his untimely death, Majgaard “still lived more than the vast majority of people ever do,” Robb said. “Torben was an optimist and cerebral investor. He invested in many failed ventures but was still willing to invest sizeable sums in the dreams of other aspiring entrepreneurs. His failures never discouraged him from trying again. That attitude led him to found Ciklum and his immense success in creating an industry giant that’s a credit to him and to Ukraine.”

    Not only did he leave Ciklum with a great future, “his children will be set for life,” Robb said. At the time of his death, Majgaard owned half of Ciklum with the billionaire philanthropist George Soros owning the other half, he said.

    Hard talk on health

    Even though their friendship went back almost two decades, Robb and Majgaard had a falling out about 10 months ago, the last time that Robb talked to him. Robb decided to break off ties until Majgaard changed his lifestyle and got healthy again. “I had this conversation with him for the last four years: a serious conversation about his health six or seven times, face to face.” Robb and his wife invited Majgaard to stay with them in Spain. Not only did Majgaard refuse, “he denied the problem existed.”

    Kollner, the Danish friend who met Majgaard on his first day in Ukraine in 2005, never broke off ties as Robb did. But he witnessed the same issues, dating from 2013. “It was terrible, terrible to watch,” he said. “He didn’t want to realize how much trouble he was in and what he was doing to himself. He even denied the obvious.”

    It’s all the more tragic because “he created this amazing company,” Kollner said. “He made this community of colleagues and we would have gatherings in Kyiv, with him always in the center. He was a great guy to be with. He brought a lot of people together, a lot of people who wouldn’t be here without him.”

    History buff

    In 2013, Kollner and three other Danish friends accompanied Majgaard to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, for the 150th-anniversary commemorations of the key U.S. Civil War battle. “We joined the 21st Georgia Infantry Company and lived like a Confederate soldier for five days.”

    Majgaard “was a total history buff,” who loved to watch the History Channel and read about everything, whether it was Roman, Viking or World War II history, Kollner said.

    In a 2017 interview with the Kyiv Post, Majgaard boasted about his vast historical knowledge: “I’m always ready to challenge people on their own history, no matter from which country they came.”

    Ciklum’s statement

    Ciklum’s statement about Majgaard’s death summarized his career this way:

    “Torben founded Ciklum in 2002, opening Ciklum’s first development center in Kyiv, Ukraine. Under his leadership Ciklum grew to become a global digital solutions company for Fortune 500 and fast-growing organizations, bringing together 3,500+ developers across the globe, with software development centers and branch offices in the United Kingdom, United States, Spain, Switzerland, Denmark, Israel, Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, and Pakistan. Torben was committed to our clients, employees, and communities. And we will honor his legacy by dedicating ourselves to continuing the work he started, focusing on customers, delivering leading-edge solutions and bringing amazing ideas to life.”

    Philanthropic investor

    Besides Ciklum, Majgaard also was a founder of the BrainBasket Foundation to spread IT education across Ukraine.

    Majgaard backed the Ukrainian Venture Capital and Private Equity Association, chaired by his friend, Andrey Kolodyuk, who wrote in a Facebook post after Majgaard’s death: “He was a great believer in Ukraine. We all should admire and respect him for this.”

    Ciklum was also a driving force and financial backer of the first Ukraine Davos House in 2018, which took place on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Switzerland, with the aim of promoting investment opportunities in Ukraine.

    Ciklum has also donated since 2015 to the Kyiv Post’s IT fellowship, enabling the newspaper to hire a full-time beat reporter, currently Denys Krasnikov, to cover the sector.

    Majgaard was also a featured speaker at two of the seven annual Kyiv Post Tiger Conferences. At the first event in 2012, he also sponsored a VIP reception for then-Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili, who gave the keynote address with then-Economy Minister Petro Poroshenko at the inaugural conference. He also spoke at the 2016 event and, in 2017, he presented a Top 30 Under 30 Award to Daria Leshchenko, CEO of SupportYourApp.



    ‘A great leader’

    He spent his last years traveling widely between Ukraine, England, Spain, the United States, his native Denmark and other countries, working on new ventures.

    “He loved Spain because he loved the sun,” Marina Vyshegorodskikh, who worked as a senior manager of Ciklum for 12 years, said of the country where he died. “He always wanted to be in the sun.”

    Vyshegorodskikh called him ” a great leader with his own, unique vision and principles. He was a person for whom there was nothing impossible; a human with a huge heart, endless energy and endless trust in people…I feel blessed to have this chance in life.”

    She worked with Majgaard from 2005 to 2017, when Majgaard moved from CEO to executive chairman. Since August 2017, Michael Boustridge has been Ciklum’s CEO and president.

    “It was impossible not to follow him,” she said of Majgaard’s leadership. “I think he wanted to be remembered as a man of principles — trust, respect and leading by example.”

    Ciklum founder Torben Majgaard speaks at the Reality Check panel during the Kyiv Post’s Tiger Conference on Nov. 29, 2016. Majgaard said Ukraine was unlikely to drastically change “in our lifetime.” (Sergey Korovayny)

    Kyiv Post interviews

    In two interviews with the Kyiv Post, one published on Jan. 24, 2013, and a second one published on Dec. 22, 2017, Majgaard shared his business philosophy, including his tip for succeeding in Ukraine: “Don’t take ‘no’ for an answer.”

    At the time, in 2013, Majgaard owned 80 percent of Ciklum with Horizon Capital, a private equity fund manager, holding the other 20 percent. In 2015, George Soros bought an equity stake in the company with more than 2,500 employees, six offices in Ukraine, and 13 offices abroad.

    In Kyiv, Ciklum operates from two business centers — Horizon Park and Gulliver. It announced revenues of $100 million in 2012, but has since stopped publicly disclosing financial information.

    When Majgaard came to Ukraine in 1998 to sell second-hand computers, “I fell a little bit in love with things over here,” he told the Kyiv Post from his 19th-floor office at Horizon Park. “It was a world you could influence and change, especially for a kid in his early 20s, coming from overregulated Denmark.”

    But by 2001, Ukraine’s legendary corruption forced him to change course. “I was getting tired of the people who demanded bribes to allow my chain to continue operating as usual.” He sold his business for $10,000 and bought a Kyiv apartment, converting from hardware to software sales with Ciklum’s 2002 start.

    The success of Ciklum, he said, is that “our customers don’t see us as a quick fix. They see us as a long-term partner.” Denis Tafintsev, then with Horizon Capital, said the investment firm bought a 20 percent stake in Ciklum because “it’s got a unique business model and a strong management team and will continue to grow quicker than the market itself. Torben is a very energetic and exciting entrepreneur.”

    Even before starting the BrainBasket Foundation in 2014, Majgaard was thinking about ways to improve IT education in Ukraine. “In reality, the schools are of poor quality,” he said. “The universities are not that good and need to have a closer connection with industry needs.”

    He was also not happy with the business climate a year before the EuroMaidan Revolution toppled Kremlin-backed President Viktor Yanukovych.

    “I really haven’t seen things improve a lot, unfortunately,” Majgaard said. “I’m also not fantastically optimistic about how things are going to improve in the near future.”

    His views hadn’t changed much in the 2017 interview when he blamed Ukrainian politicians and their oligarch backers for stifling Ukraine’s development with corrupt and uncompetitive practices.

    Torben Majgaard (far right), the founder of Ciklum IT company, participates in 150th anniversary commemorations of the Battle of Gettysburg, a key U.S. Civil War event, in 2014 in Pennyslvania. (Courtesy Torben Majgaard’s Facebook profile)

    Big faith in IT

    But he never lost his faith in the IT sector, which he saw as the key to economic growth and modernization in Ukraine. The sector accounts for at least 3 percent of Ukraine’s $120 billion annual gross domestic product, a share that is expected to increase rapidly.

    “No matter what happens around, IT is free,” Majgaard told the Kyiv Post. “All you need is an office, connection to the internet, ability to code and here we go — you’ve got an IT company that can do business internationally. There’s nothing to hold this industry back — no barriers, except people’s own brains.”

    As someone who came from Denmark, one of the world’s least corrupt countries, to Ukraine, one of the more corrupt ones, he also believed that going digital was the key to solving the problem. “Bribing is not possible if the government institutions and their services become electronic,” he said.

    But he also counseled patience.

    “Ukraine’s a large country with a long history. You don’t turn around a country like that in a year or two. Reforms do happen, but I understand people who say they’re happening too slow.”

  21. #61
    Poland, Ukraine to develop new medium-range air defense system Polish company WB Electronics and Ukraine’s state-owned defense industrial group, UkrOboronProm planning to jointly develop a new medium-range air defense system, according to a WB Electronics representative Roman Mushal.

    During a scientific and practical conference on the problems of Polish air defense, Roman Mushal said that Polish private defense company WB Electronics intends to jointly with Ukraine implement a project to develop a mobile, medium-range surface-to-air guided missile system.

    According to him, at the heart of the project should be the advanced version of the Ukrainian-made R-27 air-to-air guided missile. R. Mushal noted that most of the necessary elements have already been created – the engine, fuel, homing heads (active, passive and thermal imaging).

    He stated that the time required for the deployment of production in Poland is approximately three years.

    The new medium-range missile system will be used to protect the important buildings, objects as well as ground troops against all types of aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles, guided weapons, air-to-surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, anti-radar rockets and large-calibre rockets.

    The new air defense system will have a range of up to about 30 km for a missile with infrared homing (WICHER-ET), 25 km for a version with active-radar homing (WICHER-EA) and almost 110 km for passive radar version (WICHER PEP).

    The new medium-range air defense system will have a vertical launching system.

    The air defense system also could be mounted on a locally produced Jelcz 662D truck. The total mass of the chassis (maximum load) is 14,000 kg (11,000 kg).https://defence-blog.com/army/poland...se-system.html

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    Hmm, a drunken fool from Denmark is the best you can do, Alfaman. Seriously? Napoleon said to "never interfere with an enemy when he is making a mistake." So, we got here a DEFACTO IMPLEMENTATION OF NATO CLAUSE FOUR, EXCEPT IT REALLY ISN'T. And Russia is looking at this BS and just sitting back and watching the NATO MORONS wave the red cape in front of the Russian bear.

    At any rate, both the USA and NATO are second and third rate conventional military powers, going head to head with the new first rate military power Russia. What could possibly go wrong with the Russian black fleet facing about four, lame ass NATO ships, that barely could cruise to the Black Sea. and where is Britain, or NATO going to get the back up for these bait ships.

    And sorry gang, but a 500 Marine MEU is about two missiles and 15 minutes away from crab food status.

    It was the Sheffield I was thinking about, Alfaman. I saw the British all standing around and saying Argentina couldn't hurt them at all, just like today with Russia, and those two Air Force planes came out of nowhere, launched several French Exocet air to ship missiles, and turned those ships into burning death pyres.

    The black sea is a Russian lake, and the Sea of Azov is a Russian bathtub. Remember that when the pathetic military force the globalists have now deployed into the black sea gets sunk in one half hour.

    PUTIN WILL NEVER ALLOW THE US MARINE MEU TO DEPLOY INTO THE SEA OF AZOV AND THREATEN RUSSIA'S BLACK SEA FLEET AND THE CRIMEA.

    They are called neo con warmongers now, but back in my military days, circa 1974, we called them CHICKENHAWKS, because none of them ever went to Vietnam. Bolton is going to get a lot of people killed.
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  23. #63
    Now this is interesting-using the AA-10 Alamo air to air missile as an air defense system. VERY interesting-much like our old Chaparral SAM system. The Alamo comes in a few flavors too-IR seeking, passive radar and active radar homing. Could make a nice layered three tier SAM defense system. And the Yemenis have already tried out the concept of using these missiles as SAMs . The missile is in production already, so it would be a quickly assembled system.

    And the truck is already in production-it's a nice 6x6 truck with 4 wheel drive and an IVECO diesel engine. And it's air transportable-it will fit in a C-130 or AN-12.




    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    Poland, Ukraine to develop new medium-range air defense system Polish company WB Electronics and Ukraine’s state-owned defense industrial group, UkrOboronProm planning to jointly develop a new medium-range air defense system, according to a WB Electronics representative Roman Mushal.

    During a scientific and practical conference on the problems of Polish air defense, Roman Mushal said that Polish private defense company WB Electronics intends to jointly with Ukraine implement a project to develop a mobile, medium-range surface-to-air guided missile system.

    According to him, at the heart of the project should be the advanced version of the Ukrainian-made R-27 air-to-air guided missile. R. Mushal noted that most of the necessary elements have already been created – the engine, fuel, homing heads (active, passive and thermal imaging).

    He stated that the time required for the deployment of production in Poland is approximately three years.

    The new medium-range missile system will be used to protect the important buildings, objects as well as ground troops against all types of aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles, guided weapons, air-to-surface missiles, anti-ship missiles, anti-radar rockets and large-calibre rockets.

    The new air defense system will have a range of up to about 30 km for a missile with infrared homing (WICHER-ET), 25 km for a version with active-radar homing (WICHER-EA) and almost 110 km for passive radar version (WICHER PEP).

    The new medium-range air defense system will have a vertical launching system.

    The air defense system also could be mounted on a locally produced Jelcz 662D truck. The total mass of the chassis (maximum load) is 14,000 kg (11,000 kg).https://defence-blog.com/army/poland...se-system.html

  24. #64
    "Hmm, a drunken fool from Denmark is the best you can do, Alfaman. Seriously?"

    Um,, huh?????? I don't follow your reasoning.

    But I am glad you picked up on the proxy Article 4-that is most likely what we're seeing here. Plus troops on the ground at the time of the presidential elections won't hurt either.

    Putin has no choice but to allow the ship into the sea of Azov with those marines aboard-the last thing Vlad needs is a public display of Russian troops denying passage in direct violation of the Montreaux convention. Putin's PR people aren't doing a great job now; no amount of spin could change hearts and minds if he stopped the ship. In addition, the optics of Russian forces head to head with American troops would have most of the world running for cover anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    Hmm, a drunken fool from Denmark is the best you can do, Alfaman. Seriously? Napoleon said to "never interfere with an enemy when he is making a mistake." So, we got here a DEFACTO IMPLEMENTATION OF NATO CLAUSE FOUR, EXCEPT IT REALLY ISN'T. And Russia is looking at this BS and just sitting back and watching the NATO MORONS wave the red cape in front of the Russian bear.

    At any rate, both the USA and NATO are second and third rate conventional military powers, going head to head with the new first rate military power Russia. What could possibly go wrong with the Russian black fleet facing about four, lame ass NATO ships, that barely could cruise to the Black Sea. and where is Britain, or NATO going to get the back up for these bait ships.

    And sorry gang, but a 500 Marine MEU is about two missiles and 15 minutes away from crab food status.

    It was the Sheffield I was thinking about, Alfaman. I saw the British all standing around and saying Argentina couldn't hurt them at all, just like today with Russia, and those two Air Force planes came out of nowhere, launched several French Exocet air to ship missiles, and turned those ships into burning death pyres.

    The black sea is a Russian lake, and the Sea of Azov is a Russian bathtub. Remember that when the pathetic military force the globalists have now deployed into the black sea gets sunk in one half hour.

    PUTIN WILL NEVER ALLOW THE US MARINE MEU TO DEPLOY INTO THE SEA OF AZOV AND THREATEN RUSSIA'S BLACK SEA FLEET AND THE CRIMEA.

    They are called neo con warmongers now, but back in my military days, circa 1974, we called them CHICKENHAWKS, because none of them ever went to Vietnam. Bolton is going to get a lot of people killed.

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    Um, I will repeat myself yet again. Russia/Putin will not allow active duty US Marines, ie MEU group, to sail into the Sea of Azov and directly threaten the Crimea and the BLACK SEA FLEET. It will not be allowed to happen. It would be the same thing as a Russian Spenaz regiment sailing up the Cheasapeake Bay and doing exercises off of Norfolk.

    Sheesh, when I say bait the bear, I mean literally bait the freaking bear. For those of you who don't understand that, go see the movie Revenant, the one where Dicaprio gets mauled by a Grizzly.

    Putin ain't Yeltsin. He knows the warmongers want to kill him, so he is likely to strike first and leave the corpses stacked high. I think only Daniel gets how close to disaster we are in the Ukrianed with Porky the moron.
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  26. #66
    Doug, there ARE Russian vessels off Norfolk as we speak.

    And if Putin moves against any ship from any country in the sea of Azov again, the man will be hung in the court of world opinion. If he does a knee jerk and shoots up a ship then Putin has lost his country and his presidency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    Um, I will repeat myself yet again. Russia/Putin will not allow active duty US Marines, ie MEU group, to sail into the Sea of Azov and directly threaten the Crimea and the BLACK SEA FLEET. It will not be allowed to happen. It would be the same thing as a Russian Spenaz regiment sailing up the Cheasapeake Bay and doing exercises off of Norfolk.

    Sheesh, when I say bait the bear, I mean literally bait the freaking bear. For those of you who don't understand that, go see the movie Revenant, the one where Dicaprio gets mauled by a Grizzly.

    Putin ain't Yeltsin. He knows the warmongers want to kill him, so he is likely to strike first and leave the corpses stacked high. I think only Daniel gets how close to disaster we are in the Ukrianed with Porky the moron.

  27. #67
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    This morning, the large landing ship "Caesar Kunikov" of Russia's Black Sea Fleet returned to the Main Base - Sevastopol
    hmmmm

  28. #68


    That's a LST with RO RO capabilities..........Uh oh. Interesting that the capabilities almost mirror the capabilities of our ship that just went into the sea of Azov.

    The Readers Digest condensed version, per Wikipedia....

    Russian ship Caesar Kunikov (BDK-64)
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    Caesar Kunikov in the Red Sea, 2003
    History
    Russia
    Name: Caesar Kunikov
    Namesake: Caesar Lvovich Kunikov
    Builder: Stocznia Północna, Gdańsk, Poland[1]
    Commissioned: 30 October 1986[1]
    Homeport: Sevastopol
    Status: in active service, as of 2012
    General characteristics [1]
    Class and type: Ropucha-class landing ship
    Displacement:

    2,768 long tons (2,812 t) standard
    4,012 long tons (4,076 t) full load

    Length: 112.5 m (369 ft 1 in)
    Beam: 15.01 m (49 ft 3 in)
    Draught: 4.26 m (14 ft 0 in)
    Ramps: Over bows and at stern
    Installed power: 3 × 750 kW (1,006 hp) diesel generators
    Propulsion: 2 × 9,600 hp (7,159 kW) Zgoda-Sulzer 16ZVB40/48 diesel engines
    Speed: 17.59 knots (32.58 km/h; 20.24 mph)
    Range:

    6,000 nmi (11,000 km; 6,900 mi) at 12 knots (22 km/h; 14 mph)
    3,500 nmi (6,500 km; 4,000 mi) at 16 knots (30 km/h; 18 mph)

    Endurance: 30 days
    Capacity: 10 × main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 × BTR APC and 340 troops or 3 × main battle tanks, 3 × 2S9 Nona-S SPG, 5 × MT-LB APC, 4 trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo
    Complement: 98
    Armament:

    2 × AK-725 twin 57 mm (2.2 in) DP guns
    4 × 8 Strela 2 SAM launchers
    2 × 22 A-215 Grad-M rocket launchers

    Service record
    Part of:

    Black Sea Fleet
    197th Landing Ship Brigade[2]

    Caesar Kunikov (BDK-64) (Russian: «Цезарь Куников» (БДК-64)) is a Project 775 (NATO reporting name: Ropucha-I) class large landing ship (Bol'shoy Desatnyy Korabl) of the Russian Navy. She is named after Caesar Lvovich Kunikov, the commanding officer of a landing party that captured the beach-head of Malaya Zemlya, a Hero of the Soviet Union.

    The ship was built at the Stocznia Pólnocna shipyard in Gdańsk, Poland, and launched on 30 October 1986.

    She is currently in service with Black Sea Fleet's 197th Landing Ship Brigade, of the 30th Division of Surface Ships, and homeported in Sevastopol. She is under the patronage of the city of Zelenograd (since 1998) and Chelyabinsk Oblast (since 2011).
    Combat action

    Caesar Kunikov was the flagship of the Russian squadron that participated in the battle off the coast of Abkhazia during the 2008 South Ossetia war.

    In October, 2015 Caesar Kunikov was sent to Syria with a cargo of weapons and ammo for Syrian Arab Army.[3]

    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    hmmmm

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    Rook to Rook showdown???
    RULE 1:
    THEY want you DEAD.

    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my brothers' children (and their parents) may have peace, and have NO KNOWLEDGE of what I have done."

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  30. #70
    That ship was the flagship of Russian forces during the South Ossetia war. The crew is battle tested.

    DEFINITELY a potential for a showdown here. Interesting the Russians went with such a well measured response though. I would have expected the Admiral Kunetzov (their aircraft carrier) to show up. Russians do overkill, they don't do measured responses.

    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Rook to Rook showdown???

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    The Kuz may have a couple flat tires.....

    Or it's too deep draft (or the tug that follows it is)
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    "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my brothers' children (and their parents) may have peace, and have NO KNOWLEDGE of what I have done."

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Rook to Rook showdown???
    I like the metaphor. Nice.

    Russia plays a patient game.
    "As the rising of the sun is clear to all, so the glory of the Lord fills all his works."

  33. #73
    I missed this story yesterday.
    So much for a measured Russian response...............

    So now we have a RORO ship in the sea of Azov with troops and armor onboard, and now we have the Severomorsk, a Udaloy2 class destroyer heading that way. This puppy has 130mm guns onboard-essentially ship mounted D-25s. And a truckload of missiles as well. Think Russian version of a Spruance class destroyer-Udaloys were the first Soviet ships to use gas turbines for propulsion if I remember correctly.

    So, They have the troops, the armor on one ship and covering firepower floating in on the other. Yikes.


    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...black-sea.html


    Large Russian destroyer enters Black Sea
    By Illia Ponomarenko.
    Published Jan. 9 at 6:51 pm
    Russian Northern Fleet's anti-submarine destroyer Severomorsk crosses the Bosporus Strait on Jan. 9, 2019.


    Russia has sent a large anti-submarine destroyer, the Severomorsk of Russia’s Northern Fleet, to the Black Sea, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Jan. 9.

    Between late September and mid-December 2018, the warship traveled through the Indian Ocean, as well as the Gulf of Aden and the Red and Arabian Seas, “on missions to combat piracy and ensuring security of civilian shipping,” the press service said. The vessel was in the Mediterranean on New Year’s Day and Orthodox Christmas on Jan. 7.

    The warship reportedly visited a number of foreign ports on military diplomatic missions, participated in Russian-Pakistani anti-piracy drills in the Indian Ocean, and then took part in Russia’s own inter-fleet maneuvers in the Mediterranean .

    Earlier on Jan. 9, the Severomorsk was pictured passing through the Bosphorus Strait, producing a trail of smoke.

    #ВМФ Project 1155 Northern Fleet Сф Udaloy class destroyer is powered by COGAG (combined gas and gas)turbines. Smoke is expected during sub-freezing winter-morning temperature of Bosphorus. pic.twitter.com/GvmSogatJ5

    — Yörük Işık (@YorukIsik) 9 January 2019

    Andrii Klymenko, the chief editor of the Black Sea News media outlet, noted that the Severomorsk was the first large Russian ocean-going warship to enter the region since Russia invaded and occupied the Ukrainian territory of Crimea in 2014.

    The Severomorsk, a 7480-ton destroyer was launched in late 1985 under the name Simferopol, but was renamed in early 1996. It is considered one of the best vessels of its type in Russia’s Northern Fleet.

    Its passage through the Bosphorus Strait took place just three days after the U.S. Navy dock landing ship USS Fort McHenry, with members of the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard, entered the Black Sea on Jan. 6 and later sailed to the Romanian port of Constanta for three-days of joint maneuvers with Romanian forces.

    Tensions in the area remain high following Russia’s Nov. 25 attack on three Ukrainian navy vessels that were en route to the Russian-controlled Kerch Strait, the gateway to the Azov Sea, control of which has been aggressively monopolized by Russia since mid-2018.

    Following the assault, in which 24 Ukrainian sailors were seized and imprisoned, the Ukrainian port of Odesa was visited by a British Royal Navy hydrographic vessel HMS Echo, the presence of which was meant to demonstrate support from NATO for Ukraine in its escalating confrontation with the Kremlin

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    BUY MORE WHISKEY, ALFAMAN AND DANIEL ALERT!!!!

    Well, Alfaman, CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING, AMIGO. Now while all this fecal material is flowing around the Black Sea, Sea of Azov, the Russian Black Sea Fleet, guess what my favorite, "I'm the reincarnated, Ottoman Empire Sultan, ie ERDOGAN THE BAT POOP CRAZY, DELUSIONAL YAHOO WHO DREAMS OF GLOBAL WAR IS DOING? hMM, HE IS MASSING ARMOR AND INFANTRY AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF TO INVADE SYRIA AND LIGHT UP THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST. And Erodgan's new butt buddy is Porky Ukraines Chocolate, neo con warmongrer yahoo, who is also Biden's best butt buddy. IN CASE YOU MISSED IT, OUR RESTORED OTTOMAN LEADER ERDOGAN IS NOW PLANNING TO INVADE NORTHERN SYRIA TO THE EUPHRATES RIVER AND THE IRAQ BORDER. Yeah, Alfaman Doomer Doug is now predicting a 12 Helicopter Day in and around DC over Erdogan's latest craziness.

    Now, how ya all like them marbles? Seriously, Alfaman it looks to Doomer Doug that the ENTIRE BLACK SEA REGION, FROM CRIMEA, SEA OF AZOV, TO NORTHERN SYRIA AND THE EUPHRATES RIVER IN SYRIA ALL THE WAY TO THE SYRIA/IRAQ BORDER IS ABOUT TO BLOW, ALL CUZ WE GOT A BAT POOP CRAZY ERDOGAN WHO IS ABOUT TO LIGHT IT ALL UP!

    the link is here.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...-syrian-border


    Turkish Lira Tumbles As Tanks Amass Along Syrian Border
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    Fri, 01/11/2019 - 09:22


    After an already painful start for the Turkish lira this year, shedding more than 3.5% of its value against the dollar during the first three days of 2019 when it flash crashed after Mrs Watanabe puked on the carry trade after Apple shockingly guided lower, and after early this week the lira slid lower amid renewed tensions between the US and Turkey following hopes that the feuding NATO members might finally be setting aside their differences, dashed after Bolton's snub heard round the world by President Erdogan, the lira is now tumbling on fears of further military escalation in Syria.

    On Friday Turkey's Anadolu news agency reported Turkey has deployed tanks on the border along Syria's Idlib province. Turkey's defense minister further announced preparations for an invasion of Syrian Kurdish enclaves east of the Euphrates "continues intensely".

    "We have Manbij, and the east of Euphrates ahead. Necessary planning was made regarding this. Our preparation continues intensely," Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said while inspecting troops near the border with Syria, according to Anadolu.
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  35. #75
    Ukraine's Emb. to UK‏Verified account @UkrEmbLondon · Jan 11

    #Russia has deployed 4 battalions of S-400 Triumf missile systems in occupied #Crimea = 48 launchers carrying 4 missiles each. This allows RU "cover" all #BlackSea & #AzovSea and most of #Ukraine. RU routinely conducts air assault exercises near UA border
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    If Russia moved the S-400 missiles to the north-western point of Crimea, they could provide air cover to Transnistria, where Russia has about 1500 - 2000 soldiers.

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  37. #77
    Coverage from zero to 100,000 feet for the entire northern Black sea, along with all Ukranian ports and half of Ukraine itself.
    An interesting situation from an offensive standpoint, for sure.


    Quote Originally Posted by northern watch View Post
    Ukraine's Emb. to UK‏Verified account @UkrEmbLondon · Jan 11

    #Russia has deployed 4 battalions of S-400 Triumf missile systems in occupied #Crimea = 48 launchers carrying 4 missiles each. This allows RU "cover" all #BlackSea & #AzovSea and most of #Ukraine. RU routinely conducts air assault exercises near UA border

  38. #78
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    Ukrainian military reports increased Russian UAV flights over Donbas, says 8 times such UAVs were identified and jammed https://liveuamap.com/en/2019/14-jan...ed-russian-uav … #Ukraine

  39. #79
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    US destroyer enters Black Sea ‘to support regional partners’, Russia sends ship to ‘monitor’ — RT World News (link: https://www.rt.com/news/449218-us-de...ampaign=chrome) rt.com/news/449218-us…
    5:45 PM · Jan 19, 2019 ·

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    Reference the Donald Cook, a Burke class Destroyer mentioned in Post 79 above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdid View Post
    http://tass.com/defense/1040809 (fair use)
    January 19, 23:19

    MOSCOW, January 19. /TASS/. Russia’s Black Sea Fleet is monitoring movements of the US guided-missile destroyer USS Donald Cook, which had entered the Black Sea, the Russian Defense Ministry’s National Defense Control Center said on Saturday.

    "Forces of the Black Sea Fleet have begun tracking the guided-missile destroyer USS Donald Cook immediately after she made a transit into the Black Sea," the center said.

    According to the center, "the Black Sea Fleet guard ship Pytlivy began tracking the movements of the US naval ship immediately." Besides, the US ship will be monitored with the help of the fleet’s electronic and technical means.

    USS Donald Cook entered the Black Sea at 8.50 p.m., the National Defense Control Center specified.

    The top brass recalled that under the Montreux Convention, which regulates transit and navigation through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles Straits, the USS Donald Cook cannot stay in the Black Sea longer than 21 days, as a naval warship belonging to a country without a Black Sea coastline.

    Earlier in the day, the US 6th Fleet’s press service reported that the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Donald Cook began its transit of the Dardanelles Strait heading into the Black Sea "to conduct maritime security operations and enhance regional maritime stability, combined readiness and naval capability with our NATO allies and partners in the region.".
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