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    How many funerals does one man need when he dies?

    Bush, the senior is getting yet another one today in another huge church.



    When does this end, huh?



    Enough already.



    He could have a hundred priests, ministers, rabbi's or whoever praying over him and it isn't going to save his soul.



    Doesn't anyone else see this as a bit "over the top"?


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    As many as they can get at taxpayer expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    As many as they can get at taxpayer expense.
    I guess.......

    I don't remember this happening with other former presidents. Maybe a small graveside service for family but this is over the top. Sigh......


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    Had to "top" McC's?
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    Didn't see any of Mcstain's end so I wouldn't know about that. No interest in traitors or pediphiles and how they get put to rest. Just tired of the msm pushing all of it down my throat. So, I will go find a movie to watch or something. Breakfast sounds good too. Been a little nutzo around the house this morning......

    All I wanted to do was watch the news but it's all about Bush......so................................. movie and breakfast with headphones on.......lol.


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    It is not uncommon to have 2 services if in different parts of the country. One for friends in one location and one for family at the time of burial.

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    Everyone wants to make sure he is dead.

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    Everyone is making him out to be such a good president...if he was that good he would have gotten a second term.
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    Someone trying to canonize him?

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    Frantic delay to try and avoid about half a dozen hearings that were SUPPOSED to take place yesterday, if the reports are right.

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    I HATE funerals and have made my wishes not to have one known.

    They are one of life's major depressants, IMHO.
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    If it were Obama's I wouldn't care if he had 57, as long as he was dead.

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    The broadcast, cable and print MSM are failing business models.

    Resources for timely news gathering are limited.

    Thus we have this lazy herd mentality coverage that focuses on only a few topics that are easy to cover.
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    The Globalists need a lot of funerals for Bush since there Seems to be more discussion of Trump than their CIA NWO Bush



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    From the moment he crossed the transept of the soaring Washington National Cathedral, tore off his overcoat and took his seat in the front pew, President Donald Trump was an outsider.


    When the others sang an opening hymn, his mouth did not move. When the others read the Apostles' Creed, he stood stoically. And when one eulogist after another testified to George H.W. Bush's integrity and character and honesty and bravery and compassion, Trump sat and listened, often with his lips pursed and his arms crossed defiantly over his chest.

    Wednesday's state funeral was carefully orchestrated to be about only one man and his milestones - Bush the father, the friend, the war hero and the lifelong public servant. But inevitably it became about Trump, too, for it was impossible to pay tribute to the 41st president without drawing implicit contrasts with the 45th.


    "His life code was: 'Tell the truth. Don't blame people. Be strong. Do your best. Try hard. Forgive. Stay the course,' " Bush biographer Jon Meacham said in his eulogy. "And that was, and is, the most American of creeds."

    The mourners did not deliver the searing rebukes of Trump the nation witnessed in September for the funeral of Sen. John McCain. But despite being crafted to honor Bush's legacy, their words nevertheless also served to underscore the singular nature of Trump's own presidency.

    Trump was in the company of all of his living predecessors for the first time Wednesday, and the encounter was plainly uncomfortable. By 10:49 a.m., when Trump and wife Melania first stepped into the cathedral, a cool hush had come over the pews filled by American dignitaries and foreign leaders, past and present. Trump handed his black overcoat to a military aide and took his seat on the aisle next to Melania, with three past presidents and first ladies seated to her side.


    First was the president Trump said was illegitimate (Barack Obama); then the first lady he called a profligate spender of taxpayer dollars (Michelle Obama); then the president he called the worst abuser of women (Bill Clinton); then the first lady and secretary of state he said should be in jail (Hillary Clinton); and then the president he said was the second-worst behind Obama (Jimmy Carter) and his wife, Rosalynn.

    The Trumps and the Obamas greeted each other brusquely, but only Melania Trump reached over to shake hands with Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton did not acknowledge the Trumps, keeping her gaze straight ahead as if determined not to make eye contact with the man who continues, two years after the 2016 election, to inspire "Lock her up!" chants at his rallies.


    The frostiness of Trump's interactions with his predecessors was all the more apparent when former President George W. Bush entered the cathedral a few minutes later. Bush shook hands cheerfully with each of the other presidents and first ladies. He slipped what appeared to be a candy to a smiling Michelle Obama - a sweet reminder of McCain's funeral, when video of Bush giving Obama candies went viral on social media.

    As a military honor guard carried Bush's flag-draped casket to rest in front of the altar, the Trumps joined the Obamas and Clintons in holding their right hands over their hearts.

    Trump's Cabinet members and aides seemed to blend easily into the audience. Vice President Mike Pence and his wife, Karen, wandered over to exchange pleasantries with the Clintons and Obamas. White House counselor Kellyanne Conway and policy director Stephen Miller schmoozed their way through the cathedral's nave. Just behind the presidents and vice presidents, Ivanka Trump sat next to Chelsea Clinton, suppressing from public view any hostility that might exist between them.

    It was President Trump who seemed most out of place. For about two hours, he sat in silence, the rare event at which the president was not the center of attention but merely an observer.

    Since learning of Bush's death late last Friday, Trump has striven to be magnanimous - to act, as he often boasts he could, "presidential." Trump opened the doors of Blair House for the Bushes to stay. He dispatched Air Force One to carry the late president's body and members of the Bush family to and from Houston. All the while, he has refrained - so far, at least - from publicly reacting to the nearly weeklong celebration of Bush's life and its contrasts with Trump's.

    The first of Bush's five eulogists at Wednesday's funeral was Meacham, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who grew close to Bush as he researched the former president's life for the 2015 biography "Destiny and Power." Meacham explained what Bush meant by his famous volunteerism phrase "thousand points of light," which Trump mocked this past summer as an ineffective and confusing slogan.

    "Abraham Lincoln's 'better angels of our nature' and George H.W. Bush's 'thousand points of light' are companion verses in American's national hymn, for Lincoln and Bush both called on us to choose the right over the convenient, to hope rather than to fear, and to heed not our worst impulses, but our best instincts," Meacham said.

    The next eulogist, former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, praised three of Bush's achievements in office - negotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Americans With Disabilities Act and the Clean Air Act.

    "There's a word for this. It's called 'leadership,' " Mulroney said. "Leadership. And let me tell you that when George Bush was president of the United States of America, every single head of government in the world knew that they were dealing with a gentleman, a genuine leader, one who was distinguished, resolute and brave."

    It was not lost on the audience that Trump has slammed NAFTA, calling it one of the worst trade deals ever; mocked a journalist's physical disability; and rolled back scores of environmental regulations.

    Trump sat through much of Mulroney's speech crossing his arms over his chest, or holding his hands together between his knees, at times leaning forward in his seat.

    Trump's body language loosened up when former Sen. Alan Simpson delivered a lighter and more humorous remembrance of his longtime friend. Trump laughed as Simpson told stories about serving in Washington with Bush; at one point, Simpson sang the most famous line from the play "Evita": "Don't cry for me, Argentina!"

    But Simpson, too, conveyed a more serious lesson as he spoke of Bush's humility and kindness. "Those who travel the high road of humility in Washington, D.C., are not bothered by heavy traffic," he said, adding later, "Hatred corrodes the container it's carried in."

    As he assumed the presidency, Bush summoned all Americans to create a "kinder" and "gentler" nation - a message that Trump, then a Manhattan real estate developer and tabloid celebrity, found lacking.

    "I like George Bush very much and support him and always will," Trump said in a 1990 interview with Playboy. "But I disagree with him when he talks of a kinder, gentler America. I think if this country gets any kinder or gentler, it's literally going to cease to exist."

    At Wednesday's funeral, the most emotional eulogy was that of Bush's eldest son, George W., who celebrated his father's character.

    "He showed me what it means to be a president who serves with integrity, leads with courage and acts with love in his heart for the citizens of our country," Bush said.

    Trump applauded Bush's speech, and then the Rev. Russell Jones Levenson Jr., who had been Bush's pastor at St. Martin's Episcopal Church in Houston, took to the pulpit to deliver a final, stirring eulogy. His was as direct a reference to the Trump era as any.

    "Some have said this is an end of an era," Levenson said. "But it doesn't have to be. Perhaps this is an invitation to fill the void that has been left behind."

    After the choir sang and bells rang, after Bush's casket was carried down the center aisle and as it was loaded into a hearse, the Trumps departed the cathedral quickly through a side exit. The president was whisked back to the White House. He returned to the seclusion and comfort of the Oval Office.

    This article was written by Philip Rucker, a reporter for The Washington Post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    If it were Obama's I wouldn't care if he had 57, as long as he was dead.
    here here

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    As many funeral's are there are thread's? This is what, the third one that I can see.

    Maybe I'll start a post-in-the-ground thread tomorrow to track the events of him lying there.
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    It doesn't matter to me how many funerals he has. I just turn the TV off. I get all of my news here, anyway.

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    We really need to make laws to reign in the spending on these state funerals! Look how many old Senators and ex Senators we have about to kick the bucket! If they all get funerals like McCain did then we will all go broke. There is no reason they can't pay for their own funerals! And I include Ex Presidents too! I am sick of all the fawning over Bush! He was hated when he was president and hated ever since by all. Not even republicans liked him. Enough is enough!

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    From the moment he crossed the transept of the soaring Washington National Cathedral, tore off his overcoat and took his seat in the front pew, President Donald Trump was an outsider.
    But he (Trump) did it. He did what he must do. For decorum.

    Not much more.

    And considering the subject and the fellow attendees - I'm good with that.

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    If this were Trump's funeral, would we still be complaining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBreeze View Post
    If this were Trump's funeral, would we still be complaining?
    I don't know about everyone else but I would be complaining.

    I'm real tired of all politicians who keep putting their hands out wanting more money. (property taxes are due)

    They can all FOAD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giblin View Post
    It is not uncommon to have 2 services if in different parts of the country. One for friends in one location and one for family at the time of burial.

    Yep, this.

    The death of a former President is a State event as well as a family/friends event. Fer gosh sakes, some of you guys are petty as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunny225 View Post
    I don't know about everyone else but I would be complaining.

    I'm real tired of all politicians who keep putting their hands out wanting more money. (property taxes are due)

    They can all FOAD.
    I wouldn't want it, either. I just thought as long as it's a politician's funeral none of us like, it's too much coverage. If it were Trump, some would be asking for re-runs forever. They would never get enough of it. That was my point, and I don't watch any of the coverage, and think it's a waste.

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    Do the networks truly think people are watching this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker View Post
    Had to "top" McC's?
    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doat View Post
    Do the networks truly think people are watching this?
    Well either cover this or cover "actual news" like what's actually going on in Europe or at the border or Central America or the inner cities or what is really going on within DC or any state capital....

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    We enjoyed the music as many of these hymns have been discontinued from many churches for political correctness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doat View Post
    Do the networks truly think people are watching this?
    Actually they KNOW people are actually watching this.

    The posts on this thread are a FANTASTIC example of the "Echo Chamber Effect (TM)" that happens. MOST folks here are in serious agreement that this is WAY over the top, he was worthless or worse, etc., etc., etc.

    I would point out that we here are actually NOT REPRESENTATIVE of the majority in the Nation..(the 2016 election results actually PROVE that assertion, BTW) so when we here are fed up with something like this, and we pile on and agree, and THEN believe that the WHOLE REST OF THE COUNTRY agrees with us (because we see no dissent TO our board-internal agreement) WE ARE DEMONSTRABLY WRONG...ECHO CHAMBERS do not include dissenting opinions. EVER.

    And that's how the HARD LIBS believe THEY are in a MAJORITY....THEY SEE NO DISSENTING OPINIONS IN their circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Actually they KNOW people are actually watching this.

    The posts on this thread are a FANTASTIC example of the "Echo Chamber Effect (TM)" that happens. MOST folks here are in serious agreement that this is WAY over the top, he was worthless or worse, etc., etc., etc.

    I would point out that we here are actually NOT REPRESENTATIVE of the majority in the Nation..(the 2016 election results actually PROVE that assertion, BTW) so when we here are fed up with something like this, and we pile on and agree, and THEN believe that the WHOLE REST OF THE COUNTRY agrees with us (because we see no dissent TO our board-internal agreement) WE ARE DEMONSTRABLY WRONG...ECHO CHAMBERS do not include dissenting opinions. EVER.

    And that's how the HARD LIBS believe THEY are in a MAJORITY....THEY SEE NO DISSENTING OPINIONS IN their circles.
    Excellent point.

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    Bush can have as many funerals as they want, it doesn't matter to me, DH and I are not watching any of it anyway. What I find annoying is that all the talk radio shows that I like are focusing on it too, so there is nothing to listen to on current events/politics for a few days.
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    I watched the funerals of presidents and celebrities and those who interested me. I did not watch the funeral of John McCain. I didn't not like him or his spitefulness. I've will always like the Bush family as a good example of love and devotion to family. I've learned a lot about George HW Bush I never knew. I was not his biggest fan. I have watched most of the services and transport.

    Today, as a wife of a retired military man, I love the traditions, pomp and circumstance and dedication of those who were part of this service. I've cried and laughed during the last couple days. I love these tradition. This is history folks.

    Yep, I'm a news junky like most of you, but I can put that crap aside for a couple days to watch these events or let others follow history and services for George H W Bush. Believe me this will be a blimp on the days of your lives. Just wait until Obama passes, a month will go by before the weeping and gnashing of teeth will stop. And no I will not be watching. (Of course I will probably be long dead by then.)

    Respectfully posted by an old woman longing for the traditions of long ago.
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    As much as I hate the man. How we treat former presidents is part of our culture.

    I hope to see Obama's state funeral very soon!

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    I don't know but they just interrupted Dr. Oz he had a guest on who was sharing one of the dishes she loves to cook that's very heart and brain healthy and I didn't get the recipe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post
    How is an empty train with nobody in or near it newsworthy?
    Oh look, it's a train! Makes me wonder what's going on that we're being distracted from news-wise?
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Go read that Dalrymple quote again.

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    And again.

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    See through the programming.

    It was a straight-up murder of your country.

    And GHWB was one of the shooters.
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    It was all toooooo much. I couldn't watch most of it.

    Well, he should finally be planted, and that's the end of it. I will say if anyone had to endure the whole mess personally, especially the family, they have to be dog tired by now and probably don't even have the strength to go to any wake/after party and drink a ton like people usually do. They're probably just gonna hit the hay.


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    Quote Originally Posted by naturallysweet View Post
    As much as I hate the man. How we treat former presidents is part of our culture.

    I hope to see Obama's state funeral very soon!
    Obama... when he dies, it will be the day the earth stood still (again). They'll probably have a funeral in every state, a 30-day govt shutdown for mourning, an official Obama rememberance week, endless Obama crawlers on every tv channel for weeks on end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    Attitude adjustment as needed, folks. Now - OR LATER. But it WILL happen.
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    Go read that Dalrymple quote again.

    “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.”

    ― Theodore Dalrymple


    And again.

    The ongoing Planting Poppy shitshow is designed to lull the rubes back to their sportsball, SSRIs, Brawndo, and GigaPorn5G-A-Rama – while all of the Deep State courtiers take notes on who was and wasn’t properly fawning.

    See through the programming.

    It was a straight-up murder of your country.

    And GHWB was one of the shooters.
    Excellent post, Doz.

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