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    The Intel Crab
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    Poroshenko asks war veterans to stand prepared to defend their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetimer View Post
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    Poroshenko asks war veterans to stand prepared to defend their country.
    Rhut-Roh. Each vet have an AK under the bed? Gonna, maybe, need it.
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    Poroshenko: We appeal to the partner countries under the Budapest Memorandum, to the EU countries, to participants of the Normandy format, in order to coordinate effective measures to protect #Ukraine. We appeal to the whole pro-Ukrainian coalition: we must unite efforts.
    “The quieter you become, the more you can hear.”
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  5. #165
    Tell ya what, the Uke's need to browse PSA and BACK THE TRUCK UP!!!
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  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    If this keeps on the current path a lot of people are going to get cold....
    Or whatever room temperature happens to be. I presume that was your meaning.

    ETA: Then I read the intervening posts. Everyone understood you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Any world strategic importance to the Black Sea? Don't see any. Just don't feel like sacrificing US men and dollar's for nothing (AGAIN).
    Pipelines from the oilfields to the east to Europe....

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    I think it is no coincidence that our southern border is being stormed here while Ukraine and Russia are blooming up over there, right after a very distracting holiday weekend.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Futures are actually up slightly about 80 points. I take that is at this point big money isn’t overly concerned yet. If the Ukraine is suicidal enough to declare war in several hours markets will certainly crash and that would be an infamous black swan that not too many were watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetimer View Post
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    Poroshenko: We appeal to the partner countries under the Budapest Memorandum, to the EU countries, to participants of the Normandy format, in order to coordinate effective measures to protect #Ukraine. We appeal to the whole pro-Ukrainian coalition: we must unite efforts.
    BULLHOCKEY!!!! we need to let ukraine sink into history, EVIL to the core is thier leadership. The Ukranian People need to be saved by collasping the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    I think it is no coincidence that our southern border is being stormed here while Ukraine and Russia are blooming up over there, right after a very distracting holiday weekend.
    TheSearcher, You are so right! Heard recently, how many cooincendecs until mathmatically impossible. OUR national response could save the Ukranian People from certian enslavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    Futures are actually up slightly about 80 points. I take that is at this point big money isn’t overly concerned yet. If the Ukraine is suicidal enough to declare war in several hours markets will certainly crash and that would be an infamous black swan that not too many were watching.


    Too early...wait till early morning

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    If war begins in earnest expect oil prices to go through the roof.

    Do you have lots of firewood?
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    Too early...wait till early morning

    I may pull an all nighter. Brewing coffee as we speak
    you bet! lots of shadow wealth been moved to ukraine as other shadow bqanks(servers) get collasped. The central bank of ukraine is the target, I pray POTUS allows soveriegnty rule the water. (and you cant build islands to establish new soverienty or 200 mile safety zone)

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    MSM here still quiet about incident and developments...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    If war begins in earnest expect oil prices to go through the roof.

    Do you have lots of firewood?
    Hey, enough of that oil rising talk! Just got down to 2.06 around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    If war begins in earnest expect oil prices to go through the roof.

    Do you have lots of firewood?
    25 acre's of oak, hickory, ash and maple do? And millions and millions more around me.
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  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    MSM here still quiet about incident and developments...
    Because it's two conservative states so they don't care? Assuming the Uke's are Christian/conservative.
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  19. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Hey, enough of that oil rising talk! Just got down to 2.06 around here.
    $2.17 here...

    If this war spreads fuel will be a precious commodity.
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  20. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    25 acre's of oak, hickory, ash and maple do? And millions and millions more around me.
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  21. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    MSM here still quiet about incident and developments...
    They're trying to figure out who can profitably be portrayed as victims, and how it makes Trump evil. Soon as they send out the talking points, they'll all be on the same page.
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  22. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    $2.17 here...

    If this war spreads fuel will be a precious commodity.
    Don't disagree but not sure it will.

    If it didn't spread with the Crimea takeover not sure it'll go anywhere here. Plus, are the Eurotrash elite's really going to give up their Ruskie gas and oil for Ukraine? Can't see that happening.
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  23. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    Kewl
    We think so too. Wish we would have moved 20 years ago, oh well, not what God had in mind for us I guess.
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  24. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    They're trying to figure out who can profitably be portrayed as victims, and how it makes Trump evil. Soon as they send out the talking points, they'll all be on the same page.
    No doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    If war begins in earnest expect oil prices to go through the roof.

    Do you have lots of firewood?

    I keep about two heating seasons worth in the shed and have chain saws and a 12 horse wood splitter. Up here heat is a big issue and too many are dependent on propane and even electric. A lot of people have wood stoves but without juice to run the blower it doesn’t do them a lot of good. Many also have those outdoor boilers but they need power to work as well. They can get backup power as an option but that is intended for temporary outages. Give me a freestanding wood stove any day.
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    For links see article source.....
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    Ukraine accuses Russia of firing on, seizing three of its ships

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    KIEV, Ukraine — Ukraine's navy accused Russia of opening fire on and seizing three of its vessels on Sunday in a strait near Moscow-annexed Crimea, sparking alarm among Kiev's Western allies and raising fears of military escalation.

    The unprecedented incident occurred in the Kerch Strait, a narrow waterway that gives access to the Sea of Azov that is used by Ukraine and Russia.

    Ukraine's navy said the incident took place as three of its ships -- two small warships and a tugboat -- were heading through the strait for the port of Mariupol.

    It said a Russian border guard vessel rammed the tugboat in "openly aggressive actions" and then fired on the ships, immobilising all three. Two Ukrainian soldiers were reportedly injured.

    The ramming damaged the tug's engine, outer shell and guardrail, it added.
    It also said the Kerch Strait was blocked by a tanker, and that Russian military aircraft were flying over the area.

    The European Union issued a statement saying: "We expect Russia to restore freedom of passage at the Kerch strait and urge all to act with utmost restraint to de-escalate the situation immediately."

    NATO in a statement also urged "restraint and de-escalation", and called on Russia "to ensure unhindered access to Ukrainian ports in the Azov Sea, in accordance with international law."

    - Kiev mulls response -
    The confrontation at sea was a dangerous development in the long-running conflict pitting Ukraine against Russia and Russian-backed rebels in the east of the country.

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said "Russian special forces have taken over some ships". He called a meeting of his military cabinet to evaluate and determine his country's next steps.




    A Russian cargo ship is seen beneath a bridge connecting the Russian mainland with the Crimean Peninsula after three Ukrainian navy vessels were stopped by Russia from entering the Sea of Azov via the Kerch Strait in the Black Sea, Crimea November 25, 2018. REUTERS/Pavel Rebrov
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    A Russian cargo ship is seen beneath a bridge connecting the Russian mainland with the Crimean Peninsula after three Ukrainian navy vessels were stopped by Russia from entering the Sea of Azov via the Kerch Strait in the Black Sea, Crimea November 25, 2018. REUTERS/Pavel Rebrov

    Ukraine's foreign ministry said it considered "these aggressive actions" a violation of international law that would be met with "an international and diplomatic legal response".

    Russia for its part accused Kiev of illegally entering its waters and deliberately provoking a conflict. Moscow claims the waters off Crimea after annexing the peninsula in 2014.

    Russian politicians accused Ukraine of acting at the behest of its Western allies and deliberately attempting to escalate the conflict.

    Crimean leader Sergei Aksyonov wrote on Facebook that he "was sure the Western masters of the Kiev regime are behind this act of provocation."

    Pyotr Tolstoy, deputy speaker of the Russian parliament, warned on Facebook that "the Ukrainian puppet authorities... are risking unleashing a large military conflict."

    "One thing is clear: Russia won't allow military provocations in its territorial waters," he said.

    Russia's FSB security service, which oversees the border guard service, said in a statement quoted by Russian news agencies that the Ukrainian ships "illegally entered a temporarily closed area of Russian territorial waters".

    It said Ukraine's ships were carrying out "provocative actions" and "their aim is clear: to create a conflict situation in this region."

    - Increased Russian controls -
    Ukraine said it gave Russia advance warning of its ships' route, which its ships are obliged to take to reach the Sea of Azov.

    The latest incident comes after the Ukrainian navy in September complained of "acts of provocation" by Russian border guards against its ships taking the same route.

    Ukraine has increased the number of its navy ships and border guard patrols in the Sea of Azov after Russia deployed five more warships there.

    Kiev says its naval buildup is due to Russia stepping up controls in the area this year and carrying out lengthy checks on commercial shipping that were very costly for freight and port companies.

    Kiev and the West have accused Moscow of deliberately blocking ships from accessing Mariupol, which has vital access to heavy industry in the region.

    Mariupol is close to the region of eastern Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists in a conflict that has caused at least 10,000 deaths since 2014.

    The United States, a key ally to Ukraine, is opposed to Russia's takeover of Crimea and is looking to reduce Ukraine's dependency on Russian gas pipelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    I think it is no coincidence that our southern border is being stormed here while Ukraine and Russia are blooming up over there, right after a very distracting holiday weekend.
    Yah-huh!! It's almost like the 'deep state,' 'cabal,' 'NWO' et al are close to achieving WW3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    I keep about two heating seasons worth in the shed and have chain saws and a 12 horse wood splitter. Up here heat is a big issue and too many are dependent on propane and even electric. A lot of people have wood stoves but without juice to run the blower it doesn’t do them a lot of good. Many also have those outdoor boilers but they need power to work as well. They can get backup power as an option but that is intended for temporary outages. Give me a freestanding wood stove any day.
    I have a extremely well insulated mini pole barn. My wood burner heats it nicely after about an hour. No blower.
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  29. #189
    Fut's holding steady in the low 60's. Oil was red, now green by a few cent's. We'll see in about 12 hour's I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Any world strategic importance to the Black Sea? Don't see any. Just don't feel like sacrificing US men and dollar's for nothing (AGAIN).
    Agree totally.

    The Russians, however, see it as vitally strategic as they have the entire Black Sea fleet based there. 25,000 personnel, 45 warships, and 6 submarines as of 2014 according to wiki:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet
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  32. #192
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    #ICYMI Statement of
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    , November 21:

    Russia is warning everyone that the responsibility for possible further aggravation of the situation in the Azov Sea-Kerch water area lies with Ukraine and the states that support its provocative actions

    (link: http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/...ent/id/3414549) mid.ru/en/foreign_pol…

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    EndGameWW3 Retweeted
    Russia in USA 🇷🇺
    Russia in USA
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    #ICYMI Statement of
    @MFA_Russia
    , November 21:

    Russia is warning everyone that the responsibility for possible further aggravation of the situation in the Azov Sea-Kerch water area lies with Ukraine and the states that support its provocative actions

    (link: http://www.mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/...ent/id/3414549) mid.ru/en/foreign_pol…

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    IOW; back off or we're all going down.
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    Russia has called for an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council tomorrow (Monday). Gives them a platform to says they’re the victim and of course they can veto any vote against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    Futures are actually up slightly about 80 points. I take that is at this point big money isn’t overly concerned yet. If the Ukraine is suicidal enough to declare war in several hours markets will certainly crash and that would be an infamous black swan that not too many were watching.
    Black Swan is right, they basically committed an act of war and also closed off acces to international shipping lanes. Look at some maps of all the maritime shipping vessels stuck in the area of the straight. I wonder when or if they plan on moving that tanker out of the way. In terms of blocking a vital straight, everyone had their eyes on Hormuz, I doubt many saw this coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intothatgoodnight View Post
    So far, we seem to have only ONE "side of the story," as reported from the Ukraine/NATO/neocon perspective.

    What do the Russian's have to say?


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  37. #197
    I don't see how the Russians can spin this mess as them being victimized to the UN security council. Taking the Crimea was an act of war. They annexed a part of a soverign nation. Closing off international waters and firing on vessels in it is an act of war.

    Let Russia whine as much as they wish in the international arena; they started this mess. It may be near suicidal for the Ukraine to declare war, but live free or die is a pretty valid slogan.

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    Does Ukraine have any anti-ship missiles? Most I could see them try is possibly attack a Russian ship from standoff distance but the Russians most certainly have the airspace locked down so probably not a good chance of that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samus79 View Post
    Does Ukraine have any anti-ship missiles? Most I could see them try is possibly attack a Russian ship from standoff distance but the Russians most certainly have the airspace locked down so probably not a good chance of that happening.
    Holy crap. That, IMO, would unleash a seriously large can of whoop ass. Hope they get it on video.

    Would be interesting if some Harpoon's all of a sudden showed up in the Uke inventory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Holy crap. That, IMO, would unleash a seriously large can of whoop ass. Hope they get it on video.

    Would be interesting if some Harpoon's all of a sudden showed up in the Uke inventory.
    or a rogue Sunburn or two?

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