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WAR Russia blocks Kerch Strait with oil tanker, standoff with Ukrainian Navy happening now - Shots Fired!
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  1. #41
    There may ne a secondary reason to shut down the southern border.
    Sow the Wind....Reap the Whirlwind

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    #BREAKING - @Mariana_Betsa of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of #Ukraine:
    "Today's dangerous events in the Azov Sea testify that a new front of (Russian) aggression is open. Ukraine calling now for emergency meeting of (United Nations Security Council)."
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    The Ukraine is an associate member of NATO. They can't invoke article 5 but can get NATO to convene a conference if they feel threatened. That's article 4.

    Politically if Russia tries to invade we will support the Ukranians with supplies and will "go to bat" for them in the UN and NATO.
    Ukraine will have a navy without any ships before NATO determines the location, main course and dessert for the conference.

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    TOᑭ ᖇOᑭE TᖇAViS Retweeted English Lugansk

    #BREAKING: Russia has attacked Ukraine.

    Situation extremely dynamic and volatile.

    Read this thread for an accurate up to date timeline of events.


    https://twitter.com/loogunda/status/1066665363549691906
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    The globalists (who control Ukraine) might get their war after all but I think Putin is too smart to fall for it. Hopefully a quick spank and that is that.
    Hopefully a quick spank....we're skating on thin ice.
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  6. #46
    The Russians are throwing down.

    They are asking NATO to come and get some.
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    TVDinner🌴🐙🐚🍹🌊🍍🐠
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    #BREAKING: #Russia opens fire on #Ukrainian navy ships in Kerch Strait
    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...-kerch-strait/
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  8. #48
    ELINT News Retweeted
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    Ukraine has raised alert level of armed forces near Donetsk, along with the southern military district near #Crimea.
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    Hromadske.UA
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    Через атаку та захоплення російськими кораблями українських катерів у Керченській протоці Україна підняла по тривозі військову прокуратуру Південного регіону та частину прокуратури зони бойових дій на Донбасі (link: https://hromadske.ua/posts/ataka-kor...vu-prokuraturu) hromadske.ua/posts/ataka-ko…
    2:44 PM · Nov 25, 2018 ·


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    (link: https://www.rt.com/news/444841-kerch...ussia-ukraine/) rt.com/news/444841-ke…

    RT says the Ukranian Navy violated the border and sailed on Russian waters without authorization

    Russian vessel blocks Kerch strait after Ukrainian Navy ships violate border
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    .....good idea....

  9. #49
    Trump leaving Fla. and heading back to D.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mecoastie View Post
    SO I have been looking nd there is no defense agreement that I can find between the Ukraine and either the US or NATO. Does anyone know if there is one?
    Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances

    The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances refers to three identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom, and the United States Of America. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[1]

    The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

    As a result, between 1994 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons. Before that, Ukraine had the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile,[2][3] of which Ukraine had physical if not operational control.[4][5] The use of the weapons was dependent on Russian-controlled electronic Permissive Action Links and the Russian command and control system.[4][5]

    Following the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation in 2014, the US,[6][7] Canada,[8] the UK,[9] along with other countries,[10] stated that Russian involvement was a breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum, a Memorandum transmitted to the United Nations under the signature of Sergei Lavrov, amongst others,[11] and in violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity. On 4 March 2014, the Russian president replied to a question on violation of Budapest Memorandum, describing current Ukrainian situation as a revolution, when "a new state arises, but with this state and in respect to this state, we have not signed any obligatory documents".[12] Russia stated it had never been under obligation to "force any part of Ukraine's civilian population to stay in Ukraine against its will." Russia suggested that the US was in violation of the Budapest Memorandum, describing the Euromaidan as a US-instigated coup.[13]

    more,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budape...ity_Assurances
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  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    The Russians are throwing down.

    They are asking NATO to come and get some.
    This will not end well and let's not forget Syria that is heating up as well

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    This will not end well and let's not forget Syria that is heating up as well
    Rumor is that Ukraine is firing back.
    Sow the Wind....Reap the Whirlwind

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    INTELLIPUS
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    Ten minutes until war cabinet
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    #BREAKING: UA President Poroshenko calls war cabinet at 2200 due to "extraordinary" events. Earlier, Russian coast guard ship reported to have rammed UA Navy tug in Kerch Strait. Reports now of Russian attack on UA ships (tug had 2 patrol boat escorts). One UA sailor said injured
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    Then what?

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    Ukraine's navy claimed one of its small armoured artillery ships, the 'Berdyansk', was damaged and one crew member was injured ( Ukranian Ministry of Defence )
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    EHA News
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    #BREAKING

    According to "Russia Today", Russian FSB claims that Ukrainian ships were never shot or boarded by Russian forces.

    RT also reports that the ships are returning to their home port.


    #Russia
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    #KerchStrait
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    #BREAKING: Ukrainian army units in Odessa go on ‘battle alert’ and Ukrainian Navy and Air Force units on "full alert," according to Ukrainian agencies
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    Russia International News 🇷🇺
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    From sources within Russian MoD; "Any attack on Russia from Ukraine or it/s allies will result in a dangerous situation...Russia warns Western allies to not interfere in crimes committed by Ukraine or there will be consequences." #Ukraine #Kerch #BREAKING #russia

    2:39 PM · Nov 25, 2018 ·

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    EHA News
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    #BREAKING

    The Ukrainian Air Force has just been placed into full combat readiness.

    Also ground troops near #Odessa, #Donetsk and the #Crimea border are reported to be combat ready.


    #Russia
    #Ukraine
    #KerchStrait
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    On the front page of drudge report

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    Video supposedly from today's incident.

    Runtime 1:13

    #BREAKING Russian Coast Guard Rams & Opens Fire To Ukrainian Ships.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko21CD4k58E

    The incident happened minutes ago as the argument of Ukrainian ships passing in the thin strips of sea of Azov between the crimea and Russia. Initially Russia blocked the ship traffic and seized three Ukrainian ships.

    After hours of confrontation, Russia opened fire and wounded two sailer. The situation is developing.

    Russia even sent SU-25 and helicopters in the bridge. The Ukraine side is heavily outnumbered by the Russian side in case of an actual confrontation in large scale.
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    Ukrainians are gathering in front the Russian Embassy in #Kyiv/#Kiev right now. #Ukraine

    12:04 PM - 25 Nov 2018
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  22. #62
    Wow. This seems to be heating up fast.

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    Thanks to whoever updated the thread title, at work can’t follow this too close for the next few hours, hope WW3 doesn’t kick off in the meantime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaithfulSkeptic View Post
    Wow. This seems to be heating up fast.
    On another thread, but the US-Mexico border is getting really jumpy really fast right now too...

    Hoping things dial back...not getting a great feeling about this...

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    RULE 1:
    THEY want you DEAD.


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    Quote Originally Posted by samus79 View Post
    Thanks to whoever updated the thread title, at work can’t follow this too close for the next few hours, hope WW3 doesn’t kick off in the meantime.
    I got it.

    Just PM a mod if you need an update.
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    If Russia wanted to they could re-occupy the Ukraine in about 72 hours before NATO could even decide what if anything to do about it.

    Edit....

    As a side note the markets are flighty anyway. Could be an old fashioned deathburger on order for tonight.
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    Ukrainian aircraft over Odessa... Actually, we're talking about sirens of war.
    dimpenews
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    Ουκρανικά πολεμικά πάνω από την Οδησσό...ουσιαστικά μιλάμε για σειρήνες πολέμου..
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    Russian SU-25 "Frogfoot" attack planes apparently near the backed up traffic at the Kerch Straight.



    #Bangladesh News 24 (#BreakingNews 24)
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    Ukraine says Russia seizes three of its ships in Black Sea http://twib.in/l/XE889AEnGa4A via @bdnews24 #news #breaking
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    English Lugansk
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    Порошенко поручил МИД проинформировать страны "большой семерки" и членов СБ ООН об агресси РФ в Керченском проливе
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    UA perm. rep. to UN: 'On instructions from
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    , we are immediately appealing to UNSC. Aggressor's insolent behaviour can be stopped only by combined coordinated efforts"
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    За дорученням Президента @poroshenko негайно звертаємося до Ради Безпеки ООН. Зухвалу поведінку агресора можна зупинити лише спільними скоординованими зусиллями! (link: https://twitter.com/yelchenkoun/stat...29771760009217) twitter.com/yelchenkoun/st…
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    Meanwhile in a parallel universe, "[RU MFA spox] Maria Zakharova called UA Navy actions in the Kerch Strait 'bandit methods'" - UA ships move via UA territorial waters to a UA port but Russia shoots at them and captures them = "UA bandit methods" acc to RU
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    Мария Захарова назвала бандитскими методами действия ВМС Украины в Керченском проливе:
    (link: http://go.tass.ru/gVzK) go.tass.ru/gVzK
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    Top RU propagandist Vladimir Volovyov 9hrs ago: "That's how wars begin" replying to RU news "New UA ships heading to Kerch Strait at top speed" (link: https://twitter.com/VRSoloviev/statu...59457034268672) twitter.com/VRSoloviev/sta…
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    Inforesists cites its anonymous source in
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    , "6 ppl wounded, 2 of them in serious condition"

    Атака России: 6 украинских военных ранены, двое в тяжелом состоянии
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    3:25 PM · Nov 25, 2018

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    Possible Russian agit-prop.

    RT has been rather quiet about this incident until now.

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    #Breaking #Ukraine #Crimea #Donbass #Kerch
    @RT_com journalist reports heavy artillery shelling by #Ukranian forces in #Donetsk, #Lugansk regions.
    [It's RT guyst so...].


    12:28 PM - 25 Nov 2018
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    #BREAKING: Inforesist cites sources at @DefenceU reports 6 Ukrainian sailors now wounded including 2 seriously wounded
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    Any other #EU / #US /
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    leaders awake?

    @FedericaMog

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    #KerchStrait #Ukraine #Russia #PutinAtWar
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    Strongly condemn #Russia’s move to physically block Kerch Strait & ramming of Ukrainian boat. Cannot be qualified differently than an act of agression & another blatant violation of international maritime law. Such actions undermine security of the whole region. @MFA_Ukraine
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    #Latvia joins #Lithuania in strongly condemning #Russia's violation of international law.

    #KerchBlockade #KerchStrait #PutinAtWar

    cc
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    Closely following alarming news from #Azov Sea, blockade of maritime traffic of #KerchStrait by Russia and attack against Ukrainian Navy are clear violations of international law and should be condemned by international community, Russia must take steps to deescalate situation
    3:19 PM · Nov 25, 2018

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    #BREAKING

    Ukrainian Naval Forces Press Command: "Six Ukrainian Sailors have been wounded in the naval battle with the Russian Navy.

    Berdyansk ship and Yana Kapu are currently being towed by the enemy's navy."
    "The most intriguing point for the historian is that where history and legend meet."

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    An alarm was declared in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the president is gathering an emergency meeting of the military office

    (link: https://dumskaya.net/news/po-odessko...rezide-092687/) dumskaya.net/news/po-odessk…
    3:43 PM · Nov 25, 2018

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    Some good advice...from the Kenny Rogers song, "The Gambler"...

    "You got to know when to hold 'em
    Know when to fold 'em
    Know when to walk away
    And know when to run..."
    You say "trigger-happy cowboy" as if it were a bad thing.

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    CONFIRMED: all Ukrainian naval vessels have departed bases and put out to sea


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