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    Can we combine these Uke threads?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Can we combine these Uke threads?
    That would be a total shit sandwich, both threads are pretty long. Mods can close this one if they want, the initial event that started it seems to have died down and now it’s going more towards land invasion.

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    Let's wait until we can address the performance issues.
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    Soon. So Putin can offer the Russian people the land of Chernozem soil on Jan.6th-their Christmas day-as a Christmas present.
    Doomer, not hearing diddly about 6th fleet taking the Azov cruise. Nothing, nada. May be masikrova.......(camoflage).
    But the saber rattling is REAL and ongoing. Won't say more but the situation room is a hip place to be these days.
    Was at the capitol last night-went by WH and Blair house. Parking lots slam full at 1am is odd....

    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    Hmm, any time predictions?

    Pre Christmas?
    Post Christmas?
    Between Christmas and New Years?


    I knew Trump making the neo con warmonger Bolton his National Security head was going to lead to war with Iran, Russia, China, Syria et al, and so it has.

    Trump just said what he said about Russia and the neo con warmongers to get elected. I voted for Trump cuz I thought Hellary the Shrew would have us at war with Russia in six months. The timing is off a little, but Trump is now full neo con warmonger mode. It just took another 18 months to do so.

    Seriously, this isn't going to end well, now that we are directly engaging Russian forces inside their historical, MULTI CENTURY NAVAL AND DEFENSE ZONES. The Romans called the Med, Mare Nostrum, or Our Sea. Well, the Russians regard the Black Sea as their bathtub, and they regard the Sea of Azov as their bathroom sink.
    After New Years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post
    Let's wait until we can address the performance issues.
    Sounds like a good plan, hopefully we can get the board issues sorted out in time for WW3 to kick off

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    Russian threat highest since 2014: Ukraine military chief

    Russian threat highest since 2014: Ukraine military chief
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    I thought this article interesting, by Ron Paul. MMJ

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50707.htm

    Trump Lost His Nerve

    Trump Foreign Policy: Doing the Same Thing and Expecting a Different Result

    By Ron Paul

    December 04, 2018 "Information Clearing House" -

    After a week of insisting that a meeting with Putin on the sidelines of the G20 meeting in Argentina was going to happen, President Trump at the last minute sent out a Tweet explaining that due to a Russia/Ukraine dispute in the Sea of Azov he would no longer be willing to meet his Russian counterpart.

    According to Trump, the meeting had to be cancelled because the Russians seized three Ukrainian naval vessels in Russian waters that refused to follow instructions from the Russian military. But as Pat Buchanan wrote in a recent column: how is this little dispute thousands of miles away any of our business?

    Unfortunately it is “our business” because of President Obama’s foolish idea to overthrow a democratically-elected, pro-Russia government in Ukraine in favor of what his Administration believed would be a “pro-Western” and “pro-NATO” replacement. In short, the Obama Administration did openly to Ukraine what his Democratic Party claims without proof the Russians did to the United States: meddled in a vote.

    US interventionism in Ukraine led to the 2014 coup and many dead Ukrainians. Crimea’s majority-Russian population held a referendum and decided to re-join Russia rather than remain in a “pro-West” Ukraine that immediately began discriminating against them. Why would anyone object to people opting out of abusive relationships?

    What is most disappointing about President Trump’s foreign policy is that it didn’t have to be this way. He ran on a platform of America first, ending foreign wars, NATO skepticism, and better relations with Russia. Americans voted for this policy. He had a mandate, a rejection of Obama’s destructive interventionism.

    But he lost his nerve.

    Instead of being the president who ships lethal weapons to the Ukrainian regime, instead of being the president who insists that Crimea remain in Ukraine, instead of being the president who continues policies the American people clearly rejected at the ballot box, Trump could have blamed the Ukraine/Russia mess on the failed Obama foreign policy and charted a very different course. What flag flies over Crimea is none of our business. We are not the policemen of the world and candidate Trump seemed to have understood that.

    But now Trump’s in a trap. He was foolish enough to believe that Beltway foreign policy “experts” have a clue about what really is American national interest. Just this week he told the Washington Post, in response to three US soldiers being killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan, that he has to keep US troops fighting in the longest war in US history because the “experts” tell him there is no alternative.

    He said, “virtually every expert that I have and speak to say if we don’t go there, they’re going to be fighting over here. And I’ve heard it over and over again.”

    That is the same bunkum the neocons sold us as they lied us into Iraq! We’ve got to fight Saddam over there or he’d soon be in our streets. These “experts” are worthless, yet for some reason President Trump cannot break free of them.

    Well here’s some unsolicited advice to the president: Listen to the people who elected you, who are tired of the US as the world’s police force. Let Ukraine and Russia work out their own problems. Give all your “experts” a pink slip and start over with a real pro-American foreign policy: non-interventionism.

    This article was originally published by "RonPaul Institute" -
    Copyright © 2018 by RonPaul Institute.

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    Great article Michiana MaJo. Unfortunately, the liberal medial and deep state control the narrative and most of the world accepts it, being comfortably numb to the truth or adequately distracted by the political bread and circuses created by the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiana MaJo View Post
    I thought this article interesting, by Ron Paul. MMJ

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50707.htm

    Trump Lost His Nerve

    Trump Foreign Policy: Doing the Same Thing and Expecting a Different Result

    By Ron Paul

    December 04, 2018 "Information Clearing House" -

    After a week of insisting that a meeting with Putin on the sidelines of the G20 meeting in Argentina was going to happen, President Trump at the last minute sent out a Tweet explaining that due to a Russia/Ukraine dispute in the Sea of Azov he would no longer be willing to meet his Russian counterpart.

    According to Trump, the meeting had to be cancelled because the Russians seized three Ukrainian naval vessels in Russian waters that refused to follow instructions from the Russian military. But as Pat Buchanan wrote in a recent column: how is this little dispute thousands of miles away any of our business?

    Unfortunately it is “our business” because of President Obama’s foolish idea to overthrow a democratically-elected, pro-Russia government in Ukraine in favor of what his Administration believed would be a “pro-Western” and “pro-NATO” replacement. In short, the Obama Administration did openly to Ukraine what his Democratic Party claims without proof the Russians did to the United States: meddled in a vote.

    US interventionism in Ukraine led to the 2014 coup and many dead Ukrainians. Crimea’s majority-Russian population held a referendum and decided to re-join Russia rather than remain in a “pro-West” Ukraine that immediately began discriminating against them. Why would anyone object to people opting out of abusive relationships?

    What is most disappointing about President Trump’s foreign policy is that it didn’t have to be this way. He ran on a platform of America first, ending foreign wars, NATO skepticism, and better relations with Russia. Americans voted for this policy. He had a mandate, a rejection of Obama’s destructive interventionism.

    But he lost his nerve.

    Instead of being the president who ships lethal weapons to the Ukrainian regime, instead of being the president who insists that Crimea remain in Ukraine, instead of being the president who continues policies the American people clearly rejected at the ballot box, Trump could have blamed the Ukraine/Russia mess on the failed Obama foreign policy and charted a very different course. What flag flies over Crimea is none of our business. We are not the policemen of the world and candidate Trump seemed to have understood that.

    But now Trump’s in a trap. He was foolish enough to believe that Beltway foreign policy “experts” have a clue about what really is American national interest. Just this week he told the Washington Post, in response to three US soldiers being killed by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan, that he has to keep US troops fighting in the longest war in US history because the “experts” tell him there is no alternative.

    He said, “virtually every expert that I have and speak to say if we don’t go there, they’re going to be fighting over here. And I’ve heard it over and over again.”

    That is the same bunkum the neocons sold us as they lied us into Iraq! We’ve got to fight Saddam over there or he’d soon be in our streets. These “experts” are worthless, yet for some reason President Trump cannot break free of them.

    Well here’s some unsolicited advice to the president: Listen to the people who elected you, who are tired of the US as the world’s police force. Let Ukraine and Russia work out their own problems. Give all your “experts” a pink slip and start over with a real pro-American foreign policy: non-interventionism.

    This article was originally published by "RonPaul Institute" -
    Copyright © 2018 by RonPaul Institute.
    Ron is missing the point that the Obama/Clinton cabal in weaponizing the DoJ and state security apparatuses pushed Trump into a corner before he even got sworn in, limiting what he could do. That a significant faction of the US political system would gamble with the potential of a nuclear "Guns of August" for domestic short term political gain is just as frightening IMHO as what's going on internationally...

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    #UPDATE: Ukrainian army has deployed airborne assault divisions to the Russian border https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtvI0WSW0AE7vgA.jpg

    https://defence-blog.com/news/ukrain...rder-line.html

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    Man, if this doesn't pop, we're going to be luckier than we probably deserve....

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    Statement by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg following conversations with President Aleksandar Vučić of Serbia, and Mr.Ramush Haradinaj of Kosovo Today, I called both President Vučić and Mr Haradinaj to brief them on the outcome of Wednesday's meeting of NATO Foreign Ministers on the Western Balkans. I underlined that both Belgrade and Pristina should show calm and restraint, and avoid any provocative statements or actions.With Mr. Haradinaj, I raised the plan to move ahead with the transformation of the Kosovo Security Force into an army. I stressed that such a move is ill-timed, goes against the advice of many NATO Allies, and can have negative repercussions on Kosovo's prospects for Euro-Atlantic integration. I reiterated that should the mandate of the Kosovo Security Force evolve, NATO will have to examine the level of our engagement with the Kosovo Security Force.‎

    I also spoke with President Vučić on the need to de-escalate current tensions. I reminded both that the EU-mediated dialogue between Belgrade and Pristina remains the only way to bring durable peace and stability to the region. NATO remains committed to the security and stability of Kosovo through our UN-mandated KFOR peacekeeping mission. https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_161447.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Man, if this doesn't pop, we're going to be luckier than we probably deserve....
    indeed

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    #UPDATE: Ukraine officially ends treaty of friendship between themselves and Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
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    #UPDATE: Ukraine officially ends treaty of friendship between themselves and Russia
    That's a definite step towards war.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
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    #UPDATE: Ukraine officially ends treaty of friendship between themselves and Russia
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
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    #UPDATE: Ukraine officially ends treaty of friendship between themselves and Russia
    Wait...so this means they were friends before this whole thing went down?

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    Ukraine foreign minister demands sailors' release by Russia MINSK, Belarus — The Ukrainian parliament on Thursday voted to withdraw from a wide-ranging treaty on friendship with Russia, the latest step in escalating tensions between the two neighbors.

    The Supreme Rada overwhelmingly supported a motion by President Petro Poroshenko not to prolong the treaty when it comes up for renewal in April. The camouflage-clad president on Thursday visited an air base to announce an upcoming dispatch of troops to the Russian border.

    The long-simmering conflict between Russia and Ukraine that started with Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014 spilled into the open on Nov. 25 when the Russian coast guard fired upon and seized three Ukrainian naval vessels and their crews. The seamen are still in Russian captivity.

    Ukraine's foreign minister on Thursday reiterated his country's call for the release and safe return of the 24 Ukrainian sailors.

    Pavlo Klimkin in a speech at the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe warned that since the Crimean annexation Russia has not pulled back but, on the contrary, has extended operations into the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov.

    With the Ukraine-Russia conflict at the top of the OSCE agenda, the EU's high representative Federica Mogherini on Thursday also called on Russia to release the Ukrainian ships and soldiers "without delay."

    Poroshenko responded to the standoff by introducing martial law for 30 days, something Ukraine hadn't done even after Crimea's annexation and amid large-scale fighting between Ukrainian forces and Russia-backed separatists in 2014-2015.

    As part of martial law, Ukraine has beefed up its forces on the border with Russia, called up reservists for training and barred entry to all Russian males aged between 16 and 60.

    Poroshenko in an opinion piece published in The New York Times on Thursday called on the West to respond to what he described as Russia's aggression by imposing additional sanctions on the Kremlin.

    "Our common task is not to allow Russia to spill its aggression into the Sea of Azov," he said. "While the West is speaking, Mr. Putin is acting. It is time to respond."

    Poroshenko on Thursday visited a military air base in the city of Zhytomyr where Ukraine's Air Assault Forces troops were preparing to leave for the locations on the border with Russia "in order to strengthen our defense capabilities and be ready to stop the aggressor without losing a second."

    The Ukrainian parliament on Thursday voted not to prolong the friendship treaty with Russia, which is up for renewal next April, and adopted a bill that unilaterally doubles the extent of Ukraine's territorial waters to 24 nautical miles.

    Ukrainian authorities say this will allow the coast guard and the navy to be more efficient in patrolling the area to prevent military threats and smuggling. The bill also allows Ukrainian border guards to open fire without warning on potential attackers.https://www.stripes.com/news/europe/...ke21j4.twitter

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    Large alert air defence exercise going on in Russian Western and Southern Military Districts. Reports of units moving and conducting simulated launches from many areas.

    Spotted 1st mention in this that it's an alert drill:

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    Pentagon: "Today, the United States and Allies conducted an extraordinary flight under the Open Skies Treaty. The timing of this flight is intended to reaffirm U.S. commitment to Ukraine and other partner nations."

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    Ukraine parliament gave authority for marine border guards to open fire without warning to protect sea areas.

    Russian outlets going bonkers.


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    I expect Russia to test this decision in the coming hours

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    Because of the extraordinary danger of the current moment, the Science and Security Board today moves the minute hand of the Doomsday Clock 30 seconds closer to catastrophe. It is now two minutes to midnight—the closest the Clock has ever been to Doomsday, and as close as it was in 1953, at the height of the Cold War.Jan 25, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NRbycO0O_k

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    The US has already sent a request to Turkey for US Navy ships to transit the straights into the Black Sea. The straights and passage are open to all countries but the requirement is 15 days notice. The US Navy sends frequent notices and then either doesn't send any ships, or sends fewer than the notice mentioned.
    Word is that at least one Areigh Burke destroyer, and possibly other naval assets will be going there to conduct exercises.

    Couple this with the news about the medium range missile treaty with Russia being unilaterally abrogated by us and things could get dicey.
    This treaty with Russia has been in effect for a while, but it unfortunately doesn't bind China, who has been doing a bang up job of producing a shit load of new IM range missiles. So Russia is now testing and producing them covertly and we will start doing the same overtly.
    The price for surrounding and encroaching on the Russian border after the USSR dissolved may likely be Russian based missiles in Cuba or Venezuela.
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    It's the same when you're stupid."

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    The air assault units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being redeployed to the most dangerous directions of the Ukrainian-Russian border. This was announced by President of Ukraine @poroshenko during a working visit to the Zhytomyr region. https://goo.gl/S7N7z1

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    Quote Originally Posted by samus79 View Post
    Wait...so this means they were friends before this whole thing went down?
    The treaty amounted to "Well, we're fighting now and mad at each other, but we should try to expect a reconciliation someday".

    Ending the treaty is essentially saying "Well, f*ck it."
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    I find it amazing in today's world, that we don't have hours of video about all the going on's over there.
    Repeal the 15th
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    Strategic Sentinel‏Verified account @StratSentinel · 1h1 hour ago

    Strategic Sentinel Retweeted Robert Hopkins

    US Flies #OpenSkies reconnaissance aircraft over #Ukraine

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    Aki Heikkinen‏ @akihheikkinen · 1h1 hour ago

    Government TV channel Russia -1 now parading "military experts" demanding the overthrow of Ukrainian government and any that would follow[/B].

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    Quote Originally Posted by samus79 View Post
    Wait...so this means they were friends before this whole thing went down?
    Yeah, like two guys sitting down to a friendly card game where everyone has one pistol on the table next to their money....and at least one more on their person....
    Last edited by Housecarl; 12-06-2018 at 01:33 PM. Reason: Smart phone auto corrwct strikes again....

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    Ron Paul is spot on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Yeah, like two guys sitting down to a friendly card game where everyone has one pistol on the table next to their money....and at least one more on their person....
    Yeah, and if the low level warfare, Crimea and the skirmish in the Kerch happened under a “friendship treaty”, I have a feeling things are going to get a whole lot more unfriendly, especially in light of Russia’s snap naval and army “drills” and all the troop movements going on right now.

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    Two Kalibr cruise missiles test fired from Barents Sea in last few days The cruise missiles that can strike deep in northern Europe were launched from both a submarine and a surface vessel.
    By Thomas Nilsen
    December 06, 2018
    While the U.S. and Russia continue to disagree about possible violations of the INF Treaty, the Northern Fleet test-fires two of the sea-based supersonic Kalibr cruise missiles.

    On Thursday, the press-service of the Northern Fleet informs about a 700 kilometer flight pattern by a Kalibr cruise missile launched from the frigate «Admiral Gorshkov» from a combat training area north of the Kola Peninsula. The missile successfully hit its target at the Chizha shooting range at Cap Kanin on the northern coast of the Arkhangelsk region.

    Earlier this week, the Northern Fleet could tell a similar story as a Kalibr cruise missile was launched from «Severodvinsk» - the first in service of the 4th generation nuclear-powered multi-purpose submarines of the Yasen-class.

    The sea-based version of the Kalibr is designed to combat enemy surface warships, submarines or targets on shore. The missile was actively used during the 2015 Syrian war when launched from both surface warships in the Caspian Sea and from submarines in the Mediterranean.

    Due to its long range, Russian submarines no longer have to sail south of the so-called Greenland-Iceland-UK Gap to launch missiles that could reach targets in Western Europe. With a range of more than 2,000 kilometers, targets all over Scandinavia could be hit from launches taking place in the Barents Sea, just outside the homeports of the Northern Fleet’s submarines.

    A 2017 analyses by Jane’s names the updated version of Kalibr cruise missile as a «game changer» and even suggest the missiles «bring strategic effect».https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/se...-last-few-days

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    Two Kalibr cruise missiles test fired from Barents Sea in last few days The cruise missiles that can strike deep in northern Europe were launched from both a submarine and a surface vessel.
    By Thomas Nilsen
    December 06, 2018
    While the U.S. and Russia continue to disagree about possible violations of the INF Treaty, the Northern Fleet test-fires two of the sea-based supersonic Kalibr cruise missiles.

    On Thursday, the press-service of the Northern Fleet informs about a 700 kilometer flight pattern by a Kalibr cruise missile launched from the frigate «Admiral Gorshkov» from a combat training area north of the Kola Peninsula. The missile successfully hit its target at the Chizha shooting range at Cap Kanin on the northern coast of the Arkhangelsk region.

    Earlier this week, the Northern Fleet could tell a similar story as a Kalibr cruise missile was launched from «Severodvinsk» - the first in service of the 4th generation nuclear-powered multi-purpose submarines of the Yasen-class.

    The sea-based version of the Kalibr is designed to combat enemy surface warships, submarines or targets on shore. The missile was actively used during the 2015 Syrian war when launched from both surface warships in the Caspian Sea and from submarines in the Mediterranean.

    Due to its long range, Russian submarines no longer have to sail south of the so-called Greenland-Iceland-UK Gap to launch missiles that could reach targets in Western Europe. With a range of more than 2,000 kilometers, targets all over Scandinavia could be hit from launches taking place in the Barents Sea, just outside the homeports of the Northern Fleet’s submarines.

    A 2017 analyses by Jane’s names the updated version of Kalibr cruise missile as a «game changer» and even suggest the missiles «bring strategic effect».https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/se...-last-few-days
    The same goes for launchers on trucks in Kaliningrade, Belorus or any nearby Russian territory....

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    From the Kiev Post this evening.................
    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-pol...-conflict.html

    MINSK – The incident in the Kerch Strait has become the “redline”, beyond which a full-scale military conflict could have started, Belarusian Foreign Minister Vladimir Makei said.

    “Following the incident in the Kerch Strait we approached an extremely dangerous line, that is, a full-scale conflict. It is a ‘redline’. ‘A point of no return’ is beyond it. We know perfectly well in history that this sort of incidents led to world wars in the past,” Makei said at a meeting of the OSCE Council of Foreign Ministers in Milan.

    The settlement of the Ukrainian crisis is a pivotal issue of security in Europe, the minister said. “Some are even saying that Donbas is a political issue in Europe. Unfortunately, recent events cause us a serious concern,” he said.

    Belarus will continue to make a great effort to facilitate the settlement of this crisis, in particular providing a venue for the Trilateral Contact Group talks in Minsk, Makei said. “We are ready to constructively join all serious scenarios of settling this conflict,” the foreign minister added.

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    4 Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    Gunners of the Southern Military District in North Ossetia executed field shooting during a field exit The gunners of the motorized rifle formation of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District (South-East Military District), stationed in North Ossetia, fired at the Tarskoye range.

    Previously, the artillery units were alerted and marched to the landfill. In the course of moving to the firing positions areas, military personnel used modern navigation equipment of command and control vehicles (CMU), which significantly reduced the time for calculating installations for combat shooting.

    During the execution of fire missions with live firing, the gunners destroyed command posts, communications centers and armored vehicles of the conventional enemy at distances of up to 15 km, and also carried out anti-fire maneuvers.

    Artillery reconnaissance units used unmanned aircraft systems to detect targets, adjust fire, and video fix the accuracy of shooting fire.

    The artillerymen conduct classes in accordance with the new methodology, within the framework of which they pass the input, intermediate and output control. After passing through all the stages of training, the gunners will take part in bilateral company tactical exercises with combat shooting stages.

    In total, more than 1,000 servicemen took part in the combat shooting of a motorized rifle formation, and about 250 units of weapons and military equipment, including Tornado-G multiple rocket launchers, were involved.https://function.mil.ru/news_page/co...2207147@egNews

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    Ukrainian naval ships to continue passing through Kerch Strait, otherwise Ukraine will lose Azov Sea - Poltorak Ukraine will continue sending its military ships through the Kerch Strait, Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak said, adding that the next such passage will happen when the country's Navy is ready for it.

    "When we are ready for the next passage to rotate our units, we will conduct these passages in compliance with all international norms and rules. By then, I think, international pressure on Russia will have made it clear to them that they fail to fulfill international obligations," Poltorak told the Priamy TV channel.

    Ukraine will not relinquish its right to pass through the Kerch Strait and be present in the Sea of Azov, the defense minister said.

    Otherwise, "it will mean that Russia has fully occupied the Sea of Azov and we will simply lose another territory," he said.

    "We cannot afford to let this happen," the minister said.https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/gene...medium=twitter

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    Ukraine says will send naval ships through Kerch Strait soon

    By Yuras Karmanau and Nataliya Vasilyeva, Associated Press
    MINSK, Belarus — December 7, 2018, 8:27 AM ET

    Ukraine's defense ministry warned Russia on Friday that it will soon send navy ships through the Kerch Strait where Russia fired on and seized three Ukrainian vessels two weeks ago.

    The announcement sets up another possible flashpoint in the long-simmering conflict between Russia and Ukraine that erupted in 2014 with Russia's annexation of the Crimean peninsula burst into the open on November 25 when Russian border guards opened fire on three Ukrainian navy vessels that were moving through the Kerch Strait near Crimea and seized the ships and their crews.

    Ukraine responded by introducing martial law for 30 days, a measure Kiev did not take even after Crimea's annexation and amid large-scale fighting between Ukrainian forces and Russia-backed separatists in 2014-2015.

    As part of martial law, Ukraine has beefed up its forces on the border with Russia and called up reservists for training.

    Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak told reporters on Friday that his country intends to send naval ships through the Kerch Strait soon, saying that "otherwise Russia will fully occupy the Sea of Azov."

    Ukraine has ports both on the Black Sea and on the Sea of Azov which are linked by the Kerch Strait that separates Crimea from Russia.

    More than 140 ships were stuck on both sides of the strait on Friday due to excessive checks and delays on the Russian side, the Ukrainian Border Guard Service said, accusing Russia of creating a bottleneck for Ukrainian ships and preventing them from passing.

    Speaking in Rome at a ministerial meeting of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov brushed off suggestions Russia could release or exchange the 24 Ukrainian seamen captured in last month's maritime confrontation. Lavrov said it was too early to speak about any offers of a prisoner swap until Russia's investigation of the incident is completed and the servicemen are put on trial for violating the Russian border.

    Lavrov also reacted to a suggestion by German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas to expand the OSCE monitoring mission to the Sea of Azov, saying that Russia "has no need" for any intermediaries or monitors in the area.

    Russian ombudswoman Tatyana Moskalkova told Russian news agencies on Friday that she visited three Ukrainian seamen who were injured in the incident and are being held in a Moscow prison hospital. Moskalkova said she spoke to the men and "got the impression" that the crew "were not aware that they were committing a crime."

    Meanwhile, a court in Crimea on Friday jailed for five days lawyer Emil Kurbedinov, who represents the commander of one of the Ukrainian ships. The court found Kurbedinov guilty of spreading extremist material in a social media post he made in 2013.

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    Vasilyeva reported from Moscow.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International...trait-59675276

  39. #759
    Aki Heikkinen‏ @akihheikkinen · 3h3 hours ago

    Aki Heikkinen Retweeted Brian Bonner

    "In general, the new law allows Ukrainian vessels to open fire without warning if they are themselves fired upon."

    And Russian outlets went bonkers yday cause this
    .

  40. #760
    Foreign Affairs‏Verified account @ForeignAffairs · 4h4 hours ago

    “If unchecked, Russian control of the Sea of Azov would set the stage for the nightmare scenario of amphibious landings to seize an overland corridor along the Ukrainian coastline connecting Russia with Crimea.”

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