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    One killed, 130 injured and hundreds arrested in French fuel tax protests - 12/4: Fuel Tax Rescinded!

    A protester has been killed and 47 others injured during roadblocks set up around France to demonstrate against rising fuel taxes, in a new challenge to embattled President Emmanuel Macron.

    The protester was killed when a driver caught in traffic accelerated in a panic at Pont-de-Beauvoisin, near Chambery, said Louis Laugier, the top state official in the eastern Savoie region.

    According to French media reports, the protesters reportedly knocked on her car as she tried to take her daughter to hospital. An investigation has been launched.

    Police said three of the 47 injured in separate incidents are in serious condition. Officials said 24 people have been detained and 17 held for questioning.

    The Interior Ministry said about 125,000 protesters were involved in 2,000 demonstrations around France.

    The ministry said security forces used tear gas in several places to unblock major routes, notably at the access road to the Mont Blanc tunnel where about 30 canisters were fired.

    Police at first held back protesters from advancing on Paris's Champs-Elysees, with police vans blocking them from moving down the famed avenue, but up to 200 people were later seen walking down the street, apparently heading towards the Elysee presidential palace.

    Protesters, wearing high-visibility vests and dubbing themselves the "yellow jackets", had pledged to target tollbooths, roundabouts and the bypass that rings Paris.

    The fluorescent vests must be kept in the vehicles of all French drivers in case of car trouble.

    The government sent in police to monitor tens of thousands of gathering points, some non-declared in advance and therefore illegal.

    The taxes are part of Mr Macron's strategy of weaning France off fossil fuels. Many drivers see them as emblematic of a presidency disconnected from day-to-day economic difficulties and serving the rich.

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    The cracks are becoming wider and we need to take note here of events there for lessons learned...

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    How dare they protest? That tax money is needed to support all those poor, destitute "refugees" (who are happily living better than they ever dreamed on the French people's dime)

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    Where is Robespierre when you need him?

    FORTE EST VINUM, FORTIOR EST REX, FORTIORES SUNT MULIERES:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zagdid View Post
    Where is Robespierre when you need him?
    Oh I'm sure there are more than a few of more than one stripe or another waiting in the wings....

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    Tensions flare up in #Paris
    #GiletsJaunes #BREAKING #UPDATE #giletsjaunes blocking #ChampsElysees #Paris

    1:14 video here. Just a wee bit of tear gas, scroll down a little:


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    Macron just needs to bring in that EU International Army he spouted about, when he denigrated Pres Trump's "nationalism".
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    France fuel protests: Police in Paris fire tear gasPolice in Paris have used tear gas and water cannon to disperse protesters demonstrating for a second weekend against rising fuel prices.

    Clashes broke out on the Champs-Elysées as protesters tried to get through a police security cordon around sensitive sites in the centre of the city.

    Several thousand demonstrators are estimated to have gathered and 3,000 police officers have been deployed.

    Organisers billed the latest protests as "act two" in their rolling campaign.

    Known as "yellow jackets" after their distinctive high-visibility attire, the protesters oppose an increase in fuel duty on diesel.

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    Demonstrators on the Champs-Elysées came up against metal barriers and a police-enforced perimeter designed to stop them reaching key buildings such as the prime minister's official residence.

    The authorities say that so far there is no sign the demonstrators have been able to enter unauthorised areas.Some demonstrators ripped up paving stones and threw firecrackers at police while shouting slogans calling for President Emmanuel Macron to resign.

    Interior Minister Christophe Castaner accused the demonstrators of being influenced by the leader of the far-right National Rally party, Marine Le Pen. But she accused him, on Twitter, of dishonesty.

    Mr Castaner put the number of people taking part across France at 23,000 by 11:00 (10:00 GMT) - much less than the first day of Yellow Jacket protests, which drew some 280,000 people a week ago.

    What lies behind the protesters' anger?
    The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s.

    World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

    The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.The president has blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

    In another sign of the tension sparked by the protests, a man was arrested on Friday in eastern France after threatening to blow himself up with a grenade unless he was granted a meeting with President Macron.

    The 45-year-old, wearing a yellow jacket, was confronted in a car wash in the town of Angers but surrendered to police after several hours of negotiations.

    Why wear yellow jackets?
    All drivers in France have to carry the jackets in their cars as part of safety equipment for use in a breakdown.

    Along with the familiar red florescent triangle which must be placed behind a broken-down vehicle on the side of a road, the high-visibility jacket - or "gilet jaune" - must be worn by the driver outside the car.

    Failure to wear the jacket after a breakdown or accident can result in a €135 (£120; $153) fine under a law introduced in 2008.

    Synonymous with driving, the jackets have now morphed into the uniform of the movement against higher fuel costs.Feeling ignored
    Analysis by Hugh Schofield, BBC News, Paris

    This is a protest from the social media age, which means there are no real leaders, no real demands and no-one is quite sure how many will turn up or where in Paris.

    They've been offered rallying-points by the Eiffel Tower and in two big squares in the east of Paris, but there are fears that without any focus, the protesters could break up into myriad small groups - much harder to manage especially if, as is far from impossible, trouble-makers try to join their ranks.The protest may be amorphous, but the anger is real enough.

    Its heartland is what's become known here as the France of the periphery: that is, the thousands of small towns across the country where people depend heavily on cars to get to work and to shop - and feel their values are ignored by the sophisticated rule makers of the capital.

    What happened last weekend?
    There were protests at more than 2,000 locations across France. Two people were killed and more than 600 injured.

    At least 50 people were also arrested, although most of the protests took place without incident.

    Several of the injuries and one of the fatalities came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

    The second death was that of a male demonstrator on a motorbike who collided with a lorry.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46328439

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    More gasoline tax protests. As a side note, the "live chat" with the video feed is so full of trolls as to be just about useless....

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    15 and here I thought,

    the French finally had enough of the globalist immigrant bullshit, and were rioting,and hunting down and killing a bunch of those worthless Islamic migrant trash,

    but it was over gas prices, uh, OK
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    Quote Originally Posted by cooter View Post
    the French finally had enough of the globalist immigrant bullshit, and were rioting,and hunting down and killing a bunch of those worthless Islamic migrant trash,

    but it was over gas prices, uh, OK
    Specifically a gas tax increase Macron put in place. You have to remember that taxes in Europe make high tax states like NJ, CA, NY, IL, look like cheap living....

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    Yes when ours was like 1.50 a gallon, there's was 4.00.

    ETA: it's probably on organic diesel which is even more expensive.

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    did they not know what they were getting when they voted this clown into office
    much as we did with zer0 and his I am going to kill coal stance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murt View Post
    did they not know what they were getting when they voted this clown into office
    much as we did with zer0 and his I am going to kill coal stance
    Well for starters imagine what their MSM has to be like and add the the additional political parties they have into that mix....

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    it's probably on organic diesel which is even more expensive.
    France uses only virgin cold-pressed diesel.
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    15 thats a new one on me,

    virgin cold-pressed diesel
    almost sounds like its olive oil,

    never heard anything of diesel being cold pressed, even the bio diesel bunch I used to know , never did such games,

    anyone care to fill me in, got my curiosity up,
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    It looks like there are dozens of Patty Wagon/Police vans on the boulevard in a haze of smoke. Don't see any protestors any longer.

    Arc de Triomphe? Police running, reflective yellow wearing protestors can be seen thru the smoke.

    Sirens, lots of sirens.
    Last edited by Old Gray Mare; 11-24-2018 at 11:11 AM.
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    Live video on Fox is showing bonfires down the street from the Arc de Triumph....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Live video on Fox is showing bonfires down the street from the Arc de Triumph....
    Link?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Gray Mare View Post
    Link?
    https://video.foxnews.com/v/59710563...#sp=show-clips this is just a video 1:52 seconds
    Last edited by danielboon; 11-24-2018 at 11:26 PM.

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    Protestors holding up French flag near Arch. Police fell back. It looks like only to be reinforced with significantly numbers of black uniformed LE. Protestors chanting. More smoke.

    It doesn't look like the press or video journalist are being at all hampered by police.
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    Violence on the Champs-Elysees: Christophe Castaner accuses Marine Le Pen and the ultradroite The Minister of the Interior has questioned this Saturday afternoon, the President of the National Gathering.
    The government is attacking Marine Le Pen. Interior Minister Christophe Castaner has accused the MP and President of the National Assembly of being the source of the presence of "seditious" in the demonstration of Yellow Vests on the Champs-Elysees Saturday morning. A rally that degenerated with clashes between law enforcement and thugs.





    The minister pointed out "a mobilization of the ultra-right" among the 5,000 demonstrators present on the famous avenue. According to him, the police forces had to "repel the seditious" who "responded to the call including Marine Le Pen and want to attack the institutions as they want to attack the parliamentarians of the majority" .

    The president of the RN was quick to respond. "I asked the government why he did not allow yellow vests to demonstrate on the Champs-Elysees," she wrote on his Twitter account."Today, Mr. Castaner uses this question to target me. It is shabby and dishonest to the image of the author of this manipulation politician ", she estimates on the social network. "I have obviously never called for any violence whatsoever," said LCI President of the National Gathering

    The Interior Minister was referring to a previous tweet by Marine Le Pen. On Friday, she wondered about "what justifies that the French people can not protest on the Champs-Elysees, where many other gatherings (World Cup, New Year ...) take place".Another figure of the opposition, the leader of France insubordinate Jean-Luc Mélenchon also attacked the Minister of the Interior. "Castaner would like the demonstration of Yellow Vests to be far-right and small. The truth is that it is the mass manifestation of the people. And that is the end for Castaner, "tweeted the deputy of Bouches-du-Rhone. http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/v...18-7952235.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooter View Post
    almost sounds like its olive oil,

    never heard anything of diesel being cold pressed, even the bio diesel bunch I used to know , never did such games,

    anyone care to fill me in, got my curiosity up,
    I think bw was just messing with us, cooter. It is funny though!

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    Good sized bonfire. French flag waving in front of it, police barricades being tossed on it.

    Looking at the protestors earlier some had black material covering the lower part of their faces. Not all, some. The protestors didn't look like your typical antifa, they looked to me like middle class everyday people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Gray Mare View Post
    Link?
    I was watching it on Cavuto Live on the TV and posting from my "smart phone"...

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    More flag wavers and someone shouting with a guitar. The police may be getting ready to move in. Most of the protestors look like they have fallen back and have formed a line back beyound the bonfire.

    The feed has switched back to the police at the arch the shouter/singer can be heard in the back ground. He's stopped? Now they are burning tents and portable awnings. Not looting or breaking shop windows that I can see.

    Police line moving up. Riot Police facing both directions in line. IMHO it doesn't look there is enough of them. Shouting in French. Whistles blowing. Looks like firemen with air tanks on their backs have joined them. Hooking up hoses to firetruck now.
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    Another fire has been set further down the street. Protestors are jumping up and down on metal barricades making noise. More smoke canisters being thrown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaryC View Post
    . . . it's probably on organic diesel which is even more expensive.
    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    France uses only virgin cold-pressed diesel.
    Quote Originally Posted by cooter View Post
    almost sounds like its olive oil,

    never heard anything of diesel being cold pressed, even the bio diesel bunch I used to know , never did such games,

    anyone care to fill me in, got my curiosity up,
    . . . he's pulling our legs . . .


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    Police moving forward toward fire. Shouting. Police line reforming in front of second fire. Looks ragged. Protestors have fallen farther back. Noise of metal being dragged in the back ground. Police are pulling metal barricades out of the edge of the first fire (still burning and large). Fire fighters haven't moved up yet. A line of Police vans is being moved up between the fires.

    Looks like yet another fire has been set further down the street.
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    Looks like the Police have moved past an only partially lite bonfire. Sirens in the background.
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    Police moving forward at a trot possibly to prevent another hastily assembled bonfire from being lite? More smoke. Loud siren. Looks like protesters have thinned out.

    Police now moving forward at steady walk. It's a long night in Paris. Wonder what the morning will bring? There was a long banner tied between trees a long the street earlier (in French) all I could make our was Marcon's name and the word: taxes.

    Looks like the protest is winding down.
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    The the french are catching on they have been had and their so called lected leader is a turn coat back stabbing hack.
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    Few yellow vests. Regular civilian traffic moving now. People walking on streets. Police are alert but don't look like they're looking to arrest anyone. Not seeing any new fires. No more sirens or whistles, occasional car horn.
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    Gas taxes are a tax on rural people, and are intended to force people into the cities
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    It has even spread into Belgium...

    Massive ‘anti-Macron’ protests now even spread to Belgium
    The man who wants to ‘unite’ Europe. Beleaguered President of France, Emmanuel Macron is quite possibly the least popular man in Europe.

    His ‘approval rating’ barely holding onto 25 per cent and now his own country is protesting him in one of the largest protests ever, the ‘Yellow Vests’ or ‘Hi-Viz’ protests which included an estimated 300,000 to one million people last weekend, are protesting throughout France.

    Those protests have now spilled into Belgium. The target of the protests against fuel prices and tax now include the big Total petrochemicals plant at Feluy in Wallonia.

    Masked individuals have also joined the protestors as the protests are not limited to a political party. There were roughly 40 people arrested, several vehicles were seized.

    The protest stopped traffic on the E19 motorway potentially requiring repairs to the motorway from the damage from the protest.

    Francophone broadcaster RTBF speaks of “war scenes” on Belgian soil. There were other blockades in Wallonia last night with around 150 lorries prevented from continuing on their way.

    The protests of people in yellow vests started in France on Saturday with 300,000 to one million people protesting throughout the country.

    The ‘Yellow Vest’ movement began on social media in October over a surge in fuel prices this year, particularly the price of diesel, with many blaming taxes implemented in recent years in France’s anti-pollution fight.
    https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/ma...ad-to-belgium/
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaryC View Post
    Yes when ours was like 1.50 a gallon, there's was 4.00.

    ETA: it's probably on organic diesel which is even more expensive.
    My math puts it at about $6.50 a gallon now. That takes all the fun out of going for a drive, but at least they get "free" healthcare.
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    So #Paris burns... This is what happens when you elect little girl boys to run a country. #France
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    Thought you'd like a few pictures. It's night now:


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    If this isn’t an argument for #Nationalism then I don’t know what is.

    Macron must tax his own people to satisfy the requirements of the Paris Climate Accord.

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