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    3 White Women Don't Need Your Saving

    https://townhall.com/columnists/alli...aving-n2535593

    White Women Don't Need Your Saving

    Allie Stuckey
    Posted: Nov 08, 2018 1:06 PM

    Republicans foiled Democrats’ dreams of a Senator O’Rourke, a Governor Gillum and a Governor Abrams, and, apparently, white women are to blame for it.

    One Twitter warrior deemed white women “footsoldiers of the patriarchy” for voting Republican, claiming that their decision is based on a desire to submit to their husbands. Jemele Hill, staff writer for The Atlantic, argued that white women are not “the face of feminism,” because they voted for Ted Cruz and, in 2016, for Donald Trump. A viral tweet listed Republicans for which white women voted in the midterms and concluded, “white women gonna white.”

    Don’t worry, though. The Women’s March is here to help us out: “There’s a lot of work to do, white women. A lot of learning. A lot of growing. We want to do it with you.”

    Phew! For a second there I thought we were going to have to continue navigating these scary political waters on our own. I’m so relieved to know that, instead of thinking for ourselves, we’ll have obscure liberal Twitter activists and Linda Sarsour guiding us. I’m hoping my tyrannical husband won’t be too upset with me for going against his commands. Last week he gave me an extra fifty cents in my allowance and told me to “buy something pretty,” so maybe he’ll be just as gracious when I tell him I’ve started forming my own opinions.

    The irony is, of course, rich. Leftist feminists, long-asserting the strength and independence of women, now argue that some women are so weak that they need to depend on liberals to tell them how to vote. They cannot fathom that we Republican “white women” may actually have different values than they do. It must be because we are “foot soldiers of the patriarchy.” (That’s newspeak for “self-hating idiots.”)

    When certain demographics vote majoritively for Democrats, those people are smart, brave, strong, important. Ninety-seven percent of black women voting for Abrams has nothing to do with identity politics or the belief in the false narrative that big government policies will benefit them. No, they’re wise. White women who vote for Republicans, though—they’re idiots.

    So much for judging people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin or their sex. I’m old enough to remember when this was considered racism and sexism. Today, on the left, it’s considered thoughtful analysis.

    The claim is that we are voting against our own interests. But this assumes our interests are liberal interests—abortion, closing the “gender pay gap,” gun control, etc. And they’re just not. We women who vote Republican do so because, in general, we believe in things like the Second Amendment, lower taxes and restrictions on killing the unborn. We are not oppressed. We’re just not progressive.

    For as much as feminists say they hate the patriarchy, they do a darn good job of patronizing women with whom they disagree. They are demeaning, self-righteous and condescending. They deemed women who supported Kavanaugh “gender traitors.” They called Susan Collins and other senators who voted “yes” on the now-justice “rape apologists.” They claimed women who voted for Trump did so because of “internal misogyny.” They think we’re pro-life because we want to set women back. They think, simply because we don’t align with their agenda, we’re controlled by men.

    These are the same people who completely ignore successful conservative women like Nikki Haley, Condoleezza Rice, or Carly Fiorina–not to mention the Republicans who ran in the midterms. Martha McSally, colonel in the Air Force, congresswoman and Arizona senatorial candidate certainly isn’t trying to repress women. The first female governor of Alabama, Kay Ivey, doesn’t seem to be relegating women to the kitchen. Young Kim, Congress’s first Korean-American representative, isn’t exactly a slave to the patriarchy. These women, though, just don’t fit the narrative.

    Progressive feminists fancy themselves rebellious disruptors, but it’s a fantasy. They’re mainstream, their platform is tired, their hypocrisy is predictable and their constant bullying of women on the other side of the aisle is nauseatingly unattractive. It is obviously the underrepresented, constantly shoved-aside conservative women who are really countercultural. It takes much more fortitude to stick to your values despite being condescended than it does to acquiesce to emotional manipulation and the leftist politics of guilt.

    They may never realize that it’s this very attitude repelling the women they so desperately want to “help.” Oh well. Better for us.
    “When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.” - Ronald Reagan

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    White women do need saving. Very much so.

    The Virtue of the West was a good channel on YouTube. I really liked Brei Fauchaux (spell) and Mark Collett (spell?). There were at least half a dozen other Conservative channels like that, with young people discussing how screwed up things have gotten, and finding a better path. Haven't seen much new recently, YouTube seems to have cracked down on most of it, but numerous people got the ball rolling.

    We are not going back.

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    My DW hasn't voted in a while, her choice, but the Kavanaugh debacle got her riled up, and she made up her mind to go vote, her choice.

    She was worried about it though, last time she voted it was paper ballots. I told her, it's not complicated, don't worry about it. If it took a genius, no one in the county would know how to do it.

    She asked me if she had trouble would I help her? I said no. That's what the poll workers are for.

    So off we go, she did just fine.

    So how did she vote? I don't know. It's a secret ballot. She is a white woman, but more importantly she is an adult, and makes up her own mind on things, and makes her own decisions.

    We've been married 42 years and she has made of lot of really great decisions. Beginning with the first one-me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaryC View Post
    My DW hasn't voted in a while, her choice, but the Kavanaugh debacle got her riled up, and she made up her mind to go vote, her choice.

    She was worried about it though, last time she voted it was paper ballots. I told her, it's not complicated, don't worry about it. If it took a genius, no one in the county would know how to do it.

    She asked me if she had trouble would I help her? I said no. That's what the poll workers are for.

    So off we go, she did just fine.

    So how did she vote? I don't know. It's a secret ballot. She is a white woman, but more importantly she is an adult, and makes up her own mind on things, and makes her own decisions.

    We've been married 42 years and she has made of lot of really great decisions. Beginning with the first one-me.
    LIKE Button Applied. It is good to hear things like this.
    No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaryC View Post
    My DW hasn't voted in a while, her choice, but the Kavanaugh debacle got her riled up, and she made up her mind to go vote, her choice.

    She was worried about it though, last time she voted it was paper ballots. I told her, it's not complicated, don't worry about it. If it took a genius, no one in the county would know how to do it.

    She asked me if she had trouble would I help her? I said no. That's what the poll workers are for.

    So off we go, she did just fine.

    So how did she vote? I don't know. It's a secret ballot. She is a white woman, but more importantly she is an adult, and makes up her own mind on things, and makes her own decisions.

    We've been married 42 years and she has made of lot of really great decisions. Beginning with the first one-me.

    Secret ballot or not, DW and I always discuss who we voted for and why. It's not a matter of me trying to "control" her - or vice-versa - but is a matter of sharing political and philosophical thinking. Secret ballots are a matter of public policy. There's no reason for that to be applied to private relationships.

    Best regards
    Doc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc1 View Post
    Secret ballot or not, DW and I always discuss who we voted for and why. It's not a matter of me trying to "control" her - or vice-versa - but is a matter of sharing political and philosophical thinking. Secret ballots are a matter of public policy. There's no reason for that to be applied to private relationships.

    Best regards
    Doc
    Yeah I don't have a problem with that, and we did discuss it, no problem. I know from discussions how she voted, but I didn't look over her shoulder and told her, press that X right there.

    I also discussed it with a friend, who said he was going to vote for McDaniels, which was fine with me, no problem, and he gave his reason for not voting for Hyde-Smith, life long dem. I told him, so was Trump, who he voted for.

    However my point was my white wife, is an adult, and she can make her own decisions, with, or without discussions.

    My cousin is a Rep. and sits in the dinning room and watches Fox, and his wife is a Dem and watches CNN in the living room. She is also an adult and makes up her own mind about things.

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    Personally I would love to turn the clock back to 1940's/1950's time frame..We had more choices and rights during that time frame than we do now..

    We could vote...We choose to work or stay at home without being belittled.. Men were men and women were women..

    With Hubbies career I have to be flexible.. At times I have had to run our home for months as if I was a single mother but that's life.. They were the "okay" times.. The best times are when he is home all the time and I feel like I can breathe..I have someone to count on when he is home..

    I guess that I am not considered good feminist material..

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonds
    I guess that I am not considered good feminist material..
    Me, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonds View Post
    Personally I would love to turn the clock back to 1940's/1950's time frame..We had more choices and rights during that time frame than we do now..

    We could vote...We choose to work or stay at home without being belittled.. Men were men and women were women..

    With Hubbies career I have to be flexible.. At times I have had to run our home for months as if I was a single mother but that's life.. They were the "okay" times.. The best times are when he is home all the time and I feel like I can breathe..I have someone to count on when he is home..

    I guess that I am not considered good feminist material..
    I am a natural loner, and probably would have remained a spinster even back in the '40's. That came with a stigma then, and comes with a stigma even now among the Alt-Right, but shrug...can't please everyone. No point in trying. Feminists and MGTOW's are pissy no matter what choices the rest of us make.

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    And the ones that do need saving, reject rescue.
    The wonder of our time isn’t how angry we are at politics and politicians; it’s how little we’ve done about it. - Fran Porretto
    -http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-wholly-rational-hatred.html

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    It's always a good thing when your opponent underestimates ya....

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    I was told over 50 years ago as a little tyke
    "white women will be the death of this country and this race"

    yeah, I knew and grew up around some tuff men and some real racist......
    not these namby pamby word calling racist of today,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faroe View Post
    I am a natural loner, and probably would have remained a spinster even back in the '40's. That came with a stigma then, and comes with a stigma even now among the Alt-Right, but shrug...can't please everyone. No point in trying. Feminists and MGTOW's are pissy no matter what choices the rest of us make.
    That is the one and only thing that should change..We should have a choice and that choice should be respected by all.. I just used the work/stay at home example because it pertains to my life..

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