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    Desantis. on his first day in office, gets to replace 3 of the 4 liberal judges on the Florida Supreme Court. That court will go from a 4 to 3 liberal majority to a 7 to 1 conservative majority.



    Now if Nelson can do the honorable thing and leave instead of asking for a recount we can get Scott up to the Senate where we will then have both Senators as Republicans.


    Republicans also continue to control both state houses.



    Also one of the amendments that was passed makes it almost impossible for our politicians to raise state taxes without 2/3 of both houses.
    We already have NO income tax.






    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/florida-man/

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    By Charles C. W. Cooke
    November 7, 2018 10:34 AM



    Republican gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis and his wife Casey react at his midterm election night party in Orlando, Fla., November 6, 2018. (Carlo Allegri/REUTERS) I suspect that few in the national press have yet grasped the scale of what happened in Florida last night. This midterm was a disaster for the Florida Democratic party on every conceivable level — a disaster with which Democrats here will be contending for years.



    In addition to sending Rick Scott to the Senate and Ron DeSantis to the governor’s mansion, to electing the Republican in every other statewide race, and to ensuring that Republicans continue to control both chambers of the legislature, Floridians voted “Yes” on Amendment 5, which inserts into the state constitution a requirement that any increase in taxes or fees must be (a) presented in a standalone bill, and (b) approved by two-thirds of the legislature. Given that the state has no income tax — and, indeed, that it has the lowest overall tax burden of any of the heavily populated states the combination of these results all but ensures that Florida will remain a low-tax, low-spending place for the foreseeable future.


    At the beginning of the night, Florida Democrats conceded grimly that if they lost this one they might as well pack up and go home. That sentiment was understandable. Going into the race, Senator Nelson remained the only statewide-elected Democrat — a position he’d been in since 2005. Now that he is gone, there are none. And the thing is, that’s not especially strange. At the presidential level, Florida remains a swing state. At the state level, it does not. Not really. By the end of Ron DeSantis’s first term, the GOP will have controlled the governor’s mansion for 24 straight years.


    To add insult to injury, DeSantis’s election guarantees radical change within the one institution in the state that had remained left-leaning: the state supreme court. At present, the court has a 4-3 “progressive” majority. On DeSantis’s first day in office, he will get to replace three of those four, thereby turning that into a 6-1 “conservative” majority.
    As our 0-for-3 former president once said, elections have consequences. The consequences in Florida are dramatic.
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    Thank God DeSantis won. I hope Gillum doesn't ask for a recount too, the governor race was also less than a percentage point difference. Question: do they automatically recount all the votes in FL when one party requests a recount of their race or only the race in question? If so, no need for Gillum to ask if Nelson does.


    Out of over 8 million votes there were only

    30,000 votes between Rick Scott and Bill Nelson

    51, 000 votes between DeSantis and Gillum

    HD

    ETA:

    I see Lilbitsnana posted this article on another thread that answers my question. The percentage difference between Gillum and DeSantis is 0.6 percent so does not trigger an automatic recount. Since there was no mention of a recount by request (vs automatic) in the article, I'm going to assume there is no ability to request one that is not automatic. Again, thanks be to God that it was just over the automatic recount level.

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/po...105-story.html
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    EXCERPT for relevancy:

    How close does a race have to be for an automatic recount?

    According to the Florida Division of Elections, a machine recount is conducted if the winning margin based on the unofficial vote tally is within half a percentage point — 0.5 percent — of the total votes cast.
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    On FOX this morning they said that Nelson changed his mind and he conceded. Also, I don't understand how DeSantis can just replace 3 Judges. I heard one is retiring in January, but the people of Florida vote on whether or not the Judges retain their seats. If DeSantis can just come in and replace them, why haven't the previous Governors done so. The Governor of Florida has been Republican for quite a while now.
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    Found the answer to my own question. Three of the Judges are retiring because they have reached mandatory retirement age.

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...e_new_justices

    The Florida Supreme Court has ruled that the state's next governor, not current Gov. Rick Scott, has the authority to choose justices for three seats that will come open in January.

    “The governor who is elected in the November 2018 general election has the sole authority to fill the vacancies,” assuming everything goes as planned, the court wrote in a brief order on Monday. “Governor Scott exceeded his authority by directing the Supreme Court Judicial Nominating Commission to submit its nominations to fill these vacancies by November 10, 2018.”

    The ruling may put to rest a debate that’s raged in Florida for nearly two years and included a prior trip to the state’s highest court. Three justices of the court—Barbara Pariente, Fred Lewis and Peggy Quince—will retire on Jan. 7, 2019, because of Florida’s mandatory retirement age. That’s the exact same moment when Scott, who is not running for re-election, turns over the state to a governor to be elected next month—most likely either Republican Ron DeSantis or Democrat Andrew Gillum.

    Scott, a Republican, had said at a December 2016 press conference that he would appoint the three new justices, who together could sway the political makeup of the seven-member court. Months later, the League of Women Voters Florida and Common Cause Florida petitioned the Florida Supreme Court for a writ of quo warranto preventing Scott from appointing the justices, arguing that the vacancies wouldn’t exist until Scott was no longer governor.

    The court dismissed that case as unripe in December 2017. But in September, Scott asked the government body that brings nominees to the governor for consideration, the Florida Supreme Court Judicial Nominating Committee, to submit nominations to fill the vacancies no later than Nov. 10. The League and Common Cause filed a new petition Sept. 20, arguing that the case had become ripe because Scott took action toward filling the vacancies.

    The Florida Supreme Court agreed Monday, saying that if the justices didn’t retire early and the new governor took office on time, Scott had no authority to fill the anticipated vacancies. Its order further noted that the 60-day period laid out by Florida law for making appointments doesn’t start until a governor with authority to make the appointments is in office.

    The court also ordered oral arguments on a separate but related issue: When can the judicial nominating committee certify its nominations? Certification brings a list of candidates to the governor, triggering the 60-day period during which the governor must choose a candidate. Scott had directed the committee to certify candidates by Nov. 10, but the court noted that the committee is an independent body that has no obligation to meet that deadline. It set oral arguments on the certification issue for Nov. 10.

    As a forthcoming article in the November issue of the ABA Journal notes, the dispute is highly political. The three departing justices are considered liberals, and the political orientation of their replacements could sway the balance of their seven-member court. Scott is a Republican who has repeatedly and publicly condemned what he calls “activist judges.” He has also been unusually active in stocking the judicial nominating committee with people friendly to his cause, repeatedly using his power under state law to reject nominees offered by the State Bar of Florida.

    “Right now, total control rests with Gov. Scott, and in a few cases, he’s appointed good judges,” former ABA President Talbot “Sandy” D’Alemberte, who practices law in Tallahassee, told the ABA Journal.

    Because that committee chooses judicial candidates, it’s not clear that the next governor will be able to choose someone Scott wouldn’t have chosen. D’Alemberte, who helped write the judicial nomination rules as a state legislator in the 1970s, says a new governor may not disregard the committee’s suggestions. The law only permits the governor to remove members for cause, and what constitutes “cause” has not been litigated.

    The campaigns of both Gillum and DeSantis released statements on the ruling, emphasizing the importance of the judicial nominations in the election, the Orlando Sentinel reported.
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    Might be time to move back to Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Might be time to move back to Florida.
    I wouldn't pack yet
    From what I heard Fla also voted to restore voting rights to felons --so next election may deliver much different results

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    IF there is still a democrat party... Let's wait and see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    Thank God DeSantis won. I hope Gillum doesn't ask for a recount too, the governor race was also less than a percentage point difference. Question: do they automatically recount all the votes in FL when one party requests a recount of their race or only the race in question? If so, no need for Gillum to ask if Nelson does.
    Seems like my optimism may have been premature.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...221342220.html
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    It’s not over yet: Gillum-DeSantis race for governor is likely headed to a recount

    By David Smiley And Elizabeth Koh
    November 08, 2018 02:15 PM
    Updated 1 hour 27 minutes ago

    The race for Florida governor appears headed for a recount, as Democrat Andrew Gillum continues to gain on Republican Ron DeSantis during the tallying of the final uncounted ballots cast in the midterm elections.

    Gillum, the outgoing mayor of Tallahassee, conceded the race Tuesday night before 11 p.m. after results appeared to show him too far behind his opponent to make up the difference. DeSantis, a former congressman, gave his victory speech shortly after.

    But thousands of votes remained untallied. And over the next 36 hours, the margins gradually shrank.

    As of 9 a.m., DeSantis’ lead was just 42,948 votes out of 8,189,305 ballots cast — equal to 0.52 percent of the vote. Concession speech or no, Florida law requires an automatic machine recount in any race where the margin of victory is within one half of one percentage point.
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    By 2 p.m., Gillum gained on DeSantis by another 4,441 votes, and now trails by only 0.47 percent.

    Thousands of ballots still remain uncounted, so it’s too soon to say whether a recount will indeed happen in the race for governor. Florida’s 67 elections supervisors must send their unofficial numbers to the state by 1 p.m. Saturday, and campaign volunteers were scrambled around the state Thursday as supervisors prepared to examine provisional ballots cast by voters with unresolved issues at their polling places.

    The Gillum campaign sent out an email to supporters Thursday afternoon urging those with provisional ballots to call their supervisor of elections offices before 5 p.m. to make sure their ballot was counted, and campaign spokeswoman Johanna Cervone said the campaign was prepared for a recount effort.

    “It has become clear there are many more uncounted ballots than was originally reported,” she said in a statement. “Our campaign, along with our attorney Barry Richard, is monitoring the situation closely and is ready for any outcome, including a state-mandated recount.”

    Gillum himself took to Facebook Live to address supporters, though he did not explicitly comment on if he thought the recount might result in his win: “In spite of the fact that we’re a little bit down in the numbers, we’re hopeful that every single vote will be counted in this race,” he said. “That way, all of us can walk away feeling extremely confident about what each and every one of us did to go out here and have our say in this election.”

    “I would be dishonest if I didn’t say this wasn’t hard,” he added. “This is extremely hard. But you know what, the fight for progress, the fight for change, the fight for what it is we want, it’s hard.”

    DeSantis, speaking briefly with reporters in Hialeah Gardens, said despite the potential recount process he was “looking forward to serving” in office.

    “I’m proud to have been elected on Tuesday night. It’s a great honor,” he said. “We’re working really hard on the transition. We’ll let the lawyers do what they got to do but we’re good.”

    The race for Agriculture Commissioner and U.S. Senate also appear headed for recounts, although those races are closer and will likely force the state to conduct recounts by hand, which is required when the margins between two candidates are within a quarter of a percent. In a stunning reversal of election night results, Democrat Nikki Fried appeared to pull ahead of Republican Matt Caldwell for the Agriculture Commissioner seat, prompting some Democrats to project her win.

    Voters have until 5 p.m. to address any outstanding problems with their provisional ballots.

    But all eyes were on Broward County, which according to information published by the Florida Division of Elections has yet to report all its early voting and absentee voting totals. Broward is a Democratic party stronghold.

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    double post, board is really slow for me.

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    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/f...-race-10896665
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    The Florida Governor's Race Will Now Likely Go to a Recount
    Jerry Iannelli | November 8, 2018 | 2:39pm

    Due to a combination of racism, Andrew Gillum's alleged involvement in an FBI investigation, the obvious suppression of 1.4 million formerly incarcerated people's votes, and a few other factors, Florida's major statewide races this year were remarkably close. The U.S. Senate race between Bill Nelson and Rick Scott is almost certainly headed to a manual recount.

    And now, two days after the election, the race between Gillum and Governor-Elect Ron DeSantis will almost certainly go to a recount as well. Under state law, elections must be machine-recounted if a candidate wins by less than 0.5 percent of the total vote. Just before 2:15 p.m., the state elections website updated to show that DeSantis led Gillum only 4,069,451 votes to 4,030,936. That's less than 0.5 percent.

    So, uh, did the Florida governor's race just fall below the 0.5 percent margin, triggering an automatic recount? https://t.co/W7aPfM5KMH pic.twitter.com/2xtcxEsGx1
    — Andrew Pantazi (@apantazi) November 8, 2018

    As New Times noted yesterday, the person in charge of handling such a recount is none other than Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner, a Scott appointee who has been repeatedly accused of hatching schemes to prevent young people, Democrats, and people of color from voting. Detzner today told employees in his office to prepare for a series of recounts and stated his office was "under a microscope" right now.

    Floridians have until 5 p.m. today to make sure any "provisional vote" they might have signed (due to mismatching signatures or IDs) is counted. In the meantime, a few remaining county elections supervisors are feverishly reviewing any vote-by-mail ballots they have not yet counted.

    The perpetually mismanaged elections office in Broward County, led by embattled Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes, is in the hot seat once again: Snipes, who was found to have violated federal law in 2016 by deleting ballots that were the subject of a lawsuit, now says she has no clue how many ballots might be left to count in Broward County. Folks who lived through the 2000 election are going into dissociative fugue states.

    In the meantime, Democratic Agricultural Commissioner candidate Nikki Fried has pulled ahead of seeming winner Matt Caldwell by just 582 votes. That race will also go to a recount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    Thank God DeSantis won. I hope Gillum doesn't ask for a recount too
    ANDREW GILLUM MAY RETRACT CONCESSION AS RECOUNT LOOMS IN FLORIDA GOVERNOR RACE

    Andrew Gillum may retract his concession in the Florida governor’s race.

    Gillum, the mayor of Tallahassee, conceded the race in a speech on Tuesday, after polls showed him down one percentage point to Republican Ron DeSantis, a former congressman who is close to President Donald Trump.

    But DeSantis’s vote margin dwindled on Wednesday as absentee and provisional ballots continued to be counted

    “On Tuesday night, the Gillum for Governor campaign operated with the best information available about the number of outstanding ballots left to count. Since that time, it has become clear there are many more uncounted ballots than was originally reported,” Gillum campaign spokeswoman Johanna Cervone said in a statement.

    “Our campaign, along with our attorney Barry Richard, is monitoring the situation closely and is ready for any outcome, including a state-mandated recount. Mayor Gillum started his campaign for the people, and we are committed to ensuring every single vote in Florida is counted.”

    Gillum trailed DeSantis by 43,000 votes on Thursday. According to the Orlando Sentinel, that is just 0.02 percentage points from the threshold that will trigger a machine recount.

    Florida’s Senate battle is even closer than the gubernatorial race. Gov. Rick Scott, a Republican, leads incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson by 22,000 votes in that contest.

    Nelson’s campaign hired veteran Democratic party attorney Marc Elias to oversee a vote recount.
    https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/08/a...ct-concession/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murt View Post
    I wouldn't pack yet
    From what I heard Fla also voted to restore voting rights to felons --so next election may deliver much different results
    How do felons tend to swing if/when they can vote?
    Is that a stupid question?
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    Ragnarok, or Terry, or any other Floridian,

    Does anyone know how many votes total are left uncounted? Is it even possible that there are 43,000 votes that Broward hasn't counted yet? If there aren't, then a recount should come up with the same result, with DeSantis winning but maybe by a tighter margin. If there are enough votes uncounted to change the race, time to take this to intense prayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profit of Doom View Post
    How do felons tend to swing if/when they can vote?
    Is that a stupid question?
    Democrat. Which is why this was pushed in the first place. FL is 50/50 right now, but the democrats are more actively trying to gain the upper hand. The republicans seem too complacent and have too much inertia to fight back.

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rub...feats-desantis

    Rubio warns of Dem lawyers 'descending on Florida' to 'try and steal' key statewide races

    Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio on Thursday charged that two Democrat-controlled counties in the state, in possible violation of election law, have been reporting a "slow drip" of tens of thousands of additional ballots favorable to several Democratic candidates for statewide office, including incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson.

    Liberal lawyers, Rubio said in an extraordinary series of tweets that alleged incompetence if not outright complicity by Florida officials, are "descending on" the state in a calculated attempt to "change the results" and "try and steal" races for Senate and agriculture commissioner.

    Rubio's explosive posts come as a recount now appears imminent in Florida's high-profile gubernatorial contest between Democrat Andrew Gillum and Republican Ron DeSantis, based on new vote totals -- even though Gillum has already conceded.

    "Florida law requires counties report early voting & vote-by-mail within 30 minutes after polls close," Rubio wrote on Twitter. "43 hours after polls closed 2 Democrat strongholds #BrowardCounty & #PalmBeachCounty are still counting & refusing to disclose how many ballots they have left to count."

    Florida statutes mandate that the "canvassing board shall report all early voting and all tabulated vote-by-mail results to the Department of State within 30 minutes after the polls close" and that "thereafter, the canvassing board shall report, with the exception of provisional ballot results, updated precinct election results to the department at least every 45 minutes until all results are completely reported."

    The state code continues, "The supervisor of elections shall notify the department immediately of any circumstances that do not permit periodic updates as required."

    Vote totals in several major races in the state are changing rapidly, on an irregular schedule and sometimes late into the evening. GOP Senate candidate Rick Scott, also Florida's governor, was ahead of Nelson by roughly one-fourth of one percentage point as of Thursday morning, according to The Tampa Bay Times. The paper also said the agriculture commissioner candidates were separated by only 0.06 points. That race flipped in favor of the Democratic candidate on Thursday afternoon.

    Broward County reported that significantly more votes were received in the agriculture commissioner contest than the much higher-profile Senate election. An attorney for Nelson's campaign suggested a computer error might explain that anomaly.

    In the closely watched gubernatorial race, DeSantis' held a narrow 0.52-percentage-point edge over Gillum as of Thursday morning, extremely close to the 0.5 percent threshold needed to trigger a machine recount. Gillum has conceded the race, although his decision is nonbinding.

    But by Thursday afternoon, unofficial figures had DeSantis up by just 38,515 votes out of the more than 8 million cast -- a lead of just 0.47 percent, low enough to trigger a mandatory recount, according to The Tallahassee Democrat. No recount has yet been announced by Florida's secretary of state, and the first unofficial count is expected to be verified Saturday by Florida's secretary of state.

    "On Tuesday night, the Gillum for Governor campaign operated with the best information available about the number of outstanding ballots left to count," Gillum's campaign said in a statement Thursday evening. "Since that time, it has become clear there are many more uncounted ballots than was originally reported. Our campaign, along with our attorney Barry Richard, is monitoring the situation closely and is ready for any outcome, including a state-mandated recount."

    Without providing legally sufficient justification, Rubio said, Democrat-controlled Broward and Palm Beach counties on Wednesday afternoon continued to report new ballots, cutting into Scott's already-thin lead and flipping the state's agriculture commissioner race to Democrats. Provisional ballots cast by voters without proper identification or at the wrong location are factoring into the late results, and Florida officials have rejected campaigns' requests for the identity of those voters, citing federal and state law.
    Andrew Gillum concedes Florida gubernatorial race

    Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher told Fox News that Palm Beach is still counting about 2,000 mail-in ballots where voters circled or highlighted (by drawing an arrow pointing at the candidate’s name) their choice, instead of filling in the appropriate bubbles.

    Under Florida law, the state elections department is allowed to determine voter intent. Bucher told Fox News that elections department staff is going through each of the 2,000 mail-in ballots, and where voter intent is determined, a worker is filling in a new ballot on behalf of the voter. Where voter intent cannot be determined, the ballot is sent to the canvassing board to undergo review.

    Elections officials are also reviewing 1,500 military and overseas ballots which are still being counted. Florida law allows military servicemembers to mail or fax ballots in. A provisional vote report is due in Tallahassee on Saturday by noon.

    GEORGIA DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE STACEY ABRAMS REFUSES TO CONCEDE

    "#Broward election supervisors ongoing violation of #Florida law requiring timely reporting isn’t just annoying incompetence," Rubio wrote. "It has opened the door for lawyers to come here & try to steal a seat in the U.S. Senate & Florida Cabinet."

    Broward county election officials did not immediately return Fox News' request for comment.

    Rubio added: "Now democrat lawyers are descending on #Florida. They have been very clear they aren’t here to make sure every vote is counted. - They are here to change the results of election; & - #Broward is where they plan to do it."

    Under Florida law, if the margin in any race hits 0.25 percent or lower, a manual recount of any ballots set aside from the machine recount will be ordered -- reminiscent of the scene in the 2000 presidential election, when the country was gripped by images of poll workers counting votes deciphering hanging chads by hand.

    The Supreme Court voted by a 7-2 majority that Florida's recount in that race violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution because each country and precinct adopted varying standards for how it would conduct the recount. By a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court ended the recount on other grounds.

    FOX NEWS HALFTIME REPORT: FLORIDA RACES ARE TIGHT, TIGHT, TIGHT

    Rubio made clear he has no confidence in the integrity of South Florida's election officials, suggesting a posssible GOP-led court challenge might be looming.

    "A U.S. Senate seat & a statewide cabinet officer are now potentially in the hands of an elections supervisor with a history of incompetence & of blatant violations of state & federal laws," he wrote, linking to a Miami Herald article describing several scandals that have gripped Broward County’s Elections Department.

    Earlier this year, a judge found that Broward Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes had illegally destroyed ballots in a 2016 congressional contest, leading the governor's office to assign election monitors to supervise her.

    “I think the problems are blown out of proportion,” Snipes said in October, in an interview with The Miami Herald. “Broward is nitpicked to the bone. Other places have the same problems, different problems. It’s just that they are not spotlighted like we are.”
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    Looks like this entire election is about to be flipped to, Gillum, Nelson, and cabinet changing from Republican to Demorat. Florida can not hold a clean election it seems. Boxes of ballots showing up after the election is closed. Another hanging chad election and once again it are the heavily blue counties of Broward and Palm Beach that throw in the monkey wrenches.
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    what a cluster - seems to me if the votes aren't "WHERE THERE SUPPOSED TO BE" when the election is over the votes in question get SHIT CANNED. how else would we possibly keep the ballot box from being stuffed?
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    Today, the Florida election is being stolen.

    Ballots are being manufactured and counted illegally behind closed doors with no witnesses.
    This will continue even though in direct violation of the law, until the democratic officials in those two counties manufacture enough votes to swing the Florida Governor and Senate race to the Democrats.

    The election supervisors in both those counties are currently violating Florida law and have done so in the past as well and have not been prosecuted. Governor Scott has just filed a law suit, but he should use his power as Governor of Florida and direct state police to arrest and detain the election teams in both of those counties as well as take possession of all ballots, but now even that won't do any good, because the ballot totals which were supposed to be turned in immediately after polls closed, have not been and the scum sucking liberal hacks have had 2 whole days to add thousands of ballots to the official ballots that were legally cast. There is now no way to determine with any certainty the number of legal ballots in those counties.

    Maybe it is time to give up on the whole idea of democratic elections.
    Is it time yet???
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    As a very pessimistic, conspiracy theorist/doomer/prepper,
    I always look for the absolute worse in everything.

    If something bad can happen it will,
    and something bad will happen, before something good.

    Yep, looks like my gut feelings were correct.

    Arizona gets a damocrap senator from their recount,
    Georgia gets a damocrap governor from their recount,
    and Florida gets a damocrap governor and senator,
    from their recount.

    Looks like the damocraps, were able to generate
    their blue wave after all.

    Why do we even go to the polls anymore, why?

    Please be safe everyone, and please arm up.

    AVOID THE GROID/GHOUL
    In honour of the brave Whites in South Africa,
    as they fight against their genocide.

    I pray for the White race in South Africa,
    with every prayer, and so should you,
    if you pray.

    Regards to all deplorables.

    Nowski
    "Read everything, listen to everyone, believe absolutely nothing,
    unless you can prove it with your own research." Milton William Cooper

    "Life is a glass, half empty, of spoiled milk, sitting in a bed of thorns." Nowski

  20. #20
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    Today, the Florida election is being stolen.

    more crap from the mob that can't accept the election results. what DID we expect when they have literally gotten away with completely disregard for the rule of law over the past decade? this won't end well. NOT AT ALL

    beginning to wonder if we'll make it till the first of the year without some very serious bullshit breaking loose.
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

    Raging Deplorable - we do NOT forget; we do NOT forgive; we are LEGION

  21. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    Today, the Florida election is being stolen.

    Ballots are being manufactured and counted illegally behind closed doors with no witnesses.
    This will continue even though in direct violation of the law, until the democratic officials in those two counties manufacture enough votes to swing the Florida Governor and Senate race to the Democrats.

    The election supervisors in both those counties are currently violating Florida law and have done so in the past as well and have not been prosecuted. Governor Scott has just filed a law suit, but he should use his power as Governor of Florida and direct state police to arrest and detain the election teams in both of those counties as well as take possession of all ballots, but now even that won't do any good, because the ballot totals which were supposed to be turned in immediately after polls closed, have not been and the scum sucking liberal hacks have had 2 whole days to add thousands of ballots to the official ballots that were legally cast. There is now no way to determine with any certainty the number of legal ballots in those counties.

    Maybe it is time to give up on the whole idea of democratic elections.
    Is it time yet???
    yup
    There are two types of people in this world.
    1) Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data

  22. #22
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    at some freaking point SOMEBODY has to draw the line. Atlanta is headed for serious trouble - I feel it in my bones and parts of FLORIDA are likely right behind them
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

    Raging Deplorable - we do NOT forget; we do NOT forgive; we are LEGION

  23. #23
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/gill...ally-reported/
    (fair use applies)


    Gillum Rescinds Concession: ‘Many More Uncounted Ballots Than Was Originally
    BY: Paul Crookston
    November 8, 2018 1:27 pm

    Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum (D.) conceded the Florida gubernatorial election Tuesday night, but his campaign is now rescinding that decision to allow more ballots to be counted.

    With 99 percent of precincts reporting, the ballot returns show Republican Ron DeSantis leading by about 0.6 percent, a wider margin than the 0.5 percent required to trigger a recount, but Gillum’s campaign claims there are more outstanding ballots than Gillum realized when he conceded.

    "On Tuesday night, the Gillum for Governor campaign operated with the best information available about the number of outstanding ballots left to count," Gillum campaign communication director Johanna Cervone said. "Since that time, it has become clear there are many more uncounted ballots than was originally reported."

    Cervone added that their lawyer is helping monitor the situation and every ballot will be counted.

    "Our campaign, along with our attorney Barry Richard, is monitoring the situation closely and is ready for any outcome, including a state-mandated recount. Mayor Gillum started his campaign for the people, and we are committed to ensuring every single vote in Florida is counted," he said.

    Gillum ran on a progressive agenda in Florida, a state that went for President Donald Trump and has had Republican governors for two decades. Enthusiasm from the media and left-wing icons like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) were apparently not enough to get him over the line, as the Associated Press and others called the election for DeSantis.

    Florida is no stranger to tight races and recounts, but Gillum’s decision not to concede appears to be a long shot. Sen. Bill Nelson (D.) is more likely to get a recount, however, since his deficit to Gov. Rick Scott (R.) in their Senate race is a mere 0.2 percent, small enough to trigger a recount.

    Gillum’s support among progressives motivated many, such as comedienne Kathy Griffin, to call for him to reverse his concession. Since there is no possibility of a runoff in Florida–which may be triggered in in some state's if no candidate obtains at least 50 percent of the vote–it is unlikely anything will prevent DeSantis from taking the governorship.

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