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    2 HIGHLY Recommed the book: CARRION COMFORT (1989) by Dan Simmons

    Hat-tip to DesertVet2 who recommended this book.

    It's touted as 'Horror' (and I think it's right up there with the Book of Revelation as far as being VERY scary), but I took it's premise to be a stunningly accurate outlook (and inward look) on humanity.

    History has shown us, you don't have to be an actual, living-dead, blood-sucking vampire in order to take 'control' of people's lives but Simmons has put this in such a form where the non-thinking would take this novel as a kind of Anne Rice prelude, but to those who THINK and PAY ATTENTION, this book is a blood-curdling look at humanity!

    More than once I visibly shivered, would put the book down and pray when I read passages such as....

    Saul had lectured on the "peculiar and perverse strain of modern violence and such books and movies as The Exorcist, The Omen, and innumerable imitations, going back to Rosemary's Baby. Saul had seen the rash of demonic-children entertainments as a symptom of deeper underlying fears and hatreds; the "me-generation's" inability to shift into the role of responsible parenthood at the cost of having their own interminable childhood, the transference of guilt from divorce- the child is not really a child, but an older evil thing, capable of deserving any abuse resulting from the adult's selfish actions- and the anger of an entire society, revolting after two decades of a culture dominated by and devoted to youthful looks, youth-oriented music, juvenile movies and television and movie myth of the adult-child inevitably wiser, calmer, and more 'with it' than the childish adults in the household. ...Child-fear and child-hatred becoming visible in popular shows and books had its irrational roots in common guilts, shared anxieties, and the universal angst of the age. He had warned that the national wave of abuse, neglect, and callousness towards children had its historical antecedents and that it would run its course...."[p 702]
    "To the frustrated, freedom from responsibility is more attractive than freedom from restraint" [p 707]
    For a Whopping 884-page book, written in 1989, it is an amazingly accurate picture of where we are at now, especially politically with bought-and-paid-for, bribed, and blackmailed politicians leading a group of sheep one way as another group is led the other way.

    It is morals lost and/or wrestled with, fears, and choosing - or NOT CHOOSING- to have choices.

    It is Game of thrones lingo mixed in with every political platitude we have ever heard. It is horrifically true and sad with glimmers of hope thrown in. It is a non-stop, page-turning, sobering horrific 'history' book AND look into the future. I think it should be REQUIRED READING!
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    I’m reading it too. I’m only on page 229. I found the human chess game terrifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eens View Post
    I’m reading it too. I’m only on page 229. I found the human chess game terrifying.
    Yup. OWNED...PAWNS....SHEEP!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by eens View Post
    I’m reading it too. I’m only on page 229. I found the human chess game terrifying.


    PLEASE PM me when you get done!! Would LOVE to hear your take! Oh, and I circled various paragraphs, statements that just sent chills up my spine. If YOU do that, we can compare notes.
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    I am pleased you are all "enjoying" the book.

    you will not be the same after finishing and reflecting, and that was the point.

    "I am so hungry, this will be the biggest feast ever....."

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    Ok. I usually highlight stuff but havent in this book...yet.

    Im already thinking Im going to have to reread it.

    I wish they made a movie of it. IF they stayed true to the book. Books are always better than the movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desertvet2 View Post
    I am pleased you are all "enjoying" the book.

    you will not be the same after finishing and reflecting, and that was the point.

    "I am so hungry, this will be the biggest feast ever....."

    "I had forgotten....monsters do not die....they must be killed."
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    If I ever win the lottery my plan includes funding for this to be made into a three part movie box set.

    the book should be required reading for all high school students, with an intense book review report and class discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    "I had forgotten....monsters do not die....they must be killed."
    YES! When I read that I remember thinking, SO TRUE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    "I had forgotten....monsters do not die....they must be killed."
    How do you kill them - if in reality they are immortals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertvet2 View Post
    If I ever win the lottery my plan includes funding for this to be made into a three part movie box set.
    They did that for Atlas Shrugged. I saw that in the theater and bought the dvds. It was too bad they couldnt get the same actors for all 3 parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coulter View Post
    How do you kill them - if in reality they are immortals?
    Shoot them in the head.
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    Wow, Amazon is listing used hardbacks starting at $85! Fortunately there's a paperback edition too.
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    -http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-wholly-rational-hatred.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    Wow, Amazon is listing used hardbacks starting at $85! Fortunately there's a paperback edition too.
    Bookfinder.com is the first place I go to get used books!

    In right hand column, used starting at $6.02 (that's shipping INCLUDED)
    https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?a...on%2520comfort
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    I thought I'd let you know that I haven't forgotten about this thread.

    I don't have much time to read every day but I am still reading it. I just don't know what to discuss here because everyone is at a different place or haven't started the book yet. I don't want to give away anything.
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    I've read all of Dan Simmons's books and have them all in hardback from library used book sales before they were deemed 'rare'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homestyle View Post
    I've read all of Dan Simmons's books and have them all in hardback from library used book sales before they were deemed 'rare'.
    Are they all dark like Carrion Comfort?
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    I have read it multiple times and weirdly enough, am in process of reading it again. I reccomended it to my daughter and a few others..they seem intimidated by the size of the book. It's hard to find people who read sometimes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    I have read it multiple times and weirdly enough, am in process of reading it again. I reccomended it to my daughter and a few others..they seem intimidated by the size of the book. It's hard to find people who read sometimes..
    I can see reading it more than once, there is so much in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    Yup. OWNED...PAWNS....SHEEP!!!
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    I googled "Carrion Comfort page 229 hman chess" and found a PDF of the book online. I downloaded it. I dont normally download anything due to virses etc..

    Anyway, another interesting book that gets in yor head is "A Canticle for Leibowitz"

    Some of the tech mentioned in the book is dated since it was written in the 1950's, but, like Atlas Shrugged the message is 100% spot on.

    Below is a review:

    Miller is best known for the only novel he published in his lifetime, “A Canticle for Leibowitz.” Composed of a trilogy of novellas that originally appeared in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction,_ _”Canticle,” which was released in 1959, has never been out of print, selling more than two million copies. While it hasn’t attracted the following enjoyed by “The Lord of the Rings” or even “Dune,” it remains a hugely influential book and a landmark of post-apocalyptic fiction. Along with Ray Bradbury’s “The Martian Chronicles,” “A Canticle for Leibowitz” was one of the first novels to escape from the science-fiction ghetto and become a staple of high-school reading lists. Its legacy can be seen in the works of Gene Wolfe, Margaret Atwood, and many other speculative-fiction authors who came after him, as well as in the current flood of end-of-the-world novels, TV shows, and movies.

    The book’s first novella, “Fiat Homo” (“Let there be Man”), is set at a monastery in the Utah desert some six hundred years after a nuclear holocaust known as the Flame Deluge. The war caused a backlash against learning and knowledge, called the Simplification, which wiped out almost all traces of civilization. Most of the people on earth are illiterate. Many are deformed by radiation. The monks who reside in the monastery are devoted to honoring the memory of Isaac Edward Leibowitz, a Jewish scientist at Los Alamos who was martyred for his efforts to safeguard scientific knowledge in the aftermath of the conflict. They collect and transcribe the “Leibowitz Memorabilia,” including shopping lists, technical documents, and circuit diagrams that they cannot even begin to understand. The protagonist of “Fiat Homo” is a bumbling but well-intentioned novice named Francis who, during a Lenten fast in the desert, accidentally discovers the fallout shelter Leibowitz used. This discovery results in Leibowitz’s elevation to sainthood. Francis makes the treacherous journey to New Rome to witness the canonization and is killed by mutant tribesmen on his way back to the abbey.

    The second novella, “Fiat Lux” (“Let there be Light”), takes place hundreds of years later, in the thirty-second century. Like most middle parts of trilogies, it is the least compelling—”the long belly of a dachshund, slung ... between two pairs of sturdy legs,” as Peter Matthiessen characterized the second volume of his Watson trilogy. After more than a millennium, mankind is on the cusp of emerging from the dark ages brought about by the Flame Deluge. Hostility is brewing among the city-states (Denver, Texarkana, Monterey) that have risen out of the former American nation. A prominent scientist named Thon Taddeo, a latter-day Newton or Einstein, visits the monastery to investigate its holdings. He is astonished to find that one of the monks has created a working electric light, which is powered by a sort of treadmill. Taddeo believes the Leibowitz Memorabilia will lead him to breakthroughs in his work, but the abbot refuses to let Taddeo take items from the library back to Texarkana. Meanwhile, the abbey narrowly avoids being used as a military base for an attack on Denver.

    The final part, “Fiat Voluntas Tua” (“Let Thy Will Be Done”), describes the beginning of another nuclear war, this time between the world’s two dominant powers, the Atlantic Confederacy and the Asian Coalition. It is the year 3781 and civilization has not only recovered but has developed beyond the level it was at in the mid-twentieth century. Nation-states once again have nuclear arsenals. Space travel between earth and distant colonies has become common. There is even a communication device in the abbey that is a combination of Google Translate and Google Voice. As the war begins, the abbot Dom Zerchi, instructs a group of monks to flee the earth for a colony near Alpha Centauri. They take the Leibowitz Memorabilia with them. After they depart, the abbey, which has stood for nearly two thousand years, is demolished by an atomic bomb. The abbot is crushed in the ruins. The final passages of the book are an eerie imagining of the Earth without mankind:

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