Check out the TB2K CHATROOM, open 24/7               Configuring Your Preferences for OPTIMAL Viewing
  To access our Email server, CLICK HERE

  If you are unfamiliar with the Guidelines for Posting on TB2K please read them.      ** LINKS PAGE **



*** Help Support TB2K ***
via mail, at TB2K Fund, P.O. Box 24, Coupland, TX, 78615
or


ILL IMM Growing Invasion Force - Over 10K - Overwhelms Mexican Authorities – Approximately 10,000 Now
+ Reply to Thread
Page 4 of 22 FirstFirst ... 2 3 4 5 6 14 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 160 of 849
  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    TERRIFIC CTH Comment!!!! Trump SHOULD DO THIS! It would be hilarious!!!

    Not Ideal says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    Yes. And if by some reason they make it in, Trump should relocate all to:

    The Hamptons
    New Canaan
    Upper West Side, NYC,
    Marin County, CA,
    Portland, OR
    Austin, TX,
    Chicago, Il,
    Provincetown, Mass
    Alexandria and Great Falls, Va

    The Obama Coalition was the wedding of the poor and liberal elites. If we are letting more poor people in, let the liberal elites deal with them. No one in these places votes MAGA anyway and they can deal with the consequences of their choices.
    You really think they would stay there ? From there they would swarm all over the country !!!

    THEY CANNOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY !!!
    Last edited by NoDandy; 10-22-2018 at 04:34 PM.
    "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

  2. #122
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Where hiking boots go to die
    Posts
    11,290
    Quote Originally Posted by NoDandy View Post
    You really think they would stay there. From there they would warm all over the country !!!

    THEY CANNOT BE ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY !!!
    No Dandy BE's Post was sarcasm. Those areas in Cape Cod, northern Va., etc. are relegated to the elitists or progressive liberal strongholds. All NIMBY. The only way would make their way into them would be as nannies or grounds keepers. The rest look like war zones so they'd be right at home.
    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

  3. #123
    Sky News Breaking

    Verified account

    @SkyNewsBreak
    15m15 minutes ago
    More
    President Donald Trump says he has alerted border patrol and the military that a migrant caravan travelling from Honduras through Mexico to the United States is a "national emergency https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak

  4. #124
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    'murKKa - FEMA region IV
    Posts
    8,170
    Quote Originally Posted by Doat View Post
    Two choices, stop them at the boarder or let them in. That's it. My bet they will be let in.
    to let them in is to commit national suicide - I'm hoping HfComms is right but it remains to be seen. having said that - SHOULD they arrive here ultimately they will receive all that they have been given in the past. we should consider this the beginning of the migrant invasion hoard 2.0 with Europe having been the first domino to fall. at that point you will truly be at the threshold of all that's been debated on this board concerning a ballistic CWII. look at Europe - then consider the armed populace and the attitudes of a great many here in CONUS and recognize that as self evident fact.
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

    Raging Deplorable - we do NOT forget; we do NOT forgive; we are LEGION

  5. #125

    4

    Trump Alerts Border Patrol, Military That Migrant Caravan is National EmergencyEarlier, Guatemala's migration agency confirmed that an additional 1,000 migrants crossed the border from Honduras on Sunday, joining the migrant caravan on the Mexican border.

    President Donald Trump said on Monday that he has put the American military and border patrol forces on high alert as a caravan of migrants hoping to gain asylum in the United States moves deeper into Mexico and closer to the US border.



    "Sadly, it looks like Mexico's Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!" Trump said in a Twitter post.

    US President Donald Trump reacted on Twitter, blaming Democrats for hampering attempts to alter immigration laws. Trump also said in a Twitter post that the United States would suspend or decrease assistance to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador after the governments of those countries failed to stop a large caravan of migrants from heading toward the US border.The number of migrants on the Mexican side of the Mexico-Guatemala border reached 2,000. Hundreds of migrants have reportedly applied for refugee status in Mexico in Ciudad Hidalgo.

    Honduran migrants board trucks sending them back to Honduras, after they crossed the border into Guatemala illegally in their bid to reach the U.S., in Agua Caliente, Guatemala October 17, 2018.

    Mexican authorities initially refused to allow the caravan entry from Guatemala, only processing the asylum requests of small groups, which were monitored by police units, and handing out a limited number of 45-day visitor permits.
    Earlier, Mexican authorities said that about 7,000 people, most of them from Honduras, had set out from an area near the Mexican-Guatemalan border for Tapachula in the Mexican state of Chiapas.

    Mexican federal police have monitored the caravan's progress from helicopters and have escorted it as well.

    US Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen noted that her agency was monitoring the group, and went so far as to suggest that the caravan could be a cover for the activity of transnational criminal organizations. https://sputniknews.com/us/201810221...grant-caravan/

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    Agree, go after the organization. As I posted on the other thread:

    While I want to see the invasion stopped as much as the rest of you, I do NOT want to see our military firing on innocent women and children. And I don't think the American public has a stomach for that either and it would be a disasterous public relations nightmare for President Trump.

    I think they should set controlled fires along the border. It's cheaper and faster than building a wall and no one can walk through a fire. The military can do that and control it. But please, no firing bullets on people and killing them. They are puppets of Soros and the communists who are trying to take down this country. Most of them don't understand the politics of this whole mess - they're given money to join the caravan and given all kinds of promises for when they get here. Most of them aren't expecting to lay down their lives and I don't think they'd continue if this was explained to them. And I don't believe it is. The only thing they're being told is what they need to hear to urge them on their march.

    HD
    The Anointed would hand over their fatted daughters and young sons to get scenes of US troops gunning down "refugees" on CNN International.
    "The misfortune of many is the consolation of fools" Ancient proverb

  7. #127
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Maidenhead
    Posts
    26,981

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKN_mKqPWnY&t=339s

    Video by ex-military and police officer about what is happening with this situation. A good video.

    R/T about 10 minutes.
    What is the lake of fire? What is it's purpose? Is the lake of fire eternal hell? Is there any hope of escape for those cast into this lake?
    http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html

  8. #128
    Spectre of a Liberal Patriot ��


    @LiberPatriot
    38m38 minutes ago
    More
    PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS MEXICO UNABLE TO STOP MIGRANT CARAVAN, CONTAINING 'UNKNOWN MIDDLE EASTERNERS', CALLS IT A 'NATIONAL EMERGENCY'.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Troke View Post
    The Anointed would hand over their fatted daughters and young sons to get scenes of US troops gunning down "refugees" on CNN International.
    sadly this could happen

  10. #130

    4


  11. #131
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    A Socialist State
    Posts
    20,900
    GOOD FIND on the comment Foothiller! I think it's spot-on!

    Quote Originally Posted by Foothiller View Post
    There's a nice write up over at Vox Day's site about this very topic as well as an interesting and insightful comment thread underneath.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/10/t...l#comment-form

    Here's one comment that I think summarizes the situation from a Christian point of view:

    e and swamp. And they see the plagues coming like Venezuela but are full of hate and unreason and have hardened hearts. They are doing violence. They won't let us go to worship our God in peace.

    The split is between Christendom wanting to restore a promised land under the Constitution, and they are 95% white Europeans. That covers the three pillars.

    On the other side is multiculturalism on steroids. Not the NYC ethnic neighborhoods where there are Irish, Italians, and others, but now the blacks, illegals, muslim refugees, LGBTQ. Also full socialism, and they won't leave neoChristendom alone, they want to place a boot on our face forever and demand we say we see 5 lights.

    There is no science or reason, just emotion and a hatred and willingness to do anything that would make Gengis Kahan and Torquemada blush. "Coexist" or else! Submit or else!

    It is a religion, and it was labeled long ago. Anti-Christ. Read what the Anti-Christ does in Revelation and Paul noted there are already many anti-Christs. That no man can buy or sell? That you have to pledge fealty by getting the mark of the beast? We are getting that. I don't think it is Armageddon, and we aren't going to be raptured.

    That is why Trump and the Midterms are so important. But more than that. We can't coexist with a group that explicitly wants to use violence and wants to destroy us and everything we hold dear. The Cucks and Churchians will try to remain on the fence as long as possible, but the left is going to force them off.

    What happened to some of the right (not even Nazis) at Charlottesville is happening to the alt-lite Proud Boys and Gavin McInnes. It will continue to spread.

    We are of Christ, but we must realize we are dealing with demon possessed people serving the shadow of Anti-Christ. You can't reason with demons. They have to go back - to Hell.
    Don't just go to church. BE THE CHURCH!

  12. #132
    A couple of thought, consider them 2 cents:

    On not voting if they are not stopped.

    Stopping these kinds of caravans, and illegal immigration are like no. 3 on the list of things I think Trump needs to take care of. However, NOT voting republican Nov. the 6th, would be a double vote for Dems, and FOR this caravan to continue. The Dems are going to vote FOR illegal immigration, and you not voting against them in the election, means they get another vote because yours is lacking. Instead of it being 1 Dem vote and 1 Rep vote, it will be 1 Dem vote, and 0 Rep., they win.

    This present crowd is not going to change the vote in the US Nov. 6th. Even if it were possible to move this caravan of 7,000 1600 miles in the next 14 days. You can talk buses, rides all you want but tracking the caravan is what counts, and it will become obvious as you track the caravan. They still have to get in, get placed, get at least a drivers license, and vote in 14 days. Then how much of an impact will 7,000 new votes make. If they combine it all in one district, it's one congressman, or one senator. If they spread them out, it dilutes their vote.

    Granted a continuation ad nauseum of illegals will eventually change the vote. And if you don't vote, Nov 6th for Republicans, it will happen faster.

    However, if the house or senate goes Dem. Nov 6th. then we are in real trouble, on several fronts, and this will be one of them. As favorable as Trump may be, he won't be able to get legislation through, to change immigration laws. And what we see now will only continue. Unless Trump does something militarily.

    In my opinion just about the only recourse Trump has now, what with Dem's and Rhino's in DC is the military, and not just providing backup for the Border Patrol, but by blocking the roads.


    As for the upkeep of the hoard:

    From what I have been reading it looks like Red Cross is providing food, and medical treatment. Along with locals also providing food. Unless some other agency comes in and starts picking up the slack, if they don't get 2000 calories each, at a minimum, that hoard will start having problems.

  13. #133
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    28,667
    IMO, this is starting to look like a huge diversion.

    Watch the other hand.


    ETA: The commie leadership (pelosi, schumer) has been unusually quiet about this event.

    I'm beginning to not take it at face value.


    ETA 2: They haven't been given marching orders on how to spin the invasion. Either way, they are suspiciously absent.
    Proud Infidel...............and Cracker

    Member: Nowski Brigade

    Deplorable


  14. #134
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    A Socialist State
    Posts
    20,900
    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    Well...we sure have a lot of nervous nellies on the board it appears who are already cowering in defeat. Learn from recent history when the deep state has put Trump into 'check' and many here were absolutely sure it was checkmate. Might I remind us of North Korea? A number of you had us into WWIII already. How about Syria? Same deal, ect.


    Growing Invasion Force Overwhelms Mexican Authorities

    Doesn't Mexico have an army? Is this not an invasion of Mexico as well? This is the October surprise of the deep state. Were you expecting one? I was. And I'm thankful it's playing out the way it is instead of a hack or something to take the markets down or the electrical or telecommunications infrastructure. The fact that they chose the migrant invasion is telling if this is all that they can do. Of course the optics are horrendous. If they make it thru the border the left will point out how weak and ineffective Trump is. If Trump resists them by force it will be front page news and leading every newscast on TV up to election night. The deep state has put Trump into a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario.

    So this time, is it check or checkmate? Many of you are sure it is checkmate and you must think you have a dope for a President. Might I kindly suggest we see how this pans out before we throw in the towel? Trump isn't stupid and the military that backed him and helped put him into power isn't stupid either. The deep state his played it's 'October surprise'. Question....do you think that Trump just might have an October surprise of his own? Watch and see and if nothing else let recent past history hold up your sagging arms and give you a little bit of courage. I think we'll see Trump's October surprise pretty soon. And regardless, there are more ways to disperse a crown than firing into them which is the optics many are convinced is going to happen. All he needs to do is to set up a few MI battalions with the sound cannons, heat guns and vomiting agents if he wants to do it openly. Stay tuned and trust the Pres. It's check and not checkmate IMO.
    I agree HFC! In fact I've been following 'The Plan' since Nov 2017. I know our white hats have EVERYTHING and have been listening in on the black hat's evil communications so,........POTUS, et al not only knew this was coming, but also know who is funding it.

    Nonetheless, news is news and it would not have been as 'dramatic' to post this story then say, "Trump has this all figured out. Stay calm." As you can see, not many would have believed me. PLUS I really do believe this helps us in the midterms...everyone seeing this mass of paid humanity, lurching toward our boarders, carrying their own flags....(SPIT!)

    Melodie puts a humanitarian spin to this disaster (God bless her), and they are humans but when you make a deal with the DARK SIDE, you end up being as evil as them with your complicity.
    Don't just go to church. BE THE CHURCH!

  15. #135
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    W. Central GA
    Posts
    2,848
    Trust the plan! It is all we have at this point. Q has been quiet for a reason. Can hardly wait to learn why
    Sherry in GA

    "If you knew who walked beside you at all times, on the path that you have chosen, you could never experience fear or doubt again." -- Wayne Dyer

  16. #136
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Location
    Panhandle
    Posts
    576
    Meanwhile at the northern border.....

    Chineese spies everywhere....... We have many, many INFILTRATORS allready in conus.

    It won't stop anytime soon, nor will we be going back to the 1950's

    This is the fourth turning,. You HAVE been prepping right?

  17. #137
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    SW VA
    Posts
    6,377
    Honduran's show respect for the migrant caravan by burning our American Flag in front of the embassy. Outrageous! Wrong! #SponsoredInvasion #StopTheCaravan #StopTheInvasion




    https://twitter.com/GUSMAR80/status/...m_success.html
    "Property must be sacred or liberty cannot exist"

  18. #138
    Well, so far Trump seems to understand the Latin American mentality pretty well - as I said first SHAME Mexico which he just did "ah poor Mexico it can't even control its own Southern Border" (which is true but any Latin American leader worth his machismo won't like that very much but it just may spur them on to trying to do something or at least look like they are).

    I was never saying just let everyone in; I'm just pointing out these are human beings that are being used not demons, animals or even soldiers (at least not most of them).

    If the Administration really does have information of Middle Eastern infiltration into this caravan (and I think ISIS did do that with the thongs of young men that walked into Europe, you don't need them all to be Jihadi's just sprinkle some in to get them into position) then it does provide all the military excuse he needs to man the border with the military.

    I'm not sure the exact rules of Posse Comitatus (Housecarl and others probably do) but I think there are exceptions for a real military emergency and the State Governors have to agree (or something like that).

    I don't think for a moment the administration is just going to back down on this one, on the other hand shooting down women, infants and small children would be the worst thing they could do.

    But there may be practical ways to make sure that doesn't happen and still keep the border close up to and including a total shutdown of the US Southern Border for as long as it takes for Mexico to agree to house, feeding and ultimately either accepting or deporting these people on THEIR side of the border.

    I'm betting that while the US would suffer from such a border closing Mexico would get the worst end of it as the US does have other ways to manage imports, epsecially if cargo ships were still allowed in but subject to inspection for illegal migrants.
    expatriate Californian living in rural Ireland with husband, dogs, horses. garden and many, many cats

  19. #139
    Send US special ops to track down march organizers and those funding it. Take care of business.

  20. #140
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    28,667
    Found this...


    Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer Tell Democrats: Ignore Migrant Caravan

    Democratic leaders are urging their party’s 2018 candidates to ignore migration issues even as the fast-growing caravan of migrants walks northwards through Mexico.


    On Sunday, media reports said the caravan has grown to 7,000 people — up from 3,000 last week — and more people are seeking to join the migration.

    On Saturday, the Democratic leaders declared “The president is desperate to change the subject from health care to immigration because he knows that health care is the number one issue Americans care about.” The statement from Rep. Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Chuck Schumer urged Democratic candidates to ignore public worries about the migration:

    Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and Republicans in Washington are making a mess of our health care system, causing premiums to increase and care to decrease while threatening to gut protections for pre-existing conditions. Democrats are focused like a laser on health care and will not be diverted.

    The Democratic leaders’ advice is likely to be embraced by Democrats and progressives, partly because health care is a top issue for Democratic partisans. But migration and economics are top issues for GOP-leaning voters.

    A September poll of 1,228 registered by Harvard-Harris asked respondents to choose their top three issues. Overall, healthcare was picked by 37 percent while immigration was picked by 33 percent as one of the most important issues. Thirty-four percent of independents picked healthcare while 29 percent picked immigration. Twenty-eight percent of moderates picked healthcare while 24 percent of moderates picked immigration as a top-three issue.

    But migration is also wrapped up in voters’ concerns about the national security and national security, which were the third-ranked and fourth-ranked priorities.

    On October 18, President Donald Trump said the election is about “Kavanaugh, the caravan, law and order, and common sense.” On Sunday evening, Trump Tweeted:

    The Democrats’ Saturday statement came as the migrants pushed their way into Mexico, amid passive resistance from the Mexican government and support from sympathetic Mexicans. Late on Sunday, the Associated Press reported:

    TAPACHULA, Mexico — A growing caravan of roughly 7,000 Central American immigrants continued its trek toward the United States on Sunday, blowing past Mexican police and immigration officials.

    Gerardo Hernandez, head of the civil protection agency in the municipality of Suchiate, Chiapas, said that as of Saturday night, 7,233 immigrants had been registered at a shelter in Ciudad Hidalgo.
    The group formed an imposing bloc as it began to march Sunday. Many Mexicans who live in the area lined the highway, handing out free clothes, sandwiches and bottles of water while cheering the caravan on.

    On Sunday, reporters said that more Hondurans want to join the caravan:

    Most of the migrants are eager for low-wage jobs, but many are also looking for healthcare, schools, and welfare from U.S. taxpayers. Their goals are a boon to U.S. employers, renters, and retailers, for government aid workers and education officials, and also for elite progressives who wish to display their preference for distant peoples over their fellow nationals.

    But the migrants’ goals are an economic burden for blue-collar and white-collar Americans whose wages, federal aid, and education resources will be diverted to aid the migrants.

    The migrants expect to cross the border because many of their relatives have already exploited the catch-and-release loopholes to walk past U.S. border guards and into U.S. jobs. The primary loophole is the 2015 Flores decision, which requires migrants who bring a child to be released before the judicial process ha time to order their deportation.

    Throughout 2017 and 2018, Democrats and business-first Republicans in Congress have refused Trump’s pressure to close the loopholes, build a border wall, and fund larger detention centers. They have not even tried to impose penalties on the American companies which fund the migration by hiring the migrants so they can pay their debts to the cartel-affiliated coyotes.

    Overall, the Washington-enabled flow of illegal migrants and legal immigrants shifts wealth from young people towards older people by flooding the market with cheap white-collar and blue-collar foreign labor.

    That flood of outside labor spikes profits and Wall Street values by cutting salaries for manual and skilled labor offered by blue-collar and white-collar employees. The policy also drives up real estate prices, widens wealth-gaps, reduces high-tech investment, increases state and local tax burdens, hurts kids’ schools and college education, pushes Americans away from high-tech careers, and sidelines at least 5 million marginalized Americans and their families, including many who are now struggling with opioid addictions.

    Immigration also pulls investment and wealth away from heartland states because coastal investors can more easily hire and supervise the large immigrant populations living in the coastal states.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...grant-caravan/
    Proud Infidel...............and Cracker

    Member: Nowski Brigade

    Deplorable


  21. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    No matter how one "feels" what HD said is also applicable on this point as well; the US public isn't ready to see the military fire on and kill women and infants and you know darn good and well that those are the folks that will be in the front of the lines.

    That would be the fastest way to see Trump out of office (by any of several methods I can think of) and the Republicans in shambles; it would be a perfect "gift" to the left which may be part of the "agenda here" (as in if we push things that far then we can still "win").

    A much better "solution" would be for the Trump Administration to hold their nose and WORK with Mexico and agree to partly fund giant refugee Camps that these people are housed in - the Mexican Southern Border would have been best but since they don't seem capable of enforcing their own Southern Border (a point that Trump can shame them with a bit) it could be closer to the US.

    But it is NOT INSIDE the US - THEN let the US military patrol the border, people (and families) have the option of sitting in the US/Mexico joint refugee camp where they can apply (and will probably be denied) residency in the US but might get it in Mexico.

    Their choices will be live in a tent for years and probably be deported or sent back home eventually and/or go home voluntarily.

    This also avoids the entire problem of taking children away to foster homes or huge child detention centers in the US, it keeps people on the Mexican side of the border and lowers the sympathy factor for people that the military catches trying to get through to the US anyway.

    Then EVERYONE caught coming across illegal is simply shipped back to Mexico to the refugee camps.

    Mexico agrees to take these people into their came regardless of their lack of paperwork or country of origin.

    Now a version of THAT might be a solution worth at least attempting, the US military shooting down women and children will not get the result most people here wish to see; I can pretty much guarentee that.
    I did not say fire on "innocent" women and children.
    Let me clarify - Use the military to cut the head off the snake. WHomever is sending these people needs to go down hard.

    We are in a pincer between a domestic (communist) enemy and an invading force. Both are being steered by the same entity.

    I took an Oath when I enlisted. I am a 100% disabled combat vet. I am also a woman. If this military operation does not happen ASAP and the invaders cross my property, it is now my problem. I live in South Texas, close enough to the border that this is a real issue to me.
    No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson

    Mo is my One.

  22. #142
    Both Fox Radio and AP are now reporting a second "invasion force" is forming in Honduras and hope to meet up with the first "invasion force" before reaching the US border.

  23. #143
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Where hiking boots go to die
    Posts
    11,290
    Some how I think President Trump will turn this caravan to his and the US's advantage, making the Dems and the elites look bad in the process.
    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it. - Mark Twain

  24. #144
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Maidenhead
    Posts
    26,981
    Quote Originally Posted by Altura Ct. View Post
    Honduran's show respect for the migrant caravan by burning our American Flag in front of the embassy. Outrageous! Wrong! #SponsoredInvasion #StopTheCaravan #StopTheInvasion
    And yet....these poor Honduran's are fleeing their country and the oppression therein to flee to American where they can be free and they are burning the American flag? These are not all poor refugees fleeing oppression as I think we all realize.
    What is the lake of fire? What is it's purpose? Is the lake of fire eternal hell? Is there any hope of escape for those cast into this lake?
    http://bible-truths.com/lake1.html

  25. #145
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Posts
    13,097
    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    IMO, this is starting to look like a huge diversion.

    Watch the other hand.


    ETA: The commie leadership (pelosi, schumer) has been unusually quiet about this event.

    I'm beginning to not take it at face value.


    ETA 2: They haven't been given marching orders on how to spin the invasion. Either way, they are suspiciously absent.
    It's not really a diversion when the event itself is as dangerous as whatever it is they're trying to hide. That's still an invading army heading directly for us, even if they're unarmed.

  26. #146
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Happy on the mountain
    Posts
    62,434
    The wonder of our time isn’t how angry we are at politics and politicians; it’s how little we’ve done about it. - Fran Porretto
    -http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-wholly-rational-hatred.html

  27. #147
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Last place I want to be when TSHTF
    Posts
    1,301
    Shoot all adult males that cross into the US

  28. #148
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    OK
    Posts
    28,667
    Quote Originally Posted by Blacknarwhal View Post
    It's not really a diversion when the event itself is as dangerous as whatever it is they're trying to hide. That's still an invading army heading directly for us, even if they're unarmed.
    Military diversions generally have an objective, otherwise it would immediately be recognized as a head fake.

    Not saying this invasion force is a total ruse.

    I just don't think it is all they have planned.



    Starting to get the heebie-jeebies about things....something don't smell right.

    Gut feelings and all that.
    Proud Infidel...............and Cracker

    Member: Nowski Brigade

    Deplorable


  29. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker22 View Post
    I did not say fire on "innocent" women and children.
    Let me clarify - Use the military to cut the head off the snake. WHomever is sending these people needs to go down hard.

    We are in a pincer between a domestic (communist) enemy and an invading force. Both are being steered by the same entity.

    I took an Oath when I enlisted. I am a 100% disabled combat vet. I am also a woman. If this military operation does not happen ASAP and the invaders cross my property, it is now my problem. I live in South Texas, close enough to the border that this is a real issue to me.
    Understood, I was mostly responding to the Op-ed that was reprinted suggesting the people being used in these caravans were demons, the road to war crimes (as you surely know) is paved by picking a scapegoat and making them no longer human.

    I have my doubts about the "humanity" of the people sponsoring this march and paying for it (and no Nancy I don't think it is the Trump Administration) but not of the Campesinos being promised a job and a better life (as well as probably being paid right now) to start walking.

    I've lived in South America and much of my undergraduate history program was centered on Latin American history and politics; the people in Central America especially Honduras and Guatemala are extremely easy to manipulate because for over 100 years their mono-economies have encouraged dependence on one or two large and foreign employers; when the multinationals move out they are left with nothing, not even the homes they rented or the garden plots they tended because they all belonged to the former employer.

    Both Honduras and Guatemala have also been racked by nearly constant civil wars, militia fighting, repressive governments, military juntas and the indigenous populations in the mountains have tended to suffer the worst (as they tend to be looked down on by their neighbors who are also poor, but not "that" poor).

    There are also now, areas of Mexico that have met a similar fate (the line between Cartel and Militia group/Revolutionaries is not always a clear one) with all three countries (five if you count Colombia and Nicaragua) that have pretty much REAL "no go" zones where the local gangs (whatever they call themselves) rule and the governments (and their militaries) are far-far away.

    So some of these folks walking probably have been displaced and have nowhere to go, they probably do feel they have little or nothing left to lose and if someone wants to pay them to start walking they will.

    I'm sure it also suits the local "governments" (both official and thugs) to drain off a certain portion of their civilian populations just to "get them out of the way," a sort of "not my problem anymore," reaction.

    Again, by shaming Mexico Trump is starting out right, there isn't an easy answer but I don't think the Republicans are doing this to themselves (or at least Trump isn't).

    Edited as I should have added frequent natural disasters like hurricanes, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions to the lists of things that easily displace people in Central America and can leave people totally destitute and easy to use or manipulate.
    expatriate Californian living in rural Ireland with husband, dogs, horses. garden and many, many cats

  30. #150
    Join Date
    Jun 2018
    Location
    Mississippi
    Posts
    822
    Been sitting here catching up on the thread, and now, I've just got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. A feeling that our country is in trouble with no way out.

    Trump is in between a rock and hard place. At this point, what he will do is only speculation. Reality will be here soon enough.

  31. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBreeze View Post
    Been sitting here catching up on the thread, and now, I've just got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. A feeling that our country is in trouble with no way out.

    Trump is in between a rock and hard place. At this point, what he will do is only speculation. Reality will be here soon enough.
    Same here. Ditto this, every word.

    I’m very worried about this one.
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding,
    acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will direct your path.

  32. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Military diversions generally have an objective, otherwise it would immediately be recognized as a head fake.

    Not saying this invasion force is a total ruse.

    I just don't think it is all they have planned.



    Starting to get the heebie-jeebies about things....something don't smell right.

    Gut feelings and all that.

    Completely agree. The closer they get and it gets to election day I really wonder what the deal is going to be. Wonder if patriots in AZ & NM are going to step up if needed to quell this.

    I also agree DT is in a tough spot. He can't go completely Trump until 11/7, even then, no matter what he does is going to be deemed wrong. I have a feeling that if this is handled the way it ought to be it'll be the nail in the coffin for DT in '20.
    Repeal the 15th
    Rewrite the 14th
    Molon Labe
    We Must Secure the Existance of Our People and a Future for White Children
    Make America Confederate Again

  33. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Military diversions generally have an objective, otherwise it would immediately be recognized as a head fake.

    Not saying this invasion force is a total ruse.

    I just don't think it is all they have planned.



    Starting to get the heebie-jeebies about things....something don't smell right.

    Gut feelings and all that.
    Totally agree. Nervous, heebies is the right way to put it.


    If they actually DO get to the border I can’t fathom any way out of this except ugliness.
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding,
    acknowledge Him in all your ways and He will direct your path.

  34. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Understood, I was mostly responding to the Op-ed that was reprinted suggesting the people being used in these caravans were demons, the road to war crimes (as you surely know) is paved by picking a scapegoat and making them no longer human.

    I have my doubts about the "humanity" of the people sponsoring this march and paying for it (and no Nancy I don't think it is the Trump Administration) but not of the Campesinos being promised a job and a better life (as well as probably being paid right now) to start walking.

    I've lived in South America and much of my undergraduate history program was centered on Latin American history and politics; the people in Central America especially Honduras and Guatemala are extremely easy to manipulate because for over 100 years their mono-economies have encouraged dependence on one or two large and foreign employers; when the multinationals move out they are left with nothing, not even the homes they rented or the garden plots they tended because they all belonged to the former employer.

    Both Honduras and Guatemala have also been racked by nearly constant civil wars, militia fighting, repressive governments, military juntas and the indigenous populations in the mountains have tended to suffer the worst (as they tend to be looked down on by their neighbors who are also poor, but not "that" poor).

    There are also now, areas of Mexico that have met a similar fate (the line between Cartel and Militia group/Revolutionaries is not always a clear one) with all three countries (five if you count Colombia and Nicaragua) that have pretty much REAL "no go" zones where the local gangs (whatever they call themselves) rule and the governments (and their militaries) are far-far away.

    So some of these folks walking probably have been displaced and have nowhere to go, they probably do feel they have little or nothing left to lose and if someone wants to pay them to start walking they will.

    I'm sure it also suits the local "governments" (both official and thugs) to drain off a certain portion of their civilian populations just to "get them out of the way," a sort of "not my problem anymore," reaction.

    Again, by shaming Mexico Trump is starting out right, there isn't an easy answer but I don't think the Republicans are doing this to themselves (or at least Trump isn't).

    Edited as I should have added frequent natural disasters like hurricanes, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions to the lists of things that easily displace people in Central America and can leave people totally destitute and easy to use or manipulate.
    My degree was in Cultural Geography and Earth Processes (Geology) so that is how I look at things.
    The truly sad part is that if the science is correct, as I believe that it is- all these displaced persons would fair far better where they are, rather than migrating north, right into the teeth of a Little Ice Age.

    This invasion is going to make preparing for that event much more difficult for Americans in general and the South, in particular. Everything is colored with that impending event. Starve there, or starve here in a few more months or years.
    No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson

    Mo is my One.

  35. #155
    The most important thing we must do right now is VOTE. Even if the enemy gets in here, vote for the Red so that our President will have the backing to get rid of them and all who support them!
    "Why not stay awake now? Who wants to sleep now with so much happening, so much to see? Life used to be dull you see...and you don't have to sleep alone, you don't even have to sleep at all; and so, all you have to do is show the stick to the dog now and then and say, 'Thank God for nothing.'"

    Drusilla, "The UNVANQUISHED. William Faulkner

  36. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker22 View Post
    My degree was in Cultural Geography and Earth Processes (Geology) so that is how I look at things.
    The truly sad part is that if the science is correct, as I believe that it is- all these displaced persons would fair far better where they are, rather than migrating north, right into the teeth of a Little Ice Age.

    This invasion is going to make preparing for that event much more difficult for Americans in general and the South, in particular. Everything is colored with that impending event. Starve there, or starve here in a few more months or years.
    Good points, while the movie was way overdone; the ending of The Day After Tomorrow comes to mind; so do my memories of Middle Class Venezuelans telling me how the "Hordes" invading from Colombia were there "Mexican Problem" with all the poor Colombians invading over the border to take the jobs away from hard working Venezuelans (because the Colombians were illegal and would work for lower wages).

    Forty years on and guess who is "invading" the other way and now Colombia, Brazil, Equador, and Argentina have a "Venezuelan" problem; with poor, bankrupted formerly middle class Venezuelans walking out of their own country (even though the Amazon jungle) in order to try to find refuge in a place they will not starve to death.

    As I said in an earlier post, REAL HUMANITARIAN AID for these people would involve HELPING THEM WHERE THEY LIVE; helping them by both investments in small business and infrastructure projects that create employment, programs that provide real (and useful) educations in both trades and the professions (with a contract to return to work in their own countries if educated abroad), programs for training in self-sufficient agriculture/gardening, programs that provide both housing and gardens/allotments so families can support themselves etc etc..

    I know there are huge challenges doing that sort of thing, starting with unstable and corrupted governments and no-go areas run by gangs that make on-the-ground work difficult but ultimately if you want people to stay home (and most people do want to stay home) making home a livable and viable place (and helping people learn skills to keep it that way) go a lot further towards helping more people than paying a very few of them (relative to the entire population) to walk to "El Norte."
    expatriate Californian living in rural Ireland with husband, dogs, horses. garden and many, many cats

  37. #157
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Sonoran Desert
    Posts
    398
    Quote Originally Posted by Nowski View Post
    Now, they are going to retake BOTH houses of
    the FUSA CONgress, because people just like me,
    are going to stay home, due to the inaction at
    stopping this migrant invasion.
    Way to give up!

  38. #158
    Trump's tweets this morning!

    Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018

    Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018

    Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them.— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2018
    Last edited by Be Well; 10-22-2018 at 11:41 AM.
    https://soundcloud.com/user-309670005
    Audio Bhagavad Gita downloadable

    This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed.

  39. #159
    Caravan migrant army attacks Mexican cops, provisions itself robbing Mexican markets

    Maybe it was a sincere, if naive, question. But Trump doesn't have to really prove anything, given that the migrants seem to be hellbent on breaking immigration law even if they really are just the sweet little daisies portrayed by the press. However, on Twitter, the evidence is mounting that Trump is right because we are already seeing evidence that the marching group is acting like an invading army, with crimes such as assault and robbery as the horde snakes through Mexico northward:

    For starters, the migrants threw rocks and beat up Mexican cops as they busted their way through its southern border.

    Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...#ixzz5UfvoDQhJ
    Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook



    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/10/caravan_migrant_army_attacks_mexican_cops_provisio ns_itself_by_robbing_mexican_markets.html
    Last edited by Seeker22; 10-22-2018 at 11:46 AM. Reason: fix naked link
    No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson

    Mo is my One.

  40. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Seeker22 View Post
    So how will 'America' react when they cross the border en masse and raid a few shopping centers, strip malls and grocery stores? Who knows, maybe it's what we need to open our eye's to this crap.

    Time to start deploying hoards of M134's.
    Repeal the 15th
    Rewrite the 14th
    Molon Labe
    We Must Secure the Existance of Our People and a Future for White Children
    Make America Confederate Again

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts


NOTICE: Timebomb2000 is an Internet forum for discussion of world events and personal disaster preparation. Membership is by request only. The opinions posted do not necessarily represent those of TB2K Incorporated (the owner of this website), the staff or site host. Responsibility for the content of all posts rests solely with the Member making them. Neither TB2K Inc, the Staff nor the site host shall be liable for any content.

All original member content posted on this forum becomes the property of TB2K Inc. for archival and display purposes on the Timebomb2000 website venue. Said content may be removed or edited at staff discretion. The original authors retain all rights to their material outside of the Timebomb2000.com website venue. Publication of any original material from Timebomb2000.com on other websites or venues without permission from TB2K Inc. or the original author is expressly forbidden.



"Timebomb2000", "TB2K" and "Watching the World Tick Away" are Service Mark℠ TB2K, Inc. All Rights Reserved.