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    2 Growing Invasion Force - Over 10K - Overwhelms Mexican Authorities – Approximately 10,000 Now

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    Growing Invasion Force Overwhelms Mexican Authorities – Approximately 10,000 Now Traveling through Mexico to U.S. Southern Border….
    Posted on October 21, 2018 by sundance

    Despite media claims to the contrary, election Mexican officials previously promised to allow the invasion of Central American migrants. There is a history here.

    The heavily financed horde of Central American migrants has overwhelmed the token resistance from Mexican military and advanced north toward the Southern U.S. border. As described by the Associated Press today: “growing army of migrants resumes march toward US.” This is a well financed, well organized, left-wing political operation strategically timed to reach the U.S. border and coincide with the 2018 mid-term election.

    Estimates as to the number of economic migrants varies between 7,000 to 10,000 and the numbers are growing fast as they are now facilitated by, and joined by, ideological comrades within Mexico. The ‘invasion force’ is now more than two-miles long. The group claims to be fleeing violence in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, yet the group has deployed violence against Mexican officials who are vastly outnumbered.



    President Trump has requested that Mexican officials stop the advancement of the massive group and praised any efforts therein. However, it appears there is a disconnect between what actions U.S. officials think is happening – and the actual advancement on the ground. Those marching toward the U.S. are no longer finding any resistance.

    As explained in a USA Today review: “Sunday the crowd was large and the mood mostly ecstatic. Olivin Castellanos, 58, a truck driver and mason from Villanueva, Honduras, said he took a raft into Mexico. He hopes to work in construction in the United States.” “No one will stop us, only God,” he said. “We knocked down the door and we continue walking.”

    Initially the group was between 3,000 and 5,000. However, in the past 36 hours the numbers have grown considerably; seeming to double in size overnight.




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    I’m only just realizing the massive scale of this caravan as they march north into Mexico. It’s several thousand people. Just look.

    9:14 AM - Oct 21, 2018
    TAPACHULA, Mexico (AP) — A ragged army of Honduran migrants streamed through southern Mexico on Sunday heading toward the United States, after making an end-run around Mexican agents who briefly blocked them at the Guatemalan border.

    They received help at every turn from sympathetic Mexicans who offered food, water and clothing. Hundreds of locals driving pickups, vans and cargo trucks stopped to let them clamber aboard.

    […] Hundreds of migrants from the caravan applied for refugee status in Mexico in the southern city of Ciudad Hidalgo.

    But a far bigger group forded the Suchiate River from Guatemala to the Mexican side individually and dozens at a time, and resumed the trek at first light, marching 10 abreast on the highway.

    “Si se pudo!” they chanted in Spanish — “Yes, we could!”

    The throng grew even larger than when the migrants arrived at the border bridge Friday, swelling overnight to 5,000 or so. It was not immediately clear where the additional travelers came from since about 2,000 had been gathered on the Mexican side Saturday night. But people have been joining and leaving the caravan daily, some moving at their own pace and strung out in a series of columns.

    Federal police monitored the caravan’s progress from a helicopter and had a few units escorting it. Outside Tapachula, about 500 black-uniformed officers briefly gathered along the highway on buses and in patrol units, but they said their orders were to maintain traffic and not to stop the caravan. They moved on toward the city before the caravan reached them.

    As the migrants passed through villages on the outskirts of Ciudad Hidalgo, locals applauded, shouted encouragement and donated supplies.

    Maria Teresa Orellana, a resident of Lorenzo, handed out sandals. “It’s solidarity,” she said. “They’re our brothers.”

    Mexico’s Interior Department said in a statement that federal and Chiapas state authorities were providing assistance to migrants, including legal counseling for those who applied for asylum. It released a video showing workers doling out food, medicine and medical treatment.

    But police could do little if anything in the face of the throngs who avoided the official entry point and crossed the notoriously porous border elsewhere.

    Migrants marching north Sunday said they gave up on Mexico because the application process was too slow, and most wanted to continue to the United States anyway.

    “We’re warriors, we got to get to the place we got to get to. We’re gonna keep on going and we’re not gonna stop,” Luis Puerto, 39, of Colon, Honduras, said in English.

    For Puerto, that place is North Carolina, where he has a wife and two daughters. He said he was recently deported from the United States after a brush with the law that he did not specify.

    “We are going to get to the border of the U.S.,” he said. “I am not going to stop. I don’t care if I die.” (read full article)
    While President Trump asks Mexico to do more in their efforts to stop the invasion force, it would be wise to remember the history of these issues. The Mexican government are not likely to offer more than the appearance of token resistance and their history in this regard is very clear.

    With the migrant march from Central America, mostly Hondurans, Guatemala and El Salvador it is important to revisit the history of Mexican threats -from Mexican officials- which precedes the current year complicity.



    ♦ In August of 2017 President Trump and Commerce Secretary Ross were discussing their trade efforts within NAFTA and renegotiation with Mexico/Canada on a trilateral basis. However, the U.S. administration said if it doesn’t work, they’d scrap the 3-way NAFTA deal and go one-on-one with individual bilateral agreements. In response, Mexican Economic Minister Ildefonso Guajardo threatened to flood the U.S. with South American illegal aliens, criminals and gang members as leverage:

    MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Mexico could pull back on cooperation in migration and security matters if the United States walks away from talks to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Mexican economy minister said in a newspaper report published on Thursday.

    “If they do not treat [us] well commercially, they should not expect us to treat them well by containing the migration that comes from other regions of the world and crosses Mexico,” Guajardo said. “Or they should not expect to be treated well in collaboration with security issues in the region.” (LINK)
    However, Mexican Minister Ildefonso Guarjardo’s threat was mild compared to a threat in January 2017, when another Mexican official promised to flood the U.S. with South American drugs and gang violence:

    ♦ In a stunning segment on Fareed Zakaria’s CNN broadcast January 29th, 2017, Mexico’s former foreign minister, Jorge Castaneda, states the Mexican government was willing to counter U.S. President Donald Trump policy by unleashing drug cartels upon the U.S. border.

    Watch, and more importantly LISTEN, to his words at 02:10 below (Prompted):

    https://youtu.be/hoZEGd6lrxI

    This was the most politically explosive admission by the Mexican government in the past decade. Even Fareed Zakaria realized what was being threatened and quickly attempted to redirect the conversation.

    Mr. Castaneda was openly admitting a willingness to promote drug trafficking. Additionally, Jorge Castaneda is so proud of the threat, he posted a video of the discussion on his own YouTube page.

    In June 2018, during the Mexican presidential election, leading candidate Lopez-Obrador previewed his perspective on Central American migration into the United States:

    MEXICO – Mexican presidential candidate Andrés Manuel López Obrador (AMLO) said Tuesday that migrants from all over the world who decide it’s “a necessity” have a “human right” to migrate to the United States.

    “Soon, very soon, after the victory of our movement, we will defend migrants all over the American continent and the migrants of the world who, by necessity, must abandon their towns to find life in the United States,” Lopez Obrador said during a rally in the Mexican city of Culiacán, eluniversal.com reports. “It’s a human right we will defend,” he added. (more)
    In July Andres Manuel Lopez-Obrador won the election and is now President-elect of Mexico awaiting his inauguration on December 1st.



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    Even IF Trump does send the military to the boarders, unless they've been given the order to "Shoot to Kill," these INVADERS will walk right in!
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    franuche says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    This is Trump’s most important test. He can lose everything right here if he doesn’t respond with the authority that is required.

    I don’t give two shits about middle class tax breaks or healthcare. Stop these invading hoards! Use all the military force that is yours, Mr. President. I’m certain you know that Russia and China are watching.
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    Rosie Memos @almostjingo

    Make no mistake @DHSgov @realDonaldTrump the powers that be WANT a violent clash with this caravan in fact they’re counting on it, a child dying would be their dream. Record your interactions.
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    franuche says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    The fear is that Trump will try to please both sides. He will stop the hoard, but then put them into queue and graciously fast-track their entry into the US in an ‘orderly’ or ‘proper’ fashion.

    The temptation will be strong because of the optic that the Left is betting on, that Trump will be shown to be a heartless bastard (see the children escaping a war-torn “shithole”?).

    If he succumbs, if he plays half-measures, then he has lost his base. Say goodby to anything resembling a red wave for the midterms – not when you reward the red (commie) wave at the border where you promised a wall.
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    jahealy says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    From my perspective, if this isn’t handled decisively with a show of strength by POTUS, he’ll peel off a certain percentage of votes come Nov. 6. People have been relatively patient with regard to the wall, but the optics of this army of invaders blasting over the border into the U.S. will not be helpful to Republicans. It will surely be less helpful to the Dems, but people are extremely angry about this, and POTUS looking impotent to stop it 2 weeks before election day is bound to upset a certain unknown percentage of those on our side.

    Over to you, Mr. President.
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    TERRIFIC CTH Comment!!!! Trump SHOULD DO THIS! It would be hilarious!!!

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    October 21, 2018 at 8:47 pm

    Yes. And if by some reason they make it in, Trump should relocate all to:

    The Hamptons
    New Canaan
    Upper West Side, NYC,
    Marin County, CA,
    Portland, OR
    Austin, TX,
    Chicago, Il,
    Provincetown, Mass
    Alexandria and Great Falls, Va

    The Obama Coalition was the wedding of the poor and liberal elites. If we are letting more poor people in, let the liberal elites deal with them. No one in these places votes MAGA anyway and they can deal with the consequences of their choices.
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    @GOP has a "DEAD END" all over if that Caravan crosses into the U S. Republican Voters will stay home



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    I will 100% guarantee you they will not cross over. If anything, they might be let in one at a time, put on a bus and immediately driven to Argentina. If you have not read "The Camp of the Saints" (1975) you really must. Depressing, horrible and absolutely prophetic of this evil "caravan" heading toward us.

    Raspail predicted this for Europe--it's already happened. Now here. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON must be let in.

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    What are those loud noise machines the cops use (and Cuba) to deafen you? Can't our Mil use those?
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    Dances with Wolverines says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    If our Government fails to repel this foreign invasion , well that’s what our founding fathers meant by assuring us of our right to use well maintained militias. Get your guns ready and head for the border. If there is 10,000 invaders, they should be met with 100,000 American Patriots! This will not end without bloodshed.
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    I back the military shooting to kill invaders.

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    franuche says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:14 pm

    This is Trump’s most important test. He can lose everything right here if he doesn’t respond with the authority that is required.

    I don’t give two shits about middle class tax breaks or healthcare. Stop these invading hoards! Use all the military force that is yours, Mr. President. I’m certain you know that Russia and China are watching.
    I agree. I'm really at a loss for words for what and how I can say how I'm feeling. It's like looking at an incoming train.
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    It’s interesting that some of the left wing people on Twitter think this is financed by a right wing group, since the numbers are so big. Meaning the large group of this size would actually benefit the right because many wouldn’t want this large of a group coming into the country.

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    facebkwallflower says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:49 pm

    Those helicopters casting nets over the “warriors” (as one traveler referred to himself) would be effective – and make for great photos of how we are first handing this invasion “bullet-free’.


    Dennis Leonard says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:43 pm

    well I think we got a problem,monkey see,monkey do,
    BREAKING: ANOTHER CARAVAN HEADED TO US; OVER 2000 MIGRANTS ON MARCH FROM HONDURAS
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    sundance says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Oh we haven’t even seen anything like the propaganda we will see in the next two weeks.
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    I see a run on concertina razor wire....

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    A flight of F-16s with cluster munitions loaded would dispense with these invaders in minutes. No nation in the world would misinterpret our intentions towards illegals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    I see a run on concertina razor wire....
    My estimate was 15,000 invaders by election day.
    I might have been very low.
    At this point they will swarm the border and Trump will lose the election and be impeached and convicted
    If there is a time to do something other than words or rallys , it is now.
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    THERE IS NO WAY TO WIN THIS WITHOUT SHOOTING.

    We will not shoot. Thus, we’ve already lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
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    sundance says:
    October 21, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Oh we haven’t even seen anything like the propaganda we will see in the next two weeks.

    Wait for a major (cough-cough) event, just as they get to our border.

    Trump needs to be finalizing defense plans and topping-off the prime movers at Ft. Bliss, Ft. Hood, Ft. Irwin and maybe Ft. Sill.

    ....and for gawd's sake, start sobering up the Marines at Pendleton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    THERE IS NO WAY TO WIN THIS WITHOUT SHOOTING.

    We will not shoot. Thus, we’ve already lost.
    We are there.
    At home, in our streets and in our cities.
    We are there.
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    I have not seen a link. But I've seen rumors that tens of thousands of Mexicans are going to join them. This is looking like a full fledge invasion.

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    For the record....

    dup


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    This is the trigger event that ends the rule of law in this country. The moment they get here, and if they overwhelm our border defenders, the day of anarchy has arrived.

    Be ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    For the record....

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    http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...hern-Border%92

    "I-Will-Use-The-Military-To-Shut-Down-Our-Southern-Border"

    This thread is kind-of an addendum. At least I think it is.

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    (From June 25th, 2018)

    Invasion Of The United States Is A ‘Human Right,’ Says Likely Next President Of Mexico

    The next president of Mexico is openly calling for his fellow citizens to flood the border and invade the United States. Andrés Manuel López Obrador, also known as “AMLO”, is so far ahead of all other possible candidates for the July 1st Mexican election, he’s already considered to likely be the next President of Mexico.

    Mexico’s election campaign has been by far, the most violent in decades. The number of politicians, candidates and office holders killed topped over 112 since the campaigns began last September. The 64-year-old candidate is running for the third time and making sure to capitalize on the unpopular and violent current state of the Mexican government.

    During a speech Tuesday, AMLO declared it a “human right” to invade the United States, “And soon, very soon–after the victory of our movement–we will defend all the migrants in the American continent and all the migrants in the world,” López Obrador said, adding that immigrants “must leave their towns and find a life in the United States.”

    On Thursday night’s Tucker Carlson Show on the Fox News channel, Mexican-American journalist Jorge Ramos began his interview with Tucker stating that he did not speak for Mexico, AMLO, or any other Mexican presidential candidates. “Don’t expect López Obrador to be a spineless and weak president like Enrique Peña Nieto, there’s going to be a completely different relationship with López Obrador if he wins and President Donald Trump,” said Ramos.

    Tucker asked Ramos why it was considered a “good thing” for the president of another country to be declaring that the world has a right to move here. “That’s a hostile act aimed at us. Why would we be for that?”, asked Tucker. “Since I’m an American, I can only vote in this country and no other countries.”

    Ramos brought up the current immigration crisis at the border and made the unsubstantiated claim that there were 3,300 Mexican children in cages and that it was all due to Americans being racist towards the Mexican people. Tucker clarified that what was happening at the border was not racism as Ramos claimed, that it was simply against the law here in America.

    Tucker Carlson asked Jorge Ramos if López Obrador was campaigning to be the next president of Mexico why would he also want to press the citizens of the country he wants to represent to leave Mexico and invade the United States. Ramos replied, “Immigration has to do with supply and demand and if there are jobs for them here in the United States and there are not enough jobs for them in Mexico…”. Tucker cut him off by saying, “Oh, I get it–just outsource your poor people to America. We’re going to figure out how to do that to Mexico.”

    Throughout the campaign, López Obrador has been very aggressive, especially with how he plans to handle President Donald Trump, if elected, “Mexico and its people will not be the pinata of any foreign government,” AMLO said in a speech where thousands of people cussed and booed at the mention of Trump.

    López Obrador’s basic economic plan for Mexico, is for hundreds-of-thousands of his fellow Mexican citizens to flood the southern U.S. border; overwhelm the system and essentially create an initial border economy; then to being a process of exfiltration of U.S. economic wealth directly into Mexico.

    Andrés Manuel López Obrador calling for a literal invasion of the United States by the Mexican people, is one that Americans would be footing the bill for. López Obrador’s plan is to use our education system, training we provide, taking thousands of American jobs, and in time having the United States pay for Mexico’s increasing standard-of-living.

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    Ive witnesed napalm. horrendous. but vert effective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    THERE IS NO WAY TO WIN THIS WITHOUT SHOOTING.

    We will not shoot. Thus, we’ve already lost.
    You are correct, and if we did shoot, even one, the press would have an orgasm like we have never seen and they wold use the shooting to portray Trump as Hitler x 10 for real.

    We have lost no matter how it goes.

    Maybe Trump will pull off a miracle, it will take one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinwater View Post
    You are correct, and if we did shoot, even one, the press would have an orgasm like we have never seen and they wold use the shooting to portray Trump as Hitler x 10 for real.

    We have lost no matter how it goes.

    Maybe Trump will pull off a miracle, it will take one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Wait for a major (cough-cough) event, just as they get to our border.
    . . . sudden onset of dysentery (aka Montezuma's Revenge), requiring on-the-spot emergency medical response, in Mexico . . .

    As a counter-response, the three-letter folks should 2 AM raid several key folks, here in the U.S. - start with Alex Soros, and work their way downward - "rendition" them to Gitmo, to await trial.

    Am wondering if the three-letter folks have "everything" with regards to email, texting, cell phone numbers and conversations between the key organizers behind this pending political/humanitarian fiasco - if most of those types of comms were conducted exclusively OCONUS, may make it tougher for the three-letter boys to snarf up such evidence.


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    Then we have a CONFLICT of "Rights" and THEIR rights do NOT trump OURS because WE are here now.


    BUT we are RAPIDLY ARRIVING at the point at which we get to DEFEND them.

    Unfortunately RELIC and I are unable to actually physically GO THERE. We're too far north to do much, but whatever we CAN do we WILL. (So ong as it doesn't cost money we don't got)l
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    And if this invasion succeeds and takes our jobs, our food, our medical system, etc. where do WE run??
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    The only way I see to stop it is lots & lots of boots on the ground.

    Military boots, not just DHS & ICE.

    Absolutely lock the border down....maybe allow wetbacks to go home.

    Stop all remittances going to messico.


    If Trump does this, I expect the cartels will try to go all Rambo. This opens up ROEs to include live fire.]

    There is also a percentage of the messican army and law enforcement that is owned by the cartels. Don't have a clue as to how that will factor in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    (From June 25th, 2018)

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/invasi...ent-of-mexico/

    Invasion Of The United States Is A ‘Human Right,’ Says Likely Next President Of Mexico
    Invasion Of Mexico Is A Human Right, Says Likely Next President Of The United States
    There - fixed it.


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    The hurricane will be long gone before they’re in that area.

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    The hurricane will be long gone before they’re in that area.

    That was my point ….. more likely, they will be N of the track before the hurricane gets there. Or maybe they just take a break for a few days and wait, if the bus doesn't get there. We will see...
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    And if this invasion succeeds and takes our jobs, our food, our medical system, etc. where do WE run??
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    I thought this caravan just crossed into Mexico from Guatemala yesterday. If they are walking, it will be months until they are anywhere near our southern border, and Hurricane Willa long past.
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