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    13 Had my first ever flu shot today.

    Single dose, 2 'A's & 2 'B's. Not real happy about it but it was the shot or no job. At least it was the single dose version, no preservatives they tell me. I don't fit the criteria for opting out and not sure I'd want to based on what you need to have.

    He (LPN) asked if I had any reactions to eggs, I said no. Then I asked if I could get the shot 'over easy'. He chuckled, I thought it was pretty good.

    Now waiting to see if I'll get sick for a few days. Took it today so I didn't have to ruin my weekend. Figure if I get sick it'll be all over my new boss and co-workers. Lucky them.

    Hoping to use this job to get done what I need to (it's a good job for our area) and then broom it. We shall see. Either way, not thrilled about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Single dose, 2 'A's & 2 'B's. Not real happy about it but it was the shot or no job. At least it was the single dose version, no preservatives they tell me. I don't fit the criteria for opting out and not sure I'd want to based on what you need to have.

    He (LPN) asked if I had any reactions to eggs, I said no. Then I asked if I could get the shot 'over easy'. He chuckled, I thought it was pretty good.

    Now waiting to see if I'll get sick for a few days. Took it today so I didn't have to ruin my weekend. Figure if I get sick it'll be all over my new boss and co-workers. Lucky them.

    Hoping to use this job to get done what I need to (it's a good job for our area) and then broom it. We shall see. Either way, not thrilled about it.
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    They don't even ask me any more at the doctors if I want the vaccines. The less I put into my body by way of shots or otherwise, the better off I am. I've had the chickenpox and yeah I know I can still get shingles, but the likelihood isn't there. Never had the flu in my life and I'm in my 60's. If it's required to keep a paycheck coming in, I guess I'd pick the shot even though it goes against my belief system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardou View Post
    They don't even ask me any more at the doctors if I want the vaccines. The less I put into my body by way of shots or otherwise, the better off I am. I've had the chickenpox and yeah I know I can still get shingles, but the likelihood isn't there. Never had the flu in my life and I'm in my 60's. If it's required to keep a paycheck coming in, I guess I'd pick the shot even though it goes against my belief system.
    I am with you , I have had one flu shot in my whole 60 years of life and have never had the flu never, not even once.
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    No way....Jose'. You have to do what you have to do and I understand that. However, nobody is injecting anything into my body without my explicit permission and if I have to sacrifice the job then so be it. I don't trust big pharma further than I can throw them. You have to trust the pharma company implicitly that there is nothing in the vaccine that will harm you and the nurses/doctors have to do the same. Legislation was passed to basically indemnify the vaccine makers from lawsuits to adverse reactions so they really have little incentive to spend the $ to make sure that the vaccine works and that nothing is in it that will cause harm. I don't have that kind of faith to trust that it doesn't.
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    5 or 6 years ago, I was at my Doctor's office for a check up visit. At one point, he asked me if I'd had my flu shot. I said no. He says you really need to get one at your age. I'm like, that's ok, I'm fine. Again he looks at me and says "YOU REALLY NEED TO GET ONE". I look at him over the top of my glasses, and after a strategic pause, I say, ok fine, give it to me.

    So a few months later, everyone around me is in bed, in the fetal position, moaning and whining, sick as a dog. Me, no problems. I've gotten one every since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmanan View Post
    Do you work at a hospital??
    Yeah. Not pt facing but it's not surprising.
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    Yep I thought so, I worked in surgery for around 22 years and they finally made it mantadory you had to get the flu shot in order to work their I took one in 2009 In May of 2010 I quiet because of the flu shot and some other issues with the doctors group I was working for as a physicans assistant..

    Pissed me off big time when I quiet I was making 20.00 dollars a hour, ****ing piss ants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Txkstew View Post
    5 or 6 years ago, I was at my Doctor's office for a check up visit. At one point, he asked me if I'd had my flu shot. I said no. He says you really need to get one at your age. I'm like, that's ok, I'm fine. Again he looks at me and says "YOU REALLY NEED TO GET ONE". I look at him over the top of my glasses, and after a strategic pause, I say, ok fine, give it to me.

    So a few months later, everyone around me is in bed, in the fetal position, moaning and whining, sick as a dog. Me, no problems. I've gotten one every since.
    So you were the carrier, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmanan View Post
    Yep I thought so, I worked in surgery for around 22 years and they finally made it mantadory you had to get the flu shot in order to work their I took one in 2009 In May of 2010 I quiet because of the flu shot and some other issues with the doctors group I was working for as a physicans assistant..

    Pissed me off big time when I quiet I was making 20.00 dollars a hour, ****ing piss ants.
    Yeah, I'll have to do it for a few years, just no way around it for now. But when I quit, it's a good place otherwise, it'll be mostly because of the flu shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yogizorch View Post
    So you were the carrier, eh?
    Maybe, but then again everyone around me likes to run the roads and get out. Me, not so much. I've spent 2 weeks before, never leaving the house.

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    Had ONE flu shot in 1996. Got the flu and out for 2 months.

    Had ONE pneumonia shot in Oct 2013. Got double-pneumonia in March 2014, then got single pneumonia in 2015 and again in 2016.

    2017 was my first year without contracting pneumonia since getting that shot.

    Convinced the prednisone (steroid - given me the first time I contracted pneumonia AND thereafter) messed up my immune system.

    Had chicken pox as a kid but am rolling the dice on shingles. No more flippin shots for me.
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    One way to get safe when flu season hits is to get you a box of exam gloves[they are very cheap] and keep them in you vehicle so when you go in to a store or other places put on gloves and when you leave take them off door handles and shooping cart handles are the worst ways the flu and other sicknesses get you.

    Always carrie extra with you when you go in placeses incase you have to go the bath room, the bath rooms in public places are nasty with germs very very nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    Had ONE flu shot in 1996. Got the flu and out for 2 months.

    Had ONE pneumonia shot in Oct 2013. Got double-pneumonia in March 2014, then got single pneumonia in 2015 and again in 2016.

    2017 was my first year without contracting pneumonia since getting that shot.

    Convinced the prednisone (steroid - given me the first time I contracted pneumonia AND thereafter) messed up my immune system.

    Had chicken pox as a kid but am rolling the dice on shingles. No more flippin shots for me.
    And that's one of my biggest arguments against it; they have NO idea what's actually going to come down the pipe. That and the merc in the multi-doses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    And that's one of my biggest arguments against it; they have NO idea what's actually going to come down the pipe. That and the merc in the multi-doses.
    Yep when they first talked about making us get them where I worked over half of the hospital did not want to get them we fought them for four years to not have to take them in the end we lost, the hospital over the next year and a half lost 30 to 40 percent of the workers because of the forced vax. F/////g piss ants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmanan View Post
    One way to get safe when flu season hits is to get you a box of exam gloves[they are very cheap] and keep them in you vehicle so when you go in to a store or other places put on gloves and when you leave take them off door handles and shooping cart handles are the worst ways the flu and other sicknesses get you.

    Always carrie extra with you when you go in placeses incase you have to go the bath room, the bath rooms in public places are nasty with germs very very nasty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    No way....Jose'. You have to do what you have to do and I understand that. However, nobody is injecting anything into my body without my explicit permission and if I have to sacrifice the job then so be it. I don't trust big pharma further than I can throw them. You have to trust the pharma company implicitly that there is nothing in the vaccine that will harm you and the nurses/doctors have to do the same. Legislation was passed to basically indemnify the vaccine makers from lawsuits to adverse reactions so they really have little incentive to spend the $ to make sure that the vaccine works and that nothing is in it that will cause harm. I don't have that kind of faith to trust that it doesn't.
    ^^^ THIS ^^^. Mrs. Craftsman is a hospital administrator. We have already decided that if/when they get around to requiring vaccines, she'll quit. End of story. Some things in life are non-negotiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCraftsman View Post
    ^^^ THIS ^^^. Mrs. Craftsman is a hospital administrator. We have already decided that if/when they get around to requiring vaccines, she'll quit. End of story. Some things in life are non-negotiable.
    Good for her, f/////g piss ants they are.

    You are lucky most hospitals have been a requirement to get the flu shot for close to ten years now, so she is lucky to not have to get them already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmanan View Post
    Good for her, f/////g piss ants they are.

    You are lucky most hospitals have been a requirement to get the flu shot for close to ten years now, so she is lucky to not have to get them already.
    They are at the "strongly encouraging" stage right now for admins. They nearly require it of direct care staff, but many staff claim a religious exemption at this point and the hospital doesn't require documentation. It's just a short walk from here to "vaccines required" though. Time is short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCraftsman View Post
    They are at the "strongly encouraging" stage right now. Just a short walk from here to "vaccines required." Time is short.

    Yep that is how it started out at the place I worked at.

    F/////g piss ants they are.
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    because Po;io cures itself.

    Flu shots are not just about you. You may never noticeably have the Flu but, let's say you do and you wander around Wally World and some ten year old kid who recently had a Liver transplant picks up something you just snotted up, they get it, they die.

    You are working in an incubater-Hospital, so all these people coming and going with various issues and you spread it around?
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    No vaccines for me or my family. A good friend of mine is a nurse at a rehabilitation hospital, When I asked her if she's required to get vaccinated she refuses, and has to wear a mask her entire shift.
    Small price to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    because Po;io cures itself.

    Flu shots are not just about you. You may never noticabaly have the Fu but, let's say you do and you wander around Wally World and some ten year old kid who recently had a Liver transplant picks up something you just snotted up, they get it, they die.

    You are working in an incubater-Hospital, so all these people coming and going with various issues and you spread it around?
    Not if THEY have the f***ing shot...right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldCraftsman View Post
    Not if THEY have the ****ing shot...right?
    You cannot get the shot right after a Transplant. Ask me how I ****ing know..Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    because Po;io cures itself.

    Flu shots are not just about you. You may never noticeably have the Flu but, let's say you do and you wander around Wally World and some ten year old kid who recently had a Liver transplant picks up something you just snotted up, they get it, they die.

    You are working in an incubater-Hospital, so all these people coming and going with various issues and you spread it around?
    Sorry, don't put this back on me or anyone else. I'm not responsible for the world. PLENTY of folks with the shot who get the flu. The shit's in the air and if you get it you get it.

    They can't prove every single year that it's effective at all. Hell, even the local media is touting how cases are showing up already but they have no real idea if the 'vaccine' will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    because Po;io cures itself.

    Flu shots are not just about you. You may never noticabaly have the Fu but, let's say you do and you wander around Wally World and some ten year old kid who recently had a Liver transplant picks up something you just snotted up, they get it, they die.

    You are working in an incubater-Hospital, so all these people coming and going with various issues and you spread it around?

    Sorry dude you have know ideal what you are talking about.

    When they started talking about making us take the flu shoot I aske them, are you going to make all vistors who come in the hospital take or prove they had one before they a loud in to the hospital, they said no, so I said then what you want to do does not matter if every one who comes in is not getting them, they had no answer to me.

    Do you see what I'm saying, are you just going with the lieing flow with things.
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    Then we should also ban all nuts and food that just might find that one person who can't take it. Nope, not doing it. Such a tiny minority it doesn't count. This is where self-responsibility comes in. You got issues? Then protect YOU until you're strong enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Txkstew View Post
    5 or 6 years ago, I was at my Doctor's office for a check up visit. At one point, he asked me if I'd had my flu shot. I said no. He says you really need to get one at your age. I'm like, that's ok, I'm fine. Again he looks at me and says "YOU REALLY NEED TO GET ONE". I look at him over the top of my glasses, and after a strategic pause, I say, ok fine, give it to me.

    So a few months later, everyone around me is in bed, in the fetal position, moaning and whining, sick as a dog. Me, no problems. I've gotten one every since.
    I am having a very sick grandbaby (multiple heart issues) being born at the end of January. I will take whatever they give me on the off chance it will help that new little one. End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I am having a very sick grandbaby (multiple heart issues) being born at the end of January. I will take whatever they give me on the off chance it will help that new little one. End of story.
    Yes, that's perfect. YOUR choice. The way it should be. Not forced on anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post

    Flu shots are not just about you.

    So then what your saying is that in order to accommodate you because of an infection or virus you might pick up that everyone else has to forfeit their right to control what is put into their body? That dog doesn't hunt. If it's voluntary then great. For health care workers that decline then make it mandatory for them to work with masks, gowns and gloves when in direct patient contact. That way they can choose. To make it mandatory to put things into their body that they have no way of knowing what long term harm it might or might not do is wrong on many levels. I donated a kidney to my sister and she was on anti-rejection drugs for the rest of her life before she died two years ago. Because of that she had a compromised immune system. She was the one that took the precautions around others. Others didn't take the precautions for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Then we should also ban all nuts and food that just might find that one person who can't take it. Nope, not doing it. Such a tiny minority it doesn't count. This is where self-responsibility comes in. You got issues? Then protect YOU until you're strong enough.


    YES YES YES ,if you have a trans plant then don't go out in public till is safe for you.

    Dam the drug companys [who make much money off these shots] have most of the country brain washed , just like the public school system.

    Dam people get a brain that thinks for its self and not one who goes with the flow and belives every thing [they] say, just dam.
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    If you work in a hospital and take care of people in any way, you should get the flu shot and any other shots needed, or find another job.
    Getting immunizations and a few other things come with the job.
    Jeesh some of you need to find another line of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    If you work in a hospital and take care of people in any way, you should get the flu shot and any other shots needed, or find another job.
    Getting immunizations and a few other things come with the job.
    Jeesh some of you need to find another line of work.
    Here some body who has no clue , and is brain washed to the max.

    If you are not going to make every one who comes in to a hospital take a flue shot, then, making the health care workers take it has no point.

    Think about that TerryK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    So then what your saying is that in order to accommodate you because of an infection or virus you might pick up that everyone else has to forfeit their right to control what is put into their body? That dog doesn't hunt. If it's voluntary then great. For health care workers that decline then make it mandatory for them to work with masks, gowns and gloves when in direct patient contact. That way they can choose. To make it mandatory to put things into their body that they have no way of knowing what long term harm it might or might not do is wrong on many levels. I donated a kidney to my sister and she was on anti-rejection drugs for the rest of her life before she died two years ago. Because of that she had a compromised immune system. She was the one that took the precautions around others. Others didn't take the precautions for her.
    There you go. That's an actual answer to the arguement.

    I agree with that argument. No one should be forced to do such. That said-coming from a Veterinary perspective and having had to deal with things like Rabies, Feline Leukemia [[It's a Virus not sure why it was named such myself]], Kennel Coiugh and Parvo I do know that, in animals, non-vaccinated critters are the spreaders-yeah, it kills them but, as with the Flu shot-there is no 100% guarantee your animal will not catch it if it comes in contact.

    So I am not advocating mandatory anything. However, screaming at me about "If YOUY get the shot then YOU have no worries! Nyah, Nyah!"

    Actually, no-the shot helps but it is not 100%.
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    The dam vistors who come in with know flu shot and who have the flu will visting and wipe their nose or there eyes and the hit the elevator button or put their hand on the hand railing or touch the door handles.

    Dam dude thing about that what since does it make to make the works get the flu shot.

    Do you or others even see what I'm saying.
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    I don't think the flu shot has ever come anywhere close to being 100%, has it? Most of the time I see the numbers they are running 30 to 40%.
    For a "free" people, we sure are forced to do things that we don't want to do all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    There you go. That's an actual answer to the arguement.

    I agree with that argument. No one should be forced to do such. That said-coming from a Veterinary perspective and having had to deal with things like Rabies, Feline Leukemia [[It's a Virus not sure why it was named such myself]], Kennel Coiugh and Parvo I do know that, in animals, non-vaccinated critters are the spreaders-yeah, it kills them but, as with the Flu shot-there is no 100% guarantee your animal will not catch it if it comes in contact.

    So I am not advocating mandatory anything. However, screaming at me about "If YOUY get the shot then YOU have no worries! Nyah, Nyah!"

    Actually, no-the shot helps but it is not 100%.

    The words you just typed make no since , just so you know.

    And does not make it a good thing for health care workers to be forced in order to work to be imployed forced to put poison in their system, just so you know, weak agurement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmanan View Post
    YES YES YES ,if you have a trans plant then don't go out in public till is safe for you.

    Dam the drug companys [who make much money off these shots] have most of the country brain washed , just like the public school system.

    Dam people get a brain that thinks for its self and not one who goes with the flow and belives every thing [they] say, just dam.
    Dogmanan, Just curious, where did you get your Master's Degree and how long have you been a "Physicians Assistant". All the PAs and ARNPs I've met, my son is one, have Masters degrees or higher.

    There are almost a million people in the US who are transplant recipients. Most transplant recipients are on immune suppressing drugs for the rest of their lives. The initial high dosage is reduced somewhat around a year after the transplant.
    Add in all the cancer patients and other sick patients whose immune system has been knocked out due to various treatments (hell that might be you) or current illnesses and you have quite a few people who need to worry about picking up a stray infection.
    All it takes is one asshole to come in contact with them in a hospital and give them an infection they can't handle.

    If you don't work with people then do whatever you want. If you work taking care of sick people in the hospital then you either take whatever precautions are needed to make sure you aren't a danger to patients or go find another job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    Dogmanan, Just curious, where did you get your Master's Degree and how long have you been a "Physicians Assistant". All the PAs and ARNPs I've met, my son is one, have Masters degrees or higher.

    There are almost a million people in the US who are transplant recipients. Most transplant recipients are on immune suppressing drugs for the rest of their lives. The initial high dosage is reduced somewhat around a year after the transplant.
    Add in all the cancer patients and other sick patients whose immune system has been knocked out due to various treatments (hell that might be you) or current illnesses and you have quite a few people who need to worry about picking up a stray infection.
    All it takes is one asshole to come in contact with them in a hospital and give them an infection they can't handle.

    If you don't work with people then do whatever you want. If you work taking care of sick people in the hospital then you either take whatever precautions are needed to make sure you aren't a danger to patients or go find another job.
    Dude you have know clue, Did you even read about what I said about vistors coming in infected , and touching every thing, that have know flu shot, or did you just not want to wrap that aroud you brain..

    Just stick with your braind washed bull shit.

    Do you even have a clue how germs are transmited at all, it seem to me you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    There you go. That's an actual answer to the arguement.

    I agree with that argument. No one should be forced to do such.

    And I think there should be mandatory informed consent for all vaccinations so patients can weigh the pros and cons. As adults we should be able to weigh the potential risk/benefit of anything we undergo. Most people get the flu shot and other vaccinations because their doctor recommends it or they just come into the exam room and tell the patient that they are due for this/that/or the other thing. I really haven't done that for myself as I've only been to the doctor once in about 15 years. But when I got my Mal puppy I had to decide what kind of vaccinations to get her. I went with the Parvo vaccine as that is a miserable virus that is deadly. I also got her a Lymes vax as that is more prevalent up here. My BIL is a veterinarian and I consulted him on a few things but did a lot of research as well.

    My first German Shepherd I had I got her at 2 years old with no issues and took her to the vet and as we were not sure what vaccinations that she had had they threw the kitchen sink at her and she developed a vaccinosis reaction and she had skin allergies for the rest of her life. Wasn't a food allergy and wasn't contact dermatitis but happened about two weeks after that vaccine cocktail and that is the only thing I can point to. Some vaccines I think have their place but they push too many too soon one on top of the other and IMO the quality is often suspect.
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