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    Spanish Men Were Completely Wiped Out By The Arrival Of A New Tribe 4,000 Years Ago

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    Spanish Men Were Completely Wiped Out By The Arrival Of A New Tribe 4,000 Years Ago

    Spanish Men Were Completely Wiped Out By The Arrival Of A New Tribe 4,000 Years Ago
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    There goes the neighborhood. A study has suggested that Spanish males were completely wiped out by the arrival of a new culture during the Bronze Age.

    As reported by New Scientist, and presented at the New Scientist Live event in London last weekend, researchers have been studying the DNA of people that lived in Europe and Asia several thousand years ago.

    The latest results, presented by David Reich of the Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts, concern the arrival of a group of people in Europe known as the Yamnaya. With the newly invented wheel and domesticated horses, they were able to expand like few others.

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    “These people spread over a vast territory from Mongolia to Hungary and into Europe, and are the single primary most important contributors to Europeans today,” said Reich.

    About 4,500 years ago they arrived in Britain, replacing 90 percent of the gene pool, possibly as a result of the diseases they brought and climate change. But on the Iberian Peninsula, something more dramatic took place.

    It appears there was some sort of “violent conquest”, notes New Scientist, where local males were either killed or enslaved and the females claimed by the Yamnaya. This is evidenced by a “complete Y-chromosome replacement,” according to Reich. In other words, Spanish men disappeared completely from the gene pool.

    Other research has also highlighted the dramatic shifts in population as a result of the Yamnaya arriving. It’s thought that they replaced half of Europe’s genetic ancestry within a few hundred years, with a study last year suggesting 10 men for every one woman migrated into Europe as part of the group – an “extreme” ratio.

    The Yamnaya were also likely responsible for the spread of Indo-European languages in Western Europe, which explains why they’re spoken so far from Asia. Much of their practices are thought to have been ingrained into European culture, too.


    While we’ve known for a while the impact the Yamnaya had on Europe, this latest research from Reich and his colleagues highlights just how large that change was. And for the men of Spain, it was a change that saw them completely wiped off the map.

    [H/T: New Scientist]

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Susan View Post
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    Spanish Men Were Completely Wiped Out By The Arrival Of A New Tribe 4,000 Years Ago

    Spanish Men Were Completely Wiped Out By The Arrival Of A New Tribe 4,000 Years Ago
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    There goes the neighborhood. A study has suggested that Spanish males were completely wiped out by the arrival of a new culture during the Bronze Age.

    As reported by New Scientist, and presented at the New Scientist Live event in London last weekend, researchers have been studying the DNA of people that lived in Europe and Asia several thousand years ago.

    The latest results, presented by David Reich of the Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts, concern the arrival of a group of people in Europe known as the Yamnaya. With the newly invented wheel and domesticated horses, they were able to expand like few others.

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    “These people spread over a vast territory from Mongolia to Hungary and into Europe, and are the single primary most important contributors to Europeans today,” said Reich.

    About 4,500 years ago they arrived in Britain, replacing 90 percent of the gene pool, possibly as a result of the diseases they brought and climate change. But on the Iberian Peninsula, something more dramatic took place.

    It appears there was some sort of “violent conquest”, notes New Scientist, where local males were either killed or enslaved and the females claimed by the Yamnaya. This is evidenced by a “complete Y-chromosome replacement,” according to Reich. In other words, Spanish men disappeared completely from the gene pool.

    Other research has also highlighted the dramatic shifts in population as a result of the Yamnaya arriving. It’s thought that they replaced half of Europe’s genetic ancestry within a few hundred years, with a study last year suggesting 10 men for every one woman migrated into Europe as part of the group – an “extreme” ratio.

    The Yamnaya were also likely responsible for the spread of Indo-European languages in Western Europe, which explains why they’re spoken so far from Asia. Much of their practices are thought to have been ingrained into European culture, too.


    While we’ve known for a while the impact the Yamnaya had on Europe, this latest research from Reich and his colleagues highlights just how large that change was. And for the men of Spain, it was a change that saw them completely wiped off the map.

    [H/T: New Scientist]
    Really, they had to throw climate change into the bag???
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    Really, they had to throw climate change into the bag???
    Yep, there actually was some Climate Change at the time, lots of famine too; it tends to be what gets people "migrating" aka often conquering their way across Europe and Asia; especially when it gets colder.

    I know that 1177 is the Year the major Bronze Age civilizations in the Mediterranean Sea suddenly collapsed, and that is partly thought to relate to Climate Issues.

    The Migration Age (aka Dark Ages) from about the 6th century to the 9th (AD/CE) were caused by the Climate Suddenly getting colder; the Norse Expansion when it got Warmer.

    Climate Changes do have a profound effect on people moving around (or staying put) but it might have been nice if they had explained just WHAT was happening in Spain (drought? Heat? Cold?) etc rather than just using a "buzz word."
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    . result of the Yamnaya arriving. It’s thought that they replaced half of Europe’s genetic ancestry within a few hundred years, with a study last year suggesting 10 men for every one woman migrated into Europe as part of the group – an “extreme” ratio.


    About the same ratio of illegals in the migrant caravan
    No or very few women and masses of prime age and prime health young men

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Yep, there actually was some Climate Change at the time, lots of famine too; it tends to be what gets people "migrating" aka often conquering their way across Europe and Asia; especially when it gets colder.

    I know that 1177 is the Year the major Bronze Age civilizations in the Mediterranean Sea suddenly collapsed, and that is partly thought to relate to Climate Issues.

    The Migration Age (aka Dark Ages) from about the 6th century to the 9th (AD/CE) were caused by the Climate Suddenly getting colder; the Norse Expansion when it got Warmer.

    Climate Changes do have a profound effect on people moving around (or staying put) but it might have been nice if they had explained just WHAT was happening in Spain (drought? Heat? Cold?) etc rather than just using a "buzz word."
    Bronze age, huh? Guess the king failed to impose a carbon tax on all the smelting fires making to many green house gasses which caused the sea floor to collapse.
    Guess there really isn't anything new under the sun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Susan View Post
    About the same ratio of illegals in the migrant caravan
    No or very few women and masses of prime age and prime health young men
    Yes, that was the ugly takeaway that leaped out to me also.

    But it also began an ominous music in the backgrounders und of my mind as I was reminded of how the governments of Europe and the USA are actually facilitating and paying for this vast immigration of Mexicans and Muslims who the obviously intend to replace the whites (the males anyways...) with. The only obvious explanation to me is that with AI and robots they no longer need white males. Just dummies to do the menial work.
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    My semi-educated guess is the Yamnaya were one of the Celt tribes. They overrun most of northern Europe about that time. Of all the barbarians the Romans faced, the Celts were some of the meanest. Celt advancement was held to the south by Rome, to the west by the Atlantic and to the north and east by the Teutons. They even invaded and occupied Greece, the Bible book of Galatians were written for the Gauls (Celts) in northern Turkey.

    Something similar happened again to the Iberian people during the Middle ages when the Muslims ruled Spain. That may explain why the Spanish have a bit darker complexion than most of Europe.

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    Here is a more recent article on this subject. This one doesn't contain climate change either.



    https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_relea...-adr031419.php

    Public Release: 14-Mar-2019
    Ancient DNA research shines spotlight on Iberia

    The largest-ever study of ancient DNA from the Iberian Peninsula (Spain and Portugal) suggests that the Iberian male lineages were almost completely replaced between 4,500 and 4,000 years ago by newcomers originating on the Russian steppe

    University of Huddersfield

    THE University of Huddersfield's Archaeogenetics Research Group has been involved in a major international collaboration documenting the settlement of Iberia over the last eight thousand years, published on 14 March in the journal Science.

    The work, which involved 111 researchers from Harvard Medical School in the United States, the Max-Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, and multiple groups in Spain and Portugal, included ancient DNA results from prehistoric Portugal contributed by Huddersfield's Leverhulme Trust doctoral scholar Marina Silva and her supervisory team in Huddersfield and the University of Minho in Braga.

    The study shows in detail how Iberia's population has changed drastically over time, from its hunter-gatherer origins before the arrival of farming 7,500 years ago, through to the medieval period and modern times.

    Most striking was an influx of new people during the later Copper Age, otherwise known as the Beaker period because of the ubiquitous presence in burials of large drinking vessels, from about 4,500 years ago. By the Early Bronze Age, 500 years later, these newcomers represented about 40% of Iberia's genetic pool - but virtually 100% of their male lineages. This suggests that the newcomers were mainly men, and that - somehow - they all but replaced the men living there previously, whilst the local women survived the takeover.

    This is an extraordinary example of sex bias - a phenomenon described previously by Huddersfield's Leverhulme Trust doctoral scholar Marina Silva for India. What is even more striking now is that both Iberia and India had a similar source - a population of early metal-using stock breeders, who lived to the north of the Black Sea on Russian steppe lands, 5,000 years ago. They fanned out in both directions, west across Europe and east into Asia, their pastoralist economy, domesticated horses and wheeled wagons giving them a crucial advantage over the indigenous farming populations. Moreover, they are also thought to have brought the Indo-European languages spoken across Europe and India today.

    Around 2,500 BC, the researchers found, Iberians began living alongside newcomers from central Europe who carried recent ancestry from those people on the Russian steppe. Within a few hundred years, the two groups had extensively interbred. This was beautifully exemplified at a Bronze Age site known as the Castillejo de Bonete in Spain, where a woman and man were found buried side by side. Analyses revealed that the woman's ancestry was entirely local, while the man had very recent ancestors from central Europe.

    "This is one of the strongest pieces of evidence in ancient-DNA research of sex bias in the prehistoric period," said Iñigo Olalde, a postdoctoral fellow in the lab of David Reich at Harvard Medical School and first author of the study.

    Marina Silva added: "It's an intriguing situation, because the Beaker culture originated in Portugal and spread across Europe from there - but at the same time, or shortly after, men who probably spoke Indo-European languages were moving in the opposite direction. Resolving the population dynamics in western Europe during the Copper and Bronze Ages is a big step towards understanding the origins of the Celtic languages, which were spoken across western Europe before the rise of the Roman Empire."

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    just like most of the Guatemalans and Hondurans migrating north.
    And the Muslim Migration
    I would expect the same phenomenon coming from China.

    They have clearly stated the intent to replace the white male population
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