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    Can Anyone ID This Snake?



    Found in the Des Moines, Iowa area.

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    hmmmm. looks vaguely like a former president.
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    Hard to see on my monitor.
    Eye set? Are they on the side of the head, or more on top?
    Looks vaguely like a watersnake in the neroida (spell?) group (genus?), but the eyes would be more on top.
    Otherwise, perhaps a fox snake?.
    Rat snake is always a possible choice, although a broad category, depending on the taxonomic classification one follows.
    Pittuophis (bull snake, and others) is unlikely, but again, hard to see in that pic. I'm going mostly by markings for that opinion. The pits tend to have more of a ring pattern.
    NOT seeing kingsnake. The triangular head is wrong.

    One thing I've learned, there are a LOT more snakes out there than I am familiar with, and snapshot ID's are esp. risky.

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    Looks like a copperhead, but not quite sure, since I can't see the neck.

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    My bet is a bull snake but like others said, we need better pics.

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    Hard to tell from the picture, does it have round eyes? Looks like a Southern Water Snake.

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    Looks young. Corn snakes can have that dusky coloration when young. They also frequently have a decorative shield or trident sort of shape on the top of the head.
    Corn snakes in IA? Not sure, I associate them with the South - unless it is someone's escaped pet.

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    Juvenile western rat snake....?
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    it's live. => BAD SNAKE.
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    Sorry, only pic I have. Apparently was seen next to my son's house. Thought the vaguely triangular head was 'interesting' but the tail is quite clear - no rattles. Wrong coloration for a copperhead, and we don't have them in Iowa anyhow.

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    OK. So much for bad humor.

    I REALLY don't like arrow heads on snakes... Nice round/ovoid heads, no problem. Arrow heads mean poisonous to ME....

    But I am an acknowledged pussy in certain environs.
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    I'll go with a ground rattler...

    Here's an example...
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    Oh and ground rattlers don't have rattles...
    You say "trigger-happy cowboy" as if it were a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post

    Found in the Des Moines, Iowa area.

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    This is my best guess based on the photo. Would like a better look at the head to be sure, but this seems to match your picture. Hope that helps. As far as I'm concerned.....ALL SNAKES ARE POISONOUS until PROVEN otherwise.....just to be safe.



    Northern Water Snake (Nerodia sipedon)

    Description: 24 - 44 inches. Northern Water Snakes are gray to brown, with darker brown, reddish-brown, or black bands near the head that become blotches as you move down the body towards the tail. The pattern on adults may fade making it look solid black or brown. The belly is light colored with a combination of red and black markings that become darker near the tail. Some Northern Water Snakes may have a yellow or orange coloring on the belly with or without the red and black markings.

    Similar Species: Copperbelly Water Snakes have no markings on the belly, and are usually completely patternless as adults. Diamondback Water Snakes do not have bands near the head, and retain their pattern as adults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post
    Sorry, only pic I have. Apparently was seen next to my son's house. Thought the vaguely triangular head was 'interesting' but the tail is quite clear - no rattles. Wrong coloration for a copperhead, and we don't have them in Iowa anyhow.

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    You can "Google" copperheads, and it shows that they have a variety of colors. One that is the same color and distinct markings of the one in your OP. Since no copperheads are found in Iowa, I have no clue, though, as to what it might be.

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    Thanks Cappy. I was going to mention that rattlesnakes don't always have rattles. Looks like a rattler to me.

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    Looks like Joe.

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    Are you sure that's not Hillary Clinton in drag??????

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    here is a bull snake, common in Iowa
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    It looks like a Fox snake. The bands near the center and the tail are not a complete ring.

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    Look at the third picture in the top row of pictures in this link, looks a lot like a rat snake. Link is to a site for reptiles found in Iowa

    https://www.iowaherps.com/species/pa...phis_obsoletus

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    I was actually expecting a photo of Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
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    I agree with ND......
    Live snake= bad snake...................... especially with that triangular head........

    My advice is to kill on sight. Snake shot in a .357 or .45 works well......... Or a hoe or shovel to dehead it....


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    One that wouldn't be breathing much longer if it was around here.

    The head shape makes me think poisonous.

    We Southerners take snakes very seriously.

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    the triangular shape of the head is - shall we say - "worrisome" . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post
    Sorry, only pic I have. Apparently was seen next to my son's house. Thought the vaguely triangular head was 'interesting' but the tail is quite clear - no rattles. Wrong coloration for a copperhead, and we don't have them in Iowa anyhow.

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    The triangular or a spade shaped head means it is venomous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post


    Found in the Des Moines, Iowa area.

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    Gopher snake? Looks like the ones we have here in CA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestGardener View Post
    The triangular or a spade shaped head means it is venomous.
    Not always.
    The Pitts will flatten the head to look more menacing, and the snake in the pic looks defensive.

    Bogertophis subocularis (spell?) - sorry, can't remember regular name right now, has a naturally triangle shaped head on a slender neck, and is puppy dog easy going.

    Even the corn has a bit of a triangle, and depending on camera angle and markings, could look more pronounced.
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    Not a gopher, IMHO.
    Markings along the sides over the back don't match up.
    Good triangle head, however.

    Love the gophers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post
    Sorry, only pic I have. Apparently was seen next to my son's house. Thought the vaguely triangular head was 'interesting' but the tail is quite clear - no rattles. Wrong coloration for a copperhead, and we don't have them in Iowa anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy View Post
    Looks like Joe.



    I was gonna say Bob. I can positively ID him as Bob. He got carded the other night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reasonable Rascal View Post


    Found in the Des Moines, Iowa area.

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    The hognose snake has a somewhat triangular shaped head but is rear fanged and not usually hazardous to humans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhart View Post
    Do you want some? We have more than we need in Kentucky.
    After reading Goatlady's (you might remember her from here) account of being bitten I'll pass. A friend down in southern MO was bitten in his basement last year. They have plenty down there on their retreat. Good place to carry when out and about.

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    Two rows of subcaudal scales, or just one?

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    Definitely venomous. Copperhead ?
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    https://www.virginiaherpetologicalso...copperhead.htm

    The above link is a good compare and contrast for common snakes and the copperhead. One thing they emph, and it is in all the photos, as a plain top of the head with two dots. The snake in the OP doesn't match that. Also, while hard to tell for sure, the snake in the OP doesn't appear to have a thicker middle like the copperhead.

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    Possibly the rare North American Rattle Headed Copper Moccasin.

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