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    University of Kansas flies defaced American flag on campus (to protest Trump) - UPDATE, post 28

    Todd Starnes: University of Kansas flies defaced American flag on campus (on purpose!)
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    Patriots in the Heartland are furious after the University of Kansas posted a defaced American flag on campus. And it was intentional.

    The flag, smeared with black paint and a sock, is part of an art installation hosted by the Spencer Museum of Art called, “Pledges of Allegiance.”

    One of my readers passed along photos of the red, white, blue and black flag flapping in the breeze. And like any right-thinking, red-blooded American patriot he was enraged.

    “I’m ashamed to be a Jayhawk,” he told me. “Wake up, America.”

    The defaced and desecrated flag is the work of Josephine Meckseper, according to Creative Time, a public arts organization.

    “The flag is a collage of an American flag and one of my dripped paintings which resembles the contours of the United States,” Meckseper said in a post on Creative Time’s website. “I divided the shape of the country in two for the flag design to reflect a deeply polarized country in which a president has openly bragged about harassing women and is withdrawing from the Kyoto protocol and UN Human Rights Council.”

    So she defaced Old Glory to take a cheap shot at President Trump? How avant-garde.

    But that still doesn’t explain the black and white sock stuck to the side of the Star-Spangled Banner. Static cling, perhaps? Maybe she ran out of Bounce?

    “The black and white sock on my flag takes on a new symbolic meaning in light of the recent imprisonment of immigrant children at the border,” she said.

    I’m not sure I follow the symbolism unless the illegal immigrants are crossing the border sockless.

    “Let’s not forget that we all came from somewhere and are only recent occupants of this country – native cultures knew to (take) care of this continent much better for thousands of years before us,” she said. “It’s about time for our differences to unite us rather than divide us.”

    Speak for yourself, Ms. Meckseper.

    Neither the university nor the art museum returned messages seeking comment.

    Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach tells me he is outraged by the exhibit.

    "It's outrageous that you would see a public university displaying a desecrated flag," said Kobach, a Republican who is running for governor. "The fact they call it art does not make it any less of a desecration of our flag."

    Kobach said it was "doubly outrageous" that the flag is being flown at a university supported by taxpayer funds.

    "I call upon the university to take down that exhibit right away," he said. "It's inexplicable why they think it is OK to display an American flag in this manner."

    It is unfortunate the University of Kansas has chosen to associate itself with an artist who despises the very nature of what it means to be an American.

    “This is heinous,” one critic wrote on Facebook. “Publicly-funded, anti-American garbage from my alma mater.”

    Someone should let the grownups in charge of Jayhawk Country know that when you pledge allegiance to the flag you do it out of love for your country, not hate.

    Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary. His latest book is “The Deplorables’ Guide to Making America Great Again.” Follow him on Twitter @ToddStarnes and find him on Facebook.


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    Conservatives on campus (and there are many) need to destroy that exhibit. No need to give any reason. Just do it.

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    Aren't there laws against doing things like this?

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    Her artistic "flag" should be hauled down and properly retired, via burning respectfully. HER ART BE DAMNED!! And if she doesn't like that....throw her arse in the burn barrel as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by parable View Post
    Conservatives on campus (and there are many) need to destroy that exhibit. No need to give any reason. Just do it.
    Agreed. Via the desecration, it is not an American Flag, and by allowing it to be displayed on the University flagpole, there is an argument to be made that that flag is now taxpayer property.

    ETA: The latter would certainly be true if the university provided the original, unmolested flag flag as an art supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeholder View Post
    Aren't there laws against doing things like this?

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    I absolutely support the University's right to display this art.

    I also absolutely support and encourage the elected representatives for the state of Kansas to stand up to their responsibility and remove ALL state funding for the university for an entire year while they review if there might be better uses of the states tax revenue's.
    It might also be helpful to see if the university receives funding the Federal government (DOD, or any other departments) and to see if maybe ALL of that should be redirected to more appropriate venues.

    Also might be useful to find if there are any large private donors that might wish not to have their name and money associated with the institute of so called higher learning.

    I fully stand with their right to protest, and their right to accept the financial repercussions, wouldn't want them to get sullied taking money from the unwashed masses would we.

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    Patriots in the Heartland are furious after the University of Kansas posted a defaced American flag on campus. And it was intentional.


    The alumni should vote with their wallets the next time the university leans on them for money. Their true colors are coming forth. Would they have sanctioned such a protest when Obama was President? [Rhetorical question.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    I absolutely support the University's right to display this art.
    As do I, within the confines of an art gallery, not an official flagpole for the campus, and also with the proviso that free discussion from all sides is bountifully available from all viewers of this piece (of shit). It is further pondered, however, that the desecration of a proper flag in this manner is not in the uniform code for how a flag is to be respectfully treated, and if the university provided the flag, it could be in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
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    The defaced and desecrated flag is the work of Josephine Meckseper, according to Creative Time, a public arts organization.

    “The flag is a collage of an American flag and one of my dripped paintings which resembles the contours of the United States,” Meckseper said in a post on Creative Time’s website. “I divided the shape of the country in two for the flag design to reflect a deeply polarized country in which a president has openly bragged about harassing women and is withdrawing from the Kyoto protocol and UN Human Rights Council.

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    Where were these artists during the obamanation's reign of terror? Why were they not protesting the war on coal and impact it has on coal workers and their children? Why were they not protesting the attack on firearms ownership, a right explicitly enumerated in the document that constitutes our republic? Why were they not protesting the gruesome death of children in abortion mills?

    Oh yes, they were not there because those values and concerns of millions of Americans are irrelevant to them. If only everyone would agree with our deluded left-wing thought the country would not be divided.
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    trump is so deep in their heads they couldn't dig him out with a spoon

    I wish that I was good at art--I see a cartoon with say pelosi's (or any other big dhim) head with a window to her brain and in the center of her brain a small sign that reads "Trump lives here"

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    We must stop financing these unAmerican institutions and the people who infest them. All Federal and State funding of colleges and universities must be stopped immediately. We, the American Taxpayers, are funding the very people who want us dead and gone and our country destroyed.

    “recent” and “imprisionment”. She uses the language spread by the Clinton and Soros funded marchers, politicians, university professors and proclaimed by the main stream media 24 hours a day. Where was Josephine Meckseper’s outrage when these “children” were being “imprisoned” under the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations? Where is her idiot outrage about the south of the border parents who send their children north by themselves? Where is her outrage when these “children” are being used to haul deadly narcotics into the United States to poison and kill AMERICAN CHILDREN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeholder View Post
    Aren't there laws against doing things like this?

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    Actually, isn't there a right to do exactly this and thousands have died to protect it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMoreLibs View Post
    Actually, isn't there a right to do exactly this and thousands have died to protect it?
    A state-sponsored entity is not entitled to display political statements, "art" or otherwise, on the flagpole. The flagpole is for official flags of the country and/or the state. I'm sure the university has an art gallery space that could have accommodated the artist's work.
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    It'd be interesting to see how these little turds would react to jars with models of their favorite leftists (Marx, Alinsky, Castro, etc.)

    OR flags of Cuba, Venezuela and other socialist paradises - then filled with urine and called 'ART'...


    Seems like 'fair play' to put out equally offensive art -
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    19 University of Kansas (KU) Chancelor Email and KU Telephone Number

    Time to send KU emails and telephone calls about the defacing of our American Flag and the attack by the left on America and President. Call the number below and ask for the Chancellor's office and inform them of your outrage and unacceptability of this.

    Chancellor Douglas A. Girod
    chancellor@ku.edu
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    1450 Jayhawk Blvd.
    Lawrence, KS 66045
    785-864-2700

    The email that I sent to Chancellor Girod.

    Chancellor Douglas A. Girod
    The University of Kansas
    1450 Jayhawk Blvd.
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    785-864-2700
    chancellor@ku.edu

    Chancellor Girod,

    This is an insult and totally unacceptable to America, Americans, American Veterans and to our American Flag for the University of Kansas to allow a defaced American Flag to be flown over the University of Kansas campus.

    How could you and the University of Kansas allow this defaced American Flag be flow over the University of Kansas campus. This is beyond shameful, it is an outrage.

    There will be a continuing outcry by the KU alumni and Americans over this.

    This defaced flag needs to be removed and burned by the rules governing the American Flag.

    Chancellor Girod what are you going to do?

    Enter name & contact info.


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    It IS against the law. I thought so!

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/700


    U.S. Code › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 33 › § 700

    18 U.S. Code § 700 - Desecration of the flag of the United States; penalties

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    (a)
    (1) Whoever knowingly mutilates, defaces, physically defiles, burns, maintains on the floor or ground, or tramples upon any flag of the United States shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

    (2) This subsection does not prohibit any conduct consisting of the disposal of a flag when it has become worn or soiled.

    (b) As used in this section, the term “flag of the United States” means any flag of the United States, or any part thereof, made of any substance, of any size, in a form that is commonly displayed.

    (c) Nothing in this section shall be construed as indicating an intent on the part of Congress to deprive any State, territory, possession, or the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico of jurisdiction over any offense over which it would have jurisdiction in the absence of this section.

    (d)

    (1) An appeal may be taken directly to the Supreme Court of the United States from any interlocutory or final judgment, decree, or order issued by a United States district court ruling upon the constitutionality of subsection (a).

    (2) The Supreme Court shall, if it has not previously ruled on the question, accept jurisdiction over the appeal and advance on the docket and expedite to the greatest extent possible.

    (Added Pub. L. 90–381, § 1, July 5, 1968, 82 Stat. 291; amended Pub. L. 101–131, §§ 2, 3, Oct. 28, 1989, 103 Stat. 777.)


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    Arrest em, it is against the law to deface or fly a damaged flag.

    I think the fine outta be one billion dollars a day.

    and put any who defend it in prison for 30 years or more, no parole, general population at max security prisons.
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    “little turds would react to jars with models of their favorite leftists (Marx, Alinsky, Castro, etc.)“

    Put little turds in the jars?
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    Remove all state and federal money from the university. Problem solved.

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    Gee... no more Pell Grant funding; no more gov't student loans. Taking a hit to your enrollment and tuition bottomline? OH WELL... you chose to display this insult officially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaken1 View Post
    Where were these artists during the obamanation's reign of terror? Why were they not protesting the war on coal and impact it has on coal workers and their children? Why were they not protesting the attack on firearms ownership, a right explicitly enumerated in the document that constitutes our republic? Why were they not protesting the gruesome death of children in abortion mills?

    Oh yes, they were not there because those values and concerns of millions of Americans are irrelevant to them. If only everyone would agree with our deluded left-wing thought the country would not be divided.
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    . . . "bites the very hand that feeds them" comes to mind.

    Turn off the Federal and State money spigots.

    Watch what happens, next . . .


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    We either support free speech or we don’t. I do. Let them fly that flag. And remember who supports it for that time in the near future when it matters most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canis-major View Post
    We either support free speech or we don’t. I do. Let them fly that flag. And remember who supports it for that time in the near future when it matters most.
    Defacing the flag is AGAINST THE LAW. It is not protected free speech.

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    UPDATE: Desecrated American flag moved at University of Kansas

    Todd Starnes: Desecrated American flag moved at University of Kansas

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    Starnes university of kansas flag

    Facing national outrage after my report on the “Todd Starnes Radio Show” and publication of my op-ed by Fox News, the University of Kansas on Wednesday moved an American flag that had been desecrated to protest President Trump and his border security policies.

    Kansas Gov. Jeff Colyer, a Republican, told me that he personally called the university’s chancellor Wednesday and demanded the flag be taken down from an outdoor flagpole on the campus.

    “The disrespectful display of a desecrated American flag on the KU campus is absolutely unacceptable,” the governor told me. “Men and women have fought and died for that flag and to use it in this manner is beyond disrespectful.”

    Colyer said he was livid that a “taxpayer-funded institution would allow such a display of our sacred flag.”

    A university spokesperson said the flag was part of a display from the nationwide "Pledges of Allegiance" public arts project that went up July 5 and is at 13 locations around the country.

    University Chancellor Douglas Girod said in a statement that “the conversation around the display has generated public safety concerns for our campus community.”

    “While we want to foster difficult dialogue, we cannot allow that dialogue to put our people or property in harm’s way,” the chancellor said. He said the flag exhibit would be moved inside the Spencer Museum of Art “where we can continue the important conversation it has generated.”

    The chancellor did not offer an apology to the scores of military veterans, alumni or taxpayers who were offended by the flag desecration.

    Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach said on my nationally syndicated radio program that he is outraged by the exhibit.

    "It's outrageous that you would see a public university displaying a desecrated flag," said Kobach, a Republican who is running for governor against Colyer in the Aug. 7 GOP primary.

    "The fact they call it art does not make it any less of a desecration of our flag," Kobach added.

    The defaced and desecrated flag is the work of Josephine Meckseper, according to Creative Time, a public arts organization.

    “The flag is a collage of an American flag and one of my dripped paintings which resembles the contours of the United States,” Meckseper said in a post on Creative Time’s website. “I divided the shape of the country in two for the flag design to reflect a deeply polarized country in which a president has openly bragged about harassing women and is withdrawing from the Kyoto protocol and UN Human Rights Council.”

    As for the symbol of a black and white sock stuck to the side of the Star-Spangled Banner?

    “The black and white sock on my flag takes on a new symbolic meaning in light of the recent imprisonment of immigrant children at the border,” she said.

    I’m not sure I follow the symbolism unless illegal immigrants crossing our border are sockless.

    “Let’s not forget that we all came from somewhere and are only recent occupants of this country – native cultures knew to (take) care of this continent much better for thousands of years before us,” Meckseper said. “It’s about time for our differences to unite us rather than divide us.”

    Ironically, a good many red-blooded American taxpayers were united in their disgust and outrage of the university’s utter contempt for Old Glory.

    And thank goodness the Sunflower State has lawmakers who are unafraid to call out the academic elites and stand up for the red, white and blue.

    Todd Starnes is host of Fox News & Commentary. His latest book is “The Deplorables’ Guide to Making America Great Again.” Follow him on Twitter @ToddStarnes and find him on Facebook.


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    Modern art - shmart. Fart. Maybe something we can all appreciate?



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    And the Governor allowed the exhibit to remain intact and just be moved inside a building? I don't think so. Grow a pair, call that commie chancellor back and tell him to do it again and do it right this time. Our Honored dead are watching. You know, the ones who died so this idiot could live free, be a Chancellor of a University, and enable comunism.
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    Can the governor fire him?

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    I think the legislature could cut off or reduce funding for the university. Obviously the chancellor thinks insulting veterans and our honored dead is a good idea. Makes me wonder what kind of Marxist propaganda is woven into their curricula.
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    Firing anyone doesn't make a difference.

    For those who read past my earlier headline ;-) the only thing the institutions understand is money.

    You remove or even cut back on the money (say a 20% reduction for the upcoming year), you have their attention. You attach nicely worded memo that not only show's exactly how much LESS they are getting next year but you praise their ability to totally disregard the sacrifice of the men and women who have bled and died and their ability to make up the lost State and Federal revenue in the new money's they are bringing in by their "Art" display.

    You not only get their attention but other institutions infested with activists will get the message as well, there is a price to be paid for constantly sticking a finger in the eye of the people who give you money.

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    Makes me ashamed to admit I attended School at KU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
    For those who read past my earlier headline ;-) the only thing the institutions understand is money.

    You remove or even cut back on the money (say a 20% reduction for the upcoming year), you have their attention. You attach nicely worded memo that not only show's exactly how much LESS they are getting next year but you praise their ability to totally disregard the sacrifice of the men and women who have bled and died and their ability to make up the lost State and Federal revenue in the new money's they are bringing in by their "Art" display.

    You not only get their attention but other institutions infested with activists will get the message as well, there is a price to be paid for constantly sticking a finger in the eye of the people who give you money.
    Would it be acceptable to you if they displayed a flag with a likeness of you in some very comprising position? Point is, where do you draw a line? Also, I'll bet being fired would make a difference to the president of the school, don't ya think?

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    KU is a general embarrassment to the good citizens of Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Nettleton View Post
    Would it be acceptable to you if they displayed a flag with a likeness of you in some very comprising position? Point is, where do you draw a line? Also, I'll bet being fired would make a difference to the president of the school, don't ya think?
    Fire him, the "Art" instructor or whomever was responsible for even submitting the idea and cut the funds. THAT will wake them up.
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    but a display of an 'art" picture of the remains of a child who has undergone partial-birth abortion at 9-months gestation would be considered inflammatory and a host of other derogatives by the leftists at that campus, and would have been removed before it could warm the wall it was hung on..........
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