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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerJohn View Post
    It would be virtually for us to make it as uncomfortable here as it is for them in their native countries.

    Would you want to live where gang membership is virtually mandatory? Dealing with the problem of having MS 13 after you is not a problem that I'd stick around for, either.
    Well, many are NOT fleeing gangs or crimes - did you see the NEWS concerning the 'caravan' that recently arrived? Even the NEWS tells us how they are 'groomed' to say the 'right words' to get accepted into the U.S. - they are told to say they are 'fleeing' gangs, rape, kidnap, etc.

    Most are looking for freebies on our dime.

    Uh....you looked at California, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New York....lately? These illegal young people come here and some end up in MS-13 How do you think MS-13 numbers grow? Many of these 'children' end up in these gangs.
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    Also, when these kids come over alone or with 'made up' families, they end up as prostitutes, gang members, drug users/sellers...this is a problem. They come over uneducated and turn to the opportunities the dark side offers them.

    Just turning them loose in the country is irresponsible to them and America.

    (CNN)Over the years, members of the international gang MS-13 have been convicted of a number of crimes across the country, ranging from racketeering to murder. MS-13, also known as La Mara Salvatrucha is also one of the largest criminal organizations in the United States, according to the US Attorney's Office in Massachusetts. https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/03/us/ms...nal/index.html
    "Apres la Guerre."

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    "Again, you can't have a first world country with a fourth world population."

    So true!

    Other countries 'get to' pick who comes into their country - Mexico has strict laws concerning this - if you don't have the ability to support yourself and your family, they deny you entry.

    Why is America denied the right to 'PICK' who comes here?

    We are not getting the best of society.

    If we keep letting in populations of people that take more than than add, we'll soon be the mess they are fleeing!

    They are bringing in the gangs and poverty - and sucking down our resources for hospitals, schools, welfare, etc.

    And how much is this prison population costing us??

    - Tuesday, August 1, 2017
    A stunning 22 percent of inmates in the federal prison population are immigrants who have either already been deemed to be in the country illegally or who the government is looking to put in deportation proceedings, the administration said Tuesday.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...on-population/


    There should be a special tax for the people who want these illegals here so they can pay their health care bills, their education costs, their incarceration bills, their room and board. You want them here - you pay for them!
    "Apres la Guerre."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Children 12 and under, cannot legally break the law in the same way an adult can be considered to do so, at least not under US law; that is why they have family court systems (for good or ill).

    Again, I made a very clear distinction between an older teenager and actual children; usually defined as somewhere around 12 or so and under - part of the problem is the US legal system treats everyone under 18 as a "minor child."

    Under US law, teenagers CAN break the law, and be punished for it but not always in the same way as a full adult; though in most States by 16 or 17 they can be tried as an adult for serious crimes.

    I'm not talking about the 16 and 17-year-olds, I'm talking about the 10-year-olds where were mentioned as being in this facility.

    If things are too over-crowded I would have no problem moving the older teens in a tent-city or other more adult detention center, to make room for the younger children for which the former Wallmart dorms sound reasonable holding area to me anyway.
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    Even 3 year olds know when they are stealing cookies

    Ask any Vet GI the age of the Vietnamese child soldiers, or Iraq or Afghan Veterans
    Even some of our urban combat warriors in Chicago or Baltimore are still
    In elementary grade schools

    Kids or not, it's still an Invasion
    Similar to cockroaches, there reaches a time when you notice and then a time when you have to begin to exterminate

    It's not up to left leaning liberals to destroy ALL these Nations without taking into consideration OUR CULTURE OUR PRIORITIES OUR TAX FUNDING OUR FUTURE OUTCOMES OUR DECENDENTS and then declare us racist for complaining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubble Head View Post
    We had a Thread during the Bam Years about abandon Walmart being converted and beefed up. Could it be?
    That was my first thought too.
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    So why aren't they just shipping them back to where they came from?

    They don't have any rights here.
    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Oh. That's why.



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    Jon Knotts
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    52s53 seconds ago

    #BREAKING: BREAKING NEWS: White House, in reversal, embraces Dreamer legislation
    http://www.politico.com


    Devon Heinen
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    2m2 minutes ago

    #BREAKING (via WH Press Pool)
    White House stmt: #Trump supports #GoodlatteBill and House leadership bill on #immigration. "He would sign either."
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    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    Well, many are NOT fleeing gangs or crimes - did you see the NEWS concerning the 'caravan' that recently arrived? Even the NEWS tells us how they are 'groomed' to say the 'right words' to get accepted into the U.S. - they are told to say they are 'fleeing' gangs, rape, kidnap, etc.
    They need to know that they need to tell immigration/asylum officials why they are applying for asylum. After all, they have no documentation, having fled their homes. They have no mailing addresses from which they can apply for asylum. Presenting themselves to officials upon arrival as asylum-seekers suggests that they are actually asylum-seekers not avoiding ICE so they can just sneak in. The asylum-seekers are not "apprehended" they report to US authorities upon entering. Criminals do not generally report to the police as soon as they have committed their crimes.Treating them like criminals is reprehensible and unchristian. If their asylum petition is rejected they do not become misdemanor-comitting criminals, they are rejected asylum-seekers.

    Separating children from their parents is unnecessarily cruel. It's been said that people in jail don't get to bring their children with them. People in jail are suspect of being criminals. Asylum-seekers are not. They've followed US requirements and applied for asylum. In any case Illegal immigration is a misdemeanor not a felony. Long-term incarceration and separation of children from their parents who are suspected of having committed misdemeanors is not something that we have done in the past, not at the border or anywhere.

    In any case, most immigration violations are from those who have overstayed their visas and will likely remain so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarmerJohn View Post
    They need to know that they need to tell immigration/asylum officials why they are applying for asylum. After all, they have no documentation, having fled their homes. They have no mailing addresses from which they can apply for asylum. Presenting themselves to officials upon arrival as asylum-seekers suggests that they are actually asylum-seekers not avoiding ICE so they can just sneak in. The asylum-seekers are not "apprehended" they report to US authorities upon entering. Criminals do not generally report to the police as soon as they have committed their crimes.Treating them like criminals is reprehensible and unchristian. If their asylum petition is rejected they do not become misdemanor-comitting criminals, they are rejected asylum-seekers.

    Separating children from their parents is unnecessarily cruel. It's been said that people in jail don't get to bring their children with them. People in jail are suspect of being criminals. Asylum-seekers are not. They've followed US requirements and applied for asylum. In any case Illegal immigration is a misdemeanor not a felony. Long-term incarceration and separation of children from their parents who are suspected of having committed misdemeanors is not something that we have done in the past, not at the border or anywhere.

    In any case, most immigration violations are from those who have overstayed their visas and will likely remain so.
    And that's the whole problem - most of these people are NOT refugees. They aren't 'fleeing' any thing. They just want to come for the freebies.

    If you'd followed the news on these 'caravan's you'd see what is going on.

    These 'asylum seekers' were offered asylum by the Mexican government; Mexico said they'd take them - so why didn't they stop there? Because Mexico doesn't offer the freebies we do!!! If they were really 'fleeing' something bad they would have stopped when they hit Mexico.

    Flooding our borders and then demanding we staff better to get them processed sooner is just B.S. Their making demands at our border is B.S.

    We need laws to end the freebies and keep out the rift raft.

    They could have applied to immigrate to the U.S. - why not? It's easier to come and demand it at our border! As someone else wrote it's a 'sympathy invasion'.
    "Apres la Guerre."

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    Nazi America is here.

    When do they open the crematoriums?
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    @ Farmer John

    When seeking asylum you apply at the first border you cross

    There is no asylum 3 or 4 or 5 border crossings later
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    So why aren't they just shipping them back to where they came from?

    They don't have any rights here.
    Actually they do. Everyone here, citizen or not has constitutional rights to due process.

    Watching this is getting interesting. When a supposedly republican president pisses off both the National Association of Evangelicals and the Southern Baptist Convention he has a real problem. It's my guess that those groups were triggered by AG Sessions and Press Sec. Sanders use of scripture to support the family separation program.
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    Actually they do. Everyone here, citizen or not has constitutional rights to due process.


    Is that in the same book as the Rule Of Law, FJ?

    When the rule of law gets trashed for some folks, it's trashed for EVERYONE. It ALL goes extralegal/non-judicial. Anarchy. Tilt, game over.
    The wonder of our time isnít how angry we are at politics and politicians; itís how little weíve done about it. - Fran Porretto
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    Caged Migrant Children Photo Goes Viral As Left Rages At Trump; Except It Happened Under Obama (*fair use)


    by Tyler Durden

    Tue, 05/29/2018 - 04:21

    A photograph of two migrant children sleeping in a cage at an ICE detention facility quickly went viral on Sunday after several prominent liberals tweeted it in a white-hot rage at President Trump's immigration policy.




    After a laundry list of journalists and public figures angrily tweeted the photo - including CNN's Hadas Gold, NYT Mag's editor-in-chief Jake Silverstein, Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau and former LA mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, they deleted their tweets in shame when it emerged that the photo was taken in 2014, under Obama.

    Indeed - nobody thought to check the date on the attached article, published in June of 2014.

    The award for the lamest excuse goes to CNN's Hadas Gold, who wrote "Deleted previous tweet because gave impression of recent photos (they're from 2014)"

    Continued here:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...happened-under
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post

    Actually they do. Everyone here, citizen or not has constitutional rights to due process.


    Is that in the same book as the Rule Of Law, FJ?

    When the rule of law gets trashed for some folks, it's trashed for EVERYONE. It ALL goes extralegal/non-judicial. Anarchy. Tilt, game over.
    Thanks for your support Dozdoats. I don't get much of that here.

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    Constitutionally the response should be you broke the law, therefore you must suffer the consequences. I understand that children under 12 are considered special circumstances, however that does not mean that they get to break the law with impunity. They do not get a pat on the head, automatic citizenship, and enrollment into Entitlements that no one in their family has paid into. If we are going to apply some of the law, then we must him apply all of the law. You do not get that which you are not entitled to.
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