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    A Warning - The Real Shock Was the Reaction of the Americans

    The Real Shock Was the Reaction of the Americans

    "Soon," said the letter, "America Will Be Ours".

    "Ours?"

    The writer, it became clear, was an extremist Muslim in the U.S. who claimed to be a reputable religious preacher. With each new word, concern grew.

    He pointed out, throughout the letter, the "sinful" ways of the West: dancing, drinking, dating...

    He expressed disgust that most women did not wear the hijab or participate in prayer five times a day. Then he got straight to the point: "Ours," he explained, represented Muslims like him.

    The sentiment is hardly a new one. A person hears similar proclamations from many Muslim extremists throughout the years. The real shock was not letter but the reaction of many Americans after seeing it.

    Such a thing, they said, could never happen. The writer's words were "just bluster," nothing to be taken seriously. Most surprisingly, they stated -- honestly -- that Muslims who speak of such intentions do not really mean what they say, so these threats should not be cause for concern.

    The history of the two nations where I grew up -- Iran and Syria -- taught all of us there a big lesson about living in this kind of ignorance: the reality of how quickly a nation can be consumed by the philosophies of a religious state. An authoritarian and malicious regime, as exists now in Iran -- the world's leading sponsor of terrorism and brutal even to its own people -- is something we cannot forget.

    In a few centuries, in Syria, where more than 90% percent of the population were Christians, and in Iran where an overwhelming majority of citizens were Zoroastrians, the demography drastically shifted to majority-Muslim. Neither nation could have anticipated such a change.

    While many may underestimate the radical preacher's claims that "Soon, America Will Be Ours", for extremist Muslims these beliefs are strongly and deeply rooted.

    Many extremists believe that their religious desire -- for a "Muslim takeover of the White House, a directive from Muhammad himself " -- is coming true in the US. Religiously speaking, for these Muslims, ruling America is Allah's (God's) word, a sacred promise is coming to fruition.

    A recent survey and demographic research released by the Pew Research Center found that Muslims will soon overtake members of other religions, including Jews, as the second-largest religious group in the United States.

    This issue should not be taken lightly. What does being the second-largest religion in a country mean? Voters impact local and national politics, swing domestic elections, elect more representatives from the same religious affiliation, are influential enough to determine who the next president of the United States may be, and change the laws of the land. All it takes is a subtle shift in power for the entire society, political system and culture of a nation to be changed.

    The number of Muslims in the US has increased by 40% in just five years -- between 2010-2015 -- while in the same period the non-Muslim population of the US has grown by only five percent. This means that the Muslim population is growing almost eight times faster than the non-Muslim population in the US.

    As an adult, in the Muslim world, I came to hear verses and hadiths frequently used by extremists and carved into their minds. To them, these are the true instructions and predictions of the most powerful being. Those Muslims strongly believe that these verses and hadiths (sayings of Muhammad) will come true because they are issued by Allah (God) or by his messenger, Muhammad. Allah, for instance, says in the Qur'an Chapter (9:33) sūrat al-tawbah (The Repentance):

    "It is he (Allah) who has sent his Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), in order for it to be dominant over all other religions, even though the Mushrikoon (disbelievers) hate it."

    A popular hadith is:

    "Verily Allah has shown me the eastern and western part of the earth, and I saw the authority of my Ummah (nation) dominate all that I saw"

    Some extremist Muslims believe that Allah and Muhammad predicted that they would rule over America even before America was discovered by Europeans. As a certain radical Muslim activist said on ABC news, "Indeed, we believe that one day, the flag of Islam will fly over the White House." He quoted a saying of Muhammad, from the Muslim scholar Al-Tabarani in the 10th-century. "The final hour," he said, "will not come until Muslims conquer the White House."

    Many extremists also insist that Muslims do not need to be the majority in a country in order to take over the government: "A small portion of Muslims will rise and conquer the White House."

    In the belief of fundamentalist Muslims, it is the obligation of every Muslim to pave the way for Islam to dominate America. They are encouraged to use various methods to ensure that this occurs -- these include force, violence and waging jihad (holy war).

    Any action taken for the purpose of accomplishing that goal is applauded by Muslim extremists worldwide. Islamists and Islamist states, for instance, heavily praised, and quoted Louis Farrakhan when he predicted that, "God will destroy America at the hands of the Muslims. God will not give Japan or Europe the honor of bringing down the United States; this is an honor God will bestow upon Muslims."

    There is historical proof of great nations succumbing to the ideals of extreme and determined radical groups. History has often taught hard lessons to powerful nations. Before one dismisses the danger America faces, take the time to learn about the past and just how easily and swiftly irreversible changes can happen: Russia in 1917, Germany 1933, Egypt in 1952, Iran in 1979, and so forth. Do not underestimate the ability of radical Islam to take over your government and impose Sharia law throughout this once free nation.

    Americans should not think that they will somehow be an exception to that historical rule. This sense of immunity and dismissal led to the downfall of many countries throughout time. If Americans do not take the issue seriously, history may teach them the hard way that what once seemed impossible is here.
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...m-islamists-us





    Can't happen in the west? Look at Belgium, today:

    Belgium: Two Newly Elected Muslim Politicians in Brussels Vow to Implement Sharia
    https://www.christianheadlines.com/b...nt-sharia.html

    Islam party in Belgium wants to create an Islamic State and separate men and women
    For the second time in 6 years the ‘Islam’ party will participate in Belgium’s municipal elections. The party wants to create an Islamic State and separate men and women in public transport, Belgian newspaper HLN reports.

    “Our goal is a 100% Islamic State, but we don’t mean we want to oblige the headscarf,” the party’s founder Redouane Ahrouch says. “By establishing Sharia law we want to follow the way of the prophet and the Quran”, he adds.

    The Islam party clearly focuses on conservative Muslims and already has two members elected as a result of the 2012 elections. This year it will participate in 28 municipalities

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/04/is...men-and-women/

    Belgium: First Islamic State in Europe?
    The leaders of Belgium's ISLAM Party apparently want to turn Belgium into an Islamic State. They call it "Islamist democracy" and have set a target date: 2030.

    "The program is confusingly simple: replace all the civil and penal codes with sharia law. Period". — French magazine Causeur.

    "The European capital [Brussels] will be Muslim in twenty years". — Le Figaro.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1...-islamic-state

    Miller (MR) fears the Islamic party will be popular and wants to ban it
    http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium...ants-to-ban-it






    Can't happen in America?

    Look around at what is NOT being reported on!


    First, look at the stated goals and objectives of the Islamist parties in America:

    Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Qu’ran should be the highest authority in America.”
    - Omar M. Ahmed CAIR Chairman

    I believe that as Muslims, we should participate in the system to safeguard our interests and try to bring gradual change. We must not forget that Allah’s rules have to be established in all lands and our efforts should lead to that direction.”
    - Muzammil H. Siddiqi Board member for the Islamic Society of North America ( ISNA )

    An FBI Memo describes the Muslim organizations such as the MSA and ISNA, as having, “Declared war on the United States, Israel and any other country they deem as an enemy of Islam. The common bond between these various organizations is both religious and political with the underlying common goal being to further the holy war.

    The ICNA ( Islamic Circle of North America ) handbook ( Tarbiyah Guide ) openly states:

    “…wage war so that the evil sovereignty of beings, other than that of Allah is wiped out. And only the Law of God operates in the world. The sovereignty of God alone is acknowledged and man becomes submissive exclusively to God.

    Divine law has to be re-introduced in the many so-called Muslim countries where governments now rule according to imported capitalist or communist constitutions, and Islamic law is either totally extinct or relegated to a few areas of minor importance. Likewise, Muslim countries, where Islamic law is on the books but secular laws are in force, have also to be brought in line with the Shari’ah as it pertains to all aspects of life. The acceptance of non-Islamic rule in place of Shari’ah in Muslim lands is Shirk and an act of Kufr. Those in a position to change it must do so, while those unable to do so must speak out against the rule of Kufr and call for the implementation of Shari’ah. If even this becomes impossible, un-Islamic government must be sincerely hated and despised for the pleasure of God and the upholding of Tawheed
    .”


    Have they made any strides in this area?

    Judge for yourself:


    JETPAC
    Jetpac (Justice Education Technology Political Advocacy Center) seeks to build a strong American Muslim political infrastructure and increase our community’s influence and engagement.

    We will take our place at the table across all levels of government.

    Our philosophy of change is rooted in a community-based approach, grassroots mobilization, civics training, and technology application. We have developed our own training curriculum, as well as proprietary social media technology and automation tools, to give our Fellows the skills and resources they need to win elections
    https://www.jet-pac.com/

    Campaign Launches to Get More Muslims Active in Politics
    A nationwide campaign to get more Muslim Americans involved in local politics is being launched by a Massachusetts nonprofit.

    Jetpac Inc. is focused on training Muslim Americans how to leverage social media, data analysis and other critical political tools to build winning campaigns for city council, school committee and other ballot races

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...litics-n715866

    How American Muslims Are Trying to Take Back Their Government
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...office/522585/

    Training Hopes to Build 'Pipeline' for Muslim Candidates
    Karen Hinks had spent approximately a year training women of color to run for office in Orange County, California, when President Donald Trump was elected.

    During her training sessions, she saw that Muslims were especially underrepresented in area politics. Now her organization is preparing to launch training sessions to provide the county's Muslims the tools to run for local political office.

    “There are no Muslim women who have ever been elected to office [in Orange County],” Hinks told NBC News. “That then led us to approach the leadership of the mosques in Orange County to say, ‘We want to do a training with Muslim Americans — what do you think the interest is going to be?’ And they were all for the idea.”

    Starting April 15, Hinks' organization, "WELead OC" and Rima Nashashibi, former vice chair of the Democratic Party of Orange County, are scheduled to hold a five-week Muslim candidate training program to teach aspiring politicians — both women and men — about fundraising, field operations, social media, messaging, communications, and volunteer recruitment

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-a...ection-n745196

    The blue Muslim wave: American Muslims launch political campaigns, hope to deliver ‘sweet justice’ to Trump
    Fayaz Nawabi has never met President Trump. But he credits the president with convincing him to run for office.

    Nawabi, a 31-year-old candidate for San Diego City Council, supports almost everything that Trump opposes: He is pro-affordable housing, pro-environment, pro-immigrant and pro-refugee. That makes him part of the blue wave of new liberal candidates spurred to run by Trump’s election and policies.

    But Nawabi is also part of a notable subset: the blue Muslim wave.

    More than 90 American Muslims, nearly all of them Democrats, are running for public office across the country this year.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...=.38fb116c77ef

    The Red Green Alliance
    Analysis of the alliance between radical Islam and leftist utopianism now so clearly in place, it makes many wonder how these two seemingly diametrically opposed philosophies could align
    https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy....Green_Axis.pdf

    More than 90 Muslims, nearly all Democrats, running for public office across the U.S.
    https://counterjihadreport.com/2018/...cross-the-u-s/

    There are more than 150 Muslims who have been elected to different offices
    http://www.allied-media.com/muslim_a...s/poltical.htm

    Maryland Group Recruits Muslims to Run for Office
    Seeking a larger representation in politics, a political action committee launched a new initiative to train 30 American Muslims to run for state and local offices in Maryland and across the country in 2018.

    “If we are not at the table of democracy, we may end up on the menu of authoritarianism,” Hamza Khan, a longtime Democratic activist in Montgomery County who is executive director of the Pluralism Project, told The Washington Post.

    “By training Muslim candidates in the skills they need to run for and win political office, we intend to empower Muslims to take back control of their narrative in the American experience.”

    http://aboutislam.net/muslim-issues/...es-run-office/
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    I remember when I lived in London in the early 90's and there was a lot of dislike and anger at all the Arabs in moving into and buying up their town. I would have never guessed London and UK would be where they are today.

    Where will US be, in even less time?

    Deep down they believe this is the future. I lived among them, listened to them, and know this is what they believe is true. For many Americans church and religion happen mostly on Sunday. They are different.

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    Islam teaches, believe like us or we will cut your head off!

    Jesus taught (teaches) love thy neighbor and if the neighbor refuses to listen to the gospel, shake the dust off your feet and go on your way.
    Possibly a "socially retarded" redneck rebel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    Islam teaches, believe like us or we will cut your head off!

    Jesus taught (teaches) love thy neighbor and if the neighbor refuses to listen to the gospel, shake the dust off your feet and go on your way.
    Pretty amazing that so many think it is all the same God...
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    Not the same God at all.
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    I had a conservative tell me there is nothing wrong with the Koran or being Muslim. The poor thing got a bit of an ear full and education I don't think he expected.
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    Whether it happens or not is going to depend upon quite a few more things than "just" the demographics the lead article pointed out. It also has to be remembered that the time period for that "surge" (2010 to 2015) was at the height of the Obama Era.

    Yes, Europe can easily be seen as going "soft in the head" considering the political ideology that's overrun the place (two World Wars and the US babysitting them so they could channel their ideology's inner hot house plant helped that along and only now start to see the results of said same).

    The question then becomes can they still be as "mean" and "bloody minded" as their late ancestors when they no longer have a choice?

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    Ya can't find a better example of a False Christ than Mohammed.

    Matthew 24 is coming alive right before our eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    The question then becomes can they still be as "mean" and "bloody minded" as their late ancestors when they no longer have a choice?


























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    And we let it happen each and every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF&P View Post
    Ya can't find a better example of a False Christ than Mohammed.

    Matthew 24 is coming alive right before our eyes.
    Amen to that!
    2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people. - 2 Tim 3 NIV

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    I keep saying

    Demography is destiny.

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    Mooslime belief that the world will be theirs is based on faith.

    Christian belief that Jesus will be returning is also based on faith.

    Mooslimes are increasing in number rapidly. Christians are decreasing in number, rapidly.

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    Americans today who wish to have their nation continue, have two choices where mooslimes and other societal parasites are concerned - outbreed, or outkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    I keep saying

    Demography is destiny.

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    Mooslime belief that the world will be theirs is based on faith.

    Christian belief that Jesus will be returning is also based on faith.

    Mooslimes are increasing in number rapidly. Christians are decreasing in number, rapidly.

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    Americans today who wish to have their nation continue, have two choices where mooslimes and other societal parasites are concerned - outbreed, or outkill.
    And we know which one is easier....

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    And if I shoot the bastards as I should, I'm the one who goes to prison. Bullsh**.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    And if I shoot the bastards as I should, I'm the one who goes to prison. Bullsh**.
    Only at this time under current conditions. When things in CONUS "change" and the Jihadis start imitating regularly bands of rampaging Comanche, as they're just short of doing in the EU, it will be a completely different set of problems...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    I keep saying

    Demography is destiny.

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    Mooslime belief that the world will be theirs is based on faith.

    Christian belief that Jesus will be returning is also based on faith.

    Mooslimes are increasing in number rapidly. Christians are decreasing in number, rapidly.

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    Americans today who wish to have their nation continue, have two choices where mooslimes and other societal parasites are concerned - outbreed, or outkill.
    See the thread on Israeli demographics.

    I remember hearing the Muslims say that they will defeat us because they love having large families and we do not (any longer).


    I also remember this verse--that when we ignore / reject God's ways:

    I am the LORD your God...If you walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; then....I will give peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: ... neither shall the sword go through your land. And you shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. For I will have respect to you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you...


    But if you will not listen to me, and will not do all these commandments; 15And if you shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that you will not do all my commandments, but that you break my covenant: 16I also will do this to you; ...And I will set my face against you, and you shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and you shall flee when none pursues you...I will break the pride of your power;...I will bring a sword on you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant:...And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it. And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.


    Leviticus 26
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    See the thread on Israeli demographics.

    I remember hearing the Muslims say that they will defeat us because they love having large families and we do not (any longer).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Only at this time under current conditions. When things in CONUS "change" and the Jihadis start imitating regularly bands of rampaging Comanche, as they're just short of doing in the EU, it will be a completely different set of problems...
    Judging strictly by European events, I am not so sure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    I remember hearing the Muslims say that they will defeat us because they love having large families and we do not (any longer).
    How many of these large (read: expensive) Muslim families got their start and/or keep their large families economically afloat via the U.S. taxpayer supported welfare state?

    Would be an interesting study, across multiple regions where Muslims have settled in the U.S.

    I suspect that the Muslims would not have had as much success in settling in the U.S. (or the EU, for that matter) were it not for significant contributions given to them by the welfare programs.

    As usual, follow the money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Judging strictly by European events, I am not so sure...
    Remember, we aren't "Europeans"...We're predominantly the decendants of those who ran from or were run out of those countries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Only at this time under current conditions. When things in CONUS "change" and the Jihadis start imitating regularly bands of rampaging Comanche, as they're just short of doing in the EU, it will be a completely different set of problems...
    Perhaps this is why the left has a full court press going on to take our guns, at least the ones suited for self defense. Perhaps they do not want us to fight back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intothatgoodnight View Post
    How many of these large (read: expensive) Muslim families got their start and/or keep their large families economically afloat via the U.S. taxpayer supported welfare state?

    Would be an interesting study, across multiple regions where Muslims have settled in the U.S.
    per Jeff Sessions:

    USA: Muslim “refugees” – 91.4% on food stamps, 68.3% on Cash Welfare

    https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.c...-cash-welfare/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Remember, we aren't "Europeans"...We're predominantly the decendants of those who ran from or were run out of those countries...
    I know we are not Europeans but I see much of the same attitudes amongst our populace and many of the same policies being enacted by our governments...
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    Interesting pictures!

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    Most Americans can not wrap their minds around the Muslim mentality so can not understand a woman blowing herself and her kids up. We belive her crazy while Muslims believe her rational and a hero. Until we understand and are willing to accept that there is no reasoning with them or bribing them or expecting them to act rationally (to our standards) we can not fight against them. They are not Friday go to Mosque people. Everything they do, everything they think and feel goes through their religious filter.

    I wish I could express myself better. I wish I could make people understand but I know I just can't. Maybe most here do grasp it, but the average American won't until it is too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eXe View Post
    Perhaps this is why the left has a full court press going on to take our guns, at least the ones suited for self defense. Perhaps they do not want us to fight back.
    No "perhaps" about it! They *absolutely* don't want us to be able to fight back against the total destruction of our culture and domination by our "betters". Bringing the Muslims in is just one tool to accomplish that goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intothatgoodnight View Post
    How many of these large (read: expensive) Muslim families got their start and/or keep their large families economically afloat via the U.S. taxpayer supported welfare state?

    Would be an interesting study, across multiple regions where Muslims have settled in the U.S.

    I suspect that the Muslims would not have had as much success in settling in the U.S. (or the EU, for that matter) were it not for significant contributions given to them by the welfare programs.

    As usual, follow the money.


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    The enemy within created this reality. Globalists. Being exposed as Satanists in the process, as all things are being revealed. Summerthyme filled in a very important blank....... they must disarm us, if they are to enslave us. With this comes a situation. They have some ugly weapon systems to utilize, we have the numbers and the moral high gorund, along with the power who made moral relevant. Never surrender.

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    B]First-ever Muslim candidate for Governor comes unhinged over question about Sharia[/B]
    Abdul al-Sayed to GOP opponent: ‘You may not hate Muslims but Muslims definitely hate you!’

    Michigan’s first-ever Muslim candidate for governor, Dr. Abdul al-Sayed, took a shot at fellow gubernatorial candidate Patrick Colbeck on Thursday that some Republicans are saying was below the belt.

    Colbeck, speaking at a candidate’s forum in East Lansing, expressed his concerns about Sharia law and the extremist Muslim Brotherhood’s tactic of civilization jihad. Colbeck took exception with an article he says was planted by Sayed supporters in the left-of-center website Buzzfeed, which painted Colbeck as a fringe extremist using “unfounded conspiracy theories” against Sayed.

    Rather than address Colbeck’s concerns, Sayed called Colbeck a racist Islamophobe whom Muslims “definitely hate.”

    Sayed, 33, the former public-health director for the city of Detroit, was on stage Thursday at the Michigan Press Association with several other Democrat and Republican candidates for governor running in the Aug. 7 primary.

    Sayed refused to answer a question from the moderator about the Islamic legal system known as Sharia, other than to say that, if elected, he would uphold the constitutions of the U.S. and State of Michigan.

    I take [the Constitution] particularly seriously because it guarantees me two things. A, the right to pray as I choose to pray, and for me that means I put my face on the ground 34 times a day,” Sayed said. “Some people choose not to pray at all. Then in Article Six it also tells us that no religious test should be held over someone wishing to serve under this Constitution. It’s an incredible document.”

    Sayed leveled charges of racism and “white supremacy” at Republicans in general but saved his most severe critique for Colbeck, the one GOP candidate who has dared to talk about the issue of creeping Sharia in a state that has the country’s highest concentration of Muslims and has the nation’s first case of female genital mutilation working its way through the federal courts. Michigan also recently had a case involving a possible honor killing in which a 15-year-old Muslim boy in Farmington Hills allegedly pushed his mother to her death at a time when she was going through a divorce from his father.

    Colbeck, an aerospace engineer and two-term state senator, said his concerns are not about individual Muslims. Rather, he worries about the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has been declared a terrorist organization by Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, and whose influence in the U.S. was spelled out in the Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America, a document seized by the FBI in 2004 and presented as evidence in a terror-financing trial that sent five members of an Islamic charity called the Holy Land Foundation to prison in 2008 for funneling money to Hamas.

    This is one of those areas that got me ticked off in regard to the fairness of the media,” Colbeck told the audience Thursday. “They pitched this comment around my concern about the Muslim Brotherhood as a concern about Muslims in general. I love Muslims. It’s not an issue. The issue is about terrorist organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood.”

    After he berated Colbeck as a racist, and lectured the other Republicans on the panel for not condemning Colbeck as a racist and white supremacist, the normally cool-headed Sayed became visibly angry and showed he is not above expressing some hatred of his own.

    Watch the full 6-minute exchange between Colbeck and Sayed in the video below:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHvlymlzBds

    Dick Manasseri, spokesman for Secure Michigan, one of the groups that has concerns about the incremental advancement of Sharia in Michigan’s Muslim enclaves, including female genital mutilation, honor violence and polygamy, said he was surprised to see Sayed come unhinged in response to a calmly-communicated concern by Colbeck.

    Dr. Abdul definitely lost his cool,” Manasseri said. “I think what we saw was an outburst. Abdul was not cool. Patrick is purposely trying to not make this his only issue, but when it comes up he’s not afraid to address it and Dr. Abdul showed he just can’t handle it. All he has in his bag of tricks is the canned response that everyone who asks about Sharia is a racist and an Islamophobe.”

    Since Islam is not a race, and some of the most populous Muslim countries such as Syria and Bosnia are filled by Caucasians, the charge of racism is disingenuous at best, nonsensical at worst, Manasseri said.

    Philip Haney, a counter-terrorism expert and retired member of the Department of Homeland Security’s National Targeting Center, said Sayed responded predictably.

    The International Muslim Brotherhood’s stated goal, in its documents and even its motto, is the worldwide establishment of Sharia law, not necessarily by violence but by using “the hands of the unbeliever” in Western societies, Haney said. In essence, they use the political systems and the freedoms, of speech and religion, to infiltrate and weaken a Western society “from within,” as stated in the Explanatory Memorandum authored in 1991 by Brotherhood member Mohamed Akram.

    Sayed served as vice president of the Muslim Student Association while attending the University of Michigan, and his wife Sarah served as president of the chapter. The MSA has long been linked to the Muslim Brotherhood and is named as one of its front groups in the Explanatory Memorandum.

    Haney said Sayed responded like a trained Muslim Brotherhood operative when confronted with the issue of Sharia at Thursday’s candidates’ forum.

    He did what those guys tend to do, which is to change the narrative whenever the issue of Sharia comes up and make it about racism and so-called Islamophobia,” Haney said. “But he showed his true colors there at the end. He’s not as slick as he thinks he is.”

    Manasseri said one of the most revealing moments of the forum was how the other two leading GOP candidates – Attorney General Bill Schuette and Lt. Gov. Brian Calley – sat silently throughout the entire exchange about Sharia.

    He’s standing there on the stage attacking their party as white supremacists and racists. And the current attorney general and the current lieutenant governor have nothing to say about it,” Manasseri said. “The press is mostly silent. If the man’s head touches the ground 34 times a day, this is not a casual Muslim we’re talking about, this is a fundamentalist Muslim. I’m concerned now. The press should be asking him: How do you feel about FGM, what are your views on forced veiling of Muslim women and honor violence against women?”

    Patrick Colbeck has two decades of private sector experience as an aerospace engineer and was elected in 2010 to the Michigan State Senate. He was a senior design engineer with Boeing on the International Space Station. He also served as a systems engineer at the Department of Defense where he worked on advanced training simulation systems responsible for integrating these systems across the various branches of the Armed Forces.
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    It has long been the absolute intention of the Muslim Brotherhood and other jihadist terror groups to infiltrate and completely alter the United States via American schools, the armed forces, the entertainment industry, and the government – and, of course, through U.S. borders.

    So when the likes of Sheila Jackson Lee, Luis Correa, and Eleanor Holmes Norton are co-sponsoring H. Res 869, a bill to recognize American Muslims' history and contributions to America, it is time to highlight how these Democrats are doing the bidding of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). CAIR is partially funded by the Saudi Wahhabi establishment and has numerous ties to extremist Islamic organizations.

    H. Res. 869 states:

    [M]any African slaves brought to the Americas, including the American colonies, later known as the United States of America, were Muslim, and made innumerable contributions to the founding of our Nation[.]
    Notice how history is glossed over concerning the extent of Arab involvement in slavery.

    According to the Assyrian International News Agency:

    Over 28 million Africans have been enslaved in the Muslim world during the past 14 centuries. While much has been written concerning the Transatlantic slave trade, surprisingly little attention has been given to the Islamic slave trade across the Sahara, the Red Sea and the Indian Ocean.
    While the European involvement in the Transatlantic slave trade to the Americas lasted for just over three centuries, the Arab involvement in the slave trade has lasted fourteen centuries, and in some parts of the Muslim world is still continuing to this day. A comparison of the Muslim slave trade to the American slave trade reveals some interesting contrasts.

    H. Res. 869 continues:

    American Muslims have long served in the Nation's Armed Forces and fought in all major United States conflicts, from the Revolutionary War to present day, with more than 5,000 Muslims currently serving in the Armed Forces and many Muslims having made the ultimate sacrifice for the United States, including Army Corporal Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan (1987–2007), and Army Captain Humayun Saqib Muazzam Khan (1976–2004)[.]
    Americans do thank those who have given the full measure of devotion, but it is ingenuous to forget, as Michelle Malkin explains, that "Bronze Star and Purple Heart recipient Captain Humayun Khan died heroically. But his exceptional courage in Iraq ... does not erase the security threat posed by killer warriors of Allah infiltrating our troops."

    In fact, "two years before his rampage, U.S. Army major Nidal Hasan delivered a 50-slide PowerPoint presentation titled 'The Koranic World View as It Relates to Muslims in the U.S. Military.' Quoting chapter and verse, Hasan illuminated what the Koran inculcates in the minds of Muslims and the potential implications this may have for the U.S. military."

    In Slide 11, Hasan bemoaned [sic]: 'It's getting harder and harder for Muslims in the service to morally justify being in a military that seems constantly engaged against fellow Muslims.'

    Slide 48 warned: 'If Muslim groups can convince Muslims that they are fighting for God against injustices of the "infidels;" i.e.: enemies of Islam, then Muslims can become a potent adversary i.e.: suicide bombing, etc. We love death more then [sic] you love life!'

    Nidal Hasan wanted Muslim soldiers to be released as conscientious objectors to "decrease adverse events." But these "adverse events was [sic] Hasan's euphemism for bloody jihad attacks and betrayals by Muslim soldiers against their fellow U.S. soldiers e.g., Hasan Akbar, the 326th Engineer Battalion Muslim-American soldier who lobbed stolen hand grenades and shot his M-4 automatic rifle into three tents filled with sleeping commanding officers at the 101st Airborne Division's 1st Brigade operations center in Kuwait in 2003. Captain Christopher Seifert, 27, and Major Gregory Stone, 40, died during the fragging. Fourteen others suffered wounds from grenade shrapnel."

    Such "[w]illful blindness to a Muslim-American soldier's fundamental internal conflict of loyalties led to those murders and injuries."

    H. Res. 869 cites the "countless other American Muslims who served valiantly in the First and Second World Wars[.]"

    Ignored is the fact that Muslims were being brought in by the tens of thousands to fight for the Nazis in World War II. Thus, "[a]t the height of the war in 1941-1942, when German troops entered Muslim-populated territories in the Balkans, North Africa, Crimea, and the Caucasus, and approached the Middle East and Central Asia, Berlin began to see Islam as politically significant. Nazi Germany made significant attempts to promote an alliance with the 'Muslim world' against their alleged common enemies – the British Empire, the Soviet Union, America and Jews."

    In fact, "[a]s early as 1941, the Wehrmacht distributed the military handbook 'Islam' to train its soldiers to behave correctly towards Muslim populations." It is critical to remember that "the famous Mufti of Jerusalem ... shared the Nazis' Jew-hatred."

    In H. Res. 869, "Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison and Indiana Congressman Andre Carson" are mentioned in order to recognize their contributions to America.

    Let's review these contributions. Ellison's radical actions date way back.

    At a 1995 University of Minnesota rally to promote Louis Farrakhan's anticipated Million Man March, Ellison, who organized the rally, appeared onstage with Khalid Abdul Muhammad, who delivered a thundering, racist diatribe.

    In May 2011, Ellison was the keynote speaker at a CAIR-Los Angeles fundraiser. According to the Investigative Project on Terrorism, Ellison spoke at a minimum of twelve CAIR fundraising events between 2006-16.

    It is crucial to remember that CAIR is a front for terrorism.

    Combining anti-Semitism with leftist leanings, Ellison strongly supports the anti-capitalist Occupy Wall Street movement. In addition, he was a speaker "at the Democratic National Convention that was part of an alliance of anti-Israel organizations that promote the Boycott, Divestment, & Sanctions (BDS) campaign against Israel. Ellison himself supports BDS."

    Moreover, "Ellison was scheduled to be the keynote speaker for the annual Muslim American Society (MAS)/Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) convention in 2016 where many of the speakers had ties to 'highly radicalized Islamic elements.'" It is clear that Ellison sides with those who would do harm to the United States.

    Concerning Congressman Andre Carson, "at an August 22, 2011 Congressional Black Caucus event in Miami, Carson told a gathering of supporters that the Tea Party was infested with white racism."

    Like Ellison, Carson has an anti-Israel and pro-Islamist track record. In 2008, Carson attended a conference held by the Islamic Society of North America. In 2009, Carson spoke at the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC).

    In addition, "[o]n May 26, 2012, Carson was a guest speaker at the 37th annual convention of the Muslim American Society (MSA)/Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), in Hartford, Connecticut. Both the MAS and ICNA are closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. During his remarks, he stated that U.S. schools should be modeled after madrassas – Islamic schools infamous for their tendency to promote sexist, anti-Semitic teachings. Said Carson: 'America will never tap into educational innovation and ingenuity without looking at the model that we have in our madrassas, in our schools, where innovation is encouraged, where the foundation is the Quran. And that model that we are pushing in some of our schools meets the multiple needs of students. ... America must understand that she needs Muslims.'"

    Between January 2008 and June 2014, Carson received 55 separate political donations (totaling nearly $34,000 altogether) from Islamists affiliated with the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America, the Muslim American Society, and the Muslim Public Affairs Council..

    Naïveté and ignorance of jihadists' intentions can no longer be cited. It is disingenuous to believe that there is not an ulterior motive behind this latest action. It is, in fact, another in a long series of soft jihad. The ultimate goal is a global caliphate. Urge Congress not to support H. Res. 869.
    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._disguise.html
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    Jihadi Cult Member Files to Run for Congress

    Jihadi Cult Member Files to Run for Congress



    A member of Muslims of the Americas (MOA), an Islamist hate group that cultishly follows a jihadist cleric in Pakistan, is running for Congress in Alaska. He is the second member of MOA to announce a congressional run this year, following Tahirah Amatul-Wadud in Massachusetts.

    In 2016, Gregory “Shoaib” Jones was a delegate for Senator Bernie Sanders at the Democratic National Convention and ran for the Alaska state House in District 8. His deep involvement with MOA was exposed by the Clarion Project at the time, triggering a statewide controversy.

    Now, Jones is running for Congress and styling himself as a progressive interfaith leader. If Jones wins the Democratic primary for the at-large congressional district, he will face Republican Rep. Don Young in the general election.

    The group that Greg Jones belongs to is led by a terror-linked cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani. It claims to have 22 “Islamic villages” in America, including its “Islamberg” headquarters.

    The group has been continually under investigation because of its criminal and terrorist activity since the 1970s, including a raid on its guerilla training camp in Colorado in 1992.

    In October 2017, a letter from the Justice Department to the Clarion Project confirmed that an investigation into Jones’ group is ongoing. And newly-declassified FBI reports from 2009 to 2011 show that FBI offices still view MOA as an extremist threat.

    MOA’s extremist and anti-Semitic ideology is thoroughly documented, as is its history of paramilitary-type activity. Today, it is openly urging Muslims to support the Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist group in Kashmir and Pakistan.

    The Clarion Project has an entire comprehensive website about the group and its state-by-state activity here.

    Despite all of this documentation and Greg Jones’ admitted membership in MOA and trips to Pakistan, the media turned Anchorage Assemblywoman and radio host Amy Demboski into the state’s biggest villain when she merely mentioned the issue.

    Demboski even had Jones on her radio show to tell his side of the story. On her show, he confirmed that he is a member of MOA. When asked whether he’s gone to Pakistan, he initially avoided answering and then admitted he had gone there and has met Sheikh Gilani. Jones further confirmed that Gilani continues to lead the group to which he belongs.

    Jones said that Demboski had put him and his family in danger. He wrote an op-ed calling on her to “apologize or step down.” When Jones and his wife publicly confronted Demboski, they got a standing ovation in the assembly.

    The Alaskan Democrats published a press release on December 7, 2016, titled, “Democrats Stand With Greg Jones.” State Party Chair Casey Steinau said she was “saddened and outraged” by the “anti-Muslim rhetoric” of Demboski.

    The Alaska Democratic Party did not explain how MOA’s radical ideology is compatible with its progressive values.

    Demobski, for merely mentioning a candidate’s admitted membership in a hate group, faced a pile-on in the media. Heavily biased and often inaccurate reporting making Demboski look like a nonsensical bigot appeared in KTUU, Anchorage Press, Alaska Commons, KTVA, Alaska Public Media, Talking Points Memo, Midnight Sun and Anchorage Daily News (in fairness, at least Anchorage Daily News published an op-ed by Demboski defending herself).

    “I was the focus of a robust public campaign to vilify my character and intimidate me to back down; I received threats against my person and property, as well as harassing phone calls. But in the end, like many Alaskans, I don’t back down when truth is on my side,” Demboski told the Clarion Project.

    Demboski provided us with just a sampling of the harassment she experienced, though she emphasized she doesn’t consider herself to be a victim. The vile messages included numerous wishes for her to die, expressions of hate and graphic insults that cannot be repeated here. One pledged to burn American flags in front of her home.

    Now, the issue is resurfacing, but this time, Demboski is vindicated by the Clarion Project’s release of documents from a FBI counter-terrorism investigation into MOA in Alaska from 2009 to 2010, with additional FBI reports from 2011.

    The documents indicate that MOA figures in the state—perhaps including Greg Jones himself—were placed under surveillance.
    https://clarionproject.org/2nd-jihad...-for-congress/

















    Congressional Candidate Tied to Pakistani Terror Group



    On December 19, CAIR Massachusetts put up a Facebook post congratulating Tahirah Amatul-Wadud, a CAIR-MA board member, for her announcement that she is running for Congress. One would think, given that CAIR faces recurring condemnation for its links to extremism, that they would be more circumspect about broadcasting their connection to Ms. Amatul-Wadud — who is deeply enmeshed in one of the most dangerous extremist groups in the United States.

    As she notes on her professional website, Ms. Amatul-Wadud is the general counsel for a community calling itself Islamberg, near Hancock, NY. Islamberg was founded by Pakistani cleric Mubarak Ali Gilani. Gilani is the leader of the extremist group Jamaat al-Fuqra, which operates in the United States under the name “Muslims of America” (MOA) — and in fact, Ms. Amatul-Wadud is the lawyer not just for Islamberg, but for MOA itself.

    As noted by Ryan Mauro, national security analyst for the Clarion Project, MOA has been under Federal investigation since the 1970s (resulting in several arrests over the years) for connections with international terrorism, pervasive criminal and fraudulent activity, and the stockpiling of illegal weapons. Videos taken in Islamberg and other MOA “villages” across the country show members undergoing basic guerrilla training; the most promising recruits, FBI sources allege, are sent to Pakistan for more advanced training and religious indoctrination from Gilani personally.

    Of course, even criminals are entitled to legal representation (though wise voters would hesitate before electing a Mafia attorney as their representative in Congress). However, Ms. Amatul-Wadud’s relationship with Jamaat al-Fuqra is more than just professional.

    In 2015, she shared a Facebook post from MOA of a long and unhinged 2014 article by Sheikh Gilani himself. Based largely on the widely-debunked forgery Confessions of a British Spy, Gilani claims that the terror group ISIS (and indeed, Wahhabism itself) is a creation of British intelligence, that 9/11 was an inside job, that WTC-7 was destroyed by controlled demolition, and that America was manipulated into fighting Nazi Germany and Saddam Hussein for the benefit of the Jews. For Ms. Amatul-Wadud to endorse this sort of conspiracy-theorizing is extraordinary.

    Furthermore, internal MOA documents from the 1980s and 1990s, which were revealed by Mauro’s “Fuqra Files” project, indicated that at least two MOA members with the surname of Amatul-Wadud applied for membership in Sheikh Gilani’s secret “Soldiers of Allah” militant force. While Tahirah Amatul-Wadud can hardly be blamed for the extremism of older relatives, this connection does give credence to the claim (made by a former member of MOA) that her schooling was paid for by the Jamaat al-Fuqra, and that she was groomed for her present role.

    Ms. Amatul-Wadud manages to make the other CAIR-MA board member running for Congress, Nadeem Mazen, look positively cherubic (despite his own issues with extremism). And for CAIR-MA to have her on its board, despite her professional accomplishments, is troubling. Either CAIR-MA was not aware of how dangerous MOA is, or they remain willfully ignorant, or (worst of all) they do not mind.
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    After all these years, all our reading, learning, posting -- we actually influence no new people from here.

    The schools, the prisons, the muzzie pulpits, the government cohorts -- they influence people. They snaked it all in on the ignorant people of the country, and they trap or convert more every day. They import muzzies by the truck and plane loads.

    Nobody actually goes out and fights against them. The Crusades is long dead and over. There won't be a new one.

    I'm not sure even Trump understands. He doesn't say so if he does.

    For sure none of the other politicians do either. And now more and more of them are muzzies.


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    Islamic Takeover CONFIRMED – American School Surrenders to SHARIA LAW

    Islam does NOT mix with Western society at all, and, yet, liberals keep trying to force it on us and our children. It’s time to stand up and say, “Not in MY country!”

    The San Diego Unified School is now giving in to Sharia Law and Muslim culture as a whole. (via San Diego Unified Tribune). The idea that this could make its way into all of our schools is infuriating. There needs to be a conversation about the options available to resolve this serious problem.

    In an attempt to stop the “bullying of Muslim children,” the school has implemented some non-traditional methods. Not only are these methods inappropriate, but they are also hypocritical and downright dangerous.

    The changes start off subtly enough. They are going to start adding all of the Islamic holidays to the school calendar. The students are also expected to celebrate and respect these holidays.

    Next, students are expected to learn more about “key” Islamic figures in history. They are also going to change the Social Studies courses to show important events that happened in the history of Islam.

    “Safe spaces” will be set up all around campus for the Muslim students. The goal here is to fight so-called “Islamaphobia.” The truth is, this is going to cause more problems than it is going to solve.

    Letters are going to be sent out to staff and family of the students. The purpose of the letter is to let everyone know that this is going to happen. They are going to also provide additional information about the Islamic culture.

    Finally, they are going to punish children suspected of bullying Muslim students. However, these punishments are also extremely odd and Islam-centric. Detention is going to be a thing of the past. Now, they are going to have to work with Muslim students and learn more about the culture. Essentially, their punishment for suspected bullying is to be BRAINWASHED into accepting Sharia law.

    It is alarming and extraordinarily inappropriate that these steps are going to take place. It is astounding how hypocritical all of this is when compared to the actual religion of Islam. One of the major pillars of Islamic culture is that you should KILL the people who do not follow the religious teaching. It does not say you should politely teach them why it is a good and happy religion, it says KILL them!

    Couple this factor with the way everyone is making Muslims out to be victims of bullying. Muslims are just as likely, if not more likely, to bully other students for NOT believing in the same religion. Why are they being coddled like this? What kind of world do we live in where we all have to submit to the rule of Islam because, if we don’t, it might hurt someone’s feelings?

    Should we ban Sharia Law in our country? Let America know!
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    You never see any other religion put in the spotlight in this manner. This special treatment where Islam is concerned could have a HUGE impact on the rest of our culture. What if we get to the point where we have to obey Sharia law at our jobs? Or in our homes? We need to stop this kind of behavior in its tracks — NOW. This PC culture is out of control!

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    So, will those same children (including Muslims) in this school system be taught to respect and honor CHRISTIAN holidays and religious customs and beliefs as well?

    Sounds like lawsuit territory to me.
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    And if I shoot the bastards as I should, I'm the one who goes to prison. Bullsh**.
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    Perhaps this is why the left has a full court press going on to take our guns, at least the ones suited for self defense. Perhaps they do not want us to fight back.
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    No "perhaps" about it! They *absolutely* don't want us to be able to fight back against the total destruction of our culture and domination by our "betters". Bringing the Muslims in is just one tool to accomplish that goal.

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    Thought experiment time....

    The Muslim population in the US in 2016 was 3.45 million, or about 1% of the US population. So assuming 10% went full jihadi, or 345,000, how many boots on the ground would be required to "remediate" such a group's "activities"....For occupying Germany in 1946 it was one soldier per every 80 civilians. For Japan it was one for every 200. So for let's say 1 to 10 ratio, that would mean 35,000 troops actively involved for a civilian population. To deal with the active jihadis you want a much higher ratio, better than three to one.

    The problem is we're talking about a population spread out throughout the US. Even using all the lessons learned up to that point, such a dedicated force would be stretched. So now we're talking about adding security forces and QRFs to all states and major metro areas. You start getting to large numbers of personnel, and if you're going to those lengths you are talking about Garden Plot rules of engagement and utilization, they're going to be "cleaning up" all of the low hanging fruit.

    To do that you're talking about resurrecting the 1792 Militia Act to get those kinds of numbers, or in simpler parlance a military draft with no exemptions.

    Thoughts?...
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