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ALERT Ongoing Kilauea Hawaii Volcanic Event
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilbitsnana View Post
    My own personal opinion, it is the latter, but I have no proof either way.
    Lilbit, copyright is copyright. Especially when the originator labels their video as "Not For Broadcast". Storm chasers make those videos at their own risk and at their own expense. They have a right to protect and to enforce their copyright.

    Other YouTube sites ignore that at their own risk. Now their channel is shut down. That is their own fault.

    I would question why we are not seeing live video from The Crack Local News Teams or from federal, state, or local agencies? It is very cheap and easy to stream video but apparently that is too much of a bother for the MSM or government agencies entrusted with informing the public of hazards.
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    Ikaika Marzo just posted this on his Facebook account

    Fissure 17, 18 has slowed down significantly. The flow front is just about a mile from highway 137 and moving really slow. New fissures have opened up in Leilani. Fissure 6 got re activated and also I had reports that fissure 13 had some signs of re activating last night. Not too sure if it did but I will confirm. Everyone be aware that all these fissures that have been active can re activate at any time. Stay safe Puna and Stay Classy!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Baron View Post
    Lilbit, copyright is copyright. Especially when the originator labels their video as "Not For Broadcast". Storm chasers make those videos at there own risk and at their own expense. They have a right to protect and to enforce their copyright.

    Other YouTube sites ignore that at their own risk. Now their channel is shut down. That is their own fault.

    I would question why we are not seeing live video from The Crack Local News Teams or from federal, state, or local agencies? It is very cheap and easy to stream video but apparently that is too much of a bother for the MSM or government agencies entrusted with informing the public of hazards.
    In the beginning, that not for broadcast notice was not on the one guys stream when I first watched.

    Not saying none of them violated it, I know some did.

    And some of the ones that were shooting their own videos from their own places got served violation notices for various reasons. One showed some of the guys feed while he changed out batteries once and while he fixed a problem a couple of other times. Of course, many showed the same erupting fissures but from different angles and locations.

    At least two of the others had been showing multi screens from other streamers and quite often they included the one guys video.

    And to be honest, some of the ones that got served violations and no longer show live had much better video (view and dialogue) than the winner dude that is left.

    I know one or two had to leave their homes due to worsening conditions so maybe they didn't get a violation notice.

    At least one of the ones given a violation notice had permission, although that is in dispute. Too bad the winner dude didn't seem to realize while he was on the phone with the guy that got the violation that it was being broadcast when he okayed the temp showing of his feed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Be Well View Post
    One official dude on a video last night was PO'ed that reporters and others were (supposedly) not making it clear that the Island of Hawaii is not the entire state of HI. But he also made the claim that the area of the Big Island (ETA THAT IS BEING AFFECTED BY THE ERUPTION is only a tiny fraction of the entire island. And thus hurting tourism. What he neglected to say is that the air quality SUCKS for a large part of the island and is DANGEROUS.
    I saw that interview also.

    The "Managing Director" of Hawaii County was really trying to "manage" the information flow regarding this event.

    On the one hand, he is pimping for millions in federal aid but then tries to minimize the effect of the emergency so as not to affect tourism. Said people should not be cancelling visits to the island. Inferred that the media was creating a false impression of the impact of the volcanic activity.

    I personally question why Hawaii should expect -any- federal aid if only portions of a couple of small subdivisions are impacted? State local, and private agencies should have more than enough money and resources to deal with a few square miles of real estate, a few roads and a power plant of dubious benefit.

    Especially since the risks of volcanic activity in the area are well established.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilbitsnana View Post
    In the beginning, that not for broadcast notice was not on the one guys stream when I first watched.

    Not saying none of them violated it, I know some did.

    And some of the ones that were shooting their own videos from their own places got served violation notices for various reasons. One showed some of the guys feed while he changed out batteries once and while he fixed a problem a couple of other times. Of course, many showed the same erupting fissures but from different angles and locations.

    At least two of the others had been showing multi screens from other streamers and quite often they included the one guys video.

    And to be honest, some of the ones that got served violations and no longer show live had much better video (view and dialogue) than the winner dude that is left.

    I know one or two had to leave their homes due to worsening conditions so maybe they didn't get a violation notice.

    At least one of the ones given a violation notice had permission, although that is in dispute. Too bad the winner dude didn't seem to realize while he was on the phone with the guy that got the violation that it was being broadcast when he okayed the temp showing of his feed.
    It appears that it is way, way, way, too easy to shutdown a channel due to any allegation of copyright infringement.

    It also appears way too hard to file a timely appeal to anything YouTube decides.

    YouTube does whatever it wants apparently with little oversight or few repercussions.
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    Here is more info from the mainstream ABC station in Los Angeles, California. It is from yesterday the 15th.

    http://abc7.com/hawaii-bracing-for-m...tened/3479314/

    Hawaii bracing for major volcano eruption as alert level heightened

    By ABC7.com staff
    Tuesday, May 15, 2018 09:09PM
    Hawaii is bracing for another explosive eruption from the Kilauea volcano. The Hawaiian volcano observatory has upgraded the alert level over the Kilauea volcano to a red warning.

    That means major eruption is imminent, underway or suspected with hazardous activity both on the ground and in the air.

    The danger could be bigger than just lava.

    Scientists say the volcano might soon shoot out boulders and ash from its summit crater.

    This could happen as the volcano continues to spew out lava from the last blow-up.

    Scientists say the risk of a new, explosive eruption will go up in the next few weeks.

    The last time this happened was nearly a century ago.


    Also another fissure opened and began spitting lava Tuesday. This is the 20th since Kilauea began to erupt nearly two weeks ago.

    As spectacular as these eruptions are: the big one may be still to come. Lava from another fissure that opened over the weekend is making a path for the ocean, about two miles away.
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    East Rift Zone Eruption Update 6 A.M. - Air Quality, Fissure Update

    This is a Civil Defense Message for Wednesday, May 16 at 6:00 in the morning.

    The Hawaiian Volcano Observatory reports that several fissures are active producing spatter, however the flow from Fissure 17 has not advanced since yesterday. For up to date information go to http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/2018-lava-map​

    For the latest images and information from the Hawaii Volcano Observatory:

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hvo

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/volcanoes...hronology.html

    HVO has increased the Aviation Color Code to Red due to increased ash emission from Kilauea. Ash has been rising nearly continuously from the vent and drifting downwind to the southwest. Ashfall and vog have been reported along Highway 11 to Pahala. At any time, activity may increase the intensity of ash production.

    Due to the volcanic activity, the following are issued:

    Volcano School of Arts and Sciences will be closed today (5/16/18).

    Hawaii Fire Department reports that air quality is condition RED around fissures in the southeast area of Lanipuna Gardens and surrounding farm lots on Pohoiki Road. Condition RED means immediate danger to health so take action to limit further exposure. Severe conditions may lead to symptoms such as eye and nose irritation, and coughing. Sulfur Dioxide (SO2) gas is especially dangerous for the elderly, children/babies and people with respiratory problems.

    The Hawaii Department of Transportation (HDOT) announced that Highway 130 is open beyond Malama Street for local residents only. The Hawaii Police Department reports no large trailers or heavy equipment will be allowed over the metal plates.

    Highway 132 is closed at Pohoiki Road intersection and a checkpoint is located on Highway 130 by Pahoa High School. Only local traffic allowed beyond all roadblocks.

    As a precautionary measure, residents of lower Puna are advised to be on the alert in the event of possible gas emissions and volcanic eruption. Because there may be little to no advance notice to evacuate, you should be prepared to evacuate at short notice. Take this time to prepare.

    If you evacuate voluntarily, the Pahoa Community Center and Kea’au Community Center are open. Food will be provided and the shelters are pet-friendly. This is a precautionary message. We want everyone in the Lower Puna area to be ready, and to remain safe.

    County, State and Federal partners continue to monitor the situation. You will be informed of any conditions that affect your safety.

    The residents of Puna are going through a very difficult time. We ask for your help and understanding.

    Thank you for listening. Have a safe day. This is your Hawai‘i County Civil Defense.

    http://www.hawaiicounty.gov/active-alerts
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    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    Thanks, but the answer I was looking for isn't there. No problem, just an onlooker here.
    You're correct, the answer wasn't there. The implication was the flow 'into' the ocean was causing earthquakes. That implication is false. Submarine fissures from lava tubes have a steady history in Hawai'i. The only count being made is for land surface fissures, but that is far from the totality of them. Volcanoes and their fissures don't care if they are on land or under the water when they go.

    Then there is this which doesn't usually cause earthquakes themselves.
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    The Time They Bombed Mauna Loa And Other Lava-Stopping Schemes

    Diverting a lava flow is not as easy as some people — including then-Lt. Col. George Patton — once thought.

    Volcanic eruptions have threatened to destroy Big Island communities since long before the keeping of written records.

    Written and oral histories tell of Kilauea and Mauna Loa eruptions wiping out ancient and contemporary communities, erasing coastlines and adding hundreds of acres of land to the Big Island. A devastating 1790 blast powered by groundwater flashed into steam beneath the Halemaumau caldera, killed up to one third of Keoua’s warriors, perhaps several dozen or more, heading home to Puna after a battle with Kamehameha.

    The destructive power of volcanoes and their molten hot flow have, over the decades, prompted government officials to take sometimes dramatic steps to divert nature away from populated areas.

    Perhaps no reaction to avoid lava, though, tops the response to a Mauna Loa eruption that began in November 1935.

    This aerial shot of the 1935 Mauna Loa eruption was taken by the U.S. Naval Air Service. The eruption sparked efforts to bomb the volcano to stop the flow of lava.

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    For several weeks, a strong lava flow cascaded down the northeastern slopes of the world’s largest volcano, pooling in a natural depression. Thirty miles away, Thomas A. Jagger closely monitored the eruption’s progress from the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory; the flow was not unusual and appeared to be contained on the upper slopes.

    But then on Dec. 24, the flow unexpectedly changed direction — and beelined toward Hilo.

    Alarmed, Jagger dusted off a plan to divert Hawaii lava flows. Jagger wanted to blow craters in the main lava tube and change the lava’s direction. He was thinking mule trains and dynamite.

    But Guido Giacometti, another HVO scientist, had another idea.

    And that’s how the U.S. Army’s chief intelligence officer in Hawaii — Lt. Col George S. Patton – received the go-ahead on Christmas Day 1935 to bomb the hell out of the Mauna Loa eruption.

    The hard-charging Patton gave the attack his best shot.

    The future World War II war hero sent Army Air Force bombers from two squadrons based at Pearl Harbor’s Luke Field to the Big Island on Dec. 26, 1935. The next day, the 10 post-World War I era bombers dropped 20 bombs onto the exposed lava.

    Five 500-pound bombs landed directly in the flow, blasting big craters in the lava tube that quickly filled. One bomber pilot reported the blasts splashed lava upward high enough to burn holes in his plane’s fabric-covered wings. Fourteen other bombs missed, including one dud that was not found until 1974.

    Several days later, the Mauna Loa flow slowed, then stopped.

    Jagger would later write the bombs were effective in altering that lava flow, although contemporary scientists tend not to agree.
    HVO Slide Book 1, p. 2

    Scientists look into the bright glow of Mauna Loa’s erupting vent in 1942. The eruption, occurring during World War II, was not publicized for fear that Japanese war planes would use it to navigate to the islands at night.

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    Although the notion of bombing Kilauea would be a dud today, throughout modern history, schemes have been cooked up to divert or stop lava flows from inundating valuable properties – towns, fishing harbors, villages clinging to the sides of active volcanoes.

    When the terrain permits, constructing berms of rock, or dirt, or even large trees has been at least somewhat effective in the past. Flowing lava tends to follow a path of least resistance: racing down roads, blocked by rock walls. Roads and rock walls initially did control somewhat lava flows in Puna’s 1955 and 1960 eruptions. But they were soon overwhelmed by the unstoppable lava.

    Among the more successful: Iceland marshaled national resources in 1973 to save Heimaey harbor, one of the country’s most valuable fishing ports, from a lava flow threatening to fill the harbor. Even with giant pumps flown in from the U.S. and heavy equipment piling massive berms, the effort took five months of pouring sea water onto the front of the lava flow.

    The goal: cool and solidify a wall between the flowing lava and the harbor. The effort saved the harbor, though half the town was lost, and it succeeded only after flooding the advancing lava with 1.5 billion gallons of the Atlantic Ocean.

    A similar Hawaii Volcanoes National Park attempt to use water to quench a lava flow advancing on the park’s Waha’ula Visitors Center failed, in part because the building was located miles from a ready source of nearly unlimited water.

    A much earlier attempt to divert lava proved disastrous, as a 2006 “Volcano Watch” column notes. In 1669 on the flanks of Italy’s Mt. Etna, residents of Catania cut through a natural berm containing flowing lava that was headed directly toward their city.

    The breach was successful, at first. Then the flow headed for the town of Paterno, which greatly upset that town’s residents. They prevented the Catania residents from keeping the breach clear; it eventually clogged and the flow swept through Catania.

    The current Klauea eruption has already destroyed dozens of homes and is threatening the Puna Geothermal Venture power plant that supplies about 25 percent of the Big Island’s electric needs. But no government officials or anyone in the private sector is suggesting that an attempt should be made to divert the flow away from homes or businesses.

    Currently, U.S. Geological Survey scientists are hands-off on lava-flow intervention, a 180-degree shift from the pre-WWII days of the legendary volcanologist who founded the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory in 1912.
    18:20 Flow from vents near P. Haa

    Mauna Loa continued to erupt for decades, including this 1984 event. Today, scientists are not attempting to divert lava flows. The recent eruption of Kilauea has destroyed more than three dozen structures, mostly homes.

    USGS

    As the 1669 Etna diversion attempt revealed, “lava flow diversion is a complex legal, political, economic, technical, and cultural issue that must be decided by local and/or state government officials,” said Janet Babb, a geologist and public information officer with USGS based in Volcano.

    The USGS, she said, “is not a regulatory agency, so we do not tell people what to do. We monitor volcanoes and provide information on hazards associated with volcanic activity.”

    Perhaps the most powerful voices against lava flow intervention are those of Native Hawaiians who tend to believe a different force is also at work – one beyond human control.

    “It’s Pele’s land,” says Kuulei Kanahele, a Hawaiian language instructor and volcano researcher for the Edith Kanaka’ole Foundation. “We as Hawaiian’s don’t believe in redirecting lava flows. Pele will flow where she needs to flow, and it’s heartbreaking to see this, people losing their homes, now.

    “But these are modern times. Eruptions can happen where there are homes. It comes with the land.”

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    Many times I have looked at the location of Hawaii and thought how much it would suck to live there if a major event happened...

    Where do you go???
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    There was a 4.2 at the crater near the crater. Earthquake activity has been elevated for the last 3-4 hours

    https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthqua...t%22%3Anull%7D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post


    Many times I have looked at the location of Hawaii and thought how much it would suck to live there if a major event happened...

    Where do you go???
    Up in smoke most likely.
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    More quakes - New largest

    M 4.4 - 4km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii IV DYFI? V ShakeMap GREEN PAGER Time 2018-05-16 18:30:45 (UTC) Location 19.414°N 155.280°W Depth 0.5 km

    Same link as last post

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    Ryan Finlay's update on facebook

    Wednesday Morning 7:00am HST Update

    The air quality will be horrible today. Trades have stopped today but are set to return tomorrow (Thursday) through the weekend which is good news for everyone.

    Lava is approx 1.2 miles away from Highway 137 as the distal tip was seen from a helicopter overflight video this morning. This lava has been fed by fissure #17 which continues to fountain, though much less vigorously as the day before. The distal tip does not appear that it has advanced since yesterday at all.

    The flow front headed towards highway 132 has stalled. Could a re-opening be coming soon?

    Fissure 16 (I believe) was fountaining last night as well. Will know how far it spread after the overflight video is posted later.

    The trades have stopped which has caused ash to land in the Volcano area. It's also very voggy/hazy up there right now.

    Kilauea - Halemaʻumaʻu Overlook Vent
    This morning mostly steam has been coming out as of the latest image from USGS. There will likely be more rockfalls today that could produce more enormous ash plumes. When they happen today however, the fallout of ash will affect the Volcano Village area much more as the trade winds have ceased. Trade winds are set to return tomorrow.

    Earthquakes really picked up in Leilani estates a few days ago and yesterday major cracking began to occur on certain streets. Cracks of up to 2 feet across were observed on Nohea.

    I believe this was a sign of more magma pushing into the area and yesterday it was reported that a glow could be seen from one of the fissures at the bottom of Leilani. The earthquakes were also followed by an increase in activity in Lanipuna Gardens.

    Highway 130 remains open to residents at this time.

    I will update this post as more information becomes available.

    I want to encourage those of you that are under heavy stress loads to ask for help from those around you so you can rest. Even better go get in the ocean for a while. This is not a sprint and we all need to take care of our body and keep healthy. I truly hope this finds you all well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    More quakes - New largest

    M 4.4 - 4km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii IV DYFI? V ShakeMap GREEN PAGER Time 2018-05-16 18:30:45 (UTC) Location 19.414°N 155.280°W Depth 0.5 km

    Same link as last post
    I think they just upgraded the earlier 4.2 you mentioned.

    This is the list of quakes in Hawaii since 6 AM Central time.

    https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthqua...t%22%3Anull%7D

    3.2
    5km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 14:01:51 (UTC-05:00)
    -0.1 km

    1.8
    1km S of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 13:56:40 (UTC-05:00)
    1.0 km

    3.3
    4km SSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 13:45:27 (UTC-05:00)
    -0.4 km

    3.4
    4km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 13:35:47 (UTC-05:00)
    0.5 km

    3.3
    5km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 13:34:11 (UTC-05:00)
    0.3 km

    4.4
    4km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 13:30:45 (UTC-05:00)
    0.5 km


    2.5
    6km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 12:36:47 (UTC-05:00)
    1.0 km

    1.9
    6km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 12:25:03 (UTC-05:00)
    1.3 km

    2.0
    4km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 12:21:44 (UTC-05:00)
    0.8 km

    2.4
    4km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 12:11:16 (UTC-05:00)
    1.0 km

    1.8
    5km SSE of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 12:02:03 (UTC-05:00)
    -0.4 km

    1.7
    5km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 12:01:57 (UTC-05:00)
    1.1 km

    3.2
    4km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 11:55:25 (UTC-05:00)
    0.6 km

    3.2
    4km SSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 11:55:16 (UTC-05:00)
    0.2 km

    1.8
    0km SW of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 11:52:58 (UTC-05:00)
    2.4 km

    3.2
    1km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 11:27:49 (UTC-05:00)
    0.1 km

    1.8
    7km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 11:02:52 (UTC-05:00)
    0.8 km

    1.8
    3km ESE of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 10:47:47 (UTC-05:00)
    1.4 km

    1.8
    5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 10:47:12 (UTC-05:00)
    0.3 km

    2.0
    6km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 10:34:31 (UTC-05:00)
    1.1 km

    1.8
    16km SE of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 10:31:07 (UTC-05:00)
    2.7 km

    2.5
    6km ESE of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 10:30:28 (UTC-05:00)
    0.7 km

    3.1
    11km SSE of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 10:04:17 (UTC-05:00)
    4.2 km

    1.8
    4km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:47:06 (UTC-05:00)
    1.3 km

    2.4
    4km ENE of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:44:12 (UTC-05:00)
    1.6 km

    2.9
    7km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:43:58 (UTC-05:00)
    1.3 km

    2.1
    0km N of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:41:26 (UTC-05:00)
    3.8 km

    3.2
    5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:38:20 (UTC-05:00)
    0.2 km

    2.5
    6km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:17:35 (UTC-05:00)
    0.9 km

    1.7
    4km ESE of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:16:18 (UTC-05:00)
    0.6 km

    2.3
    4km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:09:30 (UTC-05:00)
    1.5 km

    1.8
    0km NNE of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:08:04 (UTC-05:00)
    2.4 km

    3.0
    5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 09:00:25 (UTC-05:00)
    0.5 km

    2.2
    7km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 08:31:44 (UTC-05:00)
    0.8 km

    1.9
    4km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 08:21:29 (UTC-05:00)
    1.2 km

    2.1
    5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 08:17:18 (UTC-05:00)
    1.2 km

    2.1
    3km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 08:02:05 (UTC-05:00)
    1.8 km

    2.6
    2km E of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 07:52:38 (UTC-05:00)
    1.4 km

    1.8
    9km SSW of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 07:49:51 (UTC-05:00)
    0.8 km

    2.5
    4km SW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 07:41:03 (UTC-05:00)
    1.1 km

    2.5
    2km S of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 07:40:07 (UTC-05:00)
    3.6 km

    2.4
    9km SSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 07:23:00 (UTC-05:00)
    -0.3 km

    2.1
    7km S of Leilani Estates, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 07:15:32 (UTC-05:00)
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    3.1
    5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 06:56:39 (UTC-05:00)
    0.5 km

    2.1
    6km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 06:34:29 (UTC-05:00)
    1.2 km

    3.0
    5km WSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 06:30:57 (UTC-05:00)
    -0.1 km

    2.7
    10km S of Ainaloa, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 06:30:44 (UTC-05:00)
    11.1 km

    3.0
    8km SSW of Volcano, Hawaii
    2018-05-16 06:13:19 (UTC-05:00)
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    2018-05-16 05:52:44 (UTC-05:00)
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    Hawaii Civil Defense has been fairly sluggish and Spartan in issuing timely advisories but they sure seem to be quick about quashing rumors of a major land slide and/or tsunamis.

    I wish they would spend as much energy on useful real time data and video as they seem to spending on perception management?
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    No Tsunami Threat For Wed, May 16 At 8:45 AM

    This is a Civil Defense message for Wednesday, May 16 at 8:45 a.m.

    The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center reports the earthquake that occurred at approximately 8:36 a.m. was NOT large enough to cause a tsunami for the Island of Hawaii. There is NO tsunami threat for the island of Hawaii.

    Preliminary data indicates that the earthquake measuring a magnitude of 4.2 was centered in the summit region of Kilauea.

    As in all earthquakes, be aware of the possibility of after shocks. If the earthquake was strongly felt in your area, precautionary checks should be made for any damages; especially to utility connections of gas, water and electricity.

    Again, the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center reports the earthquake that occurred at approximately 8:36 a.m. was NOT large enough to cause a tsunami for the island of Hawaii. NO tsunami threat.

    If any additional information becomes available, this station will be notified. Thank you for listening. This is your Hawaii County Civil Defense Agency.

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    LiveStormChasing feed is up again,

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    https://twitter.com/AllysonBlairTV/s...42286570004482

    #UPDATE @USGSVolcanoes "This morning dense ballistic blocks up to 2 ft. across were found in the parking lot a few hundred yards from Halemaumau. These reflect the most energetic explosions yet observed and could reflect the onset of steam-driven explosive activity." #Kilauea

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    Live Storms Media
    Started streaming 30 minutes ago
    Stream from Brandon Clement (one of our members).

    We'll attempt to be live all afternoon into overnight if batteries can survive. If they die we will have to charge them. If that occurs we will be offline for a couple hours until we get them charged.


    LIVE: Hawaii Fissure Explosions and Eruption of Kilauea fissures (Near Pahoa, HI)



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbvW9Ki1bDU
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    New webcam from inside the USGS building at the crater

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/observato...l?webcam=KWcam

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    Never seen a dump then jump in the tilt data from the crater like the one at the link

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vsc/captu...ilt_2weeks.png

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    Yep lots of deformation still. Lava still going down.

    Tilt and GPS Deformation Data
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    Thanks for that live video from near Pahoa, Red Baron. I assume this is fissure 17, it has so much lava around it? Or is it another? What terrifying noises.

    Amazing to me that my kids and I lived on the Big Island when the Puu Oo eruption first started; first there was a small eruption up near Halemaumau crater which we drove up to see; then Puu Oo formed. We drove down one full moon night to watch it from the road next to the ocean, fountaining laval 2000 feet high. From a safe distance but a sight we will never forget.
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    The NWS and Hawaii CD need to better coordinate their information to the public?
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    East Rift Zone Eruption-May 16, Update 2, 10:30am.

    This is a Civil Defense Message for Wednesday, May 16 at 10:30 a.m.

    The National Weather Service (NWS) has cancelled the Ashfall Advisory as of 8:33 a.m. Volcanic emissions from Halemaumau Crater have decreased since Tuesday evening. The NWS could reissue the advisory as conditions warrant.

    The Hawaiian Volcano Observatory reports that occasional bursts of ash are coming from Halemaumau Crater, causing cause ash to fall downwind across portions of Lower Puna to include Volcano Village and Kau District. Only trace dusting of ash is currently visible on property.

    - Avoid excessive exposure to ash which is an eye and respiratory irritant.

    - Those with breathing issues should take extra precaution to minimize exposure.

    - Motorists are advised to drive with caution.

    - All roads in this area are open at this time.

    Volcanic gas emissions remain elevated throughout the area downwind of the vents in lower Puna. An interruption in trade winds today means that Lower Puna, Volcano Village and surrounding areas, such as the Big Island North, South and Interior, may experience varying levels of vog and sulfur dioxide exposure. The Hawaii Fire Department reports that air quality is still condition RED around fissures in the southeast area of Lanipuna Gardens and surrounding farm lots on Pohoiki Road.

    - Condition RED means immediate danger to health so take action to limit further exposure.

    - Severe conditions may exist such as choking and inability to breathe.

    - Sulfur Dioxide (SO2) gas from fissures are especially dangerous for elderly, children/babies and people with respiratory problems.

    As a precautionary measure, residents of lower Puna are advised to be on the alert in the event of possible gas emissions and volcanic eruption. Because there may be little to no advance notice to evacuate, you should be prepared to evacuate at short notice. Take this time to prepare.

    If you evacuate voluntarily, the Pahoa Community Center and Kea’au Community Center are open. Food will be provided and the shelters are pet-friendly. This is a precautionary message. We want everyone in the Lower Puna area to be ready, and to remain safe.

    The Hawaii Interagency Vog Information Dashboard has comprehensive information and data related to vog and ash hazards and impact: https://vog.ivhhn.org
    County, State and Federal partners continue to monitor the situation. You will be informed of any conditions that affect your safety.

    Sign up for the latest Civil Defense Agency messages and alerts at www.hawaiicounty.gov/active-alerts

    The residents of Puna are going through a very difficult time. We ask for your help and understanding.

    Thank you for listening. Have a safe day. This is your Hawai‘i County Civil Defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    Never seen a dump then jump in the tilt data from the crater like the one at the link

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vsc/captu...ilt_2weeks.png

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vhp/tilt_strain.html

    They are using a liquid style strain/tilt meter. Not hard to imagine how an anomalous reading in an earthquake or other upset condition could cause that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Be Well View Post
    Thanks for that live video from near Pahoa, Red Baron. I assume this is fissure 17, it has so much lava around it? Or is it another? What terrifying noises.

    Amazing to me that my kids and I lived on the Big Island when the Puu Oo eruption first started; first there was a small eruption up near Halemaumau crater which we drove up to see; then Puu Oo formed. We drove down one full moon night to watch it from the road next to the ocean, fountaining laval 2000 feet high. From a safe distance but a sight we will never forget.
    Usually they are showing Fissure #17 with the lava field and the ocean in the background.

    In the past, they have moved the camera to show the other nearby fissures if activity in those locations warranted it.
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    In order to end up with 20 open fissures spewing magma/lava there must be a truly amazing volume of lave under the ground from the volcano to the sea floor offshore. It is likely this fissure spewing lava scenario may go on for quite some time, days and weeks for sure, and possibly the next several months or more. For all intents and purposes, the area where those housing developments are sited is now uninhabitable, possibly permanently.

    The government knew this was a lava eruption zone, and they gave them building permits anyway.

    Seriously, what will the Big island do if they have fissures spewing toxic gases into the air, and super hot lava flowing all over that area for the next few years? I haven't decided if the National Volcano Park will have to stay closed for the next few years either.
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    I'm thinking some folks are looking a gift horse in the mouth. Without the fissures, there is no pressure relief. With no pressure release, that pressure builds until it cannot be held anymore and goes kinetic in spectacular fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    In order to end up with 20 open fissures spewing magma/lava there must be a truly amazing volume of lave under the ground from the volcano to the sea floor offshore. It is likely this fissure spewing lava scenario may go on for quite some time, days and weeks for sure, and possibly the next several months or more. For all intents and purposes, the area where those housing developments are sited is now uninhabitable, possibly permanently.

    The government knew this was a lava eruption zone, and they gave them building permits anyway.

    Seriously, what will the Big island do if they have fissures spewing toxic gases into the air, and super hot lava flowing all over that area for the next few years? I haven't decided if the National Volcano Park will have to stay closed for the next few years either.
    90% of Puna has been covered with lava in the last 1000 years. If no one was allowed to live in the active volcanic area, no one would live in Puna. The geologists have said that this volcanic activity resembles the lava flows in 1955. They lasted a couple/three months and then stopped, and life went on. Hopefully that will happen this time too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayku View Post

    https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/vhp/tilt_strain.html

    They are using a liquid style strain/tilt meter. Not hard to imagine how an anomalous reading in an earthquake or other upset condition could cause that.
    Yup I get that. However it hasn’t reacted to any other earthquake. At least going back one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    Yup I get that. However it hasn’t reacted to any other earthquake. At least going back one year.
    Doesn't mean it can't happen. It could be any number of other things as well. You might call your friends and ask them.
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    I remember visiting in 1966. There was a whole section of the island that was just lava fields with no housing. There was a church where the lava had flowed all around it. Was this where the housing developments were built?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayku View Post
    Doesn't mean it can't happen. It could be any number of other things as well. You might call your friends and ask them.
    Yup definitely could have been a earthquake. Just hadn’t seen it before. That is all. Thought I would post for others to see

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    Quote Originally Posted by marsh View Post
    I remember visiting in 1966. There was a whole section of the island that was just lava fields with no housing. There was a church where the lava had flowed all around it. Was this where the housing developments were built?
    That was Kapoho, the town got covered in 1960 and the church steeple is standing still, nothing is built on that flow. Below is a good map of previous flows. If I find a larger map I'll post it.

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    HVO Kilauea RED/WARNING - Strong earthquakes in the Kilauea summit region related to ongoing deflation; damage reported: May 17, 2018 00:35 - KĪLAUEA INFORMATION STATEMENT Strong earthquakes within the summit of Kīlauea Volcano continue in response to ongoing deflation and lava column drop. As of the afternoon of May 16, the floor of Kīlauea caldera has dropped approximately 3 feet (90 cm). This movement is stressing faults around the caldera of Kilauea, causing them to move and resulting in strong earthquakes of up to magnitude 4.4 thus far. Employees at the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory, Hawai`i Volcanoes National Park and nearby residents are reporting frequent ground shaking and damage to roads ... #volcanoes
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    well this where some people were live streaming the ash clouds. Sounds like they won’t be able to pull over anymore to live stream

    #BREAKING #KilaueaVolcano: Cracks across Highway 11 on the Hilo side of Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park between Volcano Village & park entrance; traffic allowed through but no one is allowed to pull over or stop instagram.com/p/Bi2zGYGl5Yl/ @HawaiiNewsNow (Photo: Jeff Judd) #HINews

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    I wanted to add a copy of diagrams of the volcano for those who want reference of how the USGS believes this volcano works.

    The caldera/crater is at a higher elevation than the east rift zone. They believe the crater is draining into the east rift zone.

    The magma in the “tube” leading to the east rift zone that is erupting now is believed to be from 1955.

    Once that old magma is flushed out to the surface, a much hotter, thinner magma will start flowing from the fissures. They believe this is already starting to happen and this is why fissure 17 flow so much further and faster than previous fissures.
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    Attached is the current fissure map that includes total lava coverage
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    Ok this is what I know or I think I know tonight

    Fissure 17 (the largest fissure) is still spattering but has slowed considerably in the last 24 hours

    Fissure 16 has come alive and died off again a number of times in the last 24 hours.

    Lots of new cracking or cracks getting larger in the Leilani Estates area. Fissure 5 is showing signs of coming back alive.

    A number of new areas are steaming and if they produce any spattering they will become fissures

    The USGS now has crews on the ground 24/7 to monitor these developments in the east rift zone

    The USGS has evacuated the HVO headquarters for the first time. They have created a new remote site for all staff.

    The crater continues to deflate and is producing earthquakes near the crater. This is causing additional road damage.

    The ash fall events of yesterday are still mainly considered caused by crater rock wall collapses. A steam driven explosive event or events are still expected.

    The picture attached is from the HVO parking lot. It is completely ash covered and you can see a large ballistic rock landed in the parking lot.
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    Thanks for the updates folks.

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