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    I really had thought the US was going to do a fast and furious missile strike. Then I thought the Russians would try and shoot a few down with their S300/400 systems. (Probably to sell more)

    Now the US goes to the U.N. to vote on a new chemical weapons inspection process. I thought Russia was against this inspection, but they just want the U.N. to use the same process that has always been used. It now looks like the US is introducing this new process so they can say “see Russia vetoed the inspection”! The normal inspections team is already in route to Syria. If we attack now the US obviously doesn’t want a full inspection completed.

    This smells very bad.

    Syria might be guilty of chemical weapons but we wouldn’t know officially before we attack.

    I am really surprised Trump can’t see through this smoke and mirrors game. Why not wait?

    Now we are hearing of a large strike that might include ground invasion. Really??!??

    Russia has warned us to wait for the inspection. I personally think we would be smart to follow that advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGTech View Post
    From FB feed...

    "**ALERT!**
    It is being reliably reported that the United States, the United Kingdom, and France have placed their Middle East Military units on ALERT for what most believe will be a SUSTAINED US/UK/FRANCE direct attack against Syria commencing as early as TONIGHT!
    British Air Force units on Cyprus are openly being loaded bombs, missiles and ammunition.
    The Baltic Fleet has declared a COMBAT ALERT.
    Russian Strategic Bombers are in the air over the Mediterranean Sea, loaded with "AIR -TO- SHIP" cruise missiles and the Russian Air Force is conducting heavy combat Air Patrols throughout the region.
    This situation is like a huge pile of dynamite waiting for a spark to explode into direct war between Russia and the US/NATO and regional powers in the Middle East.
    "

    take for what it is worth..
    Whats the time difference between washington and damascus? Isn't it already "tonight" there?


    Edited to add - yes its 7 hours ahead of us, so its 9:30pm EST there already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith357 View Post
    Every time I see a reference to the port at Latakia I have a flashback to Alas Babylon! The kickoff to WW3 is an errant US missile taking out the soviet port.
    Me, too! It honestly makes my stomach do flip flops. I don't have a good feeling about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith357 View Post
    Whats the time difference between washington and damascus? Isn't it already "tonight" there?
    9:32 pm in Damascus right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith357 View Post
    Whats the time difference between washington and damascus? Isn't it already "tonight" there?


    Edited to add - yes its 7 hours ahead of us, so its 9:30pm EST there already.
    On your cell phone, go to Clock. You should find an option for World Clock. Click on the PLUS sign and begin typing Damascus. It will find the city. Choose to load that as a time option. EST there is 7 hours difference. Same as Jerusalem.

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    #BREAKING: NATO member #Germany moves its Navy frigate "Hessen" towards the mediterranean sea to join US Harry Truman aircraft carrier and at least 8 other US battleships in the area. #Syria
    “The quieter you become, the more you can hear.”
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    Командир Гиперкуба
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    "He added that the use of nuclear weapons is "unlikely" In the original russian quote he says "Unlikely as yet"
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetimer View Post
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    #BREAKING: NATO member #Germany moves its Navy frigate "Hessen" towards the mediterranean sea to join US Harry Truman aircraft carrier and at least 8 other US battleships in the area. #Syria
    gee the mediterranean has an awful lot of ships in it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by northern watch View Post
    SURA‏ @AlSuraEnglish · 39m39 minutes ago

    #BREAKING - #Russian Su-34 jets now over #Latakia sea with anti-ship cruise missiles. #Syrian air space has been bustling with activity since #US threats of strikes. #OPCW Investigators arrival in Syria soon is anticipated to prevent conflict.
    Quote Originally Posted by TorahTips View Post
    This may not be popular thinking but I'll throw it out for review. Be nice.

    I don't think for a minute that Syrian government troops gassed anybody. That doesn't even make any sense to me.

    I think the clowns in America have at least some paid soldiers of fortune there. That started way back in the Obama days. He had no intention of stopping them. Now, Trump inherits it and can't logically stop it without causing a massive problem.

    That's why he said that he was going to leave Syria. He wanted to draw out a response from the clowns. IMO, this "chemical attack" was their response. They want a world war -- they are part of the cabal affiliated with Obama and Hillary. If we leave Syria, there can't be a war. So, they had to speed up their plans with the "chemical attack."

    Did it really attack? If so, who did it? I doubt it was Russia. I doubt it was Iran. I doubt it was Syria. It was the clowns. They are trying to start the war.

    Will there be war? Here's what I'm looking at. If the UN allows the independent team in to survey the area, those in favor of a war must act. The independent team will either find the real attacker or will determine that there was no attack. If the UN doesn't allow the second requested vote, then there will be war.

    If there is a second UN vote and the team is allowed in, then the deep state loses. They will try again some other way.


    IF....IF....IF....

    We are on the verge.

    And with this much "firepower" in the region--

    and this level of angry dialogue, nerves, and tension....


    It will only take ONE nervous, trigger-happy ensign, on EITHER side.....


    just like in the book..........
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    4 The Latest: Russia warns US against Syria strike

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on U.S. policy on Syria (all times local):

    2:10 p.m.

    A senior Russian lawmaker says that a U.S. strike on Syria could trigger a direct military clash between Russia and the United States.

    Vladimir Shamanov, a retired general who heads the defense affairs committee in the lower house of parliament, said in televised remarks Tuesday that a U.S. strike in Syria could hurt Russian servicemen and trigger Russian retaliation.

    He said that Russia has “the necessary means for that and the Americans and their allies know that quite well.”

    Shamanov emphasized that a retaliatory Russian strike could target U.S. navy ships and aircraft. He added that the use of nuclear weapons is “unlikely.”

    ___

    1:20 p.m.

    The president’s new national security adviser, John Bolton, urged President Donald Trump to skip his trip to South America this week because of the ongoing crisis in Syria. The White House announced Tuesday that he would do so.

    This reflects a view in the White House that deeper Russian and Iranian involvement in Syria have complicated calculations about a response to any U.S. military attack. That’s according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss internal deliberations.

    Moscow has cautioned the U.S. not to launch a military attack.

    ___

    12:20 a.m.

    President Donald Trump says the U.S. has many military options as it decides how to respond to an apparent poison gas attack in central Syria that killed more than 40 people.

    In remarks Monday night as he met with military leaders at the White House, Trump suggested a military strike against Syria was imminent. He warned that Russia or any other nation found to share responsibility in the attack will “pay a price.”

    The U.S. military appeared to be in position to carry out any attack order. A Navy destroyer, the USS Donald Cook, was underway in the eastern Mediterranean. It’s armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, the weapon of choice in a U.S. attack one year ago on an airfield in Syria following an alleged sarin gas attack on civilians. https://apnews.com/d46a3927251f44f58...&utm_medium=AP

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    Damn, that's very insightful. Eliminate the spoofers so an air campaign can begin. Russia may just decide they're not having it, and conduct air operations on our people on the ground to keep their ground assets safe. We'd escalate in kind, likely with assets not relying on GPS for terminal effectiveness. The chance to go completely hot could really be looming now, more than I think I've seen ever in my life.
    iirc, it WAS Russia who WARNED, just day before yesterday, THAT THIS SITUATION IS AS BAD OR WORSE THAN THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS.


    RUSSIA said this.
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    iirc, it WAS Russia who WARNED, just day before yesterday, THAT THIS SITUATION IS AS BAD OR WORSE THAN THE CUBAN MISSILE CRISIS.


    RUSSIA said this.
    Okay.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    Okay.
    What that says to me is that they are NOT wanting this thing to go where it's going---


    and the Cuban missile crisis was all about going NUCLEAR.
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    ALERT According to reports, British forces are mobilizing at their bases in Cyprus and Rafale fighter jets could takeoff from St Dizier airbase in France for possible strikes against Syria
    “The quieter you become, the more you can hear.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    gee the mediterranean has an awful lot of ships in it..
    yep!


    intel doge
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    I'm not sure of the accuracy of this but this gives a solid representation of how everything is playing out right now in the Med.
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    #SYRIA: A U.S official has stated that regardless of what the OPCW mission finds it will not affect the United States military response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    What that says to me is that they are NOT wanting this thing to go where it's going---


    and the Cuban missile crisis was all about going NUCLEAR.
    It might also be a fig leaf. You don't know, neither do I. That being said, what they want, the US leadership wants, what you and I want, may not matter. I'm not being fatalistic, I just mean that desires may not be enough to stop the momentum we're seeing. I sure have hope, of course.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    gee the mediterranean has an awful lot of ships in it.

    LOTS of frogs, in a small pond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onetimer View Post
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    #SYRIA: A U.S official has stated that regardless of what the OPCW mission finds it will not affect the United States military response.
    oh.my.god.
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    AIRLIVE‏Verified account @airlivenet · 15m15 minutes ago

    ALERT According to reports, British forces are mobilizing at their bases in Cyprus and Rafale fighter jets could takeoff from St Dizier airbase in France for possible strikes against Syria

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    intel doge
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    #RUMINT: Israeli Defense Force reportedly on high alert.
    “The quieter you become, the more you can hear.”
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    Global: MilitaryInfo
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    #RUMINT: #Israeli forces stationed in Northern Israel have been reportedly placed on high alert - @haaretzcom
    “The quieter you become, the more you can hear.”
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    AIRLIVE‏Verified account @airlivenet · 5m5 minutes ago

    ALERT Notification from Eurocontrol for Eastern Mediterranean area due to possible launch of airstrikes within the next 72 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by onetimer View Post
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    #SYRIA: A U.S official has stated that regardless of what the OPCW mission finds it will not affect the United States military response.
    The deep state wants the war. The fronted the gas attack for that purpose. That purpose will not be stopped. I have a horrid fear that this is the end of Trump. I believe that he under estimated the power of the deep state. They are everywhere. They control every person he places in office in one way or another. It seems that this whole war or military action (to say the least) is ON with nothing to get in it's way.

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    Babak Taghvaeeþ @BabakTaghvaee · 12m12 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Today, #Russia MOD has asked #Iran to provide access to #IRIAF's 3rd Tactical Fighter Base in #Hamedan to deploy its heavy bombers (probably Tu-22 or Tu-95), Il-78 tankers & use it as refuelling point for fighter jets which are planned to be deployed to #Syria soon!

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    I predict (hope) Trump will foil the deep staters once again, and not attack Syria.

    He can start by replacing Nikki the Waffle House waitress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northern watch View Post
    Babak Taghvaeeþ @BabakTaghvaee · 12m12 minutes ago

    BREAKING: Today, #Russia MOD has asked #Iran to provide access to #IRIAF's 3rd Tactical Fighter Base in #Hamedan to deploy its heavy bombers (probably Tu-22 or Tu-95), Il-78 tankers & use it as refuelling point for fighter jets which are planned to be deployed to #Syria soon!
    If Iran grants this request (and they probably will) then causus belli is thus assured for them getting an ass-pounding when this all starts. Sides are definitely being taken, loyalties measured.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    I'm thinking a Friday the 13th time frame is what "they" are looking for. It will take at least one week for the Truman task force to get there.

    I find the German Naval deployment hysterical. I just saw an article saying that all six German Navy submarines are not capable of being deployed. The new ships they built are a joke. I'm not sure where this German ship came from either.

    The Russians are likely laughing their asses off as they watch the gutted NATO forces, like Britain and Germany deploy for "war."

    Trump has gone to the dark side with Bolton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith357 View Post
    Whats the time difference between washington and damascus? Isn't it already "tonight" there?


    Edited to add - yes its 7 hours ahead of us, so its 9:30pm EST there already.
    So people don't get confused....

    Damascus, Israel and Moscow are all....

    7 hrs ahead of Eastern time
    8 hrs ahead of Central time
    9 hrs ahead of Mountain time
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    I guess Trump will have to break out those 2 billion rounds of ammo that Obama saved. The populace may need it soon!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthog View Post
    I guess Trump will have to break out those 2 billion rounds of ammo that Obama saved. The populace may need it soon!!!
    I'm not sure what you mean by that.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    #BREAKING Russian envoy: US approach is madness.
    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
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    #BREAKING Russian envoy: US approach is madness.
    I absolutely agree. I'm watching this all unfold and madness describes it well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
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    #BREAKING Russian envoy: US approach is madness.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSearcher View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean by that.
    Who says they can't attack us with ground troops? Who are already here Illegally by the thousands!!!! I'm talking about illegal Ruskies, Chicoms, Mexican and Central American Marxist, you know what I'm talking about??

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    Trump has gone to the dark side with Bolton.


    I lay all this at the feet of The Militant Moustache. Yesterday was his first day on the job IIRC - he moves fast.
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    BRITAIN'S ROYAL NAVY IS A JOKE

    NATO forces are simply not capable of engaging Russia on any level. The only credible navy in Europe is the French one.



    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN10L1AD

    August 10, 2016 / 6:11 AM / 2 years ago
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    12 Min Read

    Britain used to boast the most powerful navy in the world. No more.

    That’s a serious problem for allies like the United States.

    Traditionally, Britain’s Royal Navy has been the U.S. Navy’s closest partner. The two have fought together against most every foe. So any weakening of the Royal Navy also erodes Washington’s naval power.

    Today, however, the Royal Navy is a shadow of its former self. Government budgeteers have repeatedly, and excessively, cut the numbers of its ships, planes and manpower. It can barely patrol the United Kingdom’s own waters, much less project British influence abroad.

    Though London officials now vow to reverse the decline, it might be too late. With morale plummeting, and its few remaining ships frequently malfunctioning at sea, the Royal Navy’s suffering might be terminal.

    The timing couldn’t be worse. The West is mobilizing to defeat Islamic State, deter an increasingly aggressive Russia and manage China's meteoric rise as a world power. The British fleet's collapse is an object lesson for cash-strapped governments struggling to balance competing budgetary needs in a seemingly ever more volatile world.

    Yes, navies are expensive. They require long-term planning, work and funding. In peacetime, the fleet’s benefit is often invisible, marked by the absence of overt conflict.

    Yet navies remain crucial to national defense. Patrolling international waters with sophisticated sensors and powerful, long-range weaponry, they can respond more quickly to crises and bring more firepower to bear than can air forces (which require nearby runways) and armies (which move slowly).

    Navies that die from neglect leave a void that rogue states, terrorists and criminals can quickly fill. It takes navies to keep an eye on vast ocean regions. Remove what was once the world’s leading fleet, and you create a virtual security vacuum.

    During World War Two, the British fleet was still dominant. On D-Day in 1944, it was able to send more than 900 British warships across the English Channel to escort the Allied troops who would liberate Europe from Nazi Germany.

    As recently as 1982, the Royal Navy could quickly muster no fewer than 115 ships — including two aircraft carriers carrying jet fighters, plus 23 destroyers and frigates — to retake the Falkland Islands from Argentina.


    Today, the British navy doesn’t even have jet fighters. It mothballed its last Harriers in 2010. It possesses just 89 ships. (By comparison, the U.S. Navy and Military Sealift Command, the Pentagon’s fleet of support ships, have roughly 400.)

    Britain’s fleet has declined amid steady defense budget cuts, from 4.1 percent of gross domestic product in 1988 to 2.6 percent in 2010. Reductions in 2010 sliced another 8 percent in real terms. As part of a defense review in 2015, London vowed to stop cutbacks on the fleet. But the damage has been done.

    On paper, the Royal Navy’s 89 ships include one helicopter carrier, six amphibious assault ships, six destroyers, 13 frigates, seven attack submarines and four ballistic-missile submarines. The rest are minesweepers, survey ships and other support vessels, many no larger than the U.S. Coast Guard’s small patrol ships.

    Only the six destroyers, 13 frigates and seven attack submarines can be considered true frontline vessels, with adequate sensors, weapons and protection to fight and survive in a battle with a sophisticated foe. The other ships require escort through dangerous waters.

    Roughly half the ships are in routine maintenance or training at any given time. Several others are committed to small standing patrols, which leaves just a handful of vessels to respond to emergencies.

    But that’s assuming there are enough sailors to operate the ships. The Royal Navy has shed people faster than ships. Britain had 39,000 sailors in 2000. It now has a little more than 29,000, at least 2,000 short of its authorized strength.

    Fleet planners tried to address the personnel shortage by sidelining two of its most powerful ships. This summer, for example, the Royal Navy placed the large Type 23 frigate HMS Lancaster in “extended readiness”: It was tied up pierside, its crew assigned to other vessels.

    Meanwhile, the new Type 45 destroyer HMS Dauntless suffered serious problems with generators and entered port for repairs that could last at least until 2019. As with Lancaster, the fleet dispersed Dauntless’ sailors to other vessels.

    With those vessels out of action, the Royal Navy’s real strength dropped from 26 fighting ships to an unprecedented modern low of 24.

    Last month, the new attack submarine HMS Ambush collided with a merchant vessel off Gibraltar. The sub suffered serious damage and limped back to Britain for repairs that could take months, if not longer.

    That accident reduced the Royal Navy’s undersea combat strength by nearly 15 percent. It was a stark reminder that Britain has almost no naval strength in reserve.

    As budget reductions cut deeper, the British fleet withdrew from much of the world. Before 2010, the Royal Navy played a leading role in efforts to curb piracy off the Somali coast. British frigates formed the core of various international task forces that patrolled the Indian Ocean and Red Sea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthog View Post
    Who says they can't attack us with ground troops? Who are already here Illegally by the thousands!!!!
    That explains the comment, thank you. And agreed.
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    Well the U.N. vote is official

    BREAKING: Russia vetoes UN bid to set up Syria chemical weapons inquiry - @AFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    Well the U.N. vote is official

    BREAKING: Russia vetoes UN bid to set up Syria chemical weapons inquiry - @AFP
    ...The sound of a dungeon door opening...
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