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    Tillerson fired with a tweet

    DJT fired SOS Rex Tillerson with a tweet

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    Not sure what I think of that just yet - especially a CIA director at State.

    The CIA has been the hand up the State Dept sock puppet's butt since The Agency was formed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilbitsnana View Post
    Hmm, looks like the thread I posted 14 weeks ago was right and those who pooed it as "disinfo" were off target.


    thread I posted on Nov 30th:
    report: White House Plans Tillerson Ouster From State Dept., to Be Replaced by Pompeo, Within Weeks
    http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...o-Within-Weeks
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    CIA clipped?

    Trump appoints Haspel, who cannot travel to or have contact with half the world without risking arrest charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    He was a placeholder til Trump got things going his way.
    Mnuchin is next...wait for it. Another deep state Goldman Sachs twit. Trump will do it if he feels strong enough at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiredude View Post
    Not being a poop here but has 'Q' been right about anything?
    well . . . there WAS that time he looked outside at noon - and he told us it was DAYLIGHT - so there's the possibility that he MAY have been right - ONCE -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    Mnuchin is next...wait for it. Another deep state Goldman Sachs twit. Trump will do it if he feels strong enough at this point.
    I want McMasters out next....yesterday.
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    Haspel is an "interesting" pick. Clapper used to like her, Trump applauded her interrogation techniques, NYT runs hit piece. And now Julian Assange/Snowden/KimDotCom are flipping out on twitter about this.

    If she’s the one responsible for all the intel for the sealed indictments, and resignations, we will have one bad ass swamp drainer as the head of the CIA!!! This is possibly very big!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredge View Post
    DJT fired SOS Rex Tillerson with a tweet
    Source? I find that difficult to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    CIA clipped?

    Trump appoints Haspel, who cannot travel to or have contact with half the world without risking arrest charges.

    Because they think that waterboarding is evil torture.

    People should not forget that Assange is an anarchist and thinks there should be no governments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    Haspel is an "interesting" pick. Clapper used to like her, Trump applauded her interrogation techniques, NYT runs hit piece. And now Julian Assange/Snowden/KimDotCom are flipping out on twitter about this.

    If she’s the one responsible for all the intel for the sealed indictments, and resignations, we will have one bad ass swamp drainer as the head of the CIA!!! This is possibly very big!!!
    Good Lord! You're still living the "Sealed Indictment" fantasy........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredge View Post
    DJT fired SOS Rex Tillerson with a tweet
    Copying from Peacewithin's comment on the Q thread in ALT:


    The MSM story was Tillerson learned of his firing by tweet this am.

    The aide spreading that lie has been fired.



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    Quote Originally Posted by smith357 View Post
    Good Lord! You're still living the "Sealed Indictment" fantasy........
    There are public documents. Not fantasy. Who and what they are or related to is obviously not known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredge View Post
    DJT fired SOS Rex Tillerson with a tweet
    Kinda like a “Dear John” on a post-it note?
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    Another a$$-hat heard from....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Profit of Doom View Post
    Kinda like a “Dear John” on a post-it note?
    NOT TRUE. See my comment #52 above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbin View Post
    Aren't the Progressives going to have a problem with the "first female director of the CIA?"

    I mean - wait - she's not Black or Transexual is she?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiredude View Post
    Not being a poop here but has 'Q' been right about anything?
    Above and beyond this absolutely valid question...can we keep the 'Q' woo confined to the ALT sig???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    Not sure what I think of that just yet - especially a CIA director at State.

    The CIA has been the hand up the State Dept sock puppet's butt since The Agency was formed.
    Yep.

    Were always one-and-the-same.


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    Tillerson knew everyone in the oil industry world-wide as CEO of Exxon-Mobil......

    Notice that Pres Trump went to the Middle East almost the first thing - he used Tillerson's contacts to meet and greet the Leaders of those countries.

    Now he isn't needed any more and his more liberal ideas about some countries don't blend with the Presidents......so off he goes into retirement in Texas.
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    Rex Tillerson Removed as Secretary of State…
    Posted on March 13, 2018 by sundance

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson did an excellent job representing the professional and deliberate diplomatic approach of the U.S. and President Trump administration. His personal view toward foreign service on behalf of the U.S. was exemplary, and deserves high praise.

    Having said that, as President Trump stated earlier today, there was also more than a tinge of disunity between the advocated views of Tillerson and the views of the Commander in Chief toward economic national security. At times the fractures between policy perspectives were visible. Over time those differences became more obvious.

    As Secretary of the DoS Rex Tillerson supported the Paris Climate Treaty; the President did not; Secretary Tillerson supported the Obama administration’s Iran deal; the President did not; Tillerson was more apologetic toward lax immigration policy; the President is not; and there were other visible departures visible surrounding the use of economic leverage to achieve national security advancements, specifically on the issue of China and North Korea policy.

    The primary perspective, drawing the greatest contrast, surrounded President Trump’s view and expressed policy of emphasizing strength; particularly economic strength – to gain national security objectives.

    After many years of projected weakness by the former administration one of the key tenets of the Trump presidency has been reestablishing national security by focusing on unapologetic U.S. economic power regardless of global opinion therein.

    Unapologetic economic power is where the views of President Trump and Secretary Tillerson parted. T-Rex projected more of a humble and altruistic approach; almost seeming embarrassed at times to participate in discussions of economic conflict and confrontation. Indeed it often seemed awkward for Mr. Tillerson as he carries a less confrontational and more servant-minded constitution.

    While he is not a pure ‘globalist’ per se’, Secretary Tillerson was less deliberate toward achieving territorial economic goals as a method to achieve geopolitical national security. On matters surrounding these issues, T-Rex was more Wall Street than Main Street; more traditionally republican than change-agent populist.

    Despite the media’s inability to see the severity of perspective, President Trump is not going to be swayed on matters of national economics. POTUS Trump will listen to alternate opinions based on current events, but his forward advancement toward U.S. economic security will not be slowed by high-minded analysis leading to paralysis. Within his outlook, always in the back of his mind, the clock is ticking… there’s an inherent sense of urgency.

    Forcing economic change to enhance the territorial economic security of middle-America requires the ability of the change-agent to ignore the feelings and sensibilities of outside nations who will be confronted in the process.

    Stopping the exfiltration of American wealth demands severity: “we either have a country or we don’t.” Within that dynamic the value of diplomacy is necessarily lessened in favor of more deliberate and unapologetic policy advancement. Inside that dynamic President Trump and Secretary Tillerson did not agree – and that is a major point of disunity.

    As Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has stated several times: “economic security is national security.” President Trump fundamentally believes that our national security requires independent U.S. economic security. Everything is downstream from the economics of the issue; regardless of the issue itself – foreign or domestic.

    Carrying a sense of urgency toward these national security issues, delicate sensibilities -and the opinion of the media who protect them- are necessarily dispatched like a feather in a hurricane. Again, “we have no choice”, as often heard from President Trump.

    Going into year #2 of the administration the current emphasis is a structural reset n the U.S. approach toward global trade.
    Inside this specific trade policy shift, a parallel geopolitical strategy is being played out from the Mid-East through Europe and into Asia around the cornerstone of economics and trade.

    Confronting China (Xi Jinping) economically was/is what brought North Korea (Kim Jong-Un) to the table of discussion to give up their nuclear ambitions; it was not diplomacy that created the breakthrough conditions for a national security win. What brought China/DPRK to this position was the very real possibility of looming economic defeat.

    Final point – When approaching specific goals and objectives President Trump works through a strategy based on phases. President Trump doesn’t retain people past their expended usefulness. Rex Tillerson did an outstanding job as Secretary of State introducing the Trump administration to nations’ of the world.

    The diplomatic introductions and niceties are now complete; it’s time to get down to business.



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    springstreet says:
    March 13, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    There may be another reason for Rex’s forced exit. AG Sessions just responded to Republican pressure for another Special Counsel by informing the Representatives that he had already brought in a “counsel” from outside the Government. And, this “counsel” would certainly have been investigating Obama’s past “Russia Collusion” corruption of the State Department. Could Obama’s left over swamp creatures have also contaminated Secretary Tillerson … so that Jeff Sessions is about to bring forward charges?


    DoggyDaddy says:
    March 13, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    I think President Trump views world/domestic issues as projects (in the business sense) rather than career political activities; consequently, he prioritizes his projects and selects people who possess the skills to deal with the projects they are best to handle. With regard to T-Rex, he was absolutely indispensable in forging a newer and stronger bond with the Saudis, especially with MBS. This has paid big dividends already in the region and has great long-term potential. Now, the project is North Korea and T-Rex just didn’t seem to have what Trump wants for that project. So, enter Pompeo. I think Trump’s “project” view of things helps to explain other moves in his cabinet and staff. (I think Gary Cohn is another example of this idea.) Clearly, President Trump operates with a completely different set of skills than the career politicians who have sat behind the Resolute Desk before him. I don’t think the media or the pundits realize how much Trump is using his leadership to apply business project management skills to the operation of the many branches of government.


    gingergal says:
    March 13, 2018 at 5:08 pm

    I thought last year he was holding back. I realize with what I’m seeing him do now, he really was holding back. Just wait until after the midterms!



    Kenji says:
    March 13, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    Anyone in the Trump cabinet who believes the Iran Deal has any redeeming value MUST be REMOVED … and if that person happens to be Sec. of State … he needs to be removed sooner than later … with no prior notice. And if that same person happens to “believe” in the Paris Agreement … then his personal belongings should be mailed to him, after he is escorted off the premises.


    Elizabeth Carter says:
    March 13, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    President Trump had to get his appointments approved by Congress. Once he had someone in a position, he can replace them with another. I doubt that he could have gotten Pompeo approved for Secretary of State because Pompeo is a Christian. I think he got Pompeo approved for CIA because they figured the CIA could control him in that position. You have to work within the system until you can take control of the system. President Trump is very good at long term strategy.


    madashellgp says:
    March 13, 2018 at 5:27 pm

    I watched his goodbye press conference. He emphasised co-operation between countries. What Trump is focussed on is reestablishing reciprocal trade deals where currently they are one-sided. He didn’t mention this – I don’t think he supports this approach which is fundamental to achieving their geopolitical, diplomatic and economic goals. On the strength of that press conference alone, Trump was right. Again



    Kerry_On says:
    March 13, 2018 at 5:37 pm

    Tillerson, like Cohn, was the man for the job AT THE TIME. That time has now past. Note to incoming staff: Both T-Rex and Cohn had the temerity to think they were smarter than the boss and let that opinion be known publicly. It’s a teachable moment.


    alliwantissometruth says:
    March 13, 2018 at 5:58 pm

    [...] President Trump isn’t allowing friendships or the opinions of the media miscreants sway his management style. He wants results & he wants them now. Like a baseball manager, he walks to the plate, says good job but it’s not really working anymore, & puts in another player he believes will get the job done

    The USA is the biggest business out there, & it needs to be run as just that, a business with a bottom line & a business with goals in mind. People better get used to this Presidents business acumen, & understand this is how a business is run

    The days of the USA being run as a flop house for the world bankrolled by American tax slaves are over. President Trump doesn’t have time to bother with hurt feelings or good old boy networks

    Let the man run this business, because the only shareholders that he’s concerned with are the American people



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    Good!

    State and CIA are kinda joined at the hip.

    Anyhow State under Tillerson wasn't too keen on clearing up the backlog of FIO requests. The emails, private server, and everything else protected under the O admin, will now see the light of day. Think email and Clinton Foundation ongoing probes.

    Pompeo has no love of Hillary and has been on record as calling her out on her lies to congress. "Knowingly False"

    Check out the video and the links re Pompeo.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DpBnmQSoL8
    BREAKING: POMPEO RELEASING CLINTON EMAIL EVIDENCE TO INDICT FOR TRANSFERRING TOP SECRET INTEL
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    Published on Mar 13, 2018
    Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA, will become our new Secretary of State. He will do a fantastic job! Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service! Gina Haspel will become the new Director of the CIA, and the first woman so chosen. Congratulations to all!


    https://www.youtube.com/redirect?eve...AxNTIwOTc1Njg1...

    Representative Mike Pompeo Questions Hillary Clinton
    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c455623...

    Pompeo calls to 'unpack the untruth' Clinton told Americans
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIivWISwrCw

    New FBI release on Clinton email probe refers to 'Shadow Government'
    https://www.youtube.com/redirect?eve...AxNTIwOTc1Njg1...
    Diplomats fear Tillerson transparency push is linked to Clinton emails
    https://www.youtube.com/redirect?eve...AxNTIwOTc1Njg1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurane View Post
    Tillerson knew everyone in the oil industry world-wide as CEO of Exxon-Mobil......

    Notice that Pres Trump went to the Middle East almost the first thing - he used Tillerson's contacts to meet and greet the Leaders of those countries.

    Now he isn't needed any more and his more liberal ideas about some countries don't blend with the Presidents......so off he goes into retirement in Texas.
    Where he and Jay Garner can trade Single Malts and Small Batch whiskeys and shake their heads in unison at being out of the mess.
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    March 13, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    I think President Trump views world/domestic issues as projects (in the business sense) rather than career political activities; consequently, he prioritizes his projects and selects people who possess the skills to deal with the projects they are best to handle. With regard to T-Rex, he was absolutely indispensable in forging a newer and stronger bond with the Saudis, especially with MBS. This has paid big dividends already in the region and has great long-term potential. Now, the project is North Korea and T-Rex just didn’t seem to have what Trump wants for that project. So, enter Pompeo. I think Trump’s “project” view of things helps to explain other moves in his cabinet and staff. (I think Gary Cohn is another example of this idea.) Clearly, President Trump operates with a completely different set of skills than the career politicians who have sat behind the Resolute Desk before him. I don’t think the media or the pundits realize how much Trump is using his leadership to apply business project management skills to the operation of the many branches of government.



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    Maybe Trump is shifting things around because there might be some compromising (hacking) of his people and he wants to keep North Korea in the dark.

    Now, no one knows what's coming.
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    On the other hand...

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    What Secretary of State Tillerson’s Firing Means
    March 13, 2018

    What Secretary of State Tillerson’s Firing Means

    Paul Craig Roberts

    Senator Chuck Schumer (D, NY) says Tillerson’s firing indicates that the Trump administration is disintegrating. I understand why Senator Schumer sees it that way, expecially following all the other dismissals and resignations.

    I see it differently. The firing of Secretary of State Tillerson, the movement of CIA Director Pompeo to Secretary of State, and the promotion of Gina Haspel, who oversaw the secret CIA torture prisons in Thailand (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/u...-thailand.html), indicate that the military/security complex has closed its grip on the Trump regime. There will be no more talk of normalizing relations with Russia.

    The combination of the Israel Lobby, the neoconservatives, and the military/security complex have proven to be too powerful for peace to be established between the two nuclear powers. If you look at Trump’s administration, the above three forces are those in charge.

    Israel remains determined to use the US military to destabilize Syria and Iran in order to isolate Hezbollah and cut off the milita’s support and supplies. The neoconservatives both support Israel’s interest and their own desire for Washington’s hegemony over the world. The military/security complex intends to hold on to the “Russia threat” as a justification of its budget and power.

    The presstitutes are in complete harmony with the scheme. Although Russiagate has been proven to be false charges orchestrated by the DNC, FBI, and CIA, the presstitutes continue to repeat the charges as if evidence exists that proves the charges to be true. The “stolen election” is fiction turned into fact. And now we have a new charge, that Putin ordered a former British spy in England to be eliminated while sitting on a park bench with the use of a highly unlikely form of military poison. The charge is preposterous, but that is not preventing the fiction from becoming fact.

    Having served in Washington for a quarter century and having known members of the British government, I do not believe that any of them believe the Russiagate and Skripal poisoning stories. What is happening is that an agenda has taken precedence over truth.

    This is an extremely dangerous agenda. Russia’s new weapons easily give Russia military superiority over the US. As China and Iran see the situation similarly to the Russians, the US is greatly out-classed. Yet, Washington and its vassals persist in making violent and false charges and threats against Russia, Iran, and on occasion China. Russia, Iran, and China know that these charges are false. Confronting an endless string of false and hostile charges, they prepare for war.

    The world is being driven to war, which would be nuclear, by a tiny minority: Israeli Zionists, neoconservatives, and the US military/security complex. We are witnessing the most reckless and irresponsible behavior in world history. Where are the voices against it?
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    do you now. Mind your bias, it's showing....

    I didn't know Pompeo from a hill of beans. Now I know that he has made statements in favor of comprehensive compilation and indexing of surveillance information on American citizens and treatment of Julian Assange as an enemy. I have heard of claims that the CIA ran and armed ISIS as well as Middle East drug operations. I am concerned about claims that he is a war hawk and pushing the neo-con agenda. I believe that US aggression to secure it's former economic hegemony in the world is misplaced. Russia now out-weapons us and China is already well on its way to dominating the east, Africa and South America in trade dominance. Their CIPS system is already in place and their gold backed yuan oil futures contract goes live on the 26th. I am concerned Trump wants to go in this direction as it is a losing strategy. It reminds me of Gerald Celente's phrase to the effect that when the economy fails, they take us to war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    I know you and others WISH his Admin was disintegrating, but it's not.
    Tillerson and McMaster are total POS
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    Seem to remember reading something about this, this weekend. Seemed like a number of interesting moves being made.
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    the military/security complex has closed its grip on the Trump regime
    Kind of the other way around I believe......Pres Trump is encouraging the strength of the military/security complex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurane View Post
    Kind of the other way around I believe......Pres Trump is encouraging the strength of the military/security complex.
    Notable Quotable

    “I do think the agency will be sorry to see Director Pompeo go. But he’ll be just across the river so hopefully he’ll join up the agency and State to work hand in glove… I sincerely hope that Gina continues along that track and gets the agency more aggressive, less risk averse and working harder on true espionage and covert action particularly when it comes to the rising Russia and China and the continued morphing of the counterterrorism threat.” -
    Mary Beth Long, former CIA officer and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs

    NOT GOOD as I see it - - - it means more arab spring type CLUSTER F^CKS for the benefit of the CORPORATE ROBBER BARONS and GREATER LOSS of FREEDOM FROM UNREASONABLE SEARCH and SEIZURE under the 4'th - but of course YMMV
    “So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” REV 3:16

    Raging Deplorable - we do NOT forget; we do NOT forgive; we are LEGION

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    The world is being driven to war, which would be nuclear, by a tiny minority: Israeli Zionists, neoconservatives, and the US military/security complex. We are witnessing the most reckless and irresponsible behavior in world history. Where are the voices against it?

    The voices against it do not have The Mighty Wurlitzer or the Bully Pulpit at their disposal, and can thus be ignored.
    The wonder of our time isn’t how angry we are at politics and politicians; it’s how little we’ve done about it. - Fran Porretto
    -http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-wholly-rational-hatred.html

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    I love the shell game Trump plays with his rivals. I find it hilarious time and time again seeing the perplexity on their confused, scowling faces. He may not be able to drain the swamp or forestall the disintegration of our nation, but I definitely appreciate the brief respite he is providing to us.

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    I find it reprehensible that Trump fired Tillerson using a tweet....that was totally unprofessional for any employer, but especially someone in his position. It's not that I'm sorry that Tillerson is out, but that was a very unprofessional manner of being fired!

    I was listening to a broadcaster, last nite, who agreed.....he said the media is not telling the truth if they say Tillerson was fired in any other way...it WAS a Tweet. And also, that is not making Trump look good to other countries.

    Tillerson, in his former position with Exxon, was largely influential in Trump's presidency. It is a doggone shame he had to be treated so poorly, when he was let go.

    And, how about the other man (I don't know his name, but heard he was very close to Trump, for several years,) and he was sent away without even his jacket or brief case? How does this make Trump look?????

    I also do NOT like someone from the CIA having such a high position in the administration. I have read (and saved) a long article exposing the CIA for being such an underhanded organization. I am also totally against torture, and many people say that a prisoner will say anything to stop the torture. Torture does not guarantee the one doing it will get honest results.

    I think anyone who tortures another human being is sick! And will get his just rewards, some day.

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    I find it reprehensible that Trump fired Tillerson using a tweet....that was totally unprofessional for any employer, but especially someone in his position.


    I absolutely agree.


    ETA: The longer Trump is in office, the less I like him. But even if I hated him, I'd still support the work he's doing on our behalf. But I'm sure there are many millions like me who are still Trump supporters, but who are becoming more and more disgusted with his actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I find it reprehensible that Trump fired Tillerson using a tweet....that was totally unprofessional for any employer, but especially someone in his position.


    I absolutely agree.


    ETA: The longer Trump is in office, the less I like him. But even if I hated him, I'd still support the work he's doing on our behalf. But I'm sure there are many millions like me who are still Trump supporters, but who are becoming more and more disgusted with his actions.
    We just have to remember to distinguish between unconstitutional ACTIONS and his WORDS. Once his words become unconstitutional legislation, THEN we have something to bitch about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    I find it reprehensible that Trump fired Tillerson using a tweet....that was totally unprofessional for any employer, but especially someone in his position.


    I absolutely agree.


    ETA: The longer Trump is in office, the less I like him. But even if I hated him, I'd still support the work he's doing on our behalf. But I'm sure there are many millions like me who are still Trump supporters, but who are becoming more and more disgusted with his actions.
    Wilkerson was asked to resign Friday, and that was when he was really fired. He agreed, but asked to have it official once he got back from his overseas trip. The president honored that request. He did not fire him via a tweet, though he did tell everyone about it with one. Tillerson was not surprised, even if he and his aide tried to pretend that it came out if the blue.
    Your levity is good, it relieves tension and the fear of death.

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    Hard to know where you people are coming from,Trump also. This country is not about torture, of any kind,that is the deep state. It does not get any deeper then the CIA. All of its people are enemy's of the state. There is not a single one that is not guilty of trying to over throw this constatuial government just like they have all over the world. Any body who supports any part of any of the IAs are just as guilty,Trump down
    "When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law." ~ Frederic Bastiilt

    "Duty is ours; results are God's."

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    I just heard a clip yesterday from somewhere where Trump said he was building the greatest military ever. I know he asked for a great deal of money to do it. I assume the military industrial complex is the beneficiary of this. I don't know, but I suspect, the hawkish neocons will be leveraging to apply this to their donor's benefit in the middle east.

    As an aside, I was very concerned when I read that more than 20 former CIA employees are running for office as Democrats. What is THAT all about?. I am with JFK - disband the CIA and scatter its duties.
    "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

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