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    Diplomatic Corps Gobsmacked - Kim Jong-un accepting denuclearization

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    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ps-gobsmacked/




    President Trump’s Stunningly Effective North Korea Policy Leaves Professional Diplomatic Corps Gobsmacked…
    Posted on March 8, 2018 by sundance

    The statement tonight by South Korean National Security Adviser Chung Eui-yong is so jaw-dropping in significance it has left the professional diplomatic apparatus stunned.

    A year of targeted and strategic geopolitical policy execution by President Trump, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley has resulted in North Korean leader Kim Jong-un accepting denuclearization and requesting a meeting with President Trump to achieve terms therein.

    Yeah, HO-LEE-CATS is an understatement. The possibility of a willingly denuclearized Korean peninsular is such an astounding policy victory; it is difficult to conceptualize. Here’s the statement from South Korea’s Chung Eui-yong:

    “Good evening, today I had the privilege of briefing President Trump on my recent visit to Pyongyang, North Korea. I’d like to thank President Trump, the vice-president and his wonderful national security team, including my close friend General McMaster.”

    “I thanked President Trump that his leadership, and his maximum pressure policy together with international solidarity, brought us to this juncture. I expressed President Moon Jae-in’s personal gratitude for President Trump’s leadership.”

    “I told President Trump that in our meeting North Korean leader Kim Jong-un said he is committed to denuclearization. Kim pledged that North Korea will refrain from any further nuclear or missile tests; he understands that the routine joint military exercises between the Republic of Korea and the United States must continue. And he expressed his eagerness to meet President Trump as soon as possible.”

    “President Trump appreciated the briefing and said he would meet Kim Jong-un by May to achieve permanent denuclearization.”

    “The Republic of Korea along with the United States, Japan and our many partners around the world, remain fully and resolutely committed to the complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsular.”

    “Along with President Trump we are optimistic about continuing a diplomatic process to test the possibility of a peaceful resolution. The Republic of Korea, The United States and our partners stand together in insisting that we not repeat the mistakes of the past; and that the pressure will continue until North Korea matches it’s words with concrete actions. Thank You.” (link)

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    ...whoa.

    That's pretty much all I got. Just, whoa. Trump managed to do in just over a year what like 20 years' of presidents before him couldn't.

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    We shall see...

    I wouldn't trust that fat little psycho half as far as I could throw him.

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    it all boils down to what Kim realy wants:

    a. regime survival with all the goodies intact for him and his family

    b. control of the entire peninsula

    c. be a new communist Napoleon and conquer all Asia

    d. bring down the entire world

    but i will only believe this when i see the first truck pull away,loaded with one bomb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B. View Post
    We shall see...

    I wouldn't trust that fat little psycho half as far as I could throw him.

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    It's either the end of his regime or it's "Lucy and the football" again and then the end of "business as usual" in the region...

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    It's a hide-n-watch situation for me.


    I hope it rips the hair off of zero's a$$ like a Brazilian wax job.
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    It strikes me as a Victory. Either it really happens, and history, at least, will credit the administration.
    Or, NK is blowing smoke up our nether regions- but still, we did everything humanly possible to give peace a chance: also a win, I'd think.

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    Brings to mind the recent insistent scuttlebutt regarding NORK as being a CIA-controlled entity/asset - assuming there is truth to this, could it be construed that Trump and team have been successful in breaking the CIA's hold on NORK?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacknarwhal View Post
    ...whoa.

    That's pretty much all I got. Just, whoa. Trump managed to do in just over a year what like 20 years' of presidents before him couldn't.
    The reason being is our economy had to flourish because of war. That is the only way this country survived. Jobs are back North Korea is starving and needs the aid to help it start to grow after years and years of being locked out. I am sure China has had a hand in on this as well. It is an awesome thing if it true and will last.

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    I doubt this.

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    I'm afraid I'm a bit skeptical of Un's sincerity.
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    It was no accident that this is happening shortly after in became clear to the world that Trump was going ahead with the tariffs.


    And we still have RINOs fighting against the tariffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coalcracker View Post
    "Peace for our time."
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    The cynic in me feels the same. The president needs to channel Reagan now:

    "Trust But Verify"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B. View Post
    We shall see...

    I wouldn't trust that fat little psycho half as far as I could throw him.

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    And hoping TRUMP has the smarts NOT TO, as well.................
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    All Little Fat Boy did was agree to meet Trump. The Marxists have a looooong history of stretching out diplomatic meetings. IF you remember the debate about the shape of the table in the first rounds of peace talks with North Vietnam, you get the idea.

    Little Fat Boy is playing for time to perfect his ICBM missiles. He is playing for time to build more of them. He is not going to give up his nukes. He will never give up his nukes. Since that is the case, exactly what will Trump negotiate? And yes, it is entirely possible Kim will try and kill Trump, because this is what he does, and this is what he is.

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    This news is too strange to even consider. To see if Lil Kim is truly wanting to talk, he should allow IAEA inspectors into every nuke facility in DPRK first. That way we'll see if Lil Kim is actually serious. If he lets the IAEA in, then we would know if he really wants to proceed with talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    It was no accident that this is happening shortly after in became clear to the world that Trump was going ahead with the tariffs.


    And we still have RINOs fighting against the tariffs.
    That's twice I've agreed with you tonight.

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    Regardless of the outcome, Trump deserves credit for bringing the little fat one to the table for one on one talks.
    That's never been done before.

    The liberal press IS gobsmacked and bewildered that all their predictions have been proved completely wrong.

    I think the Chinese may have put some pressure on the NORKS once they realized the steel and aluminum tariffs were going to go into effect.
    Tillerson should just retire. He's ineffective and actually spoke out against Trumps methods.
    It's almost like we don't have a Sec of State, and sometimes it seems like he doesn't even want the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    All Little Fat Boy did was agree to meet Trump. The Marxists have a looooong history of stretching out diplomatic meetings. IF you remember the debate about the shape of the table in the first rounds of peace talks with North Vietnam, you get the idea.

    Little Fat Boy is playing for time to perfect his ICBM missiles. He is playing for time to build more of them. He is not going to give up his nukes. He will never give up his nukes. Since that is the case, exactly what will Trump negotiate? And yes, it is entirely possible Kim will try and kill Trump, because this is what he does, and this is what he is.

    Danger, Will Robinson. Danger Will Robinson.
    Seems to me that we were well on our way to our generation's 'Cuban missile crisis' a scant few months ago. Of course we don't believe the No. Korean guy- we tend to not even believe our own govt. officials much of the time!

    But, I for one welcome any change in the ongoing game that takes us a few steps away from the cliff's edge. I have to trust the trump machine to weed their way through the dangers of death and deceit, as well. They seem to have an incredible skill to stay one step ahead- and alive. A bit of deescalation strikes me as a real good thing, given all the lives affected.

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    I am giving this one a "wait and see;" I don't trust Little Kim any further than I can throw him and he is probably just planning to be "Lucy with a football" (love that image) but Trump needs to meet with him under the circumstances (unless it all falls apart first).

    If for no other reason than that puts Trump/the US firmly in the position of attempting to be a peacemaker; he just has to be careful not to be drawn into an unverifiable deal and/or something that just won't work more than a few months.

    But if Trump/the Administration do this right; then if hostilities do break out later it will put the blame on NK itself (hopefully) as long as it doesn't look like appeasement.

    I also suspect the Chinese are partly behind this; basically telling Kimmie either "play nice at least for now or your toast," and I think they made it clear they could make him toast and stick in another puppet pretty easily.

    I don't think the Chinese want a war with the West - YET; not until they feel darn good and ready.
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    from what i heard .kim said if we send him dennis rodman that he would give up all his nukes .its a win win for every body

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    I don't think he'll give up his nukes but he might agree to cease development of putting a warhead on a missile and keeping his gravity bombs as insurance. In turn he will want sanctions relief and security guarantees that are rock solid and personally I'd like to see a formal peace treaty on the peninsula so we can shut down our bases and withdraw. We can't afford the empire anymore and it stretches our military to boot.
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    They're both just actors, working for the same criminals. They follow the script, or else.

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    Jong-un wants power and money, in that order. He's not an expansionist, he's content with his borders.

    President Trump has shown him how to maintain power and increase his economic wealth (most likely through trade agreements and not financial assistance).

    Additionally, if this is accurate, it is a huge strike on China. Having North Korea switch sides will be a huge slap in the face to them.

    Great from President Trump if he pulls this off!
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    Tillerson is working silently behind the scenes - and now he is off to Africa.

    Watch for something interesting to come out of there in the next month.

    I have to disagree that he is ineffective.....the disagreeing with the President is just part of Trump being able to see both sides of an discussion and he needs Tillerson to give him the other side. It seems to be working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Zero View Post
    Jong-un wants power and money, in that order. He's not an expansionist, he's content with his borders.

    President Trump has shown him how to maintain power and increase his economic wealth (most likely through trade agreements and not financial assistance).

    Additionally, if this is accurate, it is a huge strike on China. Having North Korea switch sides will be a huge slap in the face to them.

    Great from President Trump if he pulls this off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sub-Zero View Post
    Jong-un wants power and money, in that order. He's not an expansionist, he's content with his borders.

    President Trump has shown him how to maintain power and increase his economic wealth (most likely through trade agreements and not financial assistance).

    Additionally, if this is accurate, it is a huge strike on China. Having North Korea switch sides will be a huge slap in the face to them.

    Great from President Trump if he pulls this off!
    If China lost its buffer with South Korea who KNOWS what it would do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duffer View Post
    They're both just actors, working for the same criminals. They follow the script, or else.
    Always possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    I don't think he'll give up his nukes but he might agree to cease development of putting a warhead on a missile and keeping his gravity bombs as insurance. In turn he will want sanctions relief and security guarantees that are rock solid and personally I'd like to see a formal peace treaty on the peninsula so we can shut down our bases and withdraw. We can't afford the empire anymore and it stretches our military to boot.
    I don’t see a formal peace treaty as anything great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intothatgoodnight View Post
    Always possible.


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    I think so.

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    If I was Trump I would be very careful when I shook his hand. No telling what he might try to transfer to Trump.

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