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BRKG SYRIAN ARMY FIRES ON ADVANCING TURKISH MILITARY COLUMNS
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    Riam Dalati‏Verified account @Dalatrm · 7h7 hours ago

    BBC contact Hassan Zaki near #AlEiss:
    #Iran militias fired artillery at #TSK forces. 2 Turkish soldiers injured. #Turkey fired back from within its borders with 12 missiles. All targeting Tallet Al Jerdi village.

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    TURKEY REALLY IS GOING TO PULL THE TRIGGER SOON.

    Gang, you only get to make some mistakes ONCE. The day Erdogan seals the Black Sea to Russia, is the day Putin, ie VLAD THE IMPALER, unleashes some serious, serious whoop ass on Turkey. Second, since we have 3,000 troops in Manbji, and since Turkey is now openly saying, and I note these are SENIOR LEVEL TURKISH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, they plan to attack Manbji, and thus DIRECTLY ENGAGE US TROOPS THERE, well you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where that will lead to.

    In Erdogan, we really do have a guy who thinks he is on a "mission from God." Now, gang that type of leader is the most deadly, lethal, disciplined type of leader you can have. I now believe Turkey really is going to do it, and when they do it, well KABOOM!

    Yeah, buying gallons of whiskey seems like a good investment to me.

    Just because we think Erdogan is a raving lunatic, which he really is, doesn't mean he won't do what he says. Seriously, Housecarl we may be seeing headlines out of Syria in a week or so saying that US forces are heavily engaged in combat with NATO member Turkey's military forces. And how things will hit the rotating blade when Turkish F-16's dogfight US F-16's, or F-18's off the carriers. Oh yeah, ain't that going to be special!
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    Breaking | Syrian Army strikes Turkish forces in South Aleppo , Turkish strikes back -https://muraselon.com/en/2018/02/breaking-syrian-army-strikes-turkish-forces-south-aleppo-turkish-strikes-back-report/

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    You know, Daniel Boon even by Doomer Doug's normal doomer instincts, even moi is starting to get nervous about the Syrian situation. I posted about Iran saying Turkey needed to back off, and PRESTO, BINGO, BANGO we get a story saying "Iranian Militias," AND WE KNOW THAT MEANS HEZZBOLLAH lit up the Turks. Yep, fecal material thick enough to need a shop vac or a snorkel.
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    #Pt. #IRGC-linked forces are shelling Al-Eis area & Turkish Army retaliating bombing nearby Hader. New #TSK convoy entered #Idlib province few ago.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/QalaatAlM...60729983279104

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    Gang, you only get to make some mistakes ONCE. The day Erdogan seals the Black Sea to Russia, is the day Putin, ie VLAD THE IMPALER, unleashes some serious, serious whoop ass on Turkey. Second, since we have 3,000 troops in Manbji, and since Turkey is now openly saying, and I note these are SENIOR LEVEL TURKISH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, they plan to attack Manbji, and thus DIRECTLY ENGAGE US TROOPS THERE, well you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where that will lead to.

    In Erdogan, we really do have a guy who thinks he is on a "mission from God." Now, gang that type of leader is the most deadly, lethal, disciplined type of leader you can have. I now believe Turkey really is going to do it, and when they do it, well KABOOM!

    Yeah, buying gallons of whiskey seems like a good investment to me.

    Just because we think Erdogan is a raving lunatic, which he really is, doesn't mean he won't do what he says. Seriously, Housecarl we may be seeing headlines out of Syria in a week or so saying that US forces are heavily engaged in combat with NATO member Turkey's military forces. And how things will hit the rotating blade when Turkish F-16's dogfight US F-16's, or F-18's off the carriers. Oh yeah, ain't that going to be special!
    It's worse than that. Considering the "American Way of War" and the top people around Trump, this mess won't be limited to Syria. I expect to hear rumors of the 173rd and the rest of US NATO units going on alert, as well as units in the US well before this happens.

    As I noted earlier, Erdogan has culled his generals, as well as the whole country, of anyone of influence against his vision. With "yes men" around him with the same view there are no brakes on the runaway train he's sending to the "end of track".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    You know, Daniel Boon even by Doomer Doug's normal doomer instincts, even moi is starting to get nervous about the Syrian situation. I posted about Iran saying Turkey needed to back off, and PRESTO, BINGO, BANGO we get a story saying "Iranian Militias," AND WE KNOW THAT MEANS HEZZBOLLAH lit up the Turks. Yep, fecal material thick enough to need a shop vac or a snorkel.
    I could,not agree more this will not end well

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    [QUOTE=Doomer Doug;6762243]Gang, you only get to make some mistakes ONCE. The day Erdogan seals the Black Sea to Russia, is the day Putin, ie VLAD THE IMPALER, unleashes some serious, serious whoop ass on Turkey. Second, since we have 3,000 troops in Manbji, and since Turkey is now openly saying, and I note these are SENIOR LEVEL TURKISH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, they plan to attack Manbji, and thus DIRECTLY ENGAGE US TROOPS THERE, well you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where that will lead to.

    In Erdogan, we really do have a guy who thinks he is on a "mission from God." Now, gang that type of leader is the most deadly, lethal, disciplined type of leader you can have. I now believe Turkey really is going to do it, and when they do it, well KABOOM!

    Yeah, buying gallons of whiskey seems like a good investment to me.

    Just because we think Erdogan is a raving lunatic, which he really is, doesn't mean he won't do what he says. Seriously, Housecarl we may be seeing headlines out of Syria in a week or so saying that US forces are heavily engaged in combat with NATO member Turkey's military forces. And how things will hit the rotating blade when Turkish F

    Send 2-4 B-1 bombers, and take out every Turkish vehicle in sight.

    I wish the hell we get our base out of Turkey, support the Kurds with tanks and anti aircraft weapons. Get all US Troops out of there and let the mother burn. Every country wants blood from the other. Let them go!!!

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    [QUOTE=Vegas321;6762260]
    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    Gang, you only get to make some mistakes ONCE. The day Erdogan seals the Black Sea to Russia, is the day Putin, ie VLAD THE IMPALER, unleashes some serious, serious whoop ass on Turkey. Second, since we have 3,000 troops in Manbji, and since Turkey is now openly saying, and I note these are SENIOR LEVEL TURKISH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, they plan to attack Manbji, and thus DIRECTLY ENGAGE US TROOPS THERE, well you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where that will lead to.

    In Erdogan, we really do have a guy who thinks he is on a "mission from God." Now, gang that type of leader is the most deadly, lethal, disciplined type of leader you can have. I now believe Turkey really is going to do it, and when they do it, well KABOOM!

    Yeah, buying gallons of whiskey seems like a good investment to me.

    Just because we think Erdogan is a raving lunatic, which he really is, doesn't mean he won't do what he says. Seriously, Housecarl we may be seeing headlines out of Syria in a week or so saying that US forces are heavily engaged in combat with NATO member Turkey's military forces. And how things will hit the rotating blade when Turkish F

    Send 2-4 B-1 bombers, and take out every Turkish vehicle in sight.

    I wish the hell we get our base out of Turkey, support the Kurds with tanks and anti aircraft weapons. Get all US Troops out of there and let the mother burn. Every country wants blood from the other. Let them go!!!
    You do that, you'd better be prepared to go all the way to Ankara and the Presidential Palace...

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    Turkey’s Expansionist Military Policies in the Middle East

    Col. (ret.) Dr. Jacques Neriah, January 24, 2018
    Institute for Contemporary Affairs
    Founded jointly with the Wechsler Family Foundation
    Vol. 18, No. 2

    Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs

    Turkey’s projection of its military presence in the Middle East has become a source of worry to the “moderate” Arab states and specifically to Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

    There are Turkish forces deep inside Syrian and Iraqi territory.

    Turkey’s military intelligence had been blamed by Egyptian authorities for being involved in the Sinai insurgency, siding with the Islamists, while Lebanese sources have mentioned the activities of Turkish agents in destabilizing Lebanon.

    In 2014, Turkey deployed a 4,000-strong military contingent in Qatar.

    In 2018, Turkey completed constructing a $50 million training base in the Somalian capital of Mogadishu to be run by the Turks for 5,000-10,000 recruits from Somalia and other African countries.

    Moreover, the Sudanese government agreed to lease the port of Suakin, along the Red Sea shore, to Turkey for restoration as a major military and civilian port. Suakin was once the naval headquarters of the Ottoman fleet in the Red Sea.

    While Iran’s hegemonic ambitions in the Middle East have been under the world’s magnifying glass, Turkey has been silently projecting its military presence in the area to such an extent it has become a source of worry to the “moderate” Arab states and specifically to Egypt and Saudi Arabia
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    Indeed, since its invasion of Northern Cyprus in 1974, Turkey had underplayed its military in the Middle East as a significant military power. The Syrian civil war, the emergence of ISIS, and the proliferation of radical Islam coupled with a president identified with the Muslim Brothers have all been instrumental in appearing to Turkey’s critics in the Arab world as “the new Ottomans.”

    Turkey’s involvement in Syria began with its first military incursion 35 kilometers into Syrian territory in February 2015 to safeguard the tomb of Suleiman Shah, the grandfather of Osman I, the founder of the Ottoman Empire, who died in 1236.1 Turkey claimed that the tomb was endangered by ISIS engaged in fighting the Assad regime. As it transpired, Turkey had kept a military detachment of 40 soldiers to protect the tomb in accordance with the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne with Syria. Under pressure, Turkey moved into Syrian territory and evacuated the tomb and relics in the mausoleum with the declarative intention to return them eventually.

    During the Syrian civil war years, Turkey aided and promoted “its” rebel factions fighting the Assad regime by supplying weapons, training, safe haven, and passage through its territory. At the same time, Turkey found the way to cooperate with Russia and Iran, the protectors of Bashar Assad’s regime. Turkey succeeded in obtaining their acquiescence for its military incursion in the Kurdish area (Idlib region) adjacent to Turkey’s southwest border with Syria. Under the pretext of fighting ISIS, the Turkish forces began in August 2016 what was code-named “Operation Euphrates Shield” which brought the Turkish forces deep inside Syrian sovereign territory, west of the Euphrates river. They only stopped when they saw the American Stars and Stripes flag flying over Kurdish territory east of the Euphrates.

    Turkey kept up its pressure, and in January 2018, ordered its troops to attack the Kurdish town of Afrin, citing the necessity to fight the Kurdish YPG party considered by Turkey to be another incarnation of the much hated irredentist Kurdish PKK. Ignoring American, French, and NATO warnings, Turkish President Erdogan and his ministers threatened to continue eastwards to eradicate the self-declared autonomous Kurdish areas stretching from Kobani until east of Raqqa.

    Oddly enough, while Turkey raised the specter of ISIS and the Kurdish PKK, Turkey used the same arguments to extend its military presence deep into Iraqi territory. In the year following the ISIS blitz war and the fall of Mosul, Turkey moved a tank battalion east of Mosul to a small Assyrian town by the name of Baashiqa. The move was presented by the Turks as a gesture meant to train Kurdish Peshmerga recruits for their fight against ISIS.

    In the course of 2017, in the last days of ISIS presence in Mosul, Iraq asked Turkey to withdraw its forces from Iraqi territory. Turkey answered by saying it would retreat when ISIS is eradicated. With the fall of Mosul and the defeat of ISIS, the issue has not been brought back again by Iraq which suddenly found a helping Turkish hand in isolating the Kurdish enclave as a “punishment” for having dared to conduct an independence referendum.

    Turkey’s military has also served its own political ambitions and goals. Turkey’s military intelligence had been blamed by Egyptian authorities for being involved in the Sinai insurgency, siding with the Islamists,2 while Lebanese sources have also mentioned the activities of Turkish agents in de-stabilizing Lebanon.3
    Turkey in the Gulf

    Unlike the Turkish involvement in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and Egypt, the Turkish military presence in Qatar has another dimension. Under a defense agreement signed between the two nations in 2014, Turkey deployed a 4,000-strong military contingent in Qatar which in fact is the Kingdom’s other insurance against Saudi Arabia meddling in its politics and certainly a reasonable deterrent against Iranian subversive intentions.

    No doubt the Turkish presence was seen as an obstacle by the Saudis who seemed to have contemplated a land incursion to Qatar following the siege imposed on it by the other members of the GCC.

    In its efforts to circumvent Saudi Arabia and in line with a policy of extending its military power and influence, In 2018, Turkey completed constructing a $50 million training base in the Somalian capital of Mogadishu to be run by the Turks for 5,000-10,000 recruits from Somalia and other African countries.4

    The Turkish base in Somalia under construction

    Finally, following President Erdogan’s visit to Sudan in late December 2017, the Sudanese government agreed to lease the port of Suakin, along the Red Sea shore about 60 kilometers south of Port Sudan. Turkey committed to reconstruct Suakin and restore its golden days as a major naval military and civilian port in the Red Sea. Suakin, protected by a natural bay, was once the naval headquarters of the Ottoman fleet in the Red Sea.

    The port lost its importance when Lord Cromer, consul-general of Egypt, ordered the construction of Port Sudan to the north, a move that made Suakin fall into disuse and forgotten by the flow of history.

    Arab States Object to Turkey’s Red Sea Base

    This last move was, in fact, the straw that broke the back of the Arab camels. Egypt and Saudi Arabia attacked both Turkey and Sudan. The Sudanese were accused of handing over Arab land to the “new Ottomans,” and they treated Sudan’s president as a traitor to the Arab cause. The issue also impacted on a major water dispute between Egypt and Ethiopia, with Sudan taking Ethiopia’s side.

    Sudan claimed the disputed area of the Halaib triangle between Sudan and Egypt, a claim ignored by Egypt. Sudan also declared illegal Egypt’s transfer of the two islands of Sanafir and Tiran to Saudi Arabia, claiming they were part of its heritage. On the other hand, the Egyptians argued that Suakin was part and parcel of the Egyptian kingdom and was torn from the mother country by the British. Furthermore, Sudan was accused of siding with Ethiopia on the water dispute rising from the Renaissance Dam in Ethiopia. The recent tri-partite meeting between the Turkish, Qatari, and Sudanese chiefs of staffs only deepened the rift between the countries. Rumors about Egyptian forces preparing to attack Ethiopia’s Renaissance Dam on the Nile were followed by Sudanese troops beefing up the Kassala area bordering Eritrea, Sudan, and Ethiopia.

    An emergency meeting between the Ethiopian Prime Minister and Egyptian President Al-Sisi seems to have calmed down the parties, all being attentive to the next steps to be taken by Turkey.

    To sum up, Turkey under Erdogan has projected its military power using the different events in the Middle East as a cover. At this point, it seems that military power is used as another argument in Turkey’s political debate with its rivals and allies. Facing the might of Iran, Russia, the U.S.-led coalition, and Israel, Turkey felt it had no choice but to show its flag if it wants to be heard.


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    1 BBC, Turkey enters Syria to remove precious Suleyman Shah tomb, http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31572257
    2 http://jcpa.org/article/egypt-accuse...of-subversion/
    3 http://jcpa.org/article/is-turkey-pl...ilize-lebanon/
    4 https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news...e-in-mogadishu
    5 https://somalia.liveuamap.com/en/201...rseas-military
    Publication: Jerusalem Issue Briefs


    Col. (ret.) Dr. Jacques Neriah, a special analyst for the Middle East at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, was formerly Foreign Policy Advisor to Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Deputy Head for Assessment of Israeli Military Intelligence

    http://jcpa.org/article/turkeys-expa...e-middle-east/

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    Gee, all of this expanded fighting started the last 24 hours, more or less. I wonder if Turkey realizes that when they shot down the Russian plane, murdered the pilot, and started saying they were going to head to the Euphrates, it would UNLEASH all the pent up Assad junior stuff, plus the Iran stuff, plus the Russian stuff, and then the Hezzbollah stuff. All of this military stuff was prepped, primed and waiting in the wings for the go signal. Turkey gave the go signal and all the horses are out of the gate and racing madly towards, well total chaos.

    Yep, it is now time for the famous Alfaman black helicopter in DC report.
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    [QUOTE=Housecarl;6762270]
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas321 View Post

    You do that, you'd better be prepared to go all the way to Ankara and the Presidential Palace...
    Russia may do that dirty work...

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    If Vlad the Impaler gets mad enough, the Russian tanks will go all the way to the Presidential palace.
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    I got the Alfaman black helicopter, okay this time they were green ones, report back and DC IS HOPPING, HOPPING, HOPPING. Yep, "they" know what is really going on in Syria. Stock Market crash. expanding war in Syria. The release of the "memos" discrediting the deepstate/shadow government. 2018 is off to an interesting start. Oh yeah, the continuing budget resolution expires in a little over 72 hours, on the 9th I think.

    The slow death scenario is looking to have been sped up, as in by Friday. Seriously, what if the stock market is down another 5,000 points by Friday? Or Russia has taken out Turkey's Presidential palace with cruise missiles? Heck, if this keeps up Daniel and Housecarl, I may reconsider no longer smoking pot.
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    Turkey is no better than ISIS. They intend to reclaim the old empire with its oil. At the same time, there will be a genocide of Kurds. Kurds are the modern Armenians.

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    The Armenians didn't have guns. The Kurds do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomer Doug View Post
    I got the Alfaman black helicopter, okay this time they were green ones, report back and DC IS HOPPING, HOPPING, HOPPING. Yep, "they" know what is really going on in Syria. Stock Market crash. expanding war in Syria. The release of the "memos" discrediting the deepstate/shadow government. 2018 is off to an interesting start. Oh yeah, the continuing budget resolution expires in a little over 72 hours, on the 9th I think.

    The slow death scenario is looking to have been sped up, as in by Friday. Seriously, what if the stock market is down another 5,000 points by Friday? Or Russia has taken out Turkey's Presidential palace with cruise missiles? Heck, if this keeps up Daniel and Housecarl, I may reconsider no longer smoking pot.
    Heck, why stop at pot?

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    Why folks don't revisit a three year old thread is beyond me?

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    This is an interesting Twitter.

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    Syria Syrian civil war Analysis

    Russian-Turkish axis in Syria faces meltdown

    With suspicions running high that the nominal allies drew each other's blood on February 3, Ankara may well seek a modus vivendi with the US

    By M.K. Bhadrakumar February 6, 2018 1:26 PM (UTC+8)

    Two things differentiate the downing of a Russian Su-25 ground-attack jet in the western province of Idlib on February 3 from the drone attacks on the Russian air base at Hmeimim a month earlier.

    One, Russia could thwart the attack on January 5 by a wave of drone aircraft but singularly failed to anticipate the use of man-portable air defense systems by extremists operating in Idlib under Turkish watch. Russia lost an ace fighter pilot in the latter attack.

    Two, Moscow sensed an American hand in the drone attack on January 5, but this time around Russia’s Tass news agency promptly highlighted an American denial on record. The Kremlin’s Dmitry Peskov made a point of cautioning against speculations “before one gets precise information as to how terrorists in Syria got that particular man-portable air defense system and other weapons that they have.”

    Notably, however, an influential lawmaker – Dmitry Sablin, coordinator of the Russia-Syria parliamentary friendship group – went ahead to “speculate,” saying: “We have information that the MANPADS used to bring down our jet was brought into Syria from a neighboring country several days ago. Countries from whose territory weapons arrive, that are then used against Russian servicemen, must understand that this will not go unpunished.”

    Idlib province is situated right on Syria’s border with Turkey. It is supposed to be a “sealed border” under strict surveillance by Turkish security agencies. If what Sablin alleged was based on factual information, Russian intelligence recently monitored the transfer of MANPADS from Turkey to extremists.

    Curiously, the day after Sablin spoke, Turkey came out with a counter-allegation of its own, attributed to “security sources,” to the effect that the weaponry used in the attack against a Turkish army tank on February 3 by Kurds in Afrin “might have been a Russian-made 9M113 Konkurs” and that the “claim is being evaluated.” Five Turkish soldiers were killed in that attack.

    Suffice to say, the air is thick with innuendos and dark hints that Russia and Turkey may have drawn each other’s blood on February 3, despite notionally being allies in Syria’s hybrid war.

    In January, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan reached out to President Vladimir Putin to clarify the situation. But over the latest incident, no such exchange has so far taken place, even though Erdogan is under obligation to initiate one – according to the understanding reached in talks in Astana last year following the Syrian ceasefire, Turkey is entrusted with setting up “observation posts” in Idlib to monitor the activities of extremist groups.

    Meanwhile, on February 5, Putin sent an effusive message to Nicos Anastasiades congratulating him on his re-election as the President of the Republic of Cyprus. Putin’s message expressed confidence that the “constructive dialogue” and “joint work” by the two countries are in the mutual interests of both and “in keeping with efforts to improve stability and security in Europe and the Eastern Mediterranean.” Cyprus’ relations with Turkey have been unfriendly ever since the Turkish invasion and occupation of the northern part of the country in 1974.

    For Turkey, the knot is three-fold. Firstly, it cannot come to terms with the new reality that Russia (which has civilizational ties with Greece and Cyprus) has today become the dominant power in the Eastern Mediterranean. Secondly, it disapproves of ongoing Syrian military operations, supported by air power, to regain control of Idlib from opposition groups that have enjoyed Turkish support. And, above all, thirdly, Erdogan’s grand design to establish a permanent Turkish foothold in Syria (which was ruled by the Ottomans), will remain a pipedream so long as Russia underpins Syria’s unity and territorial integrity. Turkey has all along viewed Moscow’s links with the Kurds in Afrin suspiciously.

    Typically, therefore, Erdogan will now seek a modus vivendi with the US. Of course, it will be a dream come true for the US if the hairline crack in the Russian-Turkish axis in Syria widens and becomes a rift in the coming weeks. In their opposition to the establishment of Russian bases in Syria, Washington and Ankara are on the same page.

    On the other hand, the Pentagon will expect Erdogan to give up his plans to launch any military operation to attack the Kurds in Manbij. The US simply cannot accede to the Turkish demand that it break its alliance with Syria’s Kurds. US Defence Secretary James Mattis hinted on Friday that talks are going on with Turkey to dissuade Erdogan from ordering an operation on Manbij.

    For his part, Erdogan will seek a tradeoff with the Trump administration to create conditions for a broader rapprochement with the US. He is well aware that the US will see advantages in the developing situation to push its containment strategy against Iran more effectively in Syria and to isolate the Assad regime. Indeed, a rift in the Russian-Turkish axis in Syria opens an entirely new ball game in the country, one that enables the US to create new facts on the ground and negotiate harder on the terms of a future Syrian settlement. Israel is also a stakeholder here.

    Erdogan all along hankered for an enhanced role for Turkey as the flag carrier in the West’s strategies in Syria, fancying himself to be the role model for the Muslim Middle East. But President Barack Obama was disinterested in any such dalliance with the mercurial Sultan in Ankara.

    Things are very much in flux, though. Erdogan met Pope Francis on Monday. It was the first time in 59 years that a Turkish President had visited the Vatican.

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    Abdulgafar Olayinka Mustapha · Unilorin MILR '12
    Once again the Sultan revealed his true colour, however I doubt if Putin will allow the situation to degenerate because he is a cold blooded pragmatist. His sight his transfixed on the end game and he knows a lot of flux like this would occur but with realistic understanding they needed to be overcome before reaching that end. Edorgan is a necessary evil which the Russia/Iran/ Syria axis will have to tolerate for now, to try and take on every opposition in Syria is a fools errand one that will play into the advantage of the US and enmeshed Russia in a quagmire, a lesson learnt in the theatre of Afghanistan, and the Sultan is neither a friend nor enemy of Russia in the Syria arena, he is simply watching out for Turkey's.

    However, this type of opportunistic politicking is highly dangerous in the long run as Ali Abdullah Salehi later found out to his ditrement and I believe the respite from regime change Edorgan enjoy borders on the infighting in Washington within the political elites and is just a stop gap measure. The day of reckoning still lies ahead and when it finally arrived who knows the price it may demand from the him.
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    Ralph Jason Regudo · Cebu City
    Speculations. Turkey could just proceed with the war against the Kurds and the Russian stays to prop up Assad's regime while the US continuosly loses face. They all wait and see what happens next. That is it.
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    The Russo-Iranian axis should eliminate this terrorist mongol joker Er-Dog-An. Turks need to be deported by Putin back to East Turkestan, before being gulaged in Siberia! They don't belong in eastern mediteranean, never did.
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    Erdogan says U.S. has 'calculations' against Turkey, Iran, Russia in Syria

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    ANKARA (Reuters) - The United States is working against the interests of Turkey, Iran and maybe Russia in northern Syria, where it is sending in military supplies to an area controlled by Kurdish-dominated forces, President Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday.

    Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan addresses members of parliament from his ruling AK Party (AKP) during a meeting at the Turkish parliament in Ankara, Turkey, February 6, 2018.

    “If the United States says they are sending 5,000 trucks and 2,000 cargo planes of weapons for the fight against Daesh (Islamic State), we don’t believe this,” Erdogan told members of his ruling AK Party in parliament.

    “It means you have calculations against Turkey and Iran, and maybe Russia,” he said, repeating a call for U.S. troops to withdraw from the Syrian town of Manbij.

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    Trump needs to get our military out of Turkey IMMEDIATELY, start a removal process of Turkey from NATO with the threat the US will pull out if Turkey is not expelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightEcho View Post
    Trump needs to get our military out of Turkey IMMEDIATELY, start a removal process of Turkey from NATO with the threat the US will pull out if Turkey is not expelled.
    Well...

    He is sending the two biggest Islamic apologists in his administration over to talk to Erdogan, so... While I agree 100% with you, probably not gonna happen.

    US National Security Advisor McMaster, Secretary of State Tillerson to visit Turkey
    U.S. President Donald Trump’s national security advisor, H.R. McMaster, will visit Istanbul this weekend and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson will visit the Turkish capital Ankara next week, it was announced on Feb. 6.

    The official visits come amid heightened tension between the United States and Turkey, with the latter staging an ongoing military operation into the Syrian district of Afrin against the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG).

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-...-turkey-126892
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Well...

    He is sending the two biggest Islamic apologists in his administration over to talk to Erdogan, so... While I agree 100% with you, probably not gonna happen.

    US National Security Advisor McMaster, Secretary of State Tillerson to visit Turkey
    U.S. President Donald Trump’s national security advisor, H.R. McMaster, will visit Istanbul this weekend and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson will visit the Turkish capital Ankara next week, it was announced on Feb. 6.

    The official visits come amid heightened tension between the United States and Turkey, with the latter staging an ongoing military operation into the Syrian district of Afrin against the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG).

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/us-...-turkey-126892
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    Turkey will 'hand Manbij to Arab owners' after expelling YPG: Erdoğan

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...ZsBDg_Uzi8mG1Q. In the article he says he wants to expand Turkish territory.

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    WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

    Hmm, so the USA has three thousand troops in manbij. So, the USA says it won't pull them out or abandon the Kurds in Manbij. So, the Kurds are mobilizing everybody, including their grandmothers, to fight Turkey and its proxies. So, Erdogan, along with all three of his senior government officials, say they will kick the Kurds out of Manbij. So, that means the Turks, or their proxies, will engage in direct combat with American forces. So, the Russians are now bombing the crap out of certain Turkish proxies because they shot down the jet and made the pilot eat his grenade. Meanwhile, Iran's proxy Hezzbollah is also fighting the Turkish proxies, and Assad junior, who was starting to feel left out, is now lighting up even more Turkish proxies.

    Gee, Daniel Boon and Housecarl, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG IN THAT SCENARIO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielboon View Post
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...ZsBDg_Uzi8mG1Q. In the article he says he wants to expand Turkish territory.
    Suuuuuure, he will...

    Obama administration cheated Turkey in Syria: President Erdoğan
    The administration of former U.S. President Barack Obama “failed to keep its promises” to Turkey in Syria, not following up its pledge to “leave Manbij to its rightful owners,” President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said.

    “There was an operation during Mr. Obama’s administration. That operation aimed to clear terrorists from Manbij. But he failed to keep up to his promise and cheated us,” Erdoğan said in a speech to neighborhood heads (muhtars) in Ankara on Jan. 24.

    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/erd...borders-126224

    Erdogan to Trump: US should withdraw from Syria’s Manbij
    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...-s-Manbij.html

    Erdogan vows to expand military operation from Afrin to Manbij
    https://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...to-Manbij.html

    Turkish operations in Syria to reach up to Manbij and Iraqi border: Erdoğan
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...erdogan-126331

    Erdogan: Syria offensive could expand as far as Iraq border
    http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2018/0...es-Kurds-Afrin
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    Death toll rises amid relentless Syrian air raids: 10 killed
    BEIRUT – New airstrikes launched by Russian and Syrian government forces on a besieged rebel-held region east of Damascus killed at least 10 people on Wednesday, opposition activists said, part of an ongoing aerial campaign that has killed dozens of civilians in the past few days.

    Around 60 civilians were killed Tuesday in airstrikes and shelling that overwhelmed rescue workers and prompted calls for an immediate
    cease-fire that would allow the delivery of critical medical care.
    The opposition's civil defense workers, known as the White Helmets, said 10 civilians were killed on Wednesday and many were wounded after warplanes targeted the town of Hamouriyeh, causing a building to collapse over its residents' heads. The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported an overall death toll of 23 civilians for Wednesday, which it said raised the number of people killed in the area since Jan. 29 to 384, including 94 children. https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,...097365,00.html

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    4 SYRIAN KURDS: TURKISH FORCES HIT SCHOOL, WATER PLANT IN SYRIA'S AFRIN

    BEIRUT - Syrian Kurdish fighters accused the Turkish army on Wednesday of shelling a primary school and a water plant in Syria's northern Afrin region.

    Nouri Mahmoud, spokesman of the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia, said Turkish forces and their Syrian insurgent allies damaged the water plant that supplies Afrin city. They also shelled a primary school in the Maydanki village a day earlier, but the artillery caused no casulaties, he said.

    The Turkish military did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Ankara launched an air and ground offensive last month against Kurdish fighters in Syria's Afrin region on its border, opening a new front in the multi-sided Syrian war. http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/S...s-Afrin-540962

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    US eyes partitioning of Syria, gave up on promise that fighting ISIS ‘only goal’ – Lavrov

    The US appears to be aiming at dividing Syria, as US troops still linger in the country even after its promise to end the mission after driving out Islamic State fighters, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said.
    “It’s very likely that the Americans have taken a course of dividing the country. They just gave up their assurances, given to us, that the only goal of their presence in Syria – without an invitation of the legitimate government – was to defeat Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) and the terrorists,” Lavrov said.Regarding pledges to keep a limited military contingent in the war-town state, Lavrov says the US is not being open about their true objectives.

    “Now [the Americans] are saying that they will keep their presence till they make sure a steady process of a political settlement in Syria starts, which will result in regime change,” the minister said during a conference in Sochi.

    The foreign minister claimed there are “plans of virtual division of Syria.”

    “We know of [them] and we will ask our American colleagues, how they are seeing [Syria’s division].The US has nearly 2,000 servicemen currently stationed in Syria. In December, the Pentagon announced the troops will remain on the ground for as long as needed “to support our partners and prevent the return of terrorist groups.” Secretary of State Rex Tillerson later reiterated the plan.

    Although the Syrian government regards the deployment of US troops on its sovereign territory as “illegal,” Washington justifies its presence under the pretext of fighting IS militants.

    Moscow, which operates in the country on the Syrian government’s request, insists that the US has no grounds to have a military presence in the country without the permission of the Syrian government.

    Washington has also been arming and funding various groups under the banners of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).The US, flirting with various segments of Syrian society that oppose the government with arms in their hands, may lead to very dangerous consequences,” Lavrov warned.

    The Turkish-backed FSA is currently engaged in fighting with parts of the SDF forces, namely the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG), in Afrin. These issues have caused serious tensions between Ankara and Washington.

    Meanwhile, FSA is trying to persuade the US to revive the defunct CIA program which provided cash, weapons and instructors to “moderate” rebels, a high-ranking rebel official told Reuters.Last July, the Trump administration reportedly ended the respective program launched back in 2013 during Barack Obama’s presidency.

    Moscow has consistently warned against arming the so-called moderate rebel factions in Syria, pointing out that weapons supplied to them often fall into the hands of jihadist groups.

    Rights groups allege that some rebel factions might have committed war crimes against civilians. In May 2016, Amnesty International said armed groups surrounding the Sheikh Maqsoud district near Aleppo “have repeatedly carried out indiscriminate attacks that have struck civilian homes, streets, markets and mosques, killing and injuring civilians and displaying a shameful disregard for human life.”https://www.rt.com/news/418141-lavro...yria-division/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post
    Why folks don't revisit a three year old thread is beyond me?

    http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...elf-To-Be-GOD\

    Prophecy fulfilled...
    This thread should be pulled to main. We are watching the last days unfold as predicted and foretold. We can use this to sharpen our vision as we look for the key players and make better guesses about where we should position ourselves. The Operation Olive Branch just smacked me awake (more than I already was) to the audacity of this devil.

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    Russia asking Turkey for access to jet crash site in Syria: Ifax

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...-idUSKBN1FR1VY (fair use)

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia is talking to Turkey about gaining access to the crash site of a Russian Su-25 jet downed near Idlib in northern Syria, Interfax news agency cited Vladimir Shamanov, head of the Russian parliament’s defense committee, as saying on Wednesday.

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    Things are not looking good for Turkey now. They have bitten off more than they can chew and have badly underestimated the military capacity of the Kurdish forces.

    http://www.rudaw.net/english/analysis/05022018


    Turkey’s Olive Branch may prove disastrously different than Euphrates Shield
    By Paul Iddon yesterday at 06:53

    Two weeks into Turkey's Olive Branch operation against the Syrian Kurdish Afrin canton, it's already clear that this operation is a lot different from Ankara's prior Euphrates Shield operation, and not to its advantage.

    Euphrates Shield (launched on August 24, 2016 and officially concluded last March 29) targeted both ISIS and the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) in the 60-mile swath of border territory stretching from the west bank of the Euphrates River to Azaz, situated to Afrin's east.

    From the get-go it was clear Euphrates Shield was as much, arguably more, about preventing the YPG from linking Kobane to Afrin as it was about combating ISIS. However, Turkey's efforts in removing ISIS from that area enabled it to seize that strategic border region and fulfill its objective of blocking any YPG corridor to Afrin without widespread opposition, or even much criticism, from regional powers or the United States.

    With Olive Branch, this isn't the case. Turkey is targeting the YPG and has voiced its intention to essentially invade that small, surrounded, and isolated canton. This constitutes the first time Turkey invaded part of Syrian Kurdistan (Rojava) proper. Past clashes between Turkey's Free Syrian Army (FSA) proxy fighters and the YPG, during Euphrates Shield, were in and around the Shahba region – territories outside of the three Kurdish cantons between Kobane and Afrin, which most notably include Manbij and Tel Rifaat.

    This has made the operation harder for Ankara to convincingly sell. There is no ISIS presence in Afrin despite Turkey's ill-founded claims, which an Associated Press fact check evaluating Ankara's pretexts for this operation debunked.

    During the aforementioned Euphrates Shield clashes, Washington, which supported both sides against ISIS, invariably urged de-escalation. Furthermore, it never opposed the operation since it supported Ankara's aim of routing ISIS from the border and shared its opposition to the YPG connecting Kobane to Afrin.

    Conversely US President Donald Trump has told his Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan that Olive Branch is "undercutting our shared goals in Syria" and warned him against coming into confrontation with US forces. Trump was clearly alluding to the fact that Turkey is once again threatening to attack Manbij, where the US established a troop presence to prevent clashes from breaking out between Kurdish and Turkish-backed forces.

    The operation's clear focus on targeting the Kurds has also sparked protests in European capitals and compelled Germany to withhold upgrades for Turkey's fleet of German-made Leopard II main battle tanks. This is significant given that the upgrades were expected to include improved armour and protection. Such upgrades are vital for Turkey's armoured forces given the fact they are regularly used to fight unconventional adversaries like the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), who are known to possess formidable anti-tank missiles. Aside from its Leopards the backbone of Turkey's tank fleet consists of aging American-made M60 Patton tanks, several of which were taken out of action by anti-tank weapons during Euphrates Shield.

    A fortnight into Olive Branch and Turkey, which possesses vastly superior firepower (the opening salvos of Olive Branch consisted of a whopping 72 Turkish warplanes bombing Afrin) and manpower (Ankara's FSA proxies alone consist of approximately 25,000 militiamen versus approximately 8-10,000 YPG and all-female YPJ fighters), has already faced difficulty in holding onto the swathes of Afrin they've managed to capture so far. For example, it had to capture the strategically-important Mount Besraya at least twice. Shortly after capturing it the second time, on January 28, the Turkish government planned to give the press a tour of the area only to cancel it due to a YPG counterattack.


    "Turkish backed force takes territory by day [and] lose territory by night," is how one Afrin resident cited by journalist Amberin Zaman summed up the situation.

    ISIS' tactical withdrawal from the border-city of Jarablus on the very first day of Euphrates Shield was, on the other hand, a boon for Ankara. Only later would it face a much tougher and drawn out battle against the militants in the city of al-Bab, 30 kilometers further south of the border.

    Turkey's usage of FSA proxies in Euphrates Shield left a lot to be desired. They hadn't any adequate training in disarming ISIS' improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and, in the al-Bab battle, had to be bolstered by Turkish troop reinforcements to the extent that regular Turkish troops and special forces eventually equaled the number of those militiamen on that battlefield.

    Following this experience Turkey said it was establishing a new FSA with better training and weapons for its future operations in Syria. Two weeks into Olive Branch and they haven't yet demonstrated any new capabilities on the battlefield.

    The Afrin-based YPG/YPJ, on the other hand, are battle-hardened and have shown fierce determination in resisting the offensive. This was demonstrated by 19-year-old YPJ fighter Avesta Khabur blowing herself up in order to prevent the advance of a Turkish tank into Afrin and the group's killing of five Turkish soldiers in a single attack on another tank on February 4.

    Erdogan claims that Turkey has no designs on Syrian territory and will leave once their objectives are met in Afrin. However the Turks have already retained substantial military forces inside Syria for 18-months with no sign of leaving anytime soon.

    Less than 24 hours after the launch of Euphrates Shield the then Syrian Kurdish co-leader Salih Muslim spoke of Turkey entering the Syrian "quagmire" and predicted its ultimate defeat. With Ankara now openly speaking about long-term goals in northern Syria – Erdogan says Turkey will destroy the YPG in Afrin and return it to its "rightful owners", implying that it's not authentically Kurdish, and resettle the 3.5 million Syrian refugees in Turkey in northern Syria – Olive Branch could well drag on for many more months and prove disastrous for its perpetrators.
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    The Kurds are now massing for a Stalingrad level defense of Afrin.

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13961118001175

    Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:1
    Hundreds of Kurdish Fighters Dispatched to Northern Syria to Face Turkish Army

    TEHRAN (FNA)- A large number Kurdish fighters and fresh recruits deployed in Hasaka in Northeastern Syria have arrived in Afrin region in Northwestern Aleppo amid intensifying clashes between the Kurds and the Turkish Army, a media outlet reported on Wednesday.

    The Turkish-language state-run Anadolu news agency reported that the newly arrived convoy of the Kurdish fighters included hundreds of buses and vehicles.

    It further said that over 2,000 gunmen recruited by the SDF were accompanying the convoy of 500 Kurdish militias.

    Anadolu said that the convoy was sent from the towns of Qamishli, Ra'as al-Ein, Amouda, Hasaka city, al-Darabiyeh and Tal Hamis to Ein al-Arab (Kobani) region and later left Kibani along with the Kurdish fighters for Manbij and to be ultimately deployed in Afrin region.

    Reports said on Tuesday that the Kurdish militias in Northern Syria destroyed three tanks of the Turkish Army during clashes in Afrin region in Northwestern Aleppo.

    Kurdish sources reported that one of the Turkish army tanks was targeted by a guided missile in the village of Jamli Bil West of the town of Jandaris South of the town of Afrin.

    Also, the Kurdish-language Hawar news reported that a Turkish tank was destroyed in the Kurdish forces' attack in the village of Haj Balal in Shiheh region.

    It added that another Turkish army tank was targeted in clashes in the village of Bikeh in Bolboleh region, leaving five Turkish army men dead.

    In the meantime, nine forces of the Turkey-led Operation Olive Branch were killed and their military vehicles were destroyed in the Kurdish fighters' attack in the village of Khalil in Mobata region and in the village of Shadya in Rajoiu region.
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    Considering the urban environment favors the defender and the longer they're tied up, the bigger a presence the Turks and their surrogates are going to have localized, their logistical tail is going to make one heck of a juicy target for everyone now getting involved. That in turn is very likely going to "tempt" Erdogan to commit more forces etc.

    Yeah this is definitely brewing up a real regional mess...

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    Napoleon has two famous logistics statements.

    "Military amateurs study tactics, but military professionals study logistics."

    "Military amateurs study tactics, military dillitantes study strategy, but military professionals study logistics."

    Erdogan has now deployed his combat forces deep inside Northern Syria, at the end of a supply line subject to spoiling attacks by Kurdish asymetrical forces. He has to drive his trucks miles inside of Syria to get to Afrin. With the Kurdish insurgents inside of Turkey, he can't even be sure his supply convoys won't be attacked INSIDE OF TURKEY.

    Oh yeah, Erdogan has made the fatal mistake of assuming he can take and hold ground inside of Syria using airpower. Well, as Vietnam showed, and Stalingrad showed, you can't resupply an army using airplanes, nor can you take and hold ground using only airpower. The Kurds have been given, during their fight against ISIS, significant amounts of weapons, ammo and anti-armor missiles. Yep, I think Turkish supply convoys are going to get pecked to death, just like the Russian partisans did to the advancing Wehrmacht in 1941 and 1942.
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    I also think Assad junior is laughing his ass off since he now has free reign to consolidate his power over the Turkish allied forces in both Southern and Eastern Syria. Assad junior has made significant advances around Aleppo and around the Golan Heights while Erdogan has been stuck in Northern Syria. Assad junior will have effective control of all of Syria below the Northern part. Assad junior is also going to make a deal with the Kurds at the expense of Turkey. After all, the Kurds are going to need Assad's junior support to keep pressure on Turkey.

    I think the real winner in all of this will be Assad junior. The fact of the "chemical weapons claims," tells me the USA and NATO are starting to figure out Turkey just handed Assad junior Syria on a platter. If nothing else, the Kurds are going to realize they need some kind of deal with Assad junior to deal with Turkey. The Kurds were pushing for an independent Kurdish state in Northern Syria, but they are now moving in a kind of semi-federated state. Again, this is a huge victory for Assad junior, who avoids the US and NATO plan to partition Syria. Iran is also a big winner since the Kurds will also like them since they are now fighting Turkish proxies around Aleppo and further west towards the Russian bases.

    Yep, Erdogan isn't look too smart for invading Northern Syria. and when Erdogan goes after Manbji, well Assad junior will have the USA fighting his battle for him.
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    Iran draws a line in the sand.

    http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13961118000959

    Leader's Top Aide: Iran Not to Allow US to Create Kurdish State in Eastern Euphrates

    TEHRAN (FNA)- Iranian Supreme Leader's top aide for international affairs Ali Akbar Velayati underlined that his country will help the Syrian people and their allies foil Washington's plots to disintegrate Syria and create a Kurdish state on the Eastern bank of the Euphrates.

    "The Islamic Republic of Iran supports Syria's territorial integrity and doesn’t accept any aggression against the Syrian territories," Velayati told reporters in Tehran on Wednesday.

    "The Americans want to disintegrate the Syrian territories and have done the preliminary moves to create and recognize an independent country in Eastern Euphrates in the Kurdish-populated region but certainly this will not be materialized," he added.

    Velayati expressed confidence that Iran will help the Syrian people and their allies to prevent the US dreams come true, and said, "Certainly, we will defeat the Americans in this evil desire."

    In relevant remarks on Tuesday, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani warned that Washington is seeking to disintegrate Syria, adding that Tehran will firmly stand against the plot.

    "We oppose the presence in Syria by the Americans who have incorrect goals in the region and are thinking of disintegrating Syria," Rouhani told Iranian and foreign reporters in a press conference in Tehran.

    He also referred to Turkey's military operations in Northern Syria against the Kurds, and said, "We have good relations with Russia and Turkey but it is our principled position that deployment of a country's army in another country's territories should be carried out with the consent of the second country's people and government and therefore, we want this operation which doesn’t yield any results but killing people to stop."

    President Rouhani foresaw good future for relations among Tehran, Ankara and Moscow, adding that during recent phone talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, the latter has stressed the necessity for holding a summit with the participation of the three countries' presidents.
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    Russia temporarily closed Syrian airspace to Turkey to establish an electronic defence mechanism against the Manpads since the night of Feb 4, a Turkish newspaper alleges, citing security sources.

    According to the report, Turkish armed drones can still operate in Afrin

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