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    Quote Originally Posted by JoanD777 View Post
    The immigration rules used to be that people coming into the United States must have work skills and somebody to sponsor them. They were checked for various diseases, and denied entry if sick. To become a citizen, they had to live in the States for 5 years and learn English. Have these rules been changed by Congress? If so, when and why? If not, did some unelected bureaucrat just change the rules themselves so that there were no standards?
    Well yeah they were changed. Ted Kennedy had a lot to do with it.
    Anyway that was when all this started.
    We granted temporary status to just about anyone from any country that had an earthquake or internal problems.
    We opened up our doors to refugees that have absolutely nothing in common with our culture.
    We created an actual lottery that gave people from these shithole countries immigration visas to the US without regards to their qualifications.
    We destroyed our regular immigration system unlike other countries. Then we opened our doors to refugees from all over the world, like most other countries.

    The problem is two fold.
    First restore our regular immigration system to a merit based system dependent on needed skills. Get rid of the freaking lottery.
    Second, stop accepting and even encouraging refugees from all over the world.

    Even Canada, despite their willingness to accept refugees, enforces qualification for normal immigration.

    Try to go retire in Canada. For residency they want to know if you can speak, read and write both English and French. They also want to know your education level and any degrees you hold.
    Their weakness is that if you claim being a refugee, none of the above applies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardou View Post
    If '$#!+hole' Rings True, It May or May Not Be True
    By Jim Treacher January 12, 2018

    If you're reading this on the morning of January 12, 2018, you can turn on CNN or MSNBC right now and watch them freak out that President Trump may have said a bad word in a meeting.

    Josh Dawsey, Washington Post:

    President Trump grew frustrated with lawmakers Thursday in the Oval Office when they discussed protecting immigrants from Haiti, El Salvador and African countries as part of a bipartisan immigration deal, according to several people briefed on the meeting.

    “Why are we having all these people from $#!+hole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to countries mentioned by the lawmakers.

    I've masked the profanity in this paraphrased quote, because I'm still new at PJM and I'm not sure if we can use that word here. Let's just say it's a rude slang term for excrement. Sorry if that's offensive.

    If Trump said that, it certainly isn't very nice. There are lots of good people in those countries, and so on and so forth. Harrumph, harrumph, etc.

    But do we know for a fact that he said it? Take a closer look at Dawsey's construction there. He got this from "several people briefed on the meeting." Oh, okay. So these people, whose names we do not know, were told that Trump said this bad word by somebody who was actually in the room at the time. We're getting it third-hand.

    So, who are these unnamed people? Any hints? MSNBC's Kyle Griffin gives us one.

    [WARNING: Bad word!]

    So it's been confirmed by... a Democrat. Who wasn't even in the room.

    Hey, what more proof do you need?


    I can believe Trump said what they're claiming he said. It's not at all implausible. But I've also noticed that the standard of proof gets a lot looser when a Republican is sworn in as president.

    People are going to believe what they want to believe. Back in 2004, the NY Times coined the perfect term for this mindset: "Fake But Accurate." That's how they described the early '70s Texas Air National Guard memos about George W. Bush. Those memos turned out to be fake, but it didn't matter because they confirmed the NYT's biases. This attitude didn't save Dan Rather's career, but I suppose it was a comfort to them. They convinced themselves they still got the story right, regardless of the facts or the lack thereof.

    And now, Fire and Fury author Michael Wolff has given us an indelible new phrase for this sort of "thinking":

    More at link: https://pjmedia.com/trending/hole-ri...-may-not-true/
    Wait!
    So Dick wasn't even in the room????
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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    Just logged onto my FB, peeps are in an uproar over the moral indecency of Trumps comment.

    Apparently they forgot about Billy Bob and his cigar fetish.
    I just deleted my Facebook and TWITTER accounts...I'm sick of dumbed down America.
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    Just reading #BREAKING at EU news #Shithole trying to sell the racist label again however the comments from most readers over 85% agree with @POTUS as pure true lol
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    Originally Posted by Hfcomms
    Absolutely! And they are all socialist or worse aren't they? [referring here to 'shit-hole' countries]


    Farmer John:
    Relatively speaking, nobody moves here from those socialist countries because they have higher standards of living than do we here in the US. Must have state-paid or mostly state-paid healthcare and education. Tax rates are higher but considered worth it. Lower wealth inequality helps keep crime rated low, saving money on incarceration costs. Happy people don't shoot each other as often.

    Those are a few reasons off the top of my head. Perhaps you could think of a few more.

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    Hf, Farmer John took your socialist comment and turned it to refer to many of the European countries like Denmark, Sweden, France, Germany and the UK.
    He must not realize that most of those countries are busy destroying themselves even faster than we are by importing the dreggs of the world.

    Farmer John, I've been to Haiti, Mexico, Honduras, Venezuela, Somalia, Ethiopia, Egypt, and most of the middle east. They ARE shitholes. They are shitholes compared to the US, Canada and much of Europe, but that is changing fast. It's changing mostly because the dreggs of those countries are flooding first world countries and doing their damnedest to turn them and us into version of the shitholes they just left.

    This recent influx is in no way the same as the waves of immigrants who came to this country a hundred years ago.
    To allow this to continue is to commit suicide.
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    The first step in recovery is admitting you have a problem. These countries need to own the tag "shithole" and start fixing the problems.

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    Only an absolute fool would call this beautiful Haitian lake a sh*thole. #ShitHoleCountries


    Yeah, Hitlery tweeted some insane garbage about Trump saying shithole today; I didn't bother posting it.

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    It's funny,

    You Liberals never cared about this Sh*thole when Hillary Clinton Stole Billions from it with her Foundation... Now why all of the Interest? Will you also pursue Justice for the money the Clinton's stole from Haiti? Or are you all just on Social Media to yell Racist
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF&P View Post
    I just deleted my Facebook and TWITTER accounts...I'm sick of dumbed down America.

    They censor anything you really want to say anyway.
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    So, he DIDN'T say it? And now it's a big nothing burger about nothing..
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    A cruise excursion I took while in Haiti several years ago delivered me to a beautiful forested beach location. I found out while there this beach and area was gated and fenced off like a prison.

    Only persons allowed besides tourist were about 15 trinket sellers and wait staff.

    Labadee if I remember the beach name correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunny225 View Post
    So, he DIDN'T say it? And now it's a big nothing burger about nothing..
    I know. Now the demons are trotting out some old hooker called Stormy Daniels. They claim that the President paid her to keep quiet on her fling with him back in 2006.

    They will not stop!
    "Why not stay awake now? Who wants to sleep now with so much happening, so much to see? Life used to be dull you see...and you don't have to sleep alone, you don't even have to sleep at all; and so, all you have to do is show the stick to the dog now and then and say, 'Thank God for nothing.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by minkykat View Post
    I know. Now the demons are trotting out some old hooker called Stormy Daniels. They claim that the President paid her to keep quiet on her fling with him back in 2006.

    They will not stop!
    I could care less who Trump has sex with or that he says shithole rather than pile of stinking feces.
    I just want him to keep doing the things he promised and the things that are good for our country.

    Hell, Johnson talked a lot worse, but he didn't have to contend with traitorous asshole media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    Well yeah they were changed. Ted Kennedy had a lot to do with it.
    Anyway that was when all this started.
    We granted temporary status to just about anyone from any country that had an earthquake or internal problems.
    We opened up our doors to refugees that have absolutely nothing in common with our culture.
    We created an actual lottery that gave people from these shithole countries immigration visas to the US without regards to their qualifications.
    We destroyed our regular immigration system unlike other countries. Then we opened our doors to refugees from all over the world, like most other countries.

    The problem is two fold.
    First restore our regular immigration system to a merit based system dependent on needed skills. Get rid of the freaking lottery.
    Second, stop accepting and even encouraging refugees from all over the world.

    Even Canada, despite their willingness to accept refugees, enforces qualification for normal immigration.

    Try to go retire in Canada. For residency they want to know if you can speak, read and write both English and French. They also want to know your education level and any degrees you hold.
    Their weakness is that if you claim being a refugee, none of the above applies.
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    I could care less who Trump has sex with or that he says shithole rather than pile of stinking feces.
    I just want him to keep doing the things he promised and the things that are good for our country.

    Hell, Johnson talked a lot worse, but he didn't have to contend with traitorous asshole media.
    I concur with both of the above posts.

    I met an Italian guy last summer who was well educated, well employed and had no crime history.

    He said he tried for years to gain American citizenship to no avail. He was given every blockade you could imagine and told he had to prove he could come up with a million dollars of personal wealth.

    WTH?

    He said he gave up and stayed "Italian" until he met an American girl... they got married and he became a citizen.

    He makes big bucks in his employment... he travels all over the world in his work... he speaks four languages of which I am aware and is learning Mandarin/Cantonese (not sure) to assist in his work there. He owns a fine house and pays income taxes out the ass....

    ....and they let these freeloading bastards in by the hundreds of thousands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vestige View Post
    I concur with both of the above posts.

    I met an Italian guy last summer who was well educated, well employed and had no crime history.

    He said he tried for years to gain American citizenship to no avail. He was given every blockade you could imagine and told he had to prove he could come up with a million dollars of personal wealth.

    WTH?

    He said he gave up and stayed "Italian" until he met an American girl... they got married and he became a citizen.

    He makes big bucks in his employment... he travels all over the world in his work... he speaks four languages of which I am aware and is learning Mandarin/Cantonese (not sure) to assist in his work there. He owns a fine house and pays income taxes out the ass....

    ....and they let these freeloading bastards in by the hundreds of thousands.
    They are STILL doing this! It needs to stop today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunny225 View Post
    They are STILL doing this! It needs to stop today.
    I agree.


    BTW...... FWIW the Italian guy is "white" and Catholic.

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    All the Africans keeping it real with the #ShitHoleCountiries while All the african Americans are in a full blown panic



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    Go home Hillary, you’re DRUNK: @HillaryClinton trashes @realDonaldTrump on #Haiti, gets RIPPED by Conservatives #ShitHoleCountiries
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    Quote Originally Posted by minkykat View Post
    I know. Now the demons are trotting out some old hooker called Stormy Daniels. They claim that the President paid her to keep quiet on her fling with him back in 2006.

    They will not stop!
    I just saw that crazy story somewhere. They think they are gaining some ground on Trump today, so they are throwing everything they can find against him while the blood is fresh. Are they ever wrong. I think his base is loving watching the media having a melt down.
    Last edited by Lavender; 01-12-2018 at 05:47 PM.

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    YES !!!


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    List of Trumps directly racist public comments in one handy list. From @cnn #ShitHoleCountiries @realDonaldTrump @IvankaTrump @MELANIATRUMP #BreakingNews
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzkitty View Post
    YES !!!


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    List of Trumps directly racist public comments in one handy list. From @cnn #ShitHoleCountiries @realDonaldTrump @IvankaTrump @MELANIATRUMP #BreakingNews
    I couldn't agree more. I don't think he said those two NYT quotes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    Originally Posted by Hfcomms
    Absolutely! And they are all socialist or worse aren't they? [referring here to 'shit-hole' countries]


    Farmer John:
    Relatively speaking, nobody moves here from those socialist countries because they have higher standards of living than do we here in the US. Must have state-paid or mostly state-paid healthcare and education. Tax rates are higher but considered worth it. Lower wealth inequality helps keep crime rated low, saving money on incarceration costs. Happy people don't shoot each other as often.

    Those are a few reasons off the top of my head. Perhaps you could think of a few more.

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    Hf, Farmer John took your socialist comment and turned it to refer to many of the European countries like Denmark, Sweden, France, Germany and the UK.
    He must not realize that most of those countries are busy destroying themselves even faster than we are by importing the dreggs of the world.

    The recent influx is in no way the same as the waves of immigrants who came to this country a hundred years ago.
    To allow this to continue is to commit suicide.
    For example... the shining socialist paradise of France:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...d-trump-visit/

    Scroll down to about the 5th picture..

    I can't wait until OUR cities look like this, because obviously we're missing out on the benefits of diversity. The Capitol Mall in D.C. would be so improved! <gag>

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    FJ and his DNC handlers want this country overrun.

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    Obama called Libya a "Shitshow"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavender View Post
    Obama called Libya a "Shitshow"

    Gotta link or video for this? If so please post it here so I can torture the liberals with it on my FB page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vestige View Post
    I agree.


    BTW...... FWIW the Italian guy is "white" and Catholic.
    Well hell, that's your problem right there.
    If he was brown and moslem he'd have come right in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    Gotta link or video for this? If so please post it here so I can torture the liberals with it on my FB page.
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    Following President Trump’s Thursday comments, it’s worth noting that former President Obama called the African country of Libya a “shit show” just two years ago.

    The comments were recorded in an interview with The Atlantic. The wide-ranging interview was based on Obama’s foreign policy over his eight years in office. During one portion of the interview, Obama said described Libya as a “mess” to the interviewer but behind closed doors called the country a “shit show.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtualco View Post
    A cruise excursion I took while in Haiti several years ago delivered me to a beautiful forested beach location. I found out while there this beach and area was gated and fenced off like a prison.

    Only persons allowed besides tourist were about 15 trinket sellers and wait staff.

    Labadee if I remember the beach name correctly.
    Yes, I've been there before too. Labadee I think is the island that is leased by Royal Caribbean cruise lines. I just checked Labadee wiki and it is leased by RCL:

    Labadee
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    Labadie
    Labadee
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    Labadee, Haiti Aug 2002.JPG
    Labadie is located in Haiti
    Labadie
    Labadie
    The nation of Haiti, showing Labadie
    Coordinates: 19°47′11″N 72°14′44″WCoordinates: 19°47′11″N 72°14′44″W
    Country Haiti
    Department Nord
    Arrondissement Cap-Haïtien

    Labadee (French: Labadie) is a port located on the northern coast of Haiti within the arrondissement of Cap-Haïtien in the Nord department. It is a private resort leased to Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. until 2050.[1] Royal Caribbean has contributed the largest proportion of tourist revenue to Haiti since 1986, employing 300 locals, allowing another 200 to sell their wares on the premises for a fee[2] and paying the Haitian government $12 USD per tourist.[3]

    The resort is completely tourist-oriented, and is guarded by a private security force. The site is fenced off from the surrounding area, and passengers are not allowed to leave the property. Food available to tourists is brought from the cruise ships. A controlled group of Haitian merchants are given sole rights to sell their merchandise and establish their businesses in the resort. Although sometimes described as an island in advertisements, it is actually a peninsula contiguous with the island of Hispaniola. The cruise ship moors to the pier at Labadee capable of servicing the Oasis class ships, which was completed in late 2009.[4]

    Attractions include a Haitian flea market, beaches, watersports, a water-oriented playground, an alpine coaster, and the largest zip-line over water.[5]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labadee

    Tourists are not allowed to see the filth and the Haitian government sees to it that they don't. I'm sure if those on the cruise ship saw what's in the picture Mz Kitty posted, that would be the end of RCL and cruisers. I saw it and I never went back on a cruise ship to that area. One has to see it to believe it!

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    Whether President Trump called African countries sh;tholes or not-God bless him! We have a president that's a man who isn't afraid to speak his mind. If he didn't say it, ok. If he DID say it-then YIPEE !!! Good job Mr. President. Your 2020 reelection has just been locked in. We deplorables love you-dearly, not queerly......

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    Seriously Haiti is the place to go if eating clay mud for it's mineral content is your thing.

    Look into the Haitian revolution and what they did to all the white people on the island.
    Dismembering them, crucifying them, boiling them in cane syrup, raping the women and then offering them the choice to either be executed or marry a non white.

    What happened in Haiti is one of the reason many poor southerners feared what would happen if all the slaves were freed. Even though many never owned slaves they remembered what happened to the white men women and children in Haiti during the slave rebellion. Even those who had nothing to do with slavery were killed.
    The Haitian leader called for the new constitution to be written on parchment made from a white persons skin, with an inkwell of a white persons skull, written in a white person's blood, with a knife point.

    That is a fundamental difference between black culture and our culture.
    We let the surrendering British Army leave. The Haitians killed every white person they could find in the most brutal manner they could think of, even those who had nothing to do with their situation.
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    Trumpism strikes again!

    One of things i like most about our POTUS is he has an uncanny ability to say out loud what everybody is thinking. I have been watching the Marxists foam at the mouth over his S$%%% comment, which Trump claims he never actually said, so I believe him on that. I have to say the last four days with Trump have been like dropping one dozen tabs of LSD and then trying to drive a cement truck!

    Trump's endless ability to reduce the leftists to ranting and raving lunatics is one of his most appealing traits for me.
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    Everyone knows he is right, that is why they are trying to get out of those countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    Haitian Yacht Club


    Seriously Haiti is the place to go if eating clay mud for it's mineral content is your thing.

    Look into the Haitian revolution and what they did to all the white people on the island.
    Dismembering them, crucifying them, boiling them in cane syrup, raping the women and then offering them the choice to either be executed or marry a non white.

    What happened in Haiti is one of the reason many poor southerners feared what would happen if all the slaves were freed. Even though many never owned slaves they remembered what happened to the white men women and children in Haiti during the slave rebellion. Even those who had nothing to do with slavery were killed.
    The Haitian leader called for the new constitution to be written on parchment made from a white persons skin, with an inkwell of a white persons skull, written in a white person's blood, with a knife point.

    That is a fundamental difference between black culture and our culture.
    We let the surrendering British Army leave. The Haitians killed every white person they could find in the most brutal manner they could think of, even those who had nothing to do with their situation.
    Sort of like South Africa? Rhodesia? ...?
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    The so called resort on Haiti is a sealed off, tourist experience zone and has no relation to modern Haiti. It is a good thing in the sense it is likely the only spot on Haiti where the environment hasn't been destroyed. AT one point, in the 1600's or so Haiti was one of the richest places on Planet Earth from the sugar plantations. The slaves revolted, took over and Haiti has been going downhill ever since.

    The only other good thing about the tourist resort is it does actually hire some locals and compared to the rest of Haiti's workers they get a pretty sweet deal.

    The corruption and violence under the previous administration was completely off the scale of rational behavior. Haiti's fundamental problem is they have over 8 million people stuffed onto half of a very small island. The deforesting of the island means the original soil used to grow the sugar that resulted in the vast wealth has washed into the sea.

    The history of the area really is brutal. The Spanish came in, gave all the Indians diseases that killed them all off within 40 years of 1492, and then the settlers came in, French in the case of Haiti, who imported slaves, raped and pillaged the land, stripped it bare and left nothing for the blacks when they finally took over.

    You can also make the argument, spiritually speaking, that Haiti is a very evil place between Zombies, the occult practices and the violence and brutality.
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6923976.html
    Barack Obama says David Cameron allowed Libya to become a 's*** show'
    Unprecedented attack by serving US President claims UK was 'distracted'

    Tim Walker, Nigel Morris @timwalker Thursday 10 March 2016 21:30 GMT628 comments





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    Barack Obama has sharply criticised David Cameron for the UK’s role in allowing Libya to become a “shit show” after the fall of the dictator Muammar Gaddafi, in an unprecedented attack on a British leader by a serving US President.

    Mr Obama said that following a successful military intervention to aid rebels during the 2011 Arab Spring revolt, Libya was left to spiral out of control – due largely to the inaction of America’s European allies.

    In a candid US magazine interview, Mr Obama said: “When I go back and I ask myself what went wrong… there’s room for criticism, because I had more faith in the Europeans, given Libya’s proximity, being invested in the follow-up.”


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    'Distracted' Cameron helped turn Libya into a mess, Barack Obama says
    Singling out the British Prime Minister, he suggested that Mr Cameron had taken his eye off Libya after being “distracted by a range of other things”.

    Mr Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy, then the French President, pushed hard for the bombing raids on Colonel Gaddafi’s forces that led to his fall, but since 2011 Libya has sunk further into violence and civil war, and latterly has become a focal point for Isis in North Africa.

    Mr Obama went on: “We actually executed this plan as well as I could have expected: We got a UN mandate, we built a coalition, it cost us $1bn – which, when it comes to military operations, is very cheap. We averted large-scale civilian casualties, we prevented what almost surely would have been a prolonged and bloody civil conflict. And despite all that, Libya is a mess.”

    Referring to that mess in private, Mr Obama reportedly uses the more colourful term, “shit show”.

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    A Libyan fireman stands in front of an oil storage tank at an oil facility in northern Libya's Ras Lanouf region in February, after it was set ablaze following attacks launched by Isis jihadists (AP)
    The comments will be a severe embarrassment to Mr Cameron, who has often been forced to defend British involvement in Libya on the grounds that Western intervention helped to avert a bloodbath. They will also place strain on the transatlantic alliance as coalition forces target Isis positions in Syria and Iraq.

    Mr Cameron’s spokeswoman said he had frequently made clear that he still believed military action in Libya was “absolutely the right thing to do” and stressed that the Government had put support for the country on the agenda when the UK hosted a meeting of G8 leaders in 2013.
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    First restore our regular immigration system to a merit based system dependent on needed skills. Get rid of the freaking lottery.
    To expand upon this particular suggestion - H1-B and other work visa games have GOT to come to a STOP.

    While there are some very talented folks from far-away places who have desirable skills, THAT should not preclude the U.S.A. from spending the time and effort to correctly develop their OWN citizenry's skill-sets with world-class educational systems and mentorships, and a marketing campaign to raise awareness and value of home-grown talents.

    While it is generally less expensive to import and hire foreign workers via the work-visa method - in the long run, it is simply too costly to the American "way" and culture.


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    Definition of Shithole is subjective. It'd be interesting to see what everyone's opinion of what it is?
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    Apparently Dick hasn't bothered to read any fairly recent history, as Lyndon Johnson was one of the crudest, most foul mouthed men alive. As was another Dick... Nixon

    This fake outrageous getting really old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryK View Post
    I could care less who Trump has sex with or that he says shithole rather than pile of stinking feces.
    I just want him to keep doing the things he promised and the things that are good for our country.

    Hell, Johnson talked a lot worse, but he didn't have to contend with traitorous asshole media.
    And even more recently with Hillary, both as FLOTUS and a POTUS candidate. Her own staff has confirmed her foul mouth and habitual use of the "F" word and I remember reading somewhere that she referred to another woman by the "C" word. Remember the famous “If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing ass over here and grab those bags!”?
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    #FridayFeeling #FridayReads @AC360 @donlemon #BREAKING Thank u @POTUS in 1 word, u brought attention to the people suffering in Haiti and around the world that the media, hollywood and politicians forgot as soon as the lights and cameras left r country!



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    #Breaking:Is it #racist to describe 3rd World nations that viciously abuse & impoverish their own people as #shitholes?#Trump allegedly referred to Haiti,El Salvador & some African countries as “shitholes”.People missed Trump’s point,it wasn’t about racism
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    FLASHBACK: Obama called this African nation a “sh*t show”

    January 12, 2018

    by Stephen Dietrich, Associate Publisher

    President Donald Trump allegedly referred to some poor African nations as “sh*tholes” on Thursday — and in response, the mainstream media has whipped itself into a frenzy.

    “Unpresidential!” cable news hosts have cried. “Racist,” “bigoted,” “impeachable!” liberal journalists have screamed.

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    So, where was this hysterical outrage when former President Barack Obama referred to one third-world African nation as a “sh*t show”?

    Talking to The Atlantic in 2016, Obama talked about the degrading situation in Libya and blamed U.S. allies for the sad state of affairs.

    Obama called Libya a “mess” — and later explained that he specifically meant it had become a “sh*t show” that was too caught up in African tribalism for their own good.

    “Mess is the president’s diplomatic term; privately, he calls Libya a ‘shit show,’ in part because it’s subsequently become an ISIS haven — one that he has already targeted with air strikes,” Jeffrey Goldberg reported in the Apr. 2016 edition of Atlantic Magazine. “It became a shit show, Obama believes, for reasons that had less to do with American incompetence than with the passivity of America’s allies and with the obdurate power of tribalism.”

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    This wasn’t some obscure statement that we’ve cherry-picked, either.

    This was The Atlantic’s cover story for the month, and was widely covered in the British press and some American outlets because Obama placed the blame squarely at the feet of the United Kingdom’s former Prime Minister David Cameron. That very same month, The Horn News reported that Obama’s actions in Libya had led to the rebirth of the African slave trade.

    So… where was the outrage? Where was the angry accusations of racism because Obama had turned a blind eye to the enslavement of thousands of Africans? Where was the media’s fury that he’d dismissed a country where the African slave trade was flourishing as nothing but a “sh*t show” and that he blamed both American allies and African “tribalism” for the problem?

    I’ll give you a hint: There was no outrage. Zero. None.

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    The silence from the left on Obama’s comments was deafening — and the media’s uneven response is undeniable proof that they’ve lost all credibility.

    Imagine if Trump did the same? For just a moment, envision the response if Trump publicly blamed our allies and African tribalism for the rebirth of the black slave trade in a “sh*t show” of a country?

    There’d be riots in the streets!

    Democrats have stoked the flames of anger against Trump, too.

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    For example, Rep. Elijah Cummings tweeted —

    So lets be fair. How did Cummings react to Obama calling a third-world country a “sh*t show” on Twitter?

    He never once mentioned it.

    How convenient.

    — Stephen Dietrich is the Associate Publisher of The Horn News.

    https://thehornnews.com/flashback-ob...tion-sht-show/

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