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VIDEO FULL SPEECH: President Trump declares Jerusalem as capital of Israel (11 minutes)
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    And the dominos begin to fall.....

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    #BREAKING: Czech Republic joins U.S. in recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital
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    Also am sooooo proud of our President ... Finally! God Bless Pres. Donald Trump!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    Actually, it was after the war of independence in 1948, when all the Arab nations attacked Israel immediately after it was formed. Israel annexed West Jerusalem to its territory on December 5, 1948, and declared the city its capital a week later.

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    Am I right in remembering that it was still "divided", however--and what the Israelis captured in the 1967 6-Day War was the TEMPLE MOUNT, thus REUNIFYING Jerusalem under Israeli rule?

    I remember that when the armies of Israel reached the Temple Mount, Defense Minister Moshe Dayan declared, "We have returned to our holiest of holy places---never to part from it again!"


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    An honest, innocent question that had too much potential for trouble.

    My apologies to all.
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    Ben, what he is doing is providing an acceptance of Israel's determination that J'em IS the capitol of Israel....something Israel has maintained for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flavius Aetius View Post

    I love the "Who is like unto God?" near the middle, but WHAT is the "voiced-over" voice saying from the 3-minute mark on? "Have those of you "WHAT" the Christ?"

    Went to watch this on YouTube to hear it better---wow. What a page FULL of hate-filled, anti-Semitic statements.

    But then Jesus DID tell His (JEWISH) apostles---"If the world hated Me, they will also hate YOU."
    Be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled…Let no man deceive you by any means…..
    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    I beg everyone's pardon but is Trump relying on LEGAL and BIBLICAL guides or is he just making a grand pronouncement for public consumption?

    No offense! No slight! I have no problem with it and I hope it doesn't trigger a war.

    On the vague and dusty surface it would feel like Netanyahu declaring Scranton, PA as the capital of CONUS.
    No.........it would be more like if--for some reason---the rest of the world decided that WE (the United States) could NOT claim Washington DC as our capital any longer, because it once was the land of the Piscataway (or Conoy) Indians, also known as the Anacostians, and therefore the land should be given BACK to them. (BIG difference here is that the JEWS in Jerusalem PRE-DATE the Palestinians by several MILLENNIA.)

    Then those other nations REFUSE to RECOGNIZE Washington DC as our capital, and instead on their OWN initiative pick ANOTHER American city which THEY call our "capital"--say, Scranton, PA.
    But WE still say OUR real capital is Washington DC.

    What happened today would be better described, in your analogy, is that Netanyahu decided to HONOR US by RECOGNIZING that OUR capital is what WE say it is---and formally recognizes Washington DC as our capital.
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    they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved….for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie….
    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    I beg everyone's pardon but is Trump relying on LEGAL and BIBLICAL guides or is he just making a grand pronouncement for public consumption?

    No offense! No slight! I have no problem with it and I hope it doesn't trigger a war.

    On the vague and dusty surface it would feel like Netanyahu declaring Scranton, PA as the capital of CONUS.

    Why don’t you call the WH and request clarification? There is no way in the world we’d know. So why are you asking us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Why don’t you call the WH and request clarification? There is no way in the world we’d know. So why are you asking us?
    I foolishly thought it might be known.

    Not trying to start trouble. I will delete my post immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    I foolishly thought it might be known.

    Not trying to start trouble. I will delete my post immediately.

    Again, how would we know? The ink isn’t dry on the proclamation.

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    Look man, I’m not trying to bust your balls. But I do ask that people THINK. You asked a question that unless it had been answered in his video proclamation, no one but Trump would be able to answer. Did you watch Trump’s video? If so, did you hear your question answered?

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    Looks like there are some new sheriffs in town
    President Trump seized the moment, taking advantage of the new alignments in the Middle East.

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    I remember when they announced the end of World War Two. The grown-ups all went outside and cheered and cheered on the streets of Borough Park. I was almost five years old and I will never forget that moment.

    I remember when the United Nations voted to give the Jews our own state. By then, I was an eight-year old member of Hashomer Ha-Tzair. We listened to the vote on the radio and we all went a little crazy. I will never forget that moment either.

    And so now, after nearly seventy years of Israel’s being militarily attacked by Arab armies and by Arab terrorists and defamed by the world at large; now, after more than 40 years of the United Nations legalizing Jew hatred and passing one false resolution after the other against the Jewish state; now, after UNESCO’s every bizarre and brazen attempt to de-Judaize Jerusalem—I have again lived to share the moment when an American President has actually begun the process of moving the American Embassy to Jerusalem—to signal that this city is Israel’s one and only eternal capital.

    The Thought Police will spin this as Jewish arrogance recklessly provoking a 'justifiable' Arab wave of human homicide bombs, car ramming, and stabbing.

    Except now, there are also some new Sheriff’s in town: Saudi Arabia and India for starters, countries that are well aware of the mounting dangers of both Shiite and Sunni terrorism.

    Except now, the West finally perceives, however dimly, that Israel has long been on the front line of Islamic terrorism and imperialism—that Islam, not Israel, has been the colonialist power. Such sudden insight is entirely due to the increase in terrorist attacks against Western capital cities.

    Europe, and America under Clinton, Bush, and Obama, were indifferent to Israel’s fate and both continents have now inherited the same whirlwind of Jihad attacks.

    I have survived the fake language of “peace” which has been used to characterize the two-state Oslo delusion.

    I have survived all the petitions and boycotts launched by all those politically correct Jews who need to appease the very leaders who mean to annihilate us.

    I have survived to see the day when the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (!), of course, for its own reasons, nevertheless, stands with Israel.

    May Palestinian Arabs, long held hostage by their own fearsome tyrants, and may Palestinian Jews, (well, that’s how we once described), long held hostage by the entire world, begin the process of throwing off tyrants.

    Both heaven and earth may yet be witnessing another miracle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    FYI- Russia recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital in April. I don't recall any commotion back then..

    http://thehill.com/policy/internatio...sraeli-capital
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    Russia recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital
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    04/06/17 04:05 PM EDT


    Russia on Thursday publicly recognized West Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel.

    The announcement was made in a statement by Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs that addressed the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

    In the statement, Moscow reaffirmed its "support for the two-state solution" while acknowledging that East Jerusalem should be the capital of the future Palestinian state.

    "We reaffirm our commitment to the UN-approved principles for a Palestinian-Israeli settlement, which include the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state," the ministry said.

    "At the same time, we must state that in this context we view West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel."

    Moscow's announcement comes as the new U.S. administration is considering moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, thereby recognizing the city as Israel's capital.

    Israel declared Jerusalem its capital in 1950, but Russia is the first nation to recognize it as such, according to The Jerusalem Post.

    Long-standing U.S. policy has called for the status of Jerusalem to be resolved by the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

    According to the Jerusalem Post, Russia is currently not planning on moving its embassy to the city.

    In the statement, Russia maintained that a two-state solution is the best policy for the achieving peace in the region and pledged to focus on ensuring access to Jerusalem "for all believers."

    "Moscow reaffirms its support for the two-state solution as an optimal option that meets the national interests of the Palestinian and Israeli people, both of whom have friendly relations with Russia, and the interests of all other countries in the region and the international community as a whole," the ministry said.

    "Russia will continue to provide assistance to the achievement of Israeli-Palestinian agreements. We will focus on ensuring free access to Jerusalem’s holy places for all believers."
    Not even in the same ballpark as today's announcement which was *ALL* of Jerusalem is Israel's capital...

    Which is why there was no commotion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok View Post

    PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP’S PROCLAMATION ON JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
    My announcement today marks the beginning of a new approach to the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.” – President Donald J. Trump

    RECOGNIZING JERUSALEM: President Donald J. Trump is following through on his promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel and has instructed the State Department to begin to relocate the U.S. Embassy to Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

    - Today, December 6, 2017, President Trump recognized Jerusalem, the ancient capital of the Jewish people, as the capital of the State of Israel.

    - In taking this action, President Trump fulfilled a major campaign promise of his and many previous Presidential candidates.

    - The Trump Administration is fully coordinated in supporting this historic action by the President, and has engaged broadly with both our Congressional and international partners on this issue.

    - President Trump’s action enjoys broad, bipartisan support in Congress, including as expressed in the Jerusalem Recognition Act of 1995. This Act was reaffirmed by a unanimous vote of the Senate only six months ago.

    - President Trump has instructed the State Department to develop a plan to relocate the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

    - Departments and Agencies have implemented a robust security plan to ensure the safety of our citizens and assets in the region.

    STATUS OF JERUSALEM: President Trump recognizes that specific boundaries of sovereignty in Jerusalem is highly sensitive and subject to final status negotiations.

    - President Trump recognizes that the status of Jerusalem is a highly-sensitive issue, but he does not think the peace process is aided by ignoring the simple truth that Jerusalem is home to Israel’s legislature, supreme court, President, and Prime Minister.

    - President Trump recognizes that the specific boundaries of Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem are subject to final status negotiations between the parties.

    - President Trump reaffirms United States support for the status quo at the Temple Mount, also known as Haram al Sharif.

    COMMITTED TO THE PEACE PROCESS: President Trump is committed to achieving a lasting peace agreement between Israelis and Palestinians.

    - President Trump remains committed to achieving a lasting peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians, and he is optimistic that peace can be achieved.

    - Delaying the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel has not helped achieve peace over the past two decades.

    - President Trump is prepared to support a two-state solution to the dispute between the Israelis and Palestinians, if agreed to by the parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post

    May Palestinian Arabs, long held hostage by their own fearsome tyrants, and may Palestinian Jews, (well, that’s how we once described), long held hostage by the entire world, begin the process of throwing off tyrants.

    Both heaven and earth may yet be witnessing another miracle.

    Moved to iboya's Celebrate Israel thread
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    Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


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    Leon Uris wrote a book called Exodus (it is a story about the rebirth of Israel as a nation, not the Biblical Book of The Bible)

    If one can find a copy of that book and read it I think that they will find it a find jumping off point to understand a lot of history that evolved after WWII.

    The antisemitism of the Brits and others, and the efforts to thwart it, and the Acknowledgement of Israel as a Nation on the Face of the earth again is the tip of that story iceberg.

    Almost each part will send students of history searcing for more depth. The parts about the Polish Ghetto and the Biblical references given to the Israeli military operations were just two areas I found intriguing.

    Hope ya'll can find and enjoy it.

    ETA went and found the kindle ebook link on it for ya'll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    I love the "Who is like unto God?" near the middle, but WHAT is the "voiced-over" voice saying from the 3-minute mark on? "Have those of you "WHAT" the Christ?"

    Went to watch this on YouTube to hear it better---wow. What a page FULL of hate-filled, anti-Semitic statements.

    But then Jesus DID tell His (JEWISH) apostles---"If the world hated Me, they will also hate YOU."
    I'll join in on the celebration

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    Quote Originally Posted by iboya View Post
    I'll join in on the celebration
    Look at this... Even a few Muslims are getting in on it!




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    This is a breaking news thread. Can we keep it that way please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    I foolishly thought it might be known.

    Not trying to start trouble. I will delete my post immediately.
    I don't know what deleting it will do since it's already been reprinted. But I too have a question. I would like to know if the liberal Jews who voted for Hillary are in favor of what Trump did? Trump's SIL is Jewish and a liberal.

    I beg everyone's pardon but is Trump relying on LEGAL and BIBLICAL guides or is he just making a grand pronouncement for public consumption?
    Trump stated why he did it in his speech. Since 1985 it was voted on to have Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Trump said that every Presidential candidate ran on the policy that if they were President they would enact it. Well, none of them held true to their word, but Trump did. I'm sure his legal team looked at everything legally and not Biblical. I didn't find your comment or question offensive, I think Trump stays true to his word. Trump has some balls that's all I can say. I love the man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosadi View Post
    Leon Uris wrote a book called Exodus (it is a story about the rebirth of Israel as a nation, not the Biblical Book of The Bible)

    If one can find a copy of that book and read it I think that they will find it a find jumping off point to understand a lot of history that evolved after WWII.

    The antisemitism of the Brits and others, and the efforts to thwart it, and the Acknowledgement of Israel as a Nation on the Face of the earth again is the tip of that story iceberg.

    Almost each part will send students of history searcing for more depth. The parts about the Polish Ghetto and the Biblical references given to the Israeli military operations were just two areas I found intriguing.

    Hope ya'll can find and enjoy it.

    ETA went and found the kindle ebook link on it for ya'll

    https://www.amazon.com/Exodus-Leon-U.../dp/B01N65HQI8
    Herman Wouk wrote two historical fiction books about Israel's first 40 years, The Hope & The Glory. Wouk is a master at weaving his fictional characters into real events. He also has a believable way of bringing historical figures to life in his stories. Like Exodus, Wouk's books will compel you to delve deeper into Israel's history.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hope-Herman-W...he+hope+Herman

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    Dosadi, if you were intrigued by the parts of Exodus that were about the Warsaw Ghetto I suggest you read Mila 18, also by Leon Uris. An excellent fictional account of life in the Warsaw Ghetto from its inception through the uprising. The fictional characters are based on historical figures. It is an incredible story.

    https://www.amazon.com/Mila-18-Leon-...a+18+leon+uris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    This is a breaking news thread. Can we keep it that way please?
    Oops! I'm sorry. I didn't see this before I posted above. I can delete my post if you want me to.

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    I just don’t want it to spinoff into the TB void like so many threads seem to do...

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    Which America, The Trump Administration or Wall Street?....
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    Anyone else think that this is really going to stir the hornets nest in the middle east? As in, Israel will be 70 years old (a generation) and its time to get the prophetic party started.
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    There’s a Jerusalem prophecy thread in Rel Sig right now. Feel free to join in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by changed View Post
    Anyone else think that this is really going to stir the hornets nest in the middle east?
    No doubt about it... Check today's post in the Horsemen thread...
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    How I hate those threads. Every time I work up enough courage to read one, I have the shakes by the time I’m done. But yer not Debbie Downer or anything.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    How I hate those threads. Every time I work up enough courage to read one, I have the shakes by the time I’m done. But yer not Debbie Downer or anything.....

    Oh... There is nothing but rainbows and puppy dogs in this week's thread... You should go take a gander...

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    Yooooouuuuuuu betcha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    Just goes to show everyone - Trump is his own man!!

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    rag and dennis you guys are too funny.
    after reading all this and some other threads, im thinking of moving down to the basement now for a spell, ya know--- just in case. i reckon the muslims will start blowing people and things up to express their displeasure in 3....2....1....
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    More TRUMP winning....May God Bless and Protect our President and Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzy View Post
    i reckon the muslims will start blowing people...
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    Terrible move by Trump.

    One step closer to WWIII, yay! Congrats!

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