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    FULL SPEECH: President Trump declares Jerusalem as capital of Israel (11 minutes)

    A historic day... This needs it's own thread


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    Another case of previous administrations kicking the can down the road for somebody else to deal with. Often despite campaign promises they apparently never intended on honoring.

    President Trump is not making things easy on himself. He is however doing what needs to get done, when it needs to get done and done for the benefit of the American people.
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    SO PROUD OF OUR PRESIDENT!! I am all teared up!!

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    PHOTOS: Walls of Jerusalem "Old City" light up with Israeli & American flags ahead of Trump speech to declare Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

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    There is ONE MAN who is losing his mind today over this and too bad I'm not a fly on his forehead. Barack Obama!!!
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    Talk about inclusive our POTUS is.... This Merry Christmas AND Happy Hanukkah all done in one day!!!!!
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    I wonder if he’ll now travel to the ME after Pence to “correct” Trump...?


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    Vice President Mike Pence

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    Wasn't able to watch it and was hoping someone would snag it. Thanks!! People can say what they will about Trump but at least he is trying to keep some of the promises he made during his campaign unlike others that as soon as they assumed office forget everything they had said during the election season.
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    I don't get it. How can an American President declare anything in regards to a another countries capital? Isn't that up to Israel?
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    The liberals are going nuts on all the feeds! Love it! God Bless Israel! God Bless America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Lady View Post
    I don't get it. How can an American President declare anything in regards to a another countries capital? Isn't that up to Israel?
    Any President can declare where our Embassy in that country is located and it's normally located in that country's capitol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Lady View Post
    I don't get it. How can an American President declare anything in regards to a another countries capital? Isn't that up to Israel?
    Well, that's just it. The world essentially, has been telling Israel for decades, that 'No, you can't have Jerusalem as your capitol" Trump just pointed out that, ah yes they can it's *their& nation, not yours, so they can declare whatever city they want as the capital. and no one can do a darn thing about it, legally speaking.

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    So I guess Al “Bigga Nigga” Green will have even more reason to force a doomed impeachment vote...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Lady View Post
    I don't get it. How can an American President declare anything in regards to a another countries capital? Isn't that up to Israel?
    GOOD question.

    This is about International Recognition of Israeli decisions. Remember that Jerusalem has only been part of Israel since (1967 IIRC), and that was due to Israel's being attacked and responding, and thus capturing the city.
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    Fair use

    December 6, 2017
    President Trump's Jerusalem embassy move is part of a much bigger plan
    By Thomas Lifson

    Once again, President Trump proves that he is no ordinary politician and exposes the nature of the D.C. swamp. Every recent president has promised to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem as a candidate, only to fail to deliver. But not President Trump! He alone has the guts and the honesty to start to deliver.

    This point matters not only to evangelical and Jewish supporters of Israel, but to every American sick and tired of Washington, D.C. politics as usual. It tells us in the most direct possible way that BS walks, and Donald Trump delivers.

    Trump's speech scheduled today is expected to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, and begin the process of moving the embassy – something that is not simple or quick to accomplish. A site has to be obtained, security issues carefully examined, and a new building designed and built (Trump's area of deep expertise), and large numbers of diplomats and local staff must be prepared to handle the extended protests that will happen and move their own work location.

    NeverTrump skeptics warn that today's words are just words, and actions are needed that may or may not happen. After all, Trump, like all his predecessors since 1995, is requesting a waiver from the law passed that year, the Jerusalem Embassy Act, requiring an embassy move to Jerusalem. Fair enough. Time will tell, and if Trump doesn't deliver, his image as a truth-teller, not a mealy-mouthed politician, will suffer even greater damage than his predecessors' images.

    But I am reasonably confident that he will deliver. Unlike his predecessors, Trump is breaking away from the fruitless "peace process" negotiations that have led the Palestinians in Abba Eban's famous phrase to "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity." Many careers and institutions have been dedicated to the "peace process" despite its utter futility in the face of the Palestinians' goal of destroying Israel. The cluelessness is on vivid display in this article from the Brookings Institution, whining, "Why is Trump undoing decades of US policy on Jerusalem?"

    As far as I am concerned, the Middle East "peace process" is to "peace" as "processed cheese" is to "cheese": a fake, cheap imitation that only faintly resembles the real thing. Both melt easily, but that is a positive factor only for the ersatz fromage.

    Yes, the Saudis will verbally protest, and there will be street demonstrations there and all over the Middle East (and no doubt elsewhere in the Muslim world, from Indonesia to Londonistan and Dearbornistan). So what? Aside from the need to protect embassies and Americans overseas, it will amount to nothing but typical "Arab Street" calisthenics. The Saudis, who have been the chief financiers of the Palestinians and jihad in general, have turned the corner. President Trump and Sec State Tillerson already have executed a masterstroke in using the fracking revolution to achieve what amounts to a coup (see this and this) in Riyadh, with Crown Prince (and de facto King) Mohammed bin Sultan committed to ending support for violent jihad and modernizing his kingdom away from a seventh-century social order.

    Caroline Glick, one of the most knowledgeable and passionate advocates for Israel, just examined the new Saudi Peace Plan, and lo and behold:

    The Palestinians and their European supporters are up in arms about the content of Mohammed's plan. It reportedly proposes the establishment of limited Palestinian sovereignty over small portions of Judea and Samaria. The Gaza Strip, over which the Palestinians have had full sovereignty since Israel pulled its military forces and civilians out in 2005, would be expanded into the northern Sinai, thus providing economic and territorial viability to the envisioned Palestinian state. While the Palestinians would not receive sovereignty over Jerusalem, they would be able to establish their capital in the Jerusalem suburb of Abu Dis.
    So the kabuki will unfold in "the Arab street," but the intransigent Palestinians for the first time are discovering that intransigence makes things worse for them. They will pay a price now. The unspoken message is that if they don't come to the table with a new attitude, things will get even worse. After all, their budget depends on aid, and the Saudis and Gulf allies will be writing smaller checks – and eventually no checks. Starvation tends to change minds on what is acceptable. Right now, a capital in the 'burbs will be denounced as "unacceptable," but after the embassy is under construction in Jerusalem, and the Saudis start cutting some zeroes off those checks to the P.A., something (a suburban capital) will look a lot better than nothing (no money to pay P.A. staff).

    President Trump has three more years in this term in which to start to deliver. The whole world will be watching. My guess is that he already has some plans on building a landmark embassy in Jerusalem – under budget and ahead of schedule. That is his distinctive competence, after all.

    The current U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv has all the architectural distinction of a suburban office park.



    I am betting that Jerusalem will get a suitably dignified and distinctive structure to house our representatives to the Jewish homeland.

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    Tel Aviv city hall lights up in red, white and blue in solidarity with US

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    PM Netanyahu Thanks Pres Trump for Jerusalem Recognition.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty Lady View Post
    I don't get it. How can an American President declare anything in regards to a another countries capital? Isn't that up to Israel?
    Israel ALWAYS declared Jerusalem as their capitol. It's ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES that refused to acknowledge this due to the Palestinians wanting that territory as their own. Believers of God's Word know that Jerusalem was deeded to the Israelites by God and that Jerusalem is mentioned over 800 times in the Old Testament. So Jerusalem is very important to God!

    Hopefully, other countries who love freedom, like Poland will follow Trump's lead by saying their government as well, recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capitol.
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    TRANSCRIPT - President Trump Historic Speech on Jerusalem

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    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. When I came into office, I promised to look at the worlds challenges with open eyes and very fresh thinking. We cannot solve our problems by making the same failed assumptions and repeating the same failed strategies of the past. Old challenges demand new approaches.

    My announcement today marks the beginning of a new approach to conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.

    In 1995, Congress adopted the Jerusalem Embassy Act, urging the federal government to relocate the American embassy to Jerusalem and to recognize that that city — and so importantly — is Israels capital. This act passed Congress by an overwhelming bipartisan majority and was reaffirmed by a unanimous vote of the Senate only six months ago.

    Yet, for over 20 years, every previous American president has exercised the laws waiver, refusing to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem or to recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital city.


    Presidents issued these waivers under the belief that delaying the recognition of Jerusalem would advance the cause of peace. Some say they lacked courage, but they made their best judgments based on facts as they understood them at the time. Nevertheless, the record is in. After more than two decades of waivers, we are no closer to a lasting peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. It would be folly to assume that repeating the exact same formula would now produce a different or better result.

    Therefore, I have determined that it is time to officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

    While previous presidents have made this a major campaign promise, they failed to deliver. Today, I am delivering.

    I’ve judged this course of action to be in the best interests of the United States of America and the pursuit of peace between Israel and the Palestinians. This is a long-overdue step to advance the peace process and to work towards a lasting agreement.

    Israel is a sovereign nation with the right like every other sovereign nation to determine its own capital. Acknowledging this as a fact is a necessary condition for achieving peace.

    It was 70 years ago that the United States, under President Truman, recognized the State of Israel. Ever since then, Israel has made its capital in the city of Jerusalem — the capital the Jewish people established in ancient times. Today, Jerusalem is the seat of the modern Israeli government. It is the home of the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, as well as the Israeli Supreme Court. It is the location of the official residence of the Prime Minister and the President. It is the headquarters of many government ministries.

    For decades, visiting American presidents, secretaries of state, and military leaders have met their Israeli counterparts in Jerusalem, as I did on my trip to Israel earlier this year.

    Jerusalem is not just the heart of three great religions, but it is now also the heart of one of the most successful democracies in the world. Over the past seven decades, the Israeli people have built a country where Jews, Muslims, and Christians, and people of all faiths are free to live and worship according to their conscience and according to their beliefs.

    Jerusalem is today, and must remain, a place where Jews pray at the Western Wall, where Christians walk the Stations of the Cross, and where Muslims worship at Al-Aqsa Mosque.

    However, through all of these years, presidents representing the United States have declined to officially recognize Jerusalem as Israels capital. In fact, we have declined to acknowledge any Israeli capital at all.

    But today, we finally acknowledge the obvious: that Jerusalem is Israels capital. This is nothing more, or less, than a recognition of reality. It is also the right thing to do. It’s something that has to be done.

    That is why, consistent with the Jerusalem Embassy Act, I am also directing the State Department to begin preparation to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. This will immediately begin the process of hiring architects, engineers, and planners, so that a new embassy, when completed, will be a magnificent tribute to peace.

    In making these announcements, I also want to make one point very clear: This decision is not intended, in any way, to reflect a departure from our strong commitment to facilitate a lasting peace agreement. We want an agreement that is a great deal for the Israelis and a great deal for the Palestinians. We are not taking a position of any final status issues, including the specific boundaries of the Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem, or the resolution of contested borders. Those questions are up to the parties involved.

    The United States remains deeply committed to helping facilitate a peace agreement that is acceptable to both sides. I intend to do everything in my power to help forge such an agreement. Without question, Jerusalem is one of the most sensitive issues in those talks. The United States would support a two-state solution if agreed to by both sides.

    In the meantime, I call on all parties to maintain the status quo at Jerusalem’s holy sites, including the Temple Mount, also known as Haram al-Sharif.

    Above all, our greatest hope is for peace, the universal yearning in every human soul. With todays action, I reaffirm my administrations longstanding commitment to a future of peace and security for the region.

    There will, of course, be disagreement and dissent regarding this announcement. But we are confident that ultimately, as we work through these disagreements, we will arrive at a peace and a place far greater in understanding and cooperation.

    This sacred city should call forth the best in humanity, lifting our sights to what it is possible; not pulling us back and down to the old fights that have become so totally predictable. Peace is never beyond the grasp of those willing to reach.

    So today, we call for calm, for moderation, and for the voices of tolerance to prevail over the purveyors of hate. Our children should inherit our love, not our conflicts.

    I repeat the message I delivered at the historic and extraordinary summit in Saudi Arabia earlier this year: The Middle East is a region rich with culture, spirit, and history. Its people are brilliant, proud, and diverse, vibrant and strong. But the incredible future awaiting this region is held at bay by bloodshed, ignorance, and terror.

    Vice President Pence will travel to the region in the coming days to reaffirm our commitment to work with partners throughout the Middle East to defeat radicalism that threatens the hopes and dreams of future generations.

    It is time for the many who desire peace to expel the extremists from their midst. It is time for all civilized nations, and people, to respond to disagreement with reasoned debate – not violence.

    And it is time for young and moderate voices all across the Middle East to claim for themselves a bright and beautiful future.

    So today, let us rededicate ourselves to a path of mutual understanding and respect. Let us rethink old assumptions and open our hearts and minds to possible and possibilities. And finally, I ask the leaders of the region — political and religious; Israeli and Palestinian; Jewish and Christian and Muslim — to join us in the noble quest for lasting peace.

    Thank you. God bless you. God bless Israel. God bless the Palestinians. And God bless the United States. Thank you very much. Thank you.

    (The proclamation is signed.)

    END 1:19 P.M. EST








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    Thank you President Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    GOOD question.

    This is about International Recognition of Israeli decisions. Remember that Jerusalem has only been part of Israel since (1967 IIRC), and that was due to Israel's being attacked and responding, and thus capturing the city.
    Actually, it was after the war of independence in 1948, when all the Arab nations attacked Israel immediately after it was formed. Israel annexed West Jerusalem to its territory on December 5, 1948, and declared the city its capital a week later.

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    Tell me again how America is Babylon!
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    FYI- Russia recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital in April. I don't recall any commotion back then..

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    Russia recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital
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    Russia on Thursday publicly recognized West Jerusalem as the capital city of Israel.

    The announcement was made in a statement by Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs that addressed the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

    In the statement, Moscow reaffirmed its "support for the two-state solution" while acknowledging that East Jerusalem should be the capital of the future Palestinian state.

    "We reaffirm our commitment to the UN-approved principles for a Palestinian-Israeli settlement, which include the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of the future Palestinian state," the ministry said.

    "At the same time, we must state that in this context we view West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel."

    Moscow's announcement comes as the new U.S. administration is considering moving the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, thereby recognizing the city as Israel's capital.

    Israel declared Jerusalem its capital in 1950, but Russia is the first nation to recognize it as such, according to The Jerusalem Post.

    Long-standing U.S. policy has called for the status of Jerusalem to be resolved by the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

    According to the Jerusalem Post, Russia is currently not planning on moving its embassy to the city.

    In the statement, Russia maintained that a two-state solution is the best policy for the achieving peace in the region and pledged to focus on ensuring access to Jerusalem "for all believers."

    "Moscow reaffirms its support for the two-state solution as an optimal option that meets the national interests of the Palestinian and Israeli people, both of whom have friendly relations with Russia, and the interests of all other countries in the region and the international community as a whole," the ministry said.

    "Russia will continue to provide assistance to the achievement of Israeli-Palestinian agreements. We will focus on ensuring free access to Jerusalem’s holy places for all believers."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliobas Disciple View Post
    FYI- Russia recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital in April. I don't recall any commotion back then...
    I didn't know, thank you for posting, that means my worries about WWIII about to break out just went down; only about half a notch but down a bit.

    But I'm still glad the wind isn't blowing from the South the way it does sometimes towards Ireland.
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    Thanks HD....

    I thought these two comments were illuminating:



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    I did not know Jerusalem was/is a common metaphorical name for any place deemed ‘heaven on earth’.

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    History of the name and place: Jerusalem

    There is no town as Biblical as Jerusalem, but it was neither built nor named by the Israelites. Remnants of a Canaanite town called Salem date back to the early bronze age, and the first Biblical mention of this place is in Genesis 14:18, where Abraham and Melchizedek meet.

    The name Jerusalem occurs first in Joshua 10:1 and the city of Jerusalem was conquered, sacked and apparently abandoned by Israel (Judges 1:8). Still, it remained occupied by Jebusites and it was originally located in the territory of not Judah but Benjamin (Judges 1:21). Four hundred years later David conquered Jerusalem from the Jebusites, annexed it and made it his capital (2 Samuel 5:6).

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    it remained occupied by Jebusites...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    I didn't know, thank you for posting, that means my worries about WWIII about to break out just went down; only about half a notch but down a bit.

    But I'm still glad the wind isn't blowing from the South the way it does sometimes towards Ireland.

    Mine did too after reading that. That's why I posted it. All of the previous wars in the middle east had Russia backing the Arab states. That's not likely to happen over this issue if they themselves recognized this months ago. A huge sigh of relief on my part, so I thought I'd share.

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    PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP’S PROCLAMATION ON JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL
    My announcement today marks the beginning of a new approach to the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians.” – President Donald J. Trump

    RECOGNIZING JERUSALEM: President Donald J. Trump is following through on his promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the State of Israel and has instructed the State Department to begin to relocate the U.S. Embassy to Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

    - Today, December 6, 2017, President Trump recognized Jerusalem, the ancient capital of the Jewish people, as the capital of the State of Israel.

    - In taking this action, President Trump fulfilled a major campaign promise of his and many previous Presidential candidates.

    - The Trump Administration is fully coordinated in supporting this historic action by the President, and has engaged broadly with both our Congressional and international partners on this issue.

    - President Trump’s action enjoys broad, bipartisan support in Congress, including as expressed in the Jerusalem Recognition Act of 1995. This Act was reaffirmed by a unanimous vote of the Senate only six months ago.

    - President Trump has instructed the State Department to develop a plan to relocate the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

    - Departments and Agencies have implemented a robust security plan to ensure the safety of our citizens and assets in the region.

    STATUS OF JERUSALEM: President Trump recognizes that specific boundaries of sovereignty in Jerusalem is highly sensitive and subject to final status negotiations.

    - President Trump recognizes that the status of Jerusalem is a highly-sensitive issue, but he does not think the peace process is aided by ignoring the simple truth that Jerusalem is home to Israel’s legislature, supreme court, President, and Prime Minister.

    - President Trump recognizes that the specific boundaries of Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem are subject to final status negotiations between the parties.

    - President Trump reaffirms United States support for the status quo at the Temple Mount, also known as Haram al Sharif.

    COMMITTED TO THE PEACE PROCESS: President Trump is committed to achieving a lasting peace agreement between Israelis and Palestinians.

    - President Trump remains committed to achieving a lasting peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians, and he is optimistic that peace can be achieved.

    - Delaying the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel has not helped achieve peace over the past two decades.

    - President Trump is prepared to support a two-state solution to the dispute between the Israelis and Palestinians, if agreed to by the parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    I didn't know, thank you for posting, that means my worries about WWIII about to break out just went down; only about half a notch but down a bit.

    But I'm still glad the wind isn't blowing from the South the way it does sometimes towards Ireland.
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    Melodi, remember that the current Soviets have a little tiny footprint essentially consisting of Syria. They're TRYING to be Playas but, well, it'd gonna take a while.
    Thank you for that information too; so much happening so fast and the modern Middle East is a place I know something about, but I can't always keep up with fast moving events.
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