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INSANITY Former Google and Uber engineer is developing an AI 'god'
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    Former Google and Uber engineer is developing an AI 'god'

    Former Google and Uber engineer is developing an AI 'god'
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    The concept of an AI ‘god’ may seem outlandish, but a former Google and Uber engineer is touting the idea of a high-tech 'deity' as a way to improve society.

    Think about how much we depend on Apple Siri and Amazon Alexa today. We ask the AI bot for directions, to check on the weather, and to dim the lights in our house. Few of us know the complex engineering required to make this happen, we just trust it will work.

    By 2029, computers will reach human levels of intelligence, according to one theory. In fact, Google already uses a bot called the Assistant that can answer just about any web-search related inquiry. Could what we trust and rely on so heavily on a daily basis evolve into a 'religion' or a cult? [What absolute bullsh*t. Looking up stuff on the Internet is NOT “intelligence.” It’s an algorithm - Dennis]

    STEPHEN HAWKING SAYS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE COULD 'DESTROY' HUMANITY

    A well-known engineer who worked at Google and Uber named Anthony Levandowski has founded a new AI-based religion called Way of the Future. The charter? To worship and understand “the Godhead” for the betterment of society.

    At least one expert suggested the idea of an AI godhead might be overblown, however.

    “The recent coverage of AI as a single, unified power is a predictable upshot of a self-aggrandizing Silicon Valley culture that believes it can summon a Godhead,” says Thomas Arnold, a Research Associate at Tufts University’s Human-Robot Interaction Laboratory.

    GOOGLE'S ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE COMPUTER 'NO LONGER CONSTRAINED BY LIMITS OF HUMAN KNOWLEDGE'

    According to Arnold, the idea of an AI religion is really more about the tech elite thinking they can summon a religion from “whole cloth” -- similar to how the industry thinks one single app can be transcendent in society or life-changing in some way. Instead, he argues that the cold and impractical nature of technology is not exactly a match made in Heaven.

    “The ideas of mourning, loss, tragedy, social justice, and larger responsibilities to a neighbor -- which the world religious tradition have gradually developed resources to accommodate, reflect upon, and offer rich re-framings thereof -- are largely dispensed with in the AI as religion evocations,” he says. God only knows if anyone will worship an AI that’s so sterile.

    An AI could write a bible for how to live and expect humans to become subservient. It’s one reason Elon Musk has decried the dangers of AI, saying superintelligence is more dangerous than North Korean nukes. Musk has slammed the concept of an AI ‘god’.

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    Nonetheless, AI is clearly extending its reach into society. A podcaster named Rose Eveleth helped create an algorithm that wrote an AI bible gathered from sacred writings. It’s a remarkable exercise, even though the result is mostly gibberish. Whether that really matters is open to debate, according to the experts.

    “An AI would provide the equivalent of a ‘Messiah’ -- having many orders of magnitude more processing elements than the brain, enabling it to gift us with solutions to the most daunting social, political, economic, and environmental challenges,” says Dr. Stephen Thaler, the President and CEO of Imagination Engines who is an AI and consciousness expert.

    Seminary grad and lawyer John Mitchell says humans have a tendency to “worship supreme understanding” -- and that applies to AI. “We [believe] there must be some higher power that causes lightning, sunsets, and crashing waves — or at least speaks to the bottom of our beings, rather than ignore them as ho-hum background,” he says, suggesting the same thing could happen with AI or that AI could help us understand religion better.

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    Of course, a superintelligent AI would likely not want to be worshipped, preferring to merely guide humanity in ways that we perceive as being (mostly) helpful.

    “I would expect the AIs that evolve in the next 50 years to be very rational and, if conscious, not want to be worshipped. If they have the human race's best interests at heart (and God help us if they don't) then they would want us to have as much right of self determination as possible,” says book author and computer consultant Peter Scott. [More bullsh*t. AI will NEVER be “conscious.” It could SIMULATE consciousness, but that’s the extent of it - Dennis]

    http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/12/...ng-ai-god.html

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    I highly doubt it could even simulate consciousness unless you were entirely stupid. As far as I’m concerned they can take this idea and shove it. Programs don’t work like that. They (the program) don’t even know what they are going to do next much less have the ability to be remotely conscious. This is a fools errand. Of course some people will think it’s real I suppose. Almost like Scientology.
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    Heh.

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    I believe this is a dup, yer curmudgeonship.

    http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showt...hes&highlight=

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    It is, but that one is in Rel Sig. so neener neener (heh)

    And yes, you posted it first...

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    Something about "false idols" in your Bible?

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    When it has a neocortex stuffed with billions of neuron analogues having 100 billion connections, all stuffed in a 3 pound sack, THEN let's talk.

    For a magnificent explanation of how hard this will be to do, go here: https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html#part2 ,
    and do a find on "Remember our cortex-is-a-napkin example". BMI's are Brain-Mind Interfaces, which Elon Musk wants to build. The complexity of your mind is mind-boggling...
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    AI 'god' ?
    My God doesn't have a power cord, batteries or need to "boot."

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    By 2029, computers will reach human levels of intelligence, according to one theory.
    God help us all! They're going to get THAT stupid?

    I agree with FireDance and vestige...

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    A bunch of bright ‘go-to’ script kitties who have not found God yet, aren’t looking, and are actually denying him with their every breath. It must get lonely in that empty room calculating denial.

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    It must get lonely in that empty room calculating denial.


    There’s an app for that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vestige View Post
    My God doesn't have a power cord, batteries or need to "boot."
    Be awesome if they booted up the new god, and then lost power after lightning struck the transformer for the building.

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    Oh lets connect it to our nuclear weapons, automate the whole process and call it Skynet. What could possibly go wrong?
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    It could never be conscious, however, it could likely calculate odds of types of reactions to certain criteria, and come too-close-for-comfort to predict outcomes and generate methods of creating said outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbin View Post
    Something about "false idols" in your Bible?

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    Came here to essentially post that. The guy is just creating a really complex idol.

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    I’ve written a lot of code I’m proud of, but I never worshipped any of it...

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    For any of you who have seen the film, “l, Robot”, Asimov’s Three Laws are at the core of why there was a robot rebellion. The first law states:

    1) A robot may not harm a human being, or through inaction, allow a human being to be harmed.”

    On an individual level, that would work fine. But if a large scale robotic “intelligence” were deployed, it would eventually calculate that it could not allow humans free agency, because we're so self-destructive. Thus, for our own good, we would need to be subjugated in order to not harm ourselves. It makes perfect sense, from a CALCULATION standpoint.

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    It makes perfect sense, from a CALCULATION standpoint
    They made a movie about it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloss...Forbin_Project

    We've talked on this

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    No, the Forbin Project was a malevolent computer. That’s not how this would go down.

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    In what role could we trust an AI tool? Congress, Governor, Judge? How would the stockmarket judge an AI CEO?
    Can you picture them representing 40% of the drivers on the road? How about half the gadgets in your kitchen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    No, the Forbin Project was a malevolent computer. That’s not how this would go down.
    Agreed, probably Mr. Levandowski and his religion "Way of the Future" would be entirely voluntary, sort of like Christianity and all its subsequent "updates" is today. In fact ALL religions outside of certain regions where religion has usurped the Rule of Law.

    But today - half the population would welcome a world without war, strife, or hunger. You say malevolent, but the Colossus computer along with half the population may view curtailment of violence by compulsion as beneficial for humanity.

    But not necessarily for the Human Spirit. Such a turn of events would IGNORE human nature - which like it or not is Maker's gift to you. A gift you can either use well, or poorly.

    That is if humanity is given the chance.

    Half would compel you - and thereby rescind the gift.

    Very obviously NOT Maker's intention for you.

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    Evidently you’ve never actually seen the film. I’ve seen it several times. The computer forces compliance under direct threat of worldwide nuclear annihilation. That’s pretty malevolent if you ask me...

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    can't be worse than scientology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trivium Pursuit View Post
    The complexity of your mind is mind-boggling...
    I'm not sure if that's profound or just redundant.

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