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ALERT Wildfire in Ventura California....Evacuations. Does Any one Have Any News?
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1E81AH

    DECEMBER 14, 2017 / 2:56 AM / UPDATED 42 MINUTES AGO

    Firefighter killed battling massive California blaze

    Dan Whitcomb
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    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A firefighter was killed on Thursday while battling a mammoth California wildfire as crews sought to protect coastal cities and towns in the path of flames that have destroyed more than 700 homes.

    The flag-draped remains of fallen firefighter, Cory Iverson, were driven out of the fire zone in Ventura County, northwest of Los Angeles, in a hearse as his comrades saluted from roadsides and overpasses.

    “Right now, there really is a fear in the community. We’re very used to fire, but the magnitude of this one is something that we haven’t seen,” Monique Limon, a state assemblywoman whose districts includes parts of Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, told Reuters.

    Fire officials released little information about the circumstances surrounding Iverson’s death while fighting the so-called Thomas Fire, now the fourth-largest wildfire on record in California since 1932.

    The Los Angeles Daily News reported that the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection engineer perished in an accident near the community of Fillmore, where a mayday alert was sounded.

    The Thomas Fire, which erupted on Dec. 4 near a small private college in Ojai, has since blackened more than 242,000 acres (97,930 hectares).

    The conflagration advanced again overnight to surpass the Zaca Fire, which struck Santa Barbara County in 2007, charring 240,000 acres (97,120 hectares).

    The Thomas Fire, which was 30 percent contained as of Thursday afternoon, has burned 729 homes to the ground and damaged another 175. The blaze has displaced more than 94,000 people.

    The wildfire remained a threat to some 18,000 homes and other structures in the communities of Santa Barbara, Carpinteria, Summerland and Montecito along California’s scenic coastline, especially if hot, dry Santa Ana winds return.

    Red-flag warnings, issued for extreme fire weather conditions in the area, were extended through Friday morning.

    Many public schools in the Santa Barbara area canceled classes this week and will not reopen until the annual winter break ends in January.

    Some of the other fires burning over the past week in San Diego and Los Angeles counties have largely been brought under control.

    Investigators determined that the Skirball Fire, which destroyed six homes in Los Angeles’ wealthy Bel-Air neighborhood and scorched a building at a winery owned by billionaire media mogul Rupert Murdoch, was started by a cooking fire at a homeless encampment, the Los Angeles Fire Department said earlier this week.

    The Lilac Fire, which burned more than 4,000 acres (1,620 hectares) in northern San Diego County and destroyed 157 structures, was 97 percent contained as of Thursday, Cal Fire said.

    Additional reporting by Brendan O'Brien in Milwaukee, Bernie Woodall in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and Ben Klayman in Detroit; Editing by Jonathan Oatis and Cynthia Osterman

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    I want to know how ALL the fires started. Why don't they tell us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Be Well View Post
    I want to know how ALL the fires started. Why don't they tell us?
    I read that one of them started from a fire at the homeless camp, but cant remember where I read it. Probably a link to on Drudge.

    Well duh, I see it in the story above BW's. I am blind.
    TRUTH ...... its the new hate speech.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...cid=spartanntp

    Thomas fire is now the second largest in modern California history

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    Nicole Santa Cruz and Hailey Branson-Potts
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    MONTECITO, Calif. — After a brief respite from the relentless gusts that have driven the deadly Thomas fire for more than two weeks, powerful winds are expected to return, adding to the challenges facing firefighters working to contain the mammoth blaze.

    The fire, which began near Santa Paula in the foothills above Thomas Aquinas College on Dec. 4, has burned through 272,000 acres as of Tuesday evening, making it the second-largest wildfire in modern California history.

    On Tuesday, the Thomas fire surpassed the lightning-sparked Rush fire, which burned 271,911 acres in Lassen County in 2012.

    The Thomas fire was 50 percent contained, and fire officials do not anticipate full containment until Jan. 8, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

    Firefighters have tried to take advantage of weaker winds Monday and that were forecast for Tuesday. The Ventura County Fire Department on Tuesday morning reported "another productive day" Monday, but with shifting winds on the mountaintops.

    Forecasters predict a new blast of Santa Barbara's notorious sundowner winds, which blow down the canyons to the coast, late Wednesday afternoon and Thursday morning. The winds could create crucial fire conditions for the western side of the blaze in southern Santa Barbara County.

    Northerly gusts will likely exceed 40 mph, with isolated gusts of up to 60 mph possible, according to the National Weather Service.

    The Santa Barbara County side of the fire will be affected by the strong winds first, on Wednesday afternoon and evening. Winds will then pick up on the Ventura County side Wednesday night and Thursday morning, said Joe Sirard, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Oxnard.

    While winds pick up in Ventura County, they will decrease in Santa Barbara County, he said.

    "It is a very large fire, so you're going to have different wind effects over different parts of the fire," Sirard said.

    High fire danger will exist in Los Angeles County this week as well, he said.

    The winds should die down a bit Friday, Sirard said, but another round will return Saturday night and Sunday.

    Sirard said the Thomas fire had burned a remote automatic weather station in the Montecito hills. The instruments provided data about wind speed, air and soil temperature, and humidity.

    There was minimal fire activity overnight Monday, allowing fire crews to strengthen their containment lines, according to Cal Fire. Fuel in the area remains critically dry, posing an especially acute danger when the winds pick up.

    Firefighters are "not quite done" on the southern edge of Montecito, where the fire pushed up against 1,300 homes and damaged 15, said Rudy Evenson, a spokesman for the multi-agency firefighting effort.

    Crews on Tuesday were planning to burn a section of Los Padres National Forest in an attempt to further contain the fire, he said.

    "We want to manage it as lightly as we can," Evenson said.

    Helicopter water drops were planned in an area near Fillmore called Bear Heaven. The threat to the city of Fillmore has decreased because firefighters were able to complete a control line from the town to Devil's Gate, fire officials said.

    On the fire's north and east sides, it continues to burn farther into the Matilija and Sespe wilderness and toward the Sespe Condor Sanctuary, according to Cal Fire.

    As the blaze becomes more contained, fire departments from other jurisdictions will start traveling home, Evenson said.

    "It's drastically ramping down right now," he said. "It's nowhere near the scale that it's been the past two weeks."

    Some evacuation orders were being lifted in Carpinteria and Montecito.

    Along Coast Village Road in Montecito, businesspeople were working to reopen shops and restaurants that had been closed since Saturday morning, when a mandatory evacuation was ordered. The order was lifted at 6 a.m. Tuesday.

    Some merchants worried that closures during the peak holiday season could seriously hurt their profits for the year.

    "It's awful," said Jason Herrick, co-owner of the Liquor and Wine Grotto. The prolonged fires have resulted in his worst month for sales since December 2009, he said.

    "You didn't even see blue skies for 10 days," he said.

    Herrick has owned the wine shop for nearly nine years and has been through wildfires before, but never one this long.

    "I don't think everyone can sustain," Herrick said of other business owners.

    At Lucky's, a steakhouse on the same street, employees wearing masks were working to clear ash from the patio. Larry Nobles, the restaurant's wine director, said he could see the fire from the restaurant's host stand a few days ago.

    "It looked like Armageddon coming at you," he said. "Everybody had something packed."

    Nobles was cautious about reopening the restaurant only to possibly have to close it again because of the expected return of the winds Wednesday.

    "Sounds like they've got it contained, but you never know," he said.

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    (Santa Cruz reported from Montecito, and Branson-Potts reported from Los Angeles.)

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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1EH026

    #ENVIRONMENT DECEMBER 22, 2017 / 6:29 PM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO

    California wildfire becomes largest on record in the state

    Reuters Staff
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    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A sprawling Southern California wildfire that has been burning through rugged, drought-parched coastal terrain since Dec. 4 has become the largest on record in the state, state fire officials said on Friday.

    The so-called Thomas fire has blazed through 273,400 acres (110,641 hectares), surpassing the previous record of the 2003 Cedar fire in San Diego County that scorched 273,246 acres and killed 15 people, they said.

    The Thomas fire was 65 percent contained as of Friday evening and the natural spread of the blaze had been virtually halted days ago by fire crew, they said.

    Incremental increases in burned acreage detected by daily aerial surveys since then have been largely due to controlled-burning operations conducted by firefighters to clear swaths of vegetation between the smoldering edges of the fire zone and populated areas.

    The fire has destroyed over 1,000 structures as it has scorched coastal mountains, foothills and canyons across Ventura and Santa Barbara counties northwest of Los Angeles, officials said.

    On Thursday, authorities canceled the last evacuation notices still in effect for Santa Barbara and Ventura counties.

    One fatality directly related to the fire has been reported, a firefighter who succumbed to burns and smoke inhalation in the line of duty last Thursday.

    Reporting by Steve Gorman in Los Angeles and Jon Herskovitz in Austin, Texas; editing by Diane Craft

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    Thanks HC for keeping us informed. I bet most people don't even know it is still burning having just gone about their busy lives.

    I feel for the poor fireman who can't be with their families at Christmas time.

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    R/T:30.0

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    Do You Know What Started The California Fire Disaster? it wasn't some kids playing with matches. This will shock you!

    Alludes to laser weapons that melted steel brick and glass

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    Has anyone seen any thing on how any of these fires actually started, other than the Bel Air fire started by the homeless encampment?
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    Apparently with military grade lasers that are strong enough to create fire hot enough to melt metal and brick
    And conveniently clear areas that are wanted by the agenda 21 for Greenways

    Interesting that governor Brown has promised MORE FIRES

    The video shows the laser strikes. Post # 207

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    Www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9T3l-0wgw
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    Have you noticed
    Surgically clean fire breaks. No debris from 80 mph winds

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pr...cid=spartandhp

    President declares disaster over deadly California wildfire

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    VENTURA, Calif. — President Donald Trump on Tuesday declared a major disaster in California over a wildfire that destroyed more than 1,000 buildings as fierce winds whipped it through Ventura and Santa Barbara counties last month.

    The declaration makes federal funding available to state and local governments and some nonprofit organizations for emergency work in those counties and statewide for work to reduce hazards related to the fire, according to a White House statement.

    The Thomas fire that began on Dec. 4 is the largest recorded in the state. It was 92 percent contained on Tuesday. Firefighters were still putting out hot spots and smoldering areas.

    The fire covered more than 440 square miles (1,140 sq. kilometers), killed two people, destroyed entire neighborhoods, threatened coastal foothill communities, ravaged wilderness areas and cast a pall of smoke that shuttered businesses in downtown Santa Barbara.

    Firefighting costs alone have approached $200 million.

    The disaster declaration means the federal government may cover 75 percent of those costs and the costs of recovering from the blaze, such as removing vast amounts of debris in fire-denuded areas that could be hit with flash floods and debris flows if winter rains arrive.

    After a flight over the devastated area on Tuesday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen M. Nielsen said the president's declaration will help with rebuilding from the fire, which burned more than 700 homes along with other buildings.

    "Seeing the devastation, I'm deeply moved," she said. "My heart goes out to the survivors. We met with some of them today."

    On Wednesday, she was expected to visit Santa Rosa in Sonoma County. Wildfires in October swept through Sonoma, Napa and other counties in and around wine country, killing 44 people and destroying more than 5,000 homes. Insured damages alone topped $9 billion.

    Trump already approved a major disaster declaration for California for that wildfire.
    Gov. Jerry Brown requested the same declaration last month for San Diego, Los Angeles, Santa Barbara and Ventura counties as devastating fires swept the state.

    "It is expected many of the survivors in the impacted communities will have no insurance coverage or be underinsured," Brown's request said. "Even for those survivors who have insurance coverage, major challenges remain to obtain temporary housing and attempt to rebuild their lives."

    Although Tuesday's declaration only covers Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, "damage assessments are continuing in other areas, and more counties and additional forms of assistance may be designated after the assessments are fully completed," the White House statement said.

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    Has anyone got a summary of the total destruction, number homes and buildings destroyed, number acres burned, death toll etc etc of all these CA fires.

    PS I can see how laser weapons could cause fires but not cell net towers which operate in the RF area of the emf spectrum.

    RF emfs may have other health dangers such as causing cancer even though the radiation is non-ionising but that's not relevant to the topic here.
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    Thanks, NC Susan....I've read that lasers are what caused these fires, and that they are part of the Agenda 21/30 plan, also. Very believable, when I see the evidence, how so many houses are totally incinerated, but trees, etc. near them untouched. Car wheels melted to the street. And, the Globalists' plan is to empty out most of the state for human habitation. Putting humans in stack and pack high rises.Easier to watch and control, that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiana MaJo View Post
    Thanks, NC Susan....I've read that lasers are what caused these fires, and that they are part of the Agenda 21/30 plan, also. Very believable, when I see the evidence, how so many houses are totally incinerated, but trees, etc. near them untouched. Car wheels melted to the street. And, the Globalists' plan is to empty out most of the state for human habitation. Putting humans in stack and pack high rises.Easier to watch and control, that way.

    That's some serious woo right there!
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    That's some serious woo right there!
    Yup.

    I think I lost 3% of my IQ by listening to his vid.

    1) All them hurricane force wind (75 mph or above is hurricane force, btw) are blowing INTO the BASE of the fire, enhancing the combustion of the burnable materials, RAPIDLY reducing ALL of the combustible materials (up to and including aluminum sheets and forgings, and up to medium thickness steel objects) to FINE ash. There IS debris, but it sits on the house spots.

    2) The fact that these winds are blowing INTO the fire at the base and blowing towards the burned areas in the back of the fire front means that any debris is being blown back into the fire path. PLUS these winds are also creating updrafts, so ANYthing combustible is carried vertically, and consumed in the updraft. Temps in those updrafts can top 2-4,000 degrees F. depending on the materials picked up or burning on the ground and due to the INCREDIBLE oxygen input into the conflagration.

    3) Boy needs to do some education on the Triad of Fire, and the effects of high velocity winds and high velocity oxygen inputs. Fire Science might help him as well..


    Yes the streets ARE swept clean.... by winds blowing INTO the fire, and all the carp is carried into the fire and burned to FINE ash, even some metals. Everything is swept into the fire, and as soon as it hits that 2-3,000 degree zone it bursts into flame, as the materials oxydize and contribute to even more heat.

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    I just want to know how they started. Had to be human accident or arson.

    Anyone read anything? (not interested in woo.)
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    This is not woo....more people need to acquaint themselves with what Agenda 21 has in store for us. Here is an article from today, explaining how the PLAN is to create wild lands across America, with about 50% left to be uninhabitable by humans. The article contains many maps showing how the country would look, on a map, after it has been "redesigned" by the Globalists. I can't print the maps, but if you click on the link, you can find them, on the article.

    The name of this scheme is the Wildlands Project. This info has been out, for several years.

    I've wondered how it could be accomplished, but it's beginning to look like this may be one method....to burn the people out....the one video explains how coincidentally the burned areas are where the plans are for smaller lots, etc. There were so many fires suddenly started, in different areas, in California, all at the same time. Coincidence?

    For you Doubting Thomases, read up on Agenda 21 and ask yourselves if the evil Globalists would stop at anything to achieve their goals. Rosa Koire has an excellent book on Agenda 21, and there is a lot of information if you will do the research on the internet. MMJ

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    These Maps Show Us Where We Won't Be Able To Live After The Takeover Of America Is Completed - 'Human Access Denied'

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    By Stefan Stanford - All News Pipeline - Live Free Or Die

    January 5, 2016

    These Maps Show Us Where We Won't Be Able To Live After The Takeover Of America Is Completed - 'Human Access Denied'


    While Americans have long thought of ourselves as 'free', most of us have noticed those 'freedoms' are rapidly being chipped away. Free to choose what jobs we do, who we spend our lives with, what clothes we wear, who we want to be friends with, where we want to go on vacation or for leisure time, what religion we practice and all of the many other facets that make up our daily and extended lives, one choice that Americans have long taken for granted, choosing the location of where we'd like to live, is in grave danger as shared in this story and the 1st video below. Need we be reminded that Americans no longer own much of our country - confiscated as collateral on the national debt.

    The Wildlands Project at first sounds like an amazing thing to people like Susan and I who prefer to spend our time far away from the cities and the masses of people while loving the wilderness within which we live. We know that many of our readers here at ANP feel the same way, preferring to spend their time with family in the country or in the mountains rather than with the masses. What if, suddenly, you were told that you were no longer allowed to live in the mountains or the country, they were being reclaimed for the Earth, and you had to go live with the rest of the masses in the cities or in the suburbs as the globalists 'new world order' agenda goes 'live'? Human access denied?

    For those of us who love the wild lands of America we live in, we have to be very careful in giving our approval to a project called the 'Wildlands Project' no matter how grand it might sound at first for those who love nature for if we don't pay enough attention, we'll quickly fall into the same trap so many others have. From Citizens Review Online.:

    Step by step, piece by piece, the Wildlands Project is coming to fruition. The Project, foundational to the U.N. Biodiversity Treaty which was never ratified by the U.S. Senate, calls for approximately 50 percent of the United States to be set aside as "wildlands", where no human can enter.

    Much has been accomplished over the past 10 years toward that goal, and the pace is stepping up, with the help of the federal agencies under Clinton/Gore. (And so much more since then!) From control of the water - to taking land out of private ownership - to "protecting" numerous species - all the pieces of the puzzle work together to form the complete picture.

    People remain unaware of the size and scope of the operation because land is being taken in the name of "endangered species".

    While many might think the govt controlling where people can or cannot live could never happen in a 'free' country, the recent story that has captured the attention of the entire country, Hammond's Ranch in Oregon, has within its deep roots this very issue. With Undrtaker having taken a look at the Hammond Ranch story from several different angles in this excellent story on ANP, we see that Hammond Ranch, like Bundy Ranch before it, has the 'Wildlands Project' and Agenda 21 as part of the heart of the matter and the slowly eroding land ownership of Americans in the West compared to the federal government's rapidly growing land ownership.

    As has been pointed out before, the staggering percentage of land owned by the federal government in the west compared to the east is absolutely mindblowing and shows a country largely already 'taken over' compared to the relatively small percentages seen in government land ownership in the east as seen in the graphic below.

    For those who may not know, what exactly is Agenda 21? A program largely originating from the United Nations, there's a very good reason why most American's don't know about Agenda 21 because our mainstream media isn't speaking about it. If our mainstream media isn't talking about it, we generally immediately want to know why and begin digging into whatever issue it is that they are censoring. Agenda 21 is a huge issue, and it impacts EVERYBODY living in this country. We get an excellent breakdown of Agenda 21 in 3 paragraphs from Liberty Sentinel.:

    A decades-old scheme to eliminate private ownership of land has been working quietly to snatch up thousands of acres in North-Central Florida and across the nation under the guise of environmental protection. The plan, formally known as “Agenda 21,” was originally outlined in a 1976 United Nations report called ‘Habitat I.’

    United States and Florida law enshrine the protection of life, liberty, and property, but the U.N. condemns private property and goes on to state that “public control of land use” is “indispensable.” Private land ownership, according to Habitat I, contributes to “social injustice.”

    The two ideologies are irreconcilable, but Agenda 21 marches on with the support of the U.S. government and even state and local governments. “Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment,” the U.N. Department of Economic and Social Affairs explains on its Web site.

    While Exposing the Truth tells us that many times, activists mistake the Wildlands Project map for Agenda 21, we see they are largely related, both UN programs tied to the future of land usage in America and the reclamation of land for animals and Earth. This PDF tells us how to recognize Agenda 21 within our own communities.

    Do we really want or need our public servants controlling this much land in America? With their control comes our lack thereof. That is something that everyone needs to remember, and that is why we are here at this point in time now, slaves to our own servants and to a broken system preparing to further enslave us.

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