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ALERT Wildfire in Ventura California....Evacuations. Does Any one Have Any News?
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    Wildfire in Ventura California....Evacuations. Does Any one Have Any News?

    My granddaughter just called me from Ventura. She said people are being evacuated from their homes. There is no electricity where they live, and there are road closures in certain places.

    Bad Santa Anna winds.

    I can't find any information about a fire at all on TV or the radio. Fortunately for my granddaughter, they live right on the ocean and their boat is in the water if they need to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MC2006 View Post
    Thank you!

    There are still no live reports about the fire here on local news. None that I can find anyway.

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    No news, but praying for the safety of your grand-daughter and all there in the area.
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    Thousands evacuated as #ThomasFire blazes across southern California (PHOTOS, VIDEOS & TWEETS at link)

    Firefighters are battling a huge wildfire in southern California that has already burned nearly 10,000 acres and forced the evacuation of thousands in the cities of Santa Paula and Ventura.

    The blaze broke out on Monday in area of about 50 acres, but strong winds have fueled the fire which has spread fast, forcing people from their homes and causing widespread power outages. At least one person has been confirmed dead as a result of a car crash when fleeing from the fire.

    High winds initially pushed the brush fire, known as the Thomas Fire, towards Santa Paula, a city of around 30,000 residents about 60 miles northwest of Los Angeles. More than 800 homes were evacuated there.

    However, the rapid spread of the blaze, the cause of which is not yet known, means that the city of Ventura, home to over 100,000 people, will soon feel its effects. Evacuation orders are in place for at least 1,000 homes in the east of the city.

    “The prospects for containment are not good,” Ventura County Fire Chief Mark Lorenzen said. “Really mother nature is going to decide when we have the ability to put it out because it is pushing hard.” Lorenzen added that all firefighters can do at this stage is try and get ahead of the fire and protect structures.

    Further to the homes, the Santa Paula Unified School District announced Monday night that all schools in the city will be closed on Tuesday due to the blaze. Thomas Aquinas College, which about 350 students attend, has also been evacuated.

    Firefighters have mounted an aggressive strategy to tackle the blaze, with aircraft and additional emergency services being drafted in from neighbouring cities. Their efforts were hampered by darkness and winds which forced aircraft to be grounded on Monday night.

    https://www.rt.com/usa/411963-wildfi...paula-ventura/
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    Just watched the 4:30 local news and the figures were 31,000 acres and at least 150 homes destroyed. That will go up for sure according to the views from the helicopter. With daylight, they will call in air support.

    Another started near Sylmar an hour ago and has already explided to over 500 acres.

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    So RT and the BBC are covering...hmmm
    California wildfire: Thousands evacuated in Ventura County
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    Wildfire in Ventura County, California, on 5 December 2017Image copyrightWCBS
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    The blaze spread over thousands of acres within a matter of hours

    Thousands of residents have been forced to flee their homes in the middle of the night as a fast-moving wildfire rips through southern California.

    Nearly 8,000 homes were under mandatory evacuation in the cities of Ventura and Santa Paula, north of Los Angeles.

    Firefighters warned that the fire was moving so fast they were unable to contain it.
    The blaze started on Monday evening and by early Tuesday had burned 26,000 acres (10,500 hectares).

    One person died in a traffic accident while trying to flee the fire, officials said.

    More than 260,000 customers were said to be without power.

    Fairground open for evacuees

    Multiple structures, including a large apartment complex, were ablaze as the fire swept into Ventura city, the LA Times reports.

    Emergency workers were going house to house urging people to leave their homes, while hundreds of firefighters worked to protect homes and buildings.

    But Ventura County Fire Chief Mark Lorenzen said: "The prospects for containment are not good. Really mother nature is going to decide."

    Evacuation centres have been opened in schools and fairgrounds.

    The fire is believed to have broken out close to Thomas Aquinas College in Santa Paula, some 50 miles (80km) north of Los Angeles, early on Monday evening.

    It was quickly fanned by gusts of up to 70mph (115 kph).

    The college said that all its 350 students and staff had been evacuated.
    California has been hit hard by wildfires in recent months.

    At least 40 people were killed when fires ripped through parts of northern California's wine region in October. Some 10,000 structures were destroyed.
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    Fire season starts early in California. Probably a fire bug or bugs, but just the tip of the iceburg for the 2018 season. If the West continues the mostly dry winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by West View Post
    Fire season starts early in California. Probably a fire bug or bugs, but just the tip of the iceburg for the 2018 season. If the West continues the mostly dry winter.
    Yep. I lived for 50 years in So Cal. The Santa Anas always get bad this time of year and the pyro freaks know it's the best time to start fires.
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    California Highway Patrol Traffic Incident Information Page

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    Details 00280 6:28 PM Report of Fire Sr150 / Thomas Aquinas College BTWN STECKEL PK and TAC Ventura

    Detail Information
    5:24 AM 33 [200] 31-D8 97 AT 150/STONEGATE // FOR INFO - SPPD HAS A HARD CLOSURE AT 150/TELEGRAPH and 150/RICHMOND
    12:14 AM 32 [180] 1039 VPD WILL SEND A UNIT
    12:12 AM 31 [179] B31-102 FIRE TKS LINED UP ALONG FOOTHILL JEO
    11:32 PM 30 [175] B31-020 CLR'D THE RDWY ALL THE WAY TO HARD CLOSURE / E2 1023 W/ CT / 98 1019 / S4 CPYS HAVE 502 1019 AS WELL 20 REMAIN AT STA UNTIL FURTHER
    11:06 PM 29 [169] Secondary Location for C31-E02: 97 AT HARD CLOSURE 150 AT BOCCALLIS.
    10:49 PM 28 [166] 31-20 AND 31-E2 TOGETHER STILL TRYING TO CLR TRAFFIC APPROX 3 MI JEO HARD CLOSURE // S4 CPYS WHEN CLR'D UP A LITTLE BIT GO 98 1019
    10:45 PM 27 [164] 1039 VCFD
    10:45 PM 26 [163] B31-302 LL // CITZ RPT TO 302 - NEED FOR FIRE RESPONSE ON OHARA CANYON RD - NFD
    10:06 PM 25 [160] C31-E02 MOVING TRAFFIC WB
    9:33 PM 24 [149] 31-S4 LL // SEND 302 TO FOOTHILL / CUMMINGS // SEND 102 TO FOOTHILL AT WELLS - NO EB TRAFFIC
    9:30 PM 23 [145] B31-020 INFO - WE ARE EVACUTING AREA TOPA VISTA FIRE ON US AND CT MOVED CLOSURE TO BOCALLIS CLEARED EVERYTHING TO JWO BOCALLIS
    9:25 PM 22 [141] 60 PER S2 HEADED TO WELLS / FOOTHILL TO SHUT TRAFFIC HEADED NB
    9:10 PM 21 [132] 31-S2 LL // WILL NEED CORDS FOR ADDL CLOSURES // FIRE RUNNING ALONG THE SOUTH BORTHER OF FOOTHILL // WILL NEED TO SHUT DOWN FOOTHILL AT PECK ALL THE WAY TO WELLS
    8:49 PM 20 [129] B31-020 HOLDING EB TRAFFIC AT SISAR RD
    8:46 PM 19 [126] 31-40 CPYS LINES 122/124 // HARD CLOSURE WB 150 AT STONEGATE NOT LETTING ANYBODY PASS AT THIS TIME
    8:36 PM 18 [122] VSO LL / MALE PARTY AT 108 E SULPHUR MOUNTAIN RD ATT TO MOVE GOATS, NEEDS PERMISSION FROM CHP TO PASS
    8:31 PM 17 [121] PER S2 CONTACT CT AND HAVE SUP 1021 - 1039 LA DOT
    8:03 PM 16 [116] JAVIER FROM CT LL / RE: HARD CLOSURE 2 SUPERVISORS ARE RESPONDING #1 AT 150/STONEGATE, BOB KILPATRICK ETA 15 MINS AND #2 150/HIGH ST ETA AL MAGANA 35 MINS - POINT OF CONTACT SUPERINTENDANT VICTOR KORZIN CELL 805-573-2972, ETA 45 FOR SUPER INT
    7:42 PM 15 [108] PER ANOTHER CALLER - SEPERATE FIRE STARTING ON BACKSIDE 150/TAC AND NOT THE ONE ALREADY WORKING / SAG / XFER VCFD
    7:37 PM 14 [101] 31-S2 CONTACT CALTRANS FOR HARD CLOSURE 150/SUMMIT AND MUPU
    7:30 PM 13 [96] 1039 ENTAC
    7:30 PM 12 [104] [Appended, 19:39:45] [1] RP ADVING FIRE STARTING ON KOENIGSTEIN
    7:27 PM 11 [93] 1039 SPPD
    7:26 PM 10 [91] 40 FIRE ADVING MOVING CLOSURE FURTHER EAST ON 150 // ADVS SPPD TO SET UP AT HIGH ST
    7:16 PM 9 [79] CLOSURE BTWN SUMMIT AND MUPU
    7:06 PM 8 [67] B31-040 CONTACT FIRE TO SEE IF THEY ARE ALLOWING RESIDENTS
    6:55 PM 7 [57] [Notification] [CHP]-VCFED NEEDS 150 CLOSED ON SANTA PAULA AND OJAI SIDE [Shared]
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    6:47 PM 5 [38] B31-040 FIRE IS LARGE AND VISIBLE FRM 126
    6:40 PM 4 [39] [Appended, 18:47:17] [1] RP'S HILLSIDE IS ON FIRE
    6:39 PM 3 [25] [Notification] [CHP]-VCFD REQ CHP TO 1198 T THE COLLEGE / FIRE HEADING TOWARDS STRUCTURES [Shared]
    6:31 PM 2 [9] 1/4 MI FRM THE RDWY / IN A COUPLE SPOTS / TRF VCFD
    6:29 PM 1 [1] BRUSH FIRE
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    Live ABC-7 chopper and ground coverage

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    Another fire broke out overnight, east of the original fire near Sylmar,

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    Fast-moving Creek fire threatens homes in Sylmar area, burns more than 2,500 acres

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    December 5, 2017, 7:00 AM

    os Angeles County firefighters were battling a 1,000-acre brush fire Tuesday morning near Sylmar, fueled by powerful Santa Ana winds.

    The Creek fire broke out off Little Tujunga Canyon Road around 4 a.m. and was threatening homes north of the 210 Freeway.

    The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department was ordering evacuations in unincorporated areas. The Los Angeles Police Department was handling evacuations in parts of Slymar and Lakeview Terrace.

    A large group of firefighters was on the scene, and up to eight water-dropping helicopters were hitting the fire, trying to slow its progress.

    The blaze comes as firefighters are dealing with a fast-moving, wind-fueled wildfire that swept into the city of Ventura, burning 31,000 acres, destroying homes and forcing 27,000 people to evacuate. About 150 structures — including at least one large apartment complex — were consumed by flames, and many more were threatened as the fire crept about a quarter-mile from Ventura City Hall.

    According to thr LAFD, mandatory evacuations were called for in:

    --Kagel Canyon

    -- Trailer park in Lopez Canyon

    --Arroyo St north of 210 Freeway

    --Mobile home park top of Maclay Street

    -- Pacoma Wash west of Sayre St

    --Edlridge and Hubbard streets

    Voluntary evacuations were called:

    -- East of Vetrans Park to Pacoima Canyon, between Sayre and Polk streets

    --North of the 210 Freeway, between Polk and Bledsoe streets.

    -- Between Bledsoe and Roxford streets.

    --Between Roxford Street and Glenoaks Boulevard.

    --Between Glenoaks and Filbert street.

    -- Filbert to 5/14 Freeway.

    Evacuation centers have been set up at the Sylmar Recreation Center, 13109 Borden Avenue and Sunland Senior Center, 8640 Fenwick Street.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...205-story.html
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    Homes threated at Santa Paula.

    Note how close the large trees are to the homes.

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    You can also listen to the scanner. My friend lives in Ventura and has been evacuated.
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    Just talked to my granddaughter in Ventura again. Over 45,000 acres have burned now.

    Three of their friends have lost their home. My granddaughter is on her way to pick up one of their friends who lost their home and are now homeless with two little children.

    She said they heard the courthouse in Ventura has been burned in the fire. I have not heard anything very specific from my local media.

    Wind gusts may be up to 70 miles an hour in the fire area. Not good.

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    Got evacuated from work in Santa Clarita. Things are pretty chaotic all over LA right now.

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    It's bad. My friend from HS is waiting to hear on her home but next block over several homes lost.
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    Heard on Fox this morning that a guy saved his house by throwing water from his hot tub onto the vegetation......

    Why would you still be so close when the fire was next to your hot tub......get out of there with tornadic winds at 70mph.
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    The firefighters are saying this is reminiscent of the Santa Rosa fires. On KFI out of LA, it's being reported that people couldn't get out fast enough. Elderly people were calling saying they had no way to evacuate. It's deja vue all over again. Brown declared a State of Emergency:

    http://ktla.com/2017/12/05/gov-brown...g-thomas-fire/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardou View Post
    The firefighters are saying this is reminiscent of the Santa Rosa fires. On KFI out of LA, it's being reported that people couldn't get out fast enough. Elderly people were calling saying they had no way to evacuate. It's deja vue all over again. Brown declared a State of Emergency:

    http://ktla.com/2017/12/05/gov-brown...g-thomas-fire/

    Pics at the link
    I heard that on the scanner earlier.

    My friend is on her way back to her house/ neighborhood. I hope it's still there. She escaped with her dogs and her meds.
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    Al Boe BREAKING NEWS‏ @AlBoeNEWS
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    #BREAKING: Authorities describe San Bernardino fire as "IMMEDIATE LIFE THREAT." Fire burning near the Cal State Bernardino campus


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    #BREAKING Update : Southern California's #CreekFire Jumps 210 Freeway as Thousands Attempt To Evacuate; Blaze Is 0% Contained - LA Times


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    From a thread on FR:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ch...sts?page=55#55

    More UPDATE #ThomasFire: Tucson Sector Border Patrol has a group detained that possibly started the fire. #azfire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Be Well View Post
    From a thread on FR:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ch...sts?page=55#55

    More UPDATE #ThomasFire: Tucson Sector Border Patrol has a group detained that possibly started the fire. #azfire

    From twitter
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    A "group" hmmm, I want pictures and NAMES...
    Me too!
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    We do need to catch the muslims in action. Make it quite clear that there is no valid reason to allow them in this country. Can't trust any of them. (dreaming)

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    Found link on FR, didn't try listening yet.

    Ventura County Fire Live Dispatch Feed

    https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/2858
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    CHP Traffic Incident Information

    Incident: 00754 Type: Report of Fire Location: Thomas Fire Loc Desc:

    8:53 PM 11 [22] [Notification] [CHP]-PER ANOTHER - 126 X HOBSON, APPEARS NEW FIRE STARTING AT RIVERBOTTOM / SAG / XFER VCFD
    8:17 PM 10 [15] ADDTL RP STATING FIRE JUMPED BTWN
    8:11 PM 9 [14] 1039 VCFD REF LINE 12
    8:10 PM 8 [12] 102 FIRE HAS JUMPED TO OCEAN AT SAN MIG
    8:08 PM 7 [11] ADDL // FIRE JUMPED THE 101 AT SOLIMAR
    8:08 PM 6 [10] [Notification] [CHP]-PER ADDT'L 101 JSO PJC / FIRE JUMPED HWY / SAG / XFER VCFD
    8:01 PM 5 [9] PER ADDL // FLAMES ALONG RHS NB 101 JSO SEACLIFF
    7:15 PM 4 [7] PER ADDTL - FIRE HALF WAY DOWN HILLSIDE ACROSS FRM SOLIMAR / TRNS VCFD
    7:13 PM 3 [6] NO SIGN FIRE HAS JUMPED FRWAY // VISIBLE FROM DULAH TO PJC AND SEAC // TRF STOPPING ON RS TO VIEW / 102 WILL REMAIN IN THE AREA
    6:59 PM 2 [4] 1039 VCFD THEYRE ADV AFFIRM ON FIRE JUMPING FRWAY
    6:53 PM 1 [2] VCFD ADV'ING FIRE POSS JUMPED 101 NEAR MONDOS

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    Posted through networking from a friend who works for the Forest Service

    UPDATE as of 6PM:

    FYI: From Jill Lashly at Ojai Valley Land Conservancy

    Passing along these notes I took from a meeting I just finished with cal fire. Feel free to use it as you see fit:

    There’s good news and bad news:

    The good news is that the Governor’s emergency declaration was granted this morning. FEMA, the Marine Corps, and the National Guard are now present and developing contingency plans. The National Guard is providing Black hawks, a C-130 and two MAPS out of Channel Islands that will be in the air as soon as possible (possibly tomorrow morning).

    Cal Fire is deploying 14 air tankers this week and 6 helicopters from Northern California. They will be in the county tonight.

    There are 210 engines, 14 bulldozers and four water tenders working with over 1,100 personnel in Ventura County.

    Local and state government will attempt to host daily press briefing at or around 9 am. They are also coordinating town halls and in person meetings for residents—they are hoping to host one in Ventura this week.

    Bad news:

    The structural damage is far worse than what’s being reported. They don’t have an accurate assessment, but they expect no less than 400 structures have been destroyed in Ventura County. Most of that is in Ventura and Upper Ojai.

    Winds are expect to stick at 40 MPH, which will limit the amount of air support Cal Fire can offer through Thursday. However, the National Guard can provide air support in far more treacherous conditions and will be mobilized as early as tonight.

    Senator Hanna Beth Jackson raised hell over the failure of the emergency alert system. Cal OES assured everyone that their backup notification system is fully operational and local residents will receive up-to-date information going forward.

    Wind conditions will be similar until Thursday, with peak winds reaching 80 MPH. According to the Cal Fire chief, the agency’s goal will be to protect individual homes and prevent new fires from spawning during that time. Conditions will remain poor into next week, but Cal Fire believes it will be able to fight for containment by Fri.

    Cal Fire does not currently have a contingency plan for Ojai. They have assigned a team to develop one this evening. Their goal is to set a perimeter around HWY 33 early tomorrow morning and devote at least one dozen engines to that effort tonight or tomorrow.

    They will have a more accurate assessment of structural damage in 12-24 hours. FEMA is expecting the Governor to make a major disaster declaration tomorrow. If so, the President intends to sign that request.

    The Cal Fire Chief said if the winds shift north before they can activate a contingency plan then they will issue a mandatory evacuation for the city of Ojai.

    So call everyone you know and make sure they are out. Sticking around is tempting fate at this point
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    http://beta.latimes.com/local/califo...206-story.html

    California

    Ventura County under siege: 'It was like watching Rome burn'

    By Ruben Vives, Sarah Parvini*and Jaclyn Cosgrove
    Dec 06, 2017 | 3:00 AM

    The reports started coming in a little after 9 p.m. Monday. A fire had erupted amid the oaks and scrub in the hills north of Santa Paula.

    Located on the southern edge of the Sespe Wilderness, the blaze was named the Thomas fire for its proximity to Thomas Aquinas College. Within hours — its embers driven westward on the gusts of the Santa Ana winds — it had reached Ventura, a dozen miles away.

    Mark Patterson, 58, and his wife, Linda, 59, woke to the sound of pounding on their front door. It was 1:15 a.m. No one was there, and at first they thought it was a prank. But then they could see flames leaping over the ridgeline to the north. Gathering with neighbors in the street, they kept vigil, and by 4 that morning, the hill was consumed.

    Standing in their driveway, feeling the heat of the flames, they knew they had to evacuate. But first they drove to the church where Patterson is the lead pastor. It was safe, but there were more fires downtown, and the enormous apartment complex — Hawaiian Village, known for its views over the city to the ocean — was engulfed in flames.

    "We've lived in Ventura for 19 years," Patterson said. "We've had a couple fires, but nothing like this."

    The fire had taken Foothill Road as its path into the city. First burning through the dry leaves of the outlying avocado groves, it found new fuel in the homes built north of the 101 Freeway. Its glow brightened the night sky.

    Jeff Jacobson and his daughters, Emma, 20, and Olivia, 16, began evacuating before midnight. Their single-story, ranch-style home on Island View Drive — its backyard with coastal views, the Channel Islands in the distance — was threatened.

    Jacobson had considered staying, putting up a fight. He looked at his two grand pianos, one a prized 1937 Mason and Hamlin; they could be lost, he thought. But his daughters were insistent.

    "Let's leave," they said. "Let's leave."

    He could not ignore them. They loaded up a trailer and headed to the evacuation center at the Ventura County Fairgrounds.

    In the past, wildfires have largely skirted downtown Ventura, burning through the wildlands that surround the smaller communities of Ojai and Santa Paula. But Monday night was different.

    Power outages had left more than 260,000 residents in Ventura and Santa Barbara counties without power. Initial alerts from the Ventura County Fire Department reported nearly 31,000 acres consumed and 150 structures destroyed.

    Firefighters set up their command post at the fairgrounds and began planning their offensive, but first they had to wait for daybreak.

    To the east, stories were coming in: of neighbors in Camarillo banding together with garden hoses and spray nozzles to battle the onslaught of sparks; of a mother in Santa Paula who raced back through a police line to grab her daughter's guitar ("It's all she wanted"); of the crowds who had gathered to watch the black smoke and flames creep along a dry ridge near dozens of homes.

    Winds ripped through bougainvillea, sending flames a hundred feet high into the sky. Some homes were spared, others destroyed, trees and chaparral left blackened and smoldering.

    The land, said one resident, had not seen a fire in more than three decades, leaving this conflagration to eat its way through years of brush and debris.

    At first light — the sky gray with smoke and ash — Scott Quirarte, a public information officer for the Ventura County Fire Department, delivered the news: miles of fire line and the frustration of having to wait until dawn to start full operations.

    At 6 a.m., Heather Rhoades, 24, and her boyfriend Tyler Miller, 29, were evacuating Oak View with their family. They were driving down Highway 33 into Ventura, and flames covered the hillsides adjacent to highway. It was terrifying, Miller said, "like driving through the gates of hell."

    "All I saw was Ventura engulfed in flames," Rhoades added. "All my friends' houses were burning down. It was just scary."

    Heading the other direction were David Demshki and his wife, Christy Harris, who live in Oxnard and needed to rescue their three horses in Oak View.

    Making that drive, Demshki said, "felt like you were going into fire." The hills were "boiling" with flames and the sky glowed orange.

    Just east of Highway 33 in Ventura, patients had been evacuated from Vista del Mar Hospital, an acute psychiatric facility, above downtown. Two buildings were destroyed, the facility left smoldering under the smoky sky.

    Returning to Island View Drive, Jeff Jacobson watched flames flick out of his still-burning home. He could see one of two pianos, broken and charred, and he tried to hold back the tears as the memories flooded back, the treasured notes of Emma's playing.

    "So many things that are not replaceable, I don't even know where to start," Jacobson said.

    By 8 a.m., winds were gusting to 40 mph and on the distant ridges, peaking at nearly 70. The ocean was mottled with whitecaps. More than 1,000 firefighters were on the scene, and by 10:30 Gov. Jerry Brown had declared an emergency.

    By some estimates, nearly a quarter of Ventura — 27,000 people — had been evacuated. Mansions off Foothill Road were engulfed in flames. The city was smudged by smoke, palm trees consumed by flames and Christmas decorations — including one inflatable snowman — darkened by soot.

    On Main Street, power had been restored at Pete's Breakfast House, where Gilberto Amaya went to work at the grill. As he scrambled eggs, owner Lindsay Timpson began making breakfast burritos — 800, she guessed — that her daughter would deliver to the firefighters on the hillsides above town.

    Mary Tedesco and her husband, Steve, were helping. They got out of their home just in time to save their three dogs, but they lost two Harley-Davidsons and the irreplaceable mementos of their family: an heirloom cookbook and a father's sergeant badge from World War II.

    "I just try very hard not to let myself break down," Mary Tedesco said. "You gotta stay strong."

    By early afternoon, the fire was at 45,500 acres. By late evening, it was more than 55,000 acres.

    "We anticipate that number to grow," said Capt. Stan Ziegler of the Ventura County Fire Department.

    At the fairgrounds evacuation center, south of the 101, Robin Andersen was walking her dogs. After caravanning out of their neighborhood with her neighbors, the 62-year-old spent the night in her car along with her three dogs and two cats.

    The city, she said, "looked like Armageddon."

    "I sat facing the fires, and it was like watching Rome burn," Andersen said. "I cried. I love this city so much and it was overcome by flames."

    Greg Lindfors dressed up as Santa for the children who had been evacuated.
    “I can’t help in the way firemen or the Red Cross does, but I can do this,” Lindfors said.

    Most of the children he spoke with told him about the Christmas toys they wanted, he said. One boy just wanted a long hug.

    Times staff writers Thomas Curwen, Sonali Kohli, Laura J. Nelson and Matt Hamilton contributed to this report.
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    Live Streaming fire coverage,

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    A new fire overnight.

    "405" freeway now closed in both directions. Multiple structures are threatened.
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    Location of the Getty Center fire,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ractivist View Post
    We do need to catch the muslims in action. Make it quite clear that there is no valid reason to allow them in this country. Can't trust any of them. (dreaming)
    They ARE keeping their promise to "burn" down America.
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    Traffic stopped on the 405 freeway now in close proximity to the spreading fire.

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    There are now multiple fires in the Ventura County area not far from Los Angeles. It looks like resources are being stretched thin resulting in hundreds of structures being burned and numerous roads being closed. Reading the CHP data messages I'm seeing a loss of control and coordination.

    It's getting rather suspicious how many of these fires are developing overnight?


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    00480 Type: Report of Fire Location: I405 N / BEL AIR CREST RD Loc Desc: JNO GETTY

    5:47 AM 40 [150] 79-61 WILL BRK AWAY ETA 5 MINS - ONLY HAS ONE BOX OF FLARES [Shared]
    5:46 AM 39 [148] PER LAPD THEY HAVE SEVERAL UNITS ON SCENE AT THE FIRE - THEY ARE REQ THE NB and SB 405 AT SEPULVEDA AND GETTY ON/R BE SHUT DOWN AS THE FIRE IS SPREADING [Shared]
    5:45 AM 38 [147] 79-S3 * CLOSURE - SMCA BLVD ONR TO NB 405 [Shared]
    5:43 AM 37 [145] FIRE IS MOVING UP THE HILLS TOWARDS HOMES, PER LAFD 131 THERE ARE NOT EVACUATION ORDERS IN EFFECT AT THIS TIME - SEVERAL CALLERS WHO LIVE ON GETTY ABOVE 405 WORRIED AS FIRE IS MOVING TOWARDS THEM [Shared]
    5:42 AM 36 [143] 79-R1 * CLOSURE - WB 10 TO NB 405 [Shared]
    5:40 AM 35 [141] PTY IS STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC AND WORRIED THE FIRE WILL COME TOWARD THE FWY [Shared]
    5:40 AM 34 [140] 1039 LAPD OPR 885 ENRT [Shared]
    5:37 AM 33 [137] Secondary Location for 79-S3: SMCA BLVD ONR TO NB 405 SHUT DWN. [Shared]
    5:37 AM 32 [136] 79-S3 * AT SMCA BLVD ONR TO NB 405 - SHUTDWN [Shared]
    5:37 AM 31 [135] 79-S6 * NEED NB ONR FRM SMCA SHUT DWN AS WELL AS ALL OTHER ON RAMPS JNO THES 1020 - REQ LAPD TO ASSIST WITH THIS [Shared]
    5:35 AM 30 [134] 79-R1 * REQ CALTRANS FOR ADD'L HARD CLOSURE - WB 10 DIVERTING TRF OFF TO SB 405 - PLS AND THX [Shared]
    5:35 AM 29 [133] 79-80T * WILL START TO SEND VEHS DWN SB ON THE NB SIDE FRM BEL AIR CREST [Shared]
    5:34 AM 28 [132] 79-80T * LATE ENTRY - SB SIDE STILL OPEN AT THIS TIME [Shared]
    5:32 AM 27 [131] Secondary Location for C79-012: CLOSURE WB 10 TO NB 405. [Shared]
    5:32 AM 26 [130] THIS FIRE IS MOVING DOWN ANOTHER HILLSIDE TOWARDS THE FWY [Shared]
    5:31 AM 25 [129] ANOTHER FIRE FLARED UP AT GETTY - PTYS ARE STOPPED ON THE FWY AND PTYS ARE AFRAID THE FIRE IS GOING TO COME DOWN ONTO THE FWY AND BURN THEM [Shared]
    5:29 AM 24 [127] REQ ADD'L UNITS FOR CLOSURE FRM WB 10 TO NB 405 -AND- ALSO ON RAMPS TO NB 405 TO THIS 1020 [Shared]
    5:23 AM 23 [122] [CHP] has closed their incident [171206LA00478]
    5:22 AM 22 [121] PLS ROLL CALTRANS FOR HARD CLOSRE - ETA THX [Shared]
    5:17 AM 21 [115] 79-62T * FIRE IS MOVING FAST, REQ TO ASC FRM SGT IF OK TO SHUTDWN SB SIDE [Shared]
    5:15 AM 20 [110] 79-80T * WILL HAVE TO DIVERT TRF OFF AT GETTY W/WAY [Shared]
    5:15 AM 19 [109] PER 56-406 ENTIRE SEPULVEDA PASS IS ON FIRE -- IT'S MOVING QUICK [Shared]
    5:13 AM 18 [106] 79-62T WILL GET INTO POSITION IN CASE FIRE JUMPS TO SB SIDE [Shared]
    5:08 AM 17 [100] FIRE 97 [Shared]
    5:05 AM 16 [97] TMC COPIES SIGALERT, 10-39 MEDIA [Shared]
    5:03 AM 15 [93] PLS ISSUE SIGLRT FOR 1HR - ALL LNS - THX [Shared]
    5:02 AM 14 [92] ALL LNS STOPPED [Shared]
    5:02 AM 13 [88] 56-406 97 NB JNO GETTY -- ENTIRE HILLSIDE ON FIRE
    5:00 AM 12 [77] [Notification] [CHP]-PER DUPE FIRE IS JUMPING THE FWY [Shared]
    4:59 AM 11 [68] PER LAST PTY FIRE IS 97
    4:59 AM 10 [65] 1039 79-S6
    4:58 AM 9 [49] PER ANOTHER RP LARGE FIRE JNO SUNSET
    4:57 AM 8 [56] [Appended, 04:58:44] [1] BRUSH FIRE ON RS
    4:56 AM 7 [35] PER ANOTHER RP FIRE MOVING UP THE HILL - CONF LAFD
    4:54 AM 6 [29] [Appended, 04:55:32] [2] 1039 LAFD
    4:54 AM 5 [28] [Appended, 04:55:32] [1] BRUSH FIRE ON RS
    4:53 AM 4 [12] PER DUPE FLAMES ARE RIGHT UP AGAINT TRAFFIC LANES [Shared]
    4:52 AM 3 [7] [Appended, 04:53:11] [1] ON RS AREA
    4:52 AM 2 [6] [Appended, 04:53:11] [2] [Appended, 04:53:05] [1] BRUSH FIRE OFF NB SIDE OF 405
    4:51 AM 1 [1] BRUSH FIRE STARTING ON RS
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    Live streaming feed,

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    Southbound 405 freeway traffic still slipping through.

    Traffic congestion is becoming a serious issue in the area and the authorities are waiting until the last minute to shut down traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echo 5 View Post
    Got evacuated from work in Santa Clarita. Things are pretty chaotic all over LA right now.
    Is that the "Rye" fire? My brother is in Valencia and as far as I know they have not been evacuated yet, but him and his wife have been posting pics of the smoke plumes from their area. He had a big house in Castaic that backed up on a wild area and he says there are fires that can be seen from that house (not the first time). There is nothing we can do except hope and pray for the best. So I am praying for him and his family to stay safe, as well as everyone else in the path of these monsters.

    I am one who always takes my time and does the "watch and wait" routine before I decide on a hurricane evacuation, but if it was fire, get outta my way cause I am leaving. There is no surviving these fires as we have just seen in No. Cali.

    I grew up in the Los Angeles area. One thing about these fires, the areas that are burning used to just be "dirt," ranch land, scrub brush, that sort of thing, a few little towns or isolated homes. Now, there are many subdivisions where there used to be nothing. When I was a kid, there were fires. They were basically brush fires. Now they are major disasters.

    Praying for the safety of all involved, the residents and their families, and the brave firemen and first responders. Keep them safe.
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    "Getty" fire about to claim a large home.

    Evacuations in progress.

    This fire is only a few hours old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ractivist View Post
    We do need to catch the muslims in action. Make it quite clear that there is no valid reason to allow them in this country. Can't trust any of them. (dreaming)
    It's doubtful the muzzie are starting these fires. They're Mexican muzzies, pissed that they are going to be deported, pissed that they cannot live or work here. Pissed that their drug activities have been shut down. They have every reason to start these fires, and who is going to stop them?

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    I grew up in the Los Angeles area. One thing about these fires, the areas that are burning used to just be "dirt," ranch land, scrub brush, that sort of thing, a few little towns or isolated homes. Now, there are many subdivisions where there used to be nothing. When I was a kid, there were fires. They were basically brush fires. Now they are major disasters.
    In a previous post, it was mentioned that one of these areas "hadn't seen fire in over 3 decades", so the fuel load pretty much guaranteed disaster.

    Well, the Santa Ana winds show up pretty much every year (at least regularly... not a West coast resident here) and drought has been a fact of life in California since time began. 30 years is the blink if an eye in historical terms.

    It seems there are large areas which never should have been built in, much less developed to the extent they have been.

    If you have a cluster of ranch buildings in the middle of a thousand acres at brush pastures, you may lose cattle, and *maybe* the buildings (except they used to keep the brush and fuel load trimmed WAY back), but it was still just one homestead to rebuild... not hundreds.

    How long before insurance companies say "enough"?

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