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    Zimbabwe - Mugabe under house arrest; wife flees country, post 32

    Rumour only but there may be things going down in Zimbabwe. Stories about Mugabe being deposed? Unsubstantiated and only on the net but I thought worth repeating.

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    FWIW, hat tip to Danielboon at The Tree of Liberty:


    A Reuters witness saw two tanks parked beside the main road from Harare to Chinhoyi, about 20 km (14 miles) from the city. One, which was pointed in the direction of the capital, had come off its tracks.
    Business continued normally inside the capital and there was no sign of a major military presence on the streets. Hours after the tanks were spotted, state media carried no extraordinary reports. Government officials could not be reached for comment.
    Witnesses said they saw four armored vehicles turn before reaching Harare, heading toward the Presidential Guard compound in a suburb called Dzivarasekwa on the outskirts of Harare.


    “There were about four tanks and they turned right here, you can see markings on the road,” one witness on the Chinhoyi highway said pointing to a road that links up to the Presidential Guard compound that houses the battalion that protects President Robert Mugabe.
    Mugabe, the only leader Zimbabwe has known in 37 years of independence, chaired a weekly cabinet meeting in the capital.


    In an unprecedented step, the head of the armed forces, Constantino Chiwenga, openly threatened to intervene in politics on Monday, a week after Mugabe fired Vice President Emerson Mnangagwa, long seen as 93-year-old Mugabe’s likely successor.
    Mnangagwa, a veteran of Zimbabwe’s 1970s liberation wars, was popular with the military, which viewed his removal as part of a purge of independence-era figures to pave the way for Mugabe to hand power to his wife Grace, 52.
    “We must remind those behind the current treacherous shenanigans that, when it comes to matters of protecting our revolution, the military will not hesitate to step in,” Chiwenga said in a statement read to reporters at a news conference packed with top brass on Monday.
    Grace Mugabe has developed a strong following in the powerful youth wing of the ruling party. Her rise has brought her into conflict with the independence-era war veterans, who once enjoyed a privileged role in the ruling party under Mugabe, but who have increasingly been banished from senior government and party roles in recent years. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-zi..._medium=Social
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    Grace Mugabe
    Winnie Mandela all over again.

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    It would be nice to see a photo of Mugabe hanging from the tube of one of these tanks.

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    Hopefully this comes in time to help that poor woman who got locked up for calling Mugabe a sick old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacknarwhal View Post
    Hopefully this comes in time to help that poor woman who got locked up for calling Mugabe a sick old man.
    My thought too.

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    Evan Petzer‏ @endless_topics
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    Allot of military movement in #Zimbabwe #BREAKING for more #Video clips:

    https://twitter.com/papafavour/statu...54211640332289


    Evan Petzer‏ @endless_topics
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    #BreakingNews #Zimbabwe #Mugabe is under army siege at his blue roof residence for the past two days,the army are not allowing him or any person to leave or enter his residence,its believed the army is demanding Mugabe to step down,heavily army can be seen around his residence.



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    RT @hmamadi: RT @kiddoGAMMZ: #Zimbabwe 's Robert #Mugabe says it's not over until it's over... @SDEKenya @KTNKenya
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    If Robert is like Nelson and Grace is like Winnie -

    they BOTH need to be thrown out!
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    RT @hmamadi: RT @kiddoGAMMZ: #Zimbabwe 's Robert #Mugabe says it's not over until it's over... @SDEKenya @KTNKenya[/QUOTE]

    And then the sound of a 45 ACP slamming into Roberts head determines it is over. Goodnight Robert and sweet dreams in Hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sunday View Post
    If Robert is like Nelson and Grace is like Winnie -

    they BOTH need to be thrown out!
    If so, they need executed, preferably by the family of their victims.
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    #Breaking #Zimbabwe #Harare
    Moreover, according to local residents, it seems that soldiers have taken over State tv.
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    For links see article source.....
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-zi...KBN1DE1NG?il=0

    #World NewsNovember 14, 2017 / 4:43 AM / Updated 6 minutes ago

    Soldiers on Harare streets as ruling party accuses Zimbabwe army chief of treason

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    HARARE (Reuters) - Zimbabwe’s ruling party accused the head of the armed forces of treason on Tuesday as troops took up positions around the capital in an escalation of a dispute with 93-year-old President Robert Mugabe over political succession.

    Just 24 hours after military chief General Constantino Chiwenga threatened to intervene to end a purge in the ruling party, a Reuters reporter saw six armored personnel carriers on major thoroughfares on the outskirts of the capital.

    Aggressive soldiers directing traffic told passing cars to keep moving through the darkness.

    “Don’t try anything funny. Just go,” one soldier said on Harare Drive.

    The presence of troops, including the movement of at least six armored personnel carriers from a barracks northwest of Harare, sparked rumors of coup against Mugabe, although there was no evidence to suggest Zimbabwe’s leader of the last 37 years had been toppled.

    The lead item on the ZBC state broadcaster’s evening news bulletin was an anti-military rally by the youth wing of Mugabe’s ZANU-PF party.

    The Southern African nation has been on edge since Monday when Chiwenga, Commander of Zimbabwe Defence Forces, said he was prepared to “step in” to end a purge of supporters of a sacked vice president.

    The unprecedented statement represents an escalation of a rumbling political struggle over who will succeed Mugabe, who has been in power since the country gained independence from Britain in 1980.

    Mugabe chaired a weekly cabinet meeting in the capital on Tuesday. Afterwards, ZANU-PF said it stood by the “primacy of politics over the gun” and accused Chiwenga of “treasonable conduct... meant to incite insurrection.”

    Mugabe fired Vice President Emerson Mnangagwa last week. The veteran of the 1970s liberation war was popular with the military and had been seen as a likely successor to Mugabe.

    The army views his removal as part of a purge of independence-era figures to pave the way for Mugabe to hand power to his wife Grace Mugabe.

    A Reuters witness saw two armored vehicles parked beside the main road from Harare to Chinhoyi, about 20 km (14 miles) from the city. One, which was pointed in the direction of the capital, had come off its tracks.

    Witnesses said they saw four armored vehicles turn before reaching Harare and head towards the Presidential Guard compound in a suburb on the outskirts of Harare.

    “There were about four tanks and they turned right here, you can see markings on the road,” one witness on the Chinhoyi highway said, referring to the armored vehicles. He pointed to a road that links to the guard compound.

    The troop movements raise tension on a continent where for decades armies regularly overthrew civilian governments.

    “DEFENDING OUR REVOLUTION”
    Neither the president nor his wife responded in public to the general’s remarks and state media did not publish Chiwenga’s statement. The Herald newspaper posted some of the comments on its Twitter page but deleted them.

    The head of ZANU-PF’s youth wing accused the army chief of subverting the constitution. Grace Mugabe has developed a strong following in the powerful youth wing.

    “Defending the revolution and our leader and president is an ideal we live for and if need be it is a principle we are prepared to die for,” Kudzai Chipanga, who leads the ZANU-PF Youth League, said at the party’s headquarters in Harare.

    Grace Mugabe’s rise has brought her into conflict with the independence-era war veterans, who once enjoyed a privileged role in the ruling party under Mugabe, but who have in recent years been banished from senior government and party roles.

    Decades ago, Zimbabwe had one of Africa’s promising economies due in part to its agricultural exports.

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    Soldiers take over Zimbabwe state broadcaster: ZBC staff


    Zimbabwe's ruling party says will never succumb to army threats

    The country is currently struggling to pay for imports due to a dollar crunch, which is also sparking rampant inflation only 10 years after it suffered a financial implosion caused when the central bank began to print money.

    Martin Rupiya, an expert on Zimbabwe military affairs at the University of South Africa in Pretoria, said the army appeared to be putting the squeeze on Mugabe.

    “There’s a rupture between the executive and the armed forces,” Rupiya said.

    Alex Magaisa, a British-based Zimbabwean academic said it was premature to talk about a coup.

    “A military coup is the nuclear option. A coup would be a very hard sell at home and in the international community. They will want to avoid that,” Magaisa said.

    Additional reporting by Ed Cropley, James Macharia and Joe Brock in Johannesburg; Writing by James Macharia; Editing by Matthew Mpoke Bigg

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    Mr. Revinsky‏ @MrKyruer
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    #Breaking #Zimbabwe #Harare
    "It's looking more and more as though Mugabe may be gone".



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    Itay Ron Retweeted Ed Cropley

    #Breaking #Zimbabwe - if true , a new morning to rise in #Harare. Destails still emerge and sometimes contradict
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    Sky News - Reports of 3 explosions in the centre of Harare, capital of Zimbabwe
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    While there seems little hope that those who replace him will be significantly better, there will be some small justice in knowing that the last thing Mugabe sees this side of hell is his own fall from power.

    Cannot come too soon.

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    #BREAKING: #US embassy tells citizens in #Zimbabwe to "shelter" amid uncertainty
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    #ZimbabweCoup Military vehicles and checkpoints across #Zimbabwe capital #Harare. The US embassy advises citizens to stay at home.

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    AFP news agency‏Verified account @AFP
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    #BREAKING Gunfire close to Mugabe's private residence: witness to AFP
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    When I hear that Mugabe's dead, I'll break out a bottle of the good stuff.

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    Reagan Mashavave‏ @ReaganMashavave
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    #Breaking Zimbabwe army says it is not a a military coup but to correct things which have been going wrong #liveonZtv
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    Ryan Mac‏ @RyanMacTweets
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    #Breaking U.S. embassy in Zimbabwe will be closed tomorrow as possible coup is underway. U.S. citizens asked to shelter in place



    Enver Conde Ferrer‏ @EnverConde
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    #BREAKING: The #Zimbabwe military has taken control to "pacify" a destabilized nation and note Mugabe has not been killed
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    scrolling on SkyNews now, Mugabe and his wife are in custody.

    https://news.sky.com/watch-live
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    For links see article source.....
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    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ol-the-capital

    Zimbabwe's Army Seizes Control, Mugabe Apparently Sidelined

    November 14, 2017, 9:35 PM ET
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    Updated at 4:10 a.m. ET on Wednesday

    Zimbabwe's army said Wednesday that it has seized control in what is being described as "a bloodless transition" that has apparently pushed aside President Robert Mugabe. The military said he and his family are "safe and sound."

    Armored vehicles and soldiers patrolled streets in the capital, Harare, amid loud explosions overnight. Soldiers reportedly took control of the headquarters of the national broadcaster, ZBC, and an army spokesman said on air "this is not a military takeover."

    "We are only targeting criminals around [Mugabe], who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country, in order to bring them to justice," according to the statement.

    However, just a week after Mugabe, 93, fired longtime vice president and liberation war veteran Emmerson Mnangagwa, accusing him of disloyalty and disrespect, an account purporting to belong to the ruling ZANU PF party tweeted that Mnangagwa had been installed as the party's interim president.

    ZANU PF @zanu_pf

    Zimbabwe has not had a coup. There has been a decision to intervene because our constitution had been undermined, in the interim Comrade E Mnagngawa will be president of ZANU PF as per the constitution of our revolutionary organisation.
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    The apparent putsch, which the military is refusing to call a coup, marks the first time in Mugabe's 37-year rule that a public rift was visible between the military and Mugabe — the world's oldest head-of-state, who has been in office since the end of white minority rule in 1980.

    Initially, the governing party accused Army Chief Gen. Constantino Chiwenga of "treasonous conduct," but the party's account later tweeted that: "There was no coup," but instead "a bloodless transition which saw corrupt and crooked persons being arrested." Apparently referring to Mugabe, the tweet said "an elderly man who had been taken advantage of by his wife [was] detained."

    ZANU PF @zanu_pf

    There was no coup, only a bloodless transition which saw corrupt and crooked persons being arrested and an elderly man who had been taken advantage of by his wife being detained. The few bangs that were heard were from crooks who were resisting arrest, but they are now detained
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    The ZANU PF Twitter account retweeted a message from the party's youth league that said: "The army is simply effecting a National Democratic Project and it's doing so with peaceful aplomb."

    In the army's overnight broadcast, the spokesman, Gen. Sibusiso Moyo, said the military expected "normalcy" to return as soon as the army had completed its "mission."

    Chiwenga made an unprecedented announcement Monday that the army was prepared to intervene to halt party infighting and the purging of veterans, such as Vice President Mnangagwa, who fought Zimbabwe's independence war.

    Mnangagwa had been tipped as a likely successor to Mugabe, but fell foul of the president's powerful wife, Grace Mugabe. His removal was widely perceived as a prelude to Mugabe promoting the politically ambitious but controversial first lady to one of two vice presidential posts.

    In a statement attributed to Mnangagwa at the time he reportedly left for self-imposed exile, he promised to return to Zimbabwe to "lead" the country, warning Mugabe that the ZANU PF party was not his personal property.

    The U.S. embassy closed to the public and encouraged citizens to shelter in place, citing "the ongoing political uncertainty through the night." The British embassy issued a similar warning, and noted "reports of unusual military activity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc1 View Post
    When I hear that Mugabe's dead, I'll break out a bottle of the good stuff.

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    Yep it'll be happy dance time alright..
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    But this is Africa, there's a good chance that what follows will be just as bad, or worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackpine Savage View Post
    But this is Africa, there's a good chance that what follows will be just as bad, or worse.
    Agree.
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    good gawd but that the white mercs couldnt have gotten to him and rubbed him out
    Same with the savior Mandela

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    Maybe Mugabe will come to the US and be hailed as a hero by our niggers. Perhaps they’ll raise a statue to him in DeeCee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Olson View Post
    Maybe Mugabe will come to the US and be hailed as a hero by our niggers. Perhaps they’ll raise a statue to him in DeeCee...
    Honestly, I've never met anyone black or white that likes Mugabe or thought he was anything other than a thug; but then I admit that most of the African-Americans I have gotten to know tend to be either middle-class co-workers, professionals or at least self-education working people with some common sense.
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    Iron Man 2 or Mods, I think the thread title needs updating...this is from the UK Independent live blog - there is more at the link but it keeps updating..

    "Zimbabwe live updates: Robert Mugabe under house arrest as Grace Mugabe 'flees country' after military seize Harare but deny coup"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8055536.html
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    Our niggers would fawn over him like he’s a black Apollo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Honestly, I've never met anyone black or white that likes Mugabe or thought he was anything other than a thug; but then I admit that most of the African-Americans I have gotten to know tend to be either middle-class co-workers, professionals or at least self-education working people with some common sense.

    ??????? - the guy certainly had worshipers at the UN - black and white ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Iron Man 2 or Mods, I think the thread title needs updating...this is from the UK Independent live blog - there is more at the link but it keeps updating..

    "Zimbabwe live updates: Robert Mugabe under house arrest as Grace Mugabe 'flees country' after military seize Harare but deny coup"

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8055536.html
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    plenty of whites loved and showed mugabe admiration
    even the brits of all people
    he was even knighted by queen Elizabeth II in 94. long long very long after every one knew particularly the birts how murderous this dude was. which is in keeping with how the brits roll i guess.

    during the 80s the birts couldn't stop falling over themselves in their fawning admiration for the guy..
    I feel so cold, on hookers and gin.................the messes where in....................

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuapia View Post
    plenty of whites loved and showed mugabe admiration
    even the brits of all people
    he was even knighted by queen Elizabeth II in 94. long long very long after every one knew particularly the birts how murderous this dude was. which is in keeping with how the brits roll i guess.

    during the 80s the birts couldn't stop falling over themselves in their fawning admiration for the guy..
    Ah yes, the heady days of tribal wives forced to cooking and eating their husband's lips and ears. What a torrid campaign schedule....
    Trust me. The Brits make sure that 5 minutes after they leave, people are saying they wish the Brits were still here. Mugabe filled that bill perfectly however with a mean IQ of 65-70 no one could formulate a correlation.

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    And back to the actual news from the BBC...again more at link but constantly updating and turns into "giant wall of text" if copied..many are tweets...http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41997982

    Zimbabwe's Mugabe 'under house arrest' after army takeover
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    Media captionWhat has happened so far in Zimbabwe?
    Zimbabwe's military has placed President Robert Mugabe under house arrest in the capital Harare, South African President Jacob Zuma says.

    Mr Mugabe told Mr Zuma in a phone call that he was fine, the South African leader's office said.

    Troops are patrolling the capital, Harare, after they seized state TV and said they were targeting "criminals".

    The move may be a bid to replace Mr Mugabe with his sacked deputy, Emmerson Mnangagwa, BBC correspondents say.

    Mr Mnangagwa's dismissal last week left Mr Mugabe's wife Grace as the president's likely successor.as fine."
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    This is an internecine Zanu PF dispute, whether the emerging leader has different policies than Mugabe remains to be seen.........

    At least we haven't got Grace M from the typing pool as prescribed leader...........

    New elections anyone?

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    Hmmm.............


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    Ethiopia ፐwєєተร Retweeted ZANU PF

    #BREAKING NEWS: ROBERT MUGABE OFFICIALLY OUT OF POWER IN #ZIMBABWE!! #Mnangagwa IS THE NEW LEADER OF ZIMBABWE!!! Congratulations to all Zimbabweans! And please #ExtraditeMengistu


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