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HEALTH Madagascar Hospitals On High Alert: ‘No One Is Safe’ From The Black Plague
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post

    - the only question I have is IF he wanted to cause great death and destruction why not let the virus out in the New York Subway, Boston, DC etc right before committing the murder he is accused of?

    Hard to know, but the information just gets weirder and more disturbing the more you look at him and his scientific work.
    easy to understand.

    if he wanted to infect the entire world, the best place to start that would be east africa, not NYC.

    in NYC, if it happened that a few people did come down with the plague, there would be a massive intervention, in a place with first world medical facilities and infrastructure. The availability of antibiotics to treat it would be essentially unlimited, and I have no doubt that it could be stamped out eventually before it spread , with some difficulty (lots of rat, crowded subways, etc) but it could be done. Contact tracing would be no problem.

    Now contrast that with Madagascar. He undoubtedly realized, knowing the infrastructure there, that the odds of it getting out of hand, and eventually spreading to the rest of east africa, would be pretty good. and once in east africa, with its teeming cities full of uneducated, superstitious people, it would explode.

    He probably was/is betting on the fact that the absolute mass of infected people would quickly grow to large to handle, and in short order, spread it to the rest of the world and quickly overwhelm the ability of the system to produce enough antibiotics to treat everyone.

    And, remember, he and his killer partner, planned on killing themselves after they knocked off his boitoi, so that his expert knowledge on how to ameliorate the germ would be lost.

    if the msm ever lets this get out, i would not want to be him.

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    Crappy formatting in the OP...sorry.


    Plague feared to go GLOBAL as death toll rises in 'worst outbreak for 50 YEARS'


    PLAGUE is continuing to spread in the “worst outbreak” in 50 years – but scientists fear the worst is yet to come as it could go global.
    By Henry Holloway / Published 8th November 2017




    Cases have increased by 8% in just a week with nearly 2,000 people infected by the deadly airborne strain.

    Some 143 people have now been killed by the “medieval disease” in Madagascar.

    There are now warnings the plague could stretch across the sea and reach mainland Africa.

    Such an outbreak would be catastrophic and there are fears the virus could go global.



    The plague death toll has risen to 143 in Madagascar. World Health Organization figures show the black death outbreak has now infected 1,947 people in the country off the coast of Africa.


    The airborne pneumonic plague can be spread by coughing, sneezing and spitting.

    It can kill in just 24 hours and is very different from the bubonic plague – which triggered the medieval outbreak known as the “black death”.

    The World Health Organisation (WHO) has said the current outbreak has lasted for six months.


    Emergency disease outbreak expert Professor Paul Hunter revealed fears the plague could reach Africa.

    He told MailOnline: “The big anxiety is it could spread to mainland Africa, it's not probable, but certainly possible, that might then be difficult to control.

    “If we don't carry on doing stuff here, at one point something will happen and it will get out of hand control cause huge devastation all around the world.”

    Previously, another health expert Professor Jimmy Whitworth described the current outbreak as the "worst in 50 years or more".
    MILLIONS dead: the last major flu pandemic

    The last major outbreak of the deadly H1N1 flu virus was in 1918 at the close of WW1. It is estimated that 50-100 million people died – a total of 2-3% of the world's entire population – with 500 million more infected by the lethal strain. To this day, nobody knows what caused the pandemic.


    There are already fears the outbreak could last for another five months as Madagascar enters the rainy season.

    WHO experts revealed they “cannot rule out” the possibility of spikes in cases lasting until April 2018.

    Locals have blamed the outbreak on villagers digging up their ancestors for a ritual known as Famadihana.


    Recent outbreaks of Chloera, Yellow Fever and the Zika Virus have swept the globe. Here are some of the most recent epidemics.
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    Madagascar plague: Government battle to stop disease spreading
    WHO says Madagascar plague is 'especially worrying'
    Expert warns that Black Death plague is spreading across cities

    Christine South, head of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies’ emergency operations, previously revealed fears the plague could spread through planes.

    She said: “With anything like this there is a possibility that somebody could be infected and get on a plane.

    Yesterday, is emergency fatal fever Marburg has killed two in Uganda amid fears of an outbreak.

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    It looks like the revised numbers are now starting to come out. First, an increase from 124 to 147 dead means the KIA is still increasing. Second, the "known" infected increased by about 200, 1800 to roughly 2,000. Out of that 200 increase between 19 and 23 died. Well, that comes to over a 10 percent increase in one week. Obviously, as the actual numbers increase, the total killed and infected will increase. So, we are looking at a 10 percent increase in the people dying, and a 10 percent increase in people being infected.
    These are the "official" numbers and probably do not reflect the actual numbers of people being infected and dying.

    The situation is starting to spiral out of control.
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    Those are the ones they know about. No telling how many are infected/died in their little villages out in the jungles.

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    IF you BELIEVE those FLAGRANTLY FALSE “case, and number of dead” so called statistics I HAVE A BRIDGE IN BROOKLYN you will probably want to buy!

    WE have absolutely NO idea how really badly the pneumonic plague has spread in that region because governments,the WHO, CDC and other organizations have actually dropped a NEWS BLACKOUT on the TRUTH.

    THOSE NUMBERS ARE TOTAL FICTION!
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    The population of Madagascar is about 26 million. More than I would have guessed.
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    Madagascar will be left to rot. Africa will be left to rot. This disease will only be "noticed" when the first cases of airborne vector Black Death break out in New York City, London, Paris of Los Angeles. Up until that point, the whores at WHO, who have done this during all recent disease outbreaks: Ebola in 2014, SARS in China and MERS in Saudi Arabia will keep the siren's song going.

    Again, until there are 100,000 cases in Kenya, or South Africa we will see a near total blackout of information coming out of Madagascar by the WHO et al.

    We have been talking a lot about false flag events, and Black Swans: well the airborne version of the freaking BLACK DEATH is about as big a false flag and Black Swan event as you can get. Further, if all the ranting and raving about the Deagle report, or the elite wanting us down to 500 million or so, has any relation to reality, then this is exactly how you would do it.

    You would get, or allow, a raving lunatic, homosexual, homicidal maniac and stand back and watch what he does when he goes to Madagascar. You would then make sure critical shortages of medical supplies were arranged. You would make sure WHO would lull people to sleep, along with a couple of "on the edge stories" to keep things stirred up.

    We likely right now have 10,000 infected, along with 1,500 dead as I right this. Given the burial practices, the dismal health care system, the only way forward is for things to get worse, and then to spread.

    The last Christmas scenario is starting to look more accurate the closer we get. After all, we have only 7 weeks to New Years, and 7 weeks, in the context of Madagascar is quite long enough to end up with 100,000 dead and 5 million infected. Doom Porn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garryowen View Post
    The population of Madagascar is about 26 million. More than I would have guessed.
    Those numbers will be dropping soon.
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    Things that the powers that be DON'T want you to know (when it comes time for culling the earth's population.)
    SMOKE KILLS GERMS.

    I have heard it said earlier in this thread that smokers seemed to not becoming infected with Plague as easily as non-smokers.
    I believe that is probably TRUE.
    IT is very hard to find any data about what our ANCESTORS KNEW, that smoke would preserve meat because it inhibited germ growth!

    I DID find this GOVERNMENT RESEARCH though;

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/843645
    The effect of chronic exposure to tobacco smoke on the antibacterial defenses of the lung.
    Huber GL, Pochay VE, Mahajan VK, McCarthy CR, Hinds WC, Davies P, Drath DB, Sornberger GC.
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    To evaluate the effects of cigarette smoking on the host defenses of the lung, male CD rats were exposed to fresh whole smoke for up to 60 consecutive days. Intrapulmonary deposition of smoke and animal exposure levels, quantified with decachlorobiphenyl and other smoke tracers, indicated a daily cigarette exposure equivalent to approximately a pack and a half per day in man. Pulmonary alveolar macrophage function in situ was quantified by the inactivation of an aerosolized challenge of Staphylococcus aureus six hours after inoculation. Controls (n=120) inactivated 88.8+/-0.64% of the staphylococci. Exposure to whole smoke did not impair intrapulmonary antistaphylococcal defenses, with inactivation rates of 89.8+/-0.97% (n=49) and 89.1+/-0.46% (n=74) at 30 and 60 days, respectively. Inactivation distribution frequency analysis in controls revealed that 7% of animals had inactivation values greater than two standard deviations from the mean. With prolonged exposure mean with less skewing towards the abnormal. Alveolar macrophages harvested from smoked animals were comparable in viability and in vitro antistaphylococcal activity to controls, appeared to be metabolically activated and had specific stereologic ultrastructural alterations. These studies indicate that chronic exposure to tobacco smoke does not impair, and in fact may stimulate, the host defenses of the lung, as evaluated by in vivo and in vitro pulmonary alveolar macrophage function.

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    Medicinal smoke reduces airborne bacteria.
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    This study represents a comprehensive analysis and scientific validation of our ancient knowledge about the effect of ethnopharmacological aspects of natural products' smoke for therapy and health care on airborne bacterial composition and dynamics, using the Biolog microplate panels and Microlog database. We have observed that 1h treatment of medicinal smoke emanated by burning wood and a mixture of odoriferous and medicinal herbs (havan sámagri=material used in oblation to fire all over India), on aerial bacterial population caused over 94% reduction of bacterial counts by 60 min and the ability of the smoke to purify or disinfect the air and to make the environment cleaner was maintained up to 24h in the closed room. Absence of pathogenic bacteria Corynebacterium urealyticum, Curtobacterium flaccumfaciens, Enterobacter aerogenes (Klebsiella mobilis), Kocuria rosea, Pseudomonas syringae pv. persicae, Staphylococcus lentus, and Xanthomonas campestris pv. tardicrescens in the open room even after 30 days is indicative of the bactericidal potential of the medicinal smoke treatment. We have demonstrated that using medicinal smoke it is possible to completely eliminate diverse plant and human pathogenic bacteria of the air within confined space.

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    The interesting thing about the news articles is they are still using medical data from going on nearly two weeks ago. This article is a fine example of stirring the pot, all the while adding virtually no new data from late October. I have found they are releasing the information in dribs and drabs. If you look at each story, you will find one additional tidbit in each one. The tidbit in this particular story, even though they are still using two week old medical data, is the admission they have lost control of the bodies and people are being infected from this dance of the dead nonsense. Further, it reconfirms that many people are refusing to go to the hospitals, BUT SOMEHOW THE INFECTED AND DEAD RATE IS ONLY INCREASING BY 8 PERCENT. I mean don't they realize people with IQ's above 50 read the articles?



    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...orne-Pneumonic

    Plague outbreak feared OUT OF CONTROL as police forced to SEIZE infected bodies

    AN OUTBREAK of plague is feared to become out of control as families are refusing to hand over infectious bodies and victims are avoiding doctors.



    Madagascar remains ravaged by the pneumonic plague that is believed to have killed more than 143 people across the African island.

    Cases have risen by 8% in just one week and scientists frantically working to make sure the airborne infection doesn’t spread to mainland Africa.

    Aid workers on the ground have now revealed their battle with the plague.

    They spoke out about how some families are refusing to hand over infected bodies, and other victims are refusing to go to the doctor.

    Nine countries are now on high alert amid fears the plague could go global.

    The last major outbreak of the deadly H1N1 flu virus was in 1918 at the close of WW1. It is estimated that 50-100 million people died – a total of 2-3% of the world's entire population – with 500 million more infected by the lethal strain. To this day, nobody knows what caused the pandemic.
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    Well thanksgiving is coming up here in the states and tens of millions of people will be traveling. Many foreign students will go back to their respective countries for the break week, many american students will travel abroad during that week, and God only knows what they will be bringing back with them when they return.
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    http://allafrica.com/stories/201711100489.html

    Africa: Malawi Prepares for 'Black Death' Deadly Plague - 'Worst Outbreak in 50 Years' and It's Still Spreading

    By Osman Faiti
    Malawi is on alert for any possible incident of the deadly airborne plague though it has been identified as one of the hotspots by the World Health Organization as priority countries to get ready to defend against the black death, its neighours are at risk amongys nine countries who has been placed on high alert, Ministry of Health has said.

    The plague described as 'the worst in 50 years', has spread through coughing, sneezing or spitting and can kill within 24 hours.
    It is in Madagascar, has now killed 143 people and infected 1,947 people and it is continuing to spread.

    South Africa, Mauritius, Seychelles, Tanzania, La Réunion, Mozambique, Kenya, Ethiopia and Comoros have all been put on notice.

    Principal Secretary in the Ministry of Health, Dr Dan Namarika said with "porus borders" the country could be at risk, assuring that the Ministry is on high alert and on top of things.

    He said Malawi has "cross border teams that interface with our Mozambique counterparts."

    Namalika said the Ministry of Health would highlight to clinicians throughout the country on the symptoms of the plague.

    Plague symptoms include sudden fevers, head and body aches, vomiting and nausea.

    "We have infection prevention materials ready and groups and teams redy to be activated if there is a trigger," said Namarika.

    The World Health Organisation has earmarked Ł3.8m to combat disease and predicts it could take six months to stem the outbreak.

    The plaque reportedly hit Malawi in 2002 but was contained .The new strain of the plague can be treated with antibiotics and the WHO cash will pay for extra medical personnel, the disinfection of buildings and fuel for ambulances.

    Professor Johnjoe McFadden, a molecular geneticist at Surrey University, said: 'It's a crisis at the moment and we don't know how bad it's going to get. 'It's a terrible disease. It's broadly caused more deaths of humans than anything else, it's a very deadly pathogen.'

    He added: 'It is a disease of poverty where humans are being forced to live very close to rats and usually means poor sewage and poor living conditions. 'That's the root cause of why it's still a problem in the world. If we got rid of rats living close enough to mankind then we wouldn't have the disease.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinecone View Post
    Those are the ones they know about. No telling how many are infected/died in their little villages out in the jungles.

    Important ^^^

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    The true nature of the threat is starting to be revealed by the powers that be. Clearly, the in the full CYA mode and preparing people for a global pandemic. I will also note they just raised the "total infected," from 1800 to 2000 people. Again, this is a ten percent increase in a little over two or three days.

    The link is here.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...-global-spread

    MILLIONS at risk as fears Black Death plague may MUTATE and become UNTREATABLE

    THE deadly plague outbreak could become untreatable if the virus mutates, it has been warned.



    The death toll from Madagascar has reached 143 with a total of 2,000 infected as it rapidly spreads through the African nation.

    Health officials have warned this is the “worst outbreak in 50 years”.

    And disease experts have said that if virus mutates, the epidemic will get much worse.

    Speaking to Daily Star Online, disease outbreak expert Professor Paul Hunter said that the disease could be contained if it arrived in Europe but the worry would be if the plague became resistant to antibiotics.

    It is also spreading further and faster than people have been led to believe. The addition of a tenth country is disturbing to say the least.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...?ITO=applenews

    Plague fears grow as Malawi becomes tenth African nation put on alert for the spread of the killer disease

    At least 143 people have died of the plague following an outbreak in Madagascar
    Another 2,000 people have been infected since the spread in August this year
    Malawi's Dr Dan Namarika warned 'porous borders' may help spread the disease
    The last reported case of the plague in Malawi were reported in 2002
    Malawi is bracing itself for an outbreak of the plague after the deadly disease continues to spread across the island nation of Madagascar.

    At least 143 people have died and more than 2,000 others have been infected in Madagascar since an outbreak in early August this year.

    Yet Malawi's health secretary confirmed the country is ready for any reported cases of the disease amid mounting concerns of Africa's 'porous borders'.

    Dr Dan Namarika, principal secretary in the ministry of health, said the country were working in conjunction with Mozambique to help best prepare for a possible outbreak.
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    "And disease experts have said that if virus mutates, the epidemic will get much worse."

    Well shit! If it mutates into a virus, we will be truly fooked.
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  17. Referring to the dailystar.co.uk story posted above:

    Charlotte Ikonen, the author, says: "And disease experts have said that if virus mutates, the epidemic will get much worse." What kind of "disease expert" would say that the plague is caused by viruses, rather than (as is the case) bacteria? What kind of reporter does not know this basic fact about the plague?

    Errors like that cause me to doubt the Daily Star story.

    Please note: I am not aiming this at Doomer Doug. He is continuing his diligent and valuable search for news stories, and passes on what he finds ... it's up to us to assess how good each news source is.

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    Yeah, confusing the Black Death BACTERIA WITH A VIRUS IS A PRETTY BIG FAIL. Still, I have noted that the updates are few and far between. The reason I posted this specific story is, hidden in the weeds, was the admission the number of infected rose from 1800 to 2000 in a very short time frame.
    The way you end up with a regional pandemic, and then a global pandemic, is you start to see a sustained rate of increase. Eventually, that will lead to huge absolute numbers of dead and infected. The way you end up with 100,000 infected, is to rise 200 or so every three or four days. The plague season in Madagascar ends in April, nearly six months from now. Even assuming it doesn't spread to the other 10 countries, which I don't, you will increase 200 every three or four days; then, you will increase by 500, then 1,000, then 3,000 and pretty soon you are in the fecal material.
    I have been watching this plague situation unfold in Madagascar since Early October. They have gone from 300 infected to over 2000 in a little over one month, since October 15th. If you carry that out for another six months, you are going to have tens of thousands infected, and maybe several hundred thousand infected.

    Yep, the medical situation is now out of control. If it wasn't, then total infected would either be going down, or increasing at a much lower rate.
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    I will note a couple of other things. The first is the speed of the Madagascar epidemic is speeding up. The official numbers at the end of October, not even two weeks ago were 124 dead and around 1200 infected. The various data I listed are scattered around in multiple, separate articles that have only one new piece of information in them. One article gives the total infected and death rate. One article talks about shortages of medical supplies. Another talks about the "Dance of Death." Another one talks about people avoiding hospitals.

    Now, if over the last two weeks the number of "known" infected rises by 800, from 1200 to 2,000; yet, the number of "known" dead goes from 124 to 143 or so, even using their own previous statistical data, it is clear they are seriously underreporting the actual dead.

    An increase from 1200 to 2000 is almost a 66 percent increase. If you use the killed percentage they used as recently as two weeks ago, you have a kill rate between 7 and 10 percent.

    Using their own data, this means that 80 out of the "new" total of 800 would have died. This would raise the 124 to over 200 now dead. Yet, "they" keep using the two week old data for deaths.

    Yep, the situation is a lot worse than we are being told and "they" are faking the data to prevent a panic. I would also say that in my opinion the disease has already spread to some, or even all of the other countries. The mere fact they added the tenth country presumes they have some medical justification for doing that. The justification, basic logic tells me, is the disease has spread into the other countries and they are covering that up.

    The "real" numbers are, in my opinion over 200 dead and over 2000 infected.
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    Weren't we all suppose to die from Ebola in 2014? Hell I was in DFW a day after Thomas Dunn flew in who was infected and died. I was told here that anyone at the airport was gonna get ebola and were gonna die. I am still here and I think this is being overblown just like ebola was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
    Weren't we all suppose to die from Ebola in 2014? Hell I was in DFW a day after Thomas Dunn flew in who was infected and died. I was told here that anyone at the airport was gonna get ebola and were gonna die. I am still here and I think this is being overblown just like ebola was.
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    South Africa has a very large percentage of its population being of Indian descent.
    If it does get to SA, you can pretty much bet that Indians visiting relatives in India will drag it there...and then....
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Traveler View Post
    Weren't we all suppose to die from Ebola in 2014? Hell I was in DFW a day after Thomas Dunn flew in who was infected and died. I was told here that anyone at the airport was gonna get ebola and were gonna die. I am still here and I think this is being overblown just like ebola was.
    Are you kidding me? This thing is almost killing more people per month than people being shoot in Chicago per month. Sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warm Wisconsin View Post
    Are you kidding me? This thing is almost killing more people per month than people being shoot in Chicago per month. Sarcasm
    Isn't Chicago shooting deaths kinda like our benchmark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Profit of Doom View Post
    Isn't Chicago shooting deaths kinda like our benchmark?
    Wellllll

    It is a measure of the other African plague.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwright View Post
    Wellllll

    It is a measure of the other African plague.
    Hmmm. We’re did the emoji go that had “the ten foot pole”. Lol

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    5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said, 6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.” 7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?” 8 He replied: “Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them. 9 When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away.” 10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.

    11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

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    Sigh, Ebola was a virus and this is a bacteria. This is spread by the airborne vector, coughing, sneezing and breathing contaminated air. Ebola required close contact with infected bodily fluids, like blood.
    The ONE CASE that actually was diagnosed in the USA was the guy who went to his girlfriend's apartment. Nobody got infected in that apartment since he kept to a separate bedroom. IF HE HAD THE PLAGUE BACTERIA EVERY PERSON IN THAT APARTMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN INFECTED AND DEAD WITHIN 72 HOURS.

    Once this disease starts spreading into the crowded, filthy African cities, you will find out how easy it will be to catch it. South Africa has millions of people already infected with the AIDS virus. They will drop like flies if they are exposed to the Black Death bacteria.
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    I have been taught that all disease needs point of entry to body, sufficient number of pathogens to take hold, and susceptibility to infection. We all know that person that never seems to get sick.

    Has there been any research on how a bug like plague will fare in a healthy well nourished population vs. an opiate addict or people that eat nothing but processed junkfood?

    I know Spanish flu seemed to target the healthy.

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    Doug already said this but I will say it again; Ebola and The Black Plague are not spread the same way (at least not now) and are two different types of disease.

    The only way "everyone in the airport" would get Ebola would be if it had actually mutated in people the way it had in monkies to go FULLY airborne; as opposed to what it ACTUALLY seems to have done which was to mutate enough that people in the same room, exposed to microscopic particles that can be injected by sneezing, coughing, vomiting etc can get sick.

    Scary as heck from a medical viewpoint (especially since we know Ebola CAN mutate to become fully airborne in the case of monkeys anyway) and it gave the Powers that Be, an "out" they could say that with a straight face it wasn't "airborne" meaning it didn't continue to LIVE as a LIVE virus (or bacteria) directly in the air; but what it did do was mutate so that it was more directly contagious to those in the same room; meaning that hospital workers not in proper level 4 gear were essentially sitting ducks (but not the folks at the airport or not most of them).

    The various forms of Black Death especially the AIRBORNE form that is becoming an epidemic in Madagascar IS a FULLY airborne disease; not only that it rides alongside the two other forms - the one spread by fleas and the one that gets into the blood and causes blood poisoning.

    While I don't want to be encouraging panic; this form of the disease really COULD infect everyone on an airplane and a good number of people at an airport; some Northern Europeans and a few Africans will have some natural immunity (for some reason science hasn't figure out both HIV which is a virus and the Black Death are protected against by the same human mutation) but most people can't count on that.

    Plus a number of Europeans only have a half-copy of the gene that provides natural immunity meaning they can get sick (or even carry) the HIV Virus or they can catch the Plague but they have a better chance of survival (but they can still die).

    So, while again, this is early days and it isn't time to scream and run in circles yet; this is NOT Ebola and I would not take comfort from the fact that Ebola did not do the damage that some expected; it is also true that the world is probably more in danger from a killer flu than the Black Death; but that doesn't mean it isn't important to pay attention to both.
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    Here is some more info. I find it interesting that they keep using the same numbers from over two weeks ago. I also find it interesting that they keep hammering the ideal of a global pandemic and a further spread. So, "they" keep hinting at a global pandemic, while, at the same time, they keep saying everything is currently hunky dory. They know something they are not admitting otherwise they wouldn't keep hinting at a global pandemic.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/489683...e-untreatable/

    BLACK DEATH WARNING Fears deadly plague that has killed 140 people in Madagascar could mutate and become untreatable

    Health protection expert says it is possible for disease to spread to Europe and North America like Ebola did in 2014.
    By George Sandeman.
    12th November 2017, 12:40 pm
    Updated: 12th November 2017, 1:11 pm


    A MEDICAL expert has warned that a plague, which has already killed 140 people in Madagascar, could mutate and become untreatable.

    Professor Paul Hunter also said it was possible for the disease to reach Europe and North America like the Ebola virus did in 2014 following an outbreak in West Africa.
    Red Cross officials work in Antananarivo, Madagascar, where the plague has struck

    Hunter, who lectures in health protection at the University of East Anglia, said: "As with any disease, it's a real worry that it mutates and become untreatable."

    He told the Daily Star: "If it reaches the UK, Europe or the US it would be similar to the Ebola outbreak.

    "We would probably have a few isolated cases but it shouldn’t spread like it has in Madagascar."

    The island, located off the southeastern coast of Africa, has seen 143 of its citizens from over 2,000 people infected.
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    Well, this isn't good news. Like I said before, there is a process involved in getting a full bore global pandemic underway. You have to have specific things happen. You have to have them happen in a sequential manner. You have to have both a geographic spread of the disease. You have to have an increase in the speed the disease grows, in terms of absolute numbers and percentage increases from the base on a weekly and monthly basis. All of this is starting to happen regarding the Black Death Airborne Plague now raging on Madagascar.

    We were told the number of dead increased first from 124 to 143. Now we are being told the actual number is now 165. The entire increase of 41 has happened in the last two weeks, roughly from Halloween. THE TOTAL INCREASE OF 41 IS ONE THIRD OF ALL CASES, 124, THAT EXISTED TWO WEEKS AGO. THIS MEANS WE CAN EXPECT A 60 PLUS PERCENT INCREASE PER MONTH FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT TWO TO FOUR WEEKS.

    And yes, it takes a while to build momentum. If I am correct, the 41 increase will become 55, and then the next amount will be 71, and the one after that will be 100 new dead. If you do the math, you can see where this is headed over the next six months. OF course, this assumes the airborne version doesn't spread into any of the 10 African countries, much less hitch a ride on an airplane and end up in Paris, or London, or New York City.

    Yep, it is playing out like I thought it would. The disease base is building in terms of people dying and being infected. It will probably take until April to get the kind of numbers the media will finally notice. By then, we will be dealing with hundreds of thousands of infected, along with hundreds, maybe thousands/tens of thousands dead in Madagascar alone. And if/when the airborne version starts to spread to South Africa, or Kenya it won't stop there.

    The link below is the kind of pulling teeth method the powers that be have adopted in terms of releasing information. I will note that although they increased the killed by 41, to 165 from 124, they left the revised 2000 infected alone. They are saying that already the killed are increasing at a rate of 33 percent, the infected is staying the same. Obviously, this is simply not true.

    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...reak-US-Europe



    After Daily Star Online reported the disease ravaging Madagascar has killed 143 people, the deadly plague has now claimed 165.

    And with at least another 2,000 being infected, fears of a global outbreak has doubled after the World Health Organisation’s latest update.

    Officials at the world health body have now admitted there is a real risk the disease could spread to Europe, the US and across the globe.



    They are pinning their hopes, however, on a range of emergency measures being put in place to stop this from happening.

    The above statement is at best, wishful thinking; at worst, intentional deception.



    A spokesman for the WHO said, although the growth in the number of cases is slowing down, they now fear a series of devastating “flare ups”.


    The spokesman said: “While the number of new cases and hospitalizations due to plague is declining in Madagascar, WHO cannot rule out the possibility of flare ups of additional cases until the typical plague season ends in April 2018, and thus recommends maintaining vigilance until then. SERIOUSLY? THE DATA JUST CONFIRMED THE RATE OF DEATH IS INCREASING IN TERMS OF NUMBERS OF DEAD AND INFECTED, AS THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASE IS ALSO. I MEAN DO THEY THINK I CAN'T READ THE ARTICLE?

    “Based on available information and response measures implemented to date, the potential risk of further spread of plague at national level remains high.

    “The risk of international spread is mitigated by the short incubation period of pneumonic plague, implementation of exit screening measures and advice to travelers to Madagascar, and scaling up of preparedness and operational readiness activities in neighbouring Indian Ocean islands and other southern and east African countries.”
    This disease – which can kill in just 24 hours – has sparked global panic especially as a similar outbreak of Black Death killed off one third of medieval Europe – and that was a staggering 50 million people.

    The latest disease is a more virulent form that spreads through coughing, sneezing or spitting and is almost always fatal if untreated.
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  34. Thanks, Doug, for keeping us all up to date on this situation. Very appreciated.

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    Thank you, Doug. Your analysis really helps to show just how dangerous the situation is. Watching very closely here.

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    At this point, I've been wondering the opposite.
    Perhaps the disease is fizzling out, but the .org's involved want the money to keep coming?

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    Thanks. I pick and choose which disasters I want to commit some time to keep track off. The first one was Fukushima way back in March of 2011. The thread may even still be somewhere in the bowels of timebomb.

    My "gut feeling" on this Madagascar Plague is the worst case scenario, whether it ever happens or not, is the kind of doomer porn that thrives here. At any rate, after watching "the health powers that be" in action during the Ebola outbreak back in 2014, I am not optimistic.

    Again, in case anybody reading this thread hasn't had the key difference between Ebola and this Plague bacteria cattle branded on their foreheads: THE PLAGUE IN MADAGASCAR IS A BACTERIA THAT IS SPREAD AIRBORNE VECTOR VS EBOLA WHICH WAS A VIRUS AND VERY DIFFICULT TO GET, UNLESS YOU DID CRAZY ASS AFRICAN DEATH RITUAL #%%%.

    If we ever see a situation with this black death airborne bacteria, like we did with the African guy who had Ebola and died in the apartment in Houston, it is game over. The airborne version in that apartment complex would have eventually killed 100,000 people in Houston alone once it got going.

    Faroe, if that was the case, they would be howling from the rooftops about it. Nope, they are trying to keep people from panicking right now, while repeating constantly that there is a global pandemic threat. The reason for that is they studied the history of what happened to the elites, the church, and the feudal lords right after the Black Death. If the scarred survivors of the global pandemic, the one the WHO et al, said was no big deal, well we will see the elite, the ones that don't get sick, swinging from highway underpass bridges. The elite may even think they can use this disease to thin out the peons. The Black Death proved that the ones on top in 1348 wern't on top a decade or two later.
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    One of the things that happened to the surviving elites after the Black Death in the 14th century is they tried in vain to hold wages and the traditions of serfs being tied to the land (aka basically slaves with benefits) and that failed miserably.

    With lots of empty houses, craft shops (blacksmithing, weaving, pottery, etc) lying empty with tools down, even entire empty estates and farms (often still inherited but by second cousins twice removed) workers stepped up the already on-going calls for wages rather than payment in labor for their holdings and if they didn't get them they just up and left.

    There was already a tradition (in many places law) that an escaped serf who spent a year in a city was a free man (or women) in the past this had been a way for the extremely motivated individuals to get out and perhaps eventually become a small business holder, professional soldier or other non-serf occupation.

    After the Black Death, this happen en mass and combined with the invention of the printing press in the next century; it helped give birth to the modern world.

    Oh, and some of those elites were reduced to PLowing Their Own Fields (aka doing their own heavy labor) ....hmmm
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    Latest WHO report:
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    2119 confirmed, probable and suspected cases since 01 Aug
    of which 1618 are classified as pulmonary

    171 deaths

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    Does anyone know if the pneumonic plague in Madagascar the same as the Chikungunya pneumonic plague that was going on in Italy last summer?
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