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ALERT The Winds of War Blow in Korea and The Far East
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  1. #4681
    Apparently it was a submarine launched ballistic missile. j

    Photos & links at source....
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    DPRK says it successfully tested new submarine-launched ballistic missile
    China Daily | Updated: 2019-10-04 09:36

    SEOUL - The Democratic People's Republic said on Thursday it had successfully test-fired a new submarine-launched ballistic missile, or SLBM, from the sea to contain external threats and bolster self-defense, ahead of fresh nuclear talks with the United States.

    DPRK's top leader Kim Jong-un "sent warm congratulations" to the defense scientists who conducted the test, according to the state KCNA news agency, indicating he did not attend the launch as he had at previous tests of new weapons systems.

    The new type of SLBM, called Pukguksong-3, was "fired in vertical mode" in the waters off the eastern city of Wonsan, KCNA said, confirming an assessment by the Republic of Korea's military on Wednesday that the missile was launched on a lofted trajectory.

    "The successful new-type SLBM test-firing comes to be of great significance as it ushered in a new phase in containing the outside forces' threat to the DPRK and further bolstering its military muscle for self-defense," KCNA said.

    A US State Department spokeswoman called on Pyongyang to "refrain from provocations" and to remain committed to nuclear negotiations.

    DPRK and US officials are scheduled to meet on Saturday to restart diplomacy on how to end nuclear crisis on the Korean Peninsula.

    Pyongyang fired the missile hours after announcing it would resume talks with the United States by holding working-level negotiations.

    Photos released in the DPRK's official Rodong Sinmun newspaper, whose front two pages featured the test, showed a black-andwhite painted missile clearing the surface of the water, then the rocket engine igniting to propel it into the sky.

    Kim Dong-yub, an analyst from Seoul's Institute for Far Eastern Studies, wrote on Facebook that the missile was likely fired from a barge built for an underwater launch. He said the missile is under development and that Pyongyang must test-fire it from a submarine before deploying it.

    ROK's Defense Ministry said the DRPK missile traveled about 450 kilometers at a maximum altitude of 910 kilometers. The ministry officials said the missile flew higher than any other short-range weapons the DPRK had test-fired in recent months.

    KCNA said the missile was launched in a vertical mode and that its test had no adverse impact on the security of neighboring countries.
    Thoughts are things. Thus I'm careful of the thoughts I think, & the company I keep.
    She couldn't keep her colors inside the lines, so she drew new lines.

  2. #4682
    Putin: Russia helps China build missile warning system

    By The Associated Press
    MOSCOW — October 4, 2019, 2:17 AM ET

    Russian President Vladimir Putin says Moscow is helping China build a system warning about ballistic missile launches.

    Since Cold War times, only the United States and Russia have had such systems, which involve an array of ground-based radars and space satellites.

    The system is essential for early spotting of intercontinental ballistic missiles.

    Speaking at an international affairs conference Thursday, Putin said that Russia has been helping China develop such a system.

    He added that “this is a very serious thing that will radically enhance China’s defense capability.”

    His statement signaled a new level of defense cooperation between the two former Communist rivals, which have developed increasingly close political and military ties.

  3. #4683
    ELINT News

    #BREAKING: Top North Korea nuclear envoy says working-level talks with US break down- Yonhap
    Thoughts are things. Thus I'm careful of the thoughts I think, & the company I keep.
    She couldn't keep her colors inside the lines, so she drew new lines.

  4. #4684
    Where did DPRK get cold launch SLBM launching technology? The gas generators are pretty standard fare, but how and where did they pick up seal technology? The Poseidon (and probably Trident used styrofoam wiper seals to keep the launch compartment dry; does DPRK even make styrofoam? They make tons of vinylene but styrofoam?

    And Russia building a BMEWS system for China? We need to drive a stake in that cooperative effort. The Russian BMEWS system is good but not to the quality of the US system. But, with China with a system too quantity takes the place of quality and they could have us boresighted in just on the basis of numbers of systems.

  5. #4685
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaMan View Post
    Where did DPRK get cold launch SLBM launching technology? The gas generators are pretty standard fare, but how and where did they pick up seal technology? The Poseidon (and probably Trident used styrofoam wiper seals to keep the launch compartment dry; does DPRK even make styrofoam? They make tons of vinylene but styrofoam?

    And Russia building a BMEWS system for China? We need to drive a stake in that cooperative effort. The Russian BMEWS system is good but not to the quality of the US system. But, with China with a system too quantity takes the place of quality and they could have us boresighted in just on the basis of numbers of systems.
    Probably a combination of buying the tech, being "given it" by "friends", espionage and throwing a butt load of engineers at the task.

    Looking at the images of that test launch I've got to wonder if it's MIRV'd......

  6. #4686
    China Launches HD Satellite To Monitor Belt And Road Projects

    by Tyler Durden
    Zero Hedge
    Saturday, 10/05/2019 - 20:30

    On Saturday, China launched an observation satellite into space that will soon monitor its Belt and Road projects around the world. The satellite, which according to Xinhua will be called Gaofen-10, was launched early Saturday morning aboard a Long March 4C orbital carrier rocket from the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center in Northern China.

    Gaofen-10 is a high-definition (HD) microwave remote sensing satellite that is part of the China High-resolution Earth Observation System (CHEOS) that will be activated by 2020.

    The satellite is capable of taking HD photographs with a resolution of about one meter. In total, CHEOS will have seven optical/microwave satellites that will be used in "land survey, urban planning, and road network designs" along the Belt and Road, reported Xinhuanet

    The Belt and Road is China's ambitious infrastructure investment plan that is currently constructing railways, energy pipelines, and highways in 152 countries, that could soon become the world's future economic system.

    Gaofen-10 will orbit at 370 to 430 miles above Earth and will have a life span of 5-8 years. It was reported that the Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology developed the satellite, and China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation built the rocket.

    China's goal of deploying a network of HD satellites to monitor its Belt and Road projects could become a reality next year.

  7. #4687
    From: China Launches HD Satellite To Monitor Belt And Road Projects

  8. #4688
    dafeng cao
    þ @dafengcao
    Sep 30

    Photos taken from above, WZ-8 high altitude, high speed unmanned recon vehicle,

  9. #4689
    dafeng cao
    þ @dafengcao
    Sep 30

    WZ-8 from rear view
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  10. #4690
    Chuck Pfarrer
    ‏ @ChuckPfarrer
    Oct 1

    CHINA: The PRC hand picked 30,000 spectators to observe the military parade that marked the 70th anniversary of the People's Republic of China. One of yesterday's spectators was Carrie Lam, the embattled leader of Hong Kong.

  11. #4691
    Trump Rids Major U.S. Container Port of Chinese Communist Control

    October 08, 2019
    Judicial Watch

    Under a long-term deal sealed by the Obama administration, a Chinese Communist company was set to control the second-busiest container port in the United States. In an unreported Trump administration victory, the Communists are out after a drawn-out national security review forced a unit of China-based COSCO Shipping Holdings Co. (Orient Overseas Container Line—OOCL) to sell the cherished container terminal business, which handles among the largest freight of imports into the U.S.

    It all started with a 40-year container terminal lease between the Port of Long Beach in southern California and Hong Kong. The Obama administration proudly signed the agreement in 2012 giving China control of America’s second-largest container port behind the nearby Port of Los Angeles. One of the Trump administration’s first big moves was to get the Communists out of the Port of Long Beach. After a national security review and federal intervention, the Long Beach terminal business, which handles millions of containers annually, is finally being sold to an Australian company called Macquarie Infrastructure Partners. That essentially kills China’s decades-long contract with the Obama administration.

    The deal never should have been signed in the first place considering the facility’s size, significance and the national security issues associated with a hostile foreign government controlling it. The southern California port is the premier U.S. gateway for trans-Pacific trade, according to its website, and handles trade valued at more than $194 billion annually. It is one of the few ports that can accommodate the world’s largest vessels and serves 140 shipping lines with connections to 217 seaports around the world. The facility encompasses 3,200 acres with 31 miles of waterfront, 10 piers, 62 berths and 68 post-Panamax gantry cranes. In 2018, the Long Beach port handled more than 8 million container units, achieving the busiest year in its history.

    Removing Chinese Communists from this essential port is a tremendous feat and a huge victory for U.S. national security. You’d never know it because the media, consumed with the impeachment debacle, has ignored this important achievement. The only coverage of the finalized transfer is found in Long Beach’s local newspaper, which published a brief article omitting important background information on the Trump administration’s work to take back the terminal from the Communists. The story makes it seem like a regular business transaction in which “a Chinese state-owned company, reached a deal to sell the terminal, one of the busiest in the port, for $1.78 billion.” The piece also quotes the Port of Long Beach’s deputy executive director saying that the transaction process was intricate and involved one of “our most valuable port assets.” Buried at the bottom of the article is a sentence mentioning that the U.S. government, which regulates mergers for antitrust and security reasons, stepped in and required COSCO to sell its rights to the container terminal.

    In the last few years China has bought cargo ports throughout the world, including in Latin America, the Indian Ocean and Mediterranean Sea. Chinese-owned ports are located in Greece, Italy, Spain and other European locations. In sub-Saharan Africa there are dozens of existing or planned port projects funded or operated by China, according to a study that highlights the threat the Chinese investments present to U.S. influence in the region. One troubling analysis points out that “COSCO’s commercial expansion has created leverage for Beijing — leverage that has already resulted in countries that host COSCO ports adopting China’s position on key international issues.”

  12. #4692
    Holger Zschaepitz
    þ @Schuldensuehner
    21h21 hours ago

    The US-China relationship is swiftly deteriorating by the day. US visa move against Beijing casts pall over talks to end trade war. #IMF sees 'synchronized slowdown' due to trade war.
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    South Korea Considers Building Large Aircraft Carriers As Country Prepares To Buy More F-35s

    As the security situation in the region erodes, the carrier question becomes more pressing for Seoul.

    By Joseph Trevithick
    October 11, 2019

    A senior South Korean lawmaker has said the country should reconsider proposals for acquiring either light or medium aircraft carriers with Catapult Assisted Take-Off Barrier Arrested Recovery, or CATOBAR, configurations to respond to growing regional security threats. These were alternatives to South Korea's reported decision to purchase a number of large amphibious assault ships capable of supporting fixed-wing short takeoff and vertical landing combat jets, namely the F-35B Joint Strike Fighter. This call for reassessing that choice comes as the South Korean Ministry of Defense may be leaning toward acquiring 20 more conventional F-35A models rather than B variants, further deferring plans to develop a fixed-wing naval aviation capability.

    Choi Jae Sung, a member of South Korea's leading Democratic Party, who reportedly has a close relationship with President Moon Jae In, made his pitch for buying more traditional aircraft carriers in a white paper that the National Assembly's National Defense Commission on the Navy and Air Force distributed earlier this year, according to South Korean newspaper Money Today. On Oct. 7, 2019, the country's Defense Acquisition Program Administration told the National Assembly that the Ministry of Defense was planning to spend approximately $3.3 billion on around 20 new F-35s, but did not specify the variant, according to Defense News.

    South Korea Kicks Off Development Of A New Amphibious Ship Designed To Carry F-35BsBy Joseph Trevithick Posted in The War Zone

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    U.S. Sells Seized North Korean Freighter As Pyongyang Threatens Nuke And Missile TestsBy Joseph Trevithick Posted in The War Zone

    North Korea Tests Submarine Launched Missile In First Launch Of Its Kind In Three Years (Updated)By Joseph Trevithick Posted in The War Zone

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    Choi's report included details on the two CATOBAR aircraft carrier concepts that the South Koreans have previously considered. One of these would be almost 978 feet long and displace approximately 71,400 tons, around the same general size as China's Type 001A carrier, which has a Short Take-Off Barrier-Arrested Recovery (STOBAR) configuration with a ski jump rather than catapults. The other proposal was around 41,500 tons displacement and just under 788 feet long, making it just slightly smaller than France's Charles de Gaulle, which does have a CATOBAR configuration.

    The larger of the two designs would have a full crew complement of 1,340, not including members of the air wing, which would consist of 32 fixed-wing combat jets and eight helicopters. The smaller carrier concept would only need half as many crew members, but would only trim back the number of fixed-wing aircraft to just 12. For comparison, Charles de Gaulle with its 1,350 crew typically sails with an air wing with another 600 personnel and at least 28 aircraft and helicopters, including E-2C Hawkeye airborne early warning and control aircraft.
    Choi Jae Sung’s office

    A Korean language infographic regarding two CATOBAR aircraft carrier proposals from a report South Korean lawmaker Choi Jae Sung.

    Money Today's report did not include any additional information about what other systems, including radars or self-defense suites, that South Korean officials might have been considering for these ships. It is also worth noting that at present, only two other countries in the world, the United States and France, operate CATOBAR carriers.

    Brazil formally retired its CATOBAR carrier, the São Paulo, in 2017, and put her up for auction last month. China is reportedly considering constructing its future Type 002 and Type 003 carriers in this configuration. The People's Liberation Army Navy's existing carrier Liaoning, as well as the aforementioned new Type 001A, which has not formally entered service and that experts say may be experiencing complications of some kind, both use ski jumps rather than catapults. China's developments were a major driver in Choi's call for larger South Korean carriers.

    "In view of the current military expansion rate of major Northeast Asian countries, the future battlefield in 2033 will be very different from what it is now," Choi wrote. "You should review your plan changes."

    In July 2019, reports had emerged that South Korea was moving forward with a plan to develop a 30,000-ton displacement amphibious assault ship, known as the LPH-II, with a ski jump that could potentially support more robust fixed-wing combat jet operations. Choi had complained that "tactical limitations are a concern" even with the proposed 41,500-ton displacement light carrier, adding that he felt a ship that size might not even be suitable for a CATOBAR configuration. Of course, France's Charles de Gaulle would suggest otherwise.

    The U.S. Navy has been faced with similar questions regarding fixed-wing focused concepts of operation for its existing Wasp class amphibious assault ships, even though these ships displace 10,000 tons more than the proposed LPH-II. You can read more about the various factors involved in this past War Zone piece.

    Choi also noted that the decision not to pursue true carriers now could have impacts on how long it might take to acquire suitable aircraft, such as the carrier-specific F-35C, which is only in service with the U.S. Navy at present, should South Korea change course in the future. As noted, the country's Ministry of Defense is looking to buy an additional 20 F-35s, but has not decided on what variant to buy, in part due to the questions about possible ship-board operations. The short takeoff and vertical landing B variant would be best suited to the LPH-II plan. They could also potentially fly from South Korea's existing Dokdo class amphibious assault ships, if major modifications could be made, as well as support distributed operations on land, concepts of operation that you can read about in more detail in these past War Zone stories.

    South Korea's first-in-class Dokdo amphibous assault ship.

    However, "the state-funded Korea Institute for Defense Analyses, or KIDA, has concluded a study on the additional acquisition of F-35 aircraft, and the study is to suggest the introduction of more F-35As be more feasible," an unnamed Ministry of National Defense source had told Defense News. "There are two issues [with buying] the F-35B. First, it’s more expensive than the conventional-takeoff-and-landing version. Second, the deployment of a carrier-type landing ship is far away from now."

    Cost was also reportedly a factor in choosing the LPH-II proposal over the CATOBAR carrier concepts, as well, according to Choi. Still, the legislator's position may increasingly resonate with other South Korean officials, including President Moon. "Our military’s iron-clad security supports dialogue and cooperation, and enabled [the country] to boldly walk toward permanent peace," the South Korean president had said on Oct. 1, 2019, during a ceremony to mark the country's Armed Forces Day. The South Korean Air Force's F-35As were also a prominent feature at that event.

    South Korea is facing the prospect of renewed belligerence from North Korea, which has been testing increasingly threatening ballistic missiles and other weapons in recent months. The regime in Pyongyang notably fired a new submarine-launched ballistic missile on Oct. 2, 2019, the first such test in three years. It was also the longest-range ballistic missile test since North Korean Premier Kim Jong Un had announced a self-imposed moratorium on long-range missile and nuclear weapons testing in 2017.

    With U.S.-North Korean relations cooling off again after a recent thaw, South Korea may also need to reassess its regional security priorities. On Oct. 10, 2019, North Korea even renewed its threat to abandon the testing moratorium entirely if it does not feel sufficient progress is being made in negotiations with the United States.

    At the same time, South Korea has been increasingly faced with broader security challenges when it comes to China, as well as Russia, who are increasingly cooperating militarily in northeast Asia and the Pacific region, as a whole. Just this week, the South Korean government announced that it was in talks to establish new security hotlines with the Chinese and Russians to try to avoid dangerous altercations around disputed boundaries. Though Russia disputes the account, South Korea claimed that its fighter jets had fired warning shots at Russian combat aircraft flying around contested islets in the East Sea in July.

    On top of all this, the South Koreans are embroiled in a serious trade and political dispute with the Japanese, despite the two countries being treaty allies. In August, South Korea notably ended an intelligence-sharing agreement with Japan.

    All told, South Korea may be facing new questions about how it intends to secure its interests in its immediate neighborhood, as well as project power regionally and potentially beyond as time goes on. Whether or not the government in Seoul will decide that aircraft carriers and aircraft to go with them are essential to meeting those demands, as Choi argues, remains to be seen.

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  14. #4694
    Clifford Coonan‏ @cliffordcoonan · 18h18 hours ago

    Merkel's move not to stop Huawei in German 5G will annoy more than just the US and her own coalition partners -- only last week, the EU warned against 5G firms from ‘hostile’ powers

  15. #4695
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    Between Holy & Crap

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    Chinese President #XiJinping on #HongKong wanting freedom: "Anyone who attempts to split any region from #China will perish, with their bodies smashed and bones ground to powder".
    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

  16. #4696
    Well, he didn't mince words, did he?

  17. #4697
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinecone View Post
    Well, he didn't mince words, did he?
    Yeah.....just that Xi is talking like that means Beijing is in trouble.....


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