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    Bunch of power outages


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    Quote Originally Posted by neosgirl View Post


    These things do happen and what the problem is may take a while before they release the info.

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    Power outages have been occurring west of me just a few miles and we are a long way from the locations noted.

    Brief but aggravating outages.

    Non here (yet) BTW.

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    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...s-11089574.php

    Massive power outage hits San Francisco, shuts down businesses, BART station, traffic lights

    By Sarah Ravani
    Updated 10:40 am, Friday, April 21, 2017

    A massive power outage in San Francisco on Friday morning caused a blackout in neighborhoods across the city, from the Financial District to the Presidio, forcing the closure of businesses, a federal courthouse and a BART station, officials said.

    A spokesman for Pacific Gas and Electric Co. said at least 90,000 customers lost power.

    BART’s Montgomery Station was closed due to the outage, which struck after 9 a.m. BART rains were running through Montgomery Station without stopping. Cable cars were also impacted and shuttles were put in place to provide service, according to the Municipal Transportation Agency.

    There were reports of traffic lights out in many city intersections, and traffic was backing up on downtown streets. The Phillip Burton Federal Building and U.S. Courthouse at 450 Golden Gate Ave. was among the many buildings closed down by the outage.

    A PG&E spokesman said the company was trying to determine the cause of the outage, as well as how long it would take to restore power. The San Francisco Fire Department was responding to calls for service, but reported no injuries as of 10 a.m.
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    San Francisco Power Outage Affecting More Than 89,000 Residents

    Breaking: PG&E is reporting 88 outages affecting just over 89,000 residents.


    By Randy Miller (Patch Staff) -
    April 21, 2017 1:34 pm ET

    SAN FRANCISCO, CA — A massive power outage hit downtown San Francisco Friday morning, leaving thousands without power, closing a BART station and bringing the whole area to a grinding halt. Pacific Gas & Electric officials say that "crews are working safely and as quickly as possible to restore power," but they have yet to report an official time that power will be restored to the just over 89,000 residents affected.

    San Francisco Police report they are working with PG&E to address the massive power outage affecting portions of San Francisco Friday morning.

    San Francisco Fire Department officials say they have no reports of injuries so far due to the power outage.

    BART closed the Montgomery station downtown at about 9:15 a.m. due to power issues. Thousands of customers are without power, according to reports.The muni is reporting that all cable car lines are down as well.
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    Massive Power Outage In San Francisco Follows PG&E Substation Fire

    April 21, 2017 9:27 AM

    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) – A power outage forced the closure of BART’s Montgomery Station in San Francisco during Friday’s morning rush hour and knocked out traffic lights from Union Square to the Marina District and the city’s famed cable car lines.

    As many as 100,000 customers in San Francisco were without power and the massive California Pacific Medical Center was on back-up power and had been forced to shut down its operating rooms.

    San Francisco fire crews and PG&E crews were at the site of smoky blaze at a utility substation and vault facility on 600 Larkin Street. It was not known if that was the source of the outage.

    “Insulation is still smoldering,” said a San Francisco Fire Department spokesman of the substation fire. “We are trying to cool it, but we need to bring in our CO2 unit to assist us. We have been using dry chemicals to put out the flames, but it’s still hot and keeps reigniting.”

    An BART alert at 9:15 a.m. advised passengers of a closure “due to a technical problem with PG&E” and advise commuters to take buses to their location in the downtown area.

    The transit agency brought in a massive generator and parked it outside the station in an effort to get it back online.

    The Montgomery station is a key stop all BART lines coming into the city. Cable car lines were also knocked out of service.

    The San Francisco Office of Emergency offices in the Fillmore District was knocked off line by the outage, officials said.

    Meanwhile, the power outage was causing chaos on the streets of San Francisco.

    Mon Alicia took to Twitter to comment: “I always thought The Big One would throw San Francisco into mass chaos. I’m learning a large scale downtown power outage does the same.”

    Brandon Bradford tweeted: “Huge power outages in NYC and SF right now. In a movie people would be freaking out.”

    Traffic lights were also reportedly out from San Francisco’s Union Square to the Marina District. Power was also out in San Francisco’s Presidio.
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    95,000 affected by power outage in in San Francisco

    Updated 8 mins ago

    SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) --

    PG&E reports that about 95,000 customers are affected by a power outage in San Francisco. They say there was a fire at their Larkin substation, but did not confirm that is the cause of the outage.

    The outage is reportedly widespread from Union Square to the Marina and has also triggered the closure of BART's Montgomery station. BART is advising commuters to take Muni. However, SFMTA is reporting that they're also affected. The cable car lines are down and shuttles are being provided.

    PG&E power outage map

    ABC7 News reporter Kate Larsen says firefighters tell her that they're getting called to multiple buildings downtown to rescue people trapped in elevators due to the outage.

    And photos tweeted by ABC7 News' Juan Carlos Guerrero shows an eerie look inside the Montgomery station, as it's currently empty and with the lights out.

    PG&E does not have an ETA on when power will be restored.
    Residents are being advised to call 911 in case of emergencies.
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    NIGHTMARE COMMUTE: Power Problems Strand Subway Riders, Create Major Delays Systemwide

    April 21, 2017 1:45 PM

    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Platforms were packed and some riders were stuck underground in the dark after a power outage in Midtown Manhattan backed up trains all over the city, making for a nightmare commute during the Friday morning rush hour.

    Hundreds of riders were packed inside a D train when it got stuck in a tunnel just short of the subway stop at Seventh Avenue and 53rd Street after the signals lost power around 7:30 a.m.

    “It was not comfortable,” one rider told CBS2’s Janelle Burrell.

    “They were just like we’re going to stay here momentarily because there’s a power outage,” said commuter Max Civil.

    That momentary wait turned into about an hour and a half, according to rider Ray Bobcombe.

    “I just slept,” he said. “I just put my head down, nothing else to do. Just wait it out.”

    An E train had one car already in at the station platform when the outage happened. Riders were able to get out through that car.

    One man from Brooklyn told 1010 WINS that his 30-minute commute took two hours and a woman from Queens who was on the stuck E train said her ride was 90 minutes.

    Commuters posted pictures and video on Twitter of crowded subway platforms and dark trains. .

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said a Con Edison equipment failure knocked out signals, escalators, communications and lights at the station.

    Con Edison brought in temporary generators as crews made repairs. At one point, red tape blocked the entrance to the 53rd Street and Seventh Avenue station, where two police officers redirected subway riders while the power was out, 1010 WINS’ Roger Stern reported.

    A Con Edison spokesperson told the Associated Press that no work was being done in the area before the outage and there were no “obvious problems” in the utility’s system. They are working to determine the cause of the outage.

    “We’re working jointly with the MTA to make repairs to underground equipment serving the subway system. We will work with them to complete the repairs as expeditiously as possible,” Con Ed said in a statement, adding that the source of the problem is unclear and they are working to repair electrical equipment underground.

    An MTA official at the scene told CBS2 they’re hoping, but not making any promises, whether the situation will be resolved by the evening commute.

    Cuomo has called on the state’s Department of Public Service and the MTA to conduct an investigation.

    “Simply put, this was completely unacceptable,” Cuomo said in a statement. “The New York City subway system is the lifeblood of the city and a critical means of transportation for millions of people, which is why we are making unprecedented capital investments into modernizing the system. The MTA will continue to deploy emergency resources to address the short-term issues, and our investigation will address all aspects of today’s events to get to the bottom of what happened.”

    The problem caused disruptions on 11 lines.

    MTA spokesperson Beth DeFalco said signals were down and trains had to rerouted.

    “”So now you got all of these trains moving at peak hour and you are putting them on to other lines. You are doubling the traffic effectively on the other lines,” DeFalco said. “Think of it like taking traffic from a highway and moving it onto side streets.”

    According the MTA the following changes are in effect:

    B, D and E trains are bypassing Seventh Avenue-53rd Street in both directions.

    LIRR was crossing honoring at Sutphin Boulevard-Archer Avenue, Kew Gardens-Union Turnpike, Forest Hills-71st Avenue, 61st Street-Woodside, and 34th Street-Pen Station.
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    Multiple power outages this morning... more than coincidence?

    Has any of this been reported here? If so, I missed it...

    ABC7 Eyewitness News‏Verified account @ABC7 12h12 hours agoMore



    LONG BEACH UPDATE: Edison now says balloon not cause of Port power outage; hundreds of trucks remain strandedhttp://abc7.la/2pXQwGO



    Article:
    Thursday, April 20, 2017 11:23PM
    LONG BEACH, Calif. (KABC) --
    Power was knocked out at part of the Port of Long Beach Thursday evening, stranding hundreds of trucks for hours.

    The power outage was reported around 5:30 p.m.

    Southern California Edison initially reported it was caused by metallic balloons coming in contact with wires. The utility later corrected that statement, saying there was a different outage in Long Beach that was caused by balloons. The agency is still investigating the cause of the outage at the port.

    -snip-
    The Port of Long Beach is the nation's second-busiest container port, right behind the Port of Los Angeles. It handles some 82 million metric tons of cargo every year.

    http://abc7.com/news/hundreds-of-tru...utage/1898455/
    Massive power outage hits San Francisco, shuts down businesses, BART station, traffic
    Updated 11:01 am, Friday, April 21, 2017

    A massive power outage in San Francisco caused a blackout Friday morning in neighborhoods across the city, from the Financial District to the Presidio, forcing the closure of businesses, a BART station and a federal courthouse, officials said.
    A spokesman for Pacific Gas and Electric Co. said at least 90,000 customers lost power and that there had been a fire at a substation on Larkin Street. It wasn’t immediately clear whether the fire caused the outage, which swept through the city after 9 a.m., or was ignited as a result of the outage.
    Continued:

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...s-11089574.php
    Published 2 hours ago | Updated 10 minutes ago
    ...In New York City, a power outage at the 7th Avenue-53rd Street subway station has suspended service on the entire B line in both directions from Brooklyn to the Bronx. D trains are running on the C line between West 4th Street and Columbus Circle, and E trains are running on the F line between West 4th Street and Jackson Heights-Roosevelt in both directions.


    ...There is no M train service between Queens and Manhattan, only from Brooklyn and Queens. Delays should be expected on A, B, C, D, E, F, J, M, N, Q and R train lines.Commuters seeking alternate means of getting to their destinations are also facing frustration in the notorious surge-pricing feature of Uber: riders complained of seeing prices as high as $43 for about a 2.5 mile ride in an UberX in Manhattan.


    Source: Switch Problem Mucks Up NJ Transit; Power Outage Suspends Subway Line | NBC New York http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...#ixzz4etPALZ1N
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    Interestingly, the outages in NY city and San Fran happened at almost exactly the same time...

    Hmmmm....

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    too much coincidence IMO.........get ready guys, wish we could prep more but IT IS WHAT IT IS!
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    And how much do you want to bet that we will never know the real reason behind the outages? It will turn out to be some innocuous computer glitch. Apparently, we just can't handle the truth.
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    Didn't NorthKorea just threaten San Francisco in a video?

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    Didn't someone say they were going to do a simulated Nuke EMP to see how things would look. You could be the test case right now.
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    Oh brother...(sigh)

    Prayers sent up for everyone here. Many prayers said right now, these are the times for many prayers. Can't stress it enough.
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    I was wondering EXACTLY the same thing; one is likely an accident, two is interesting and three really smells...especially when you consider the "targets" I was born in Long Beach and while it is no longer the huge Navy town it was when I was a kid, it is still MAJOR port and has a lot of military/navel stuff that goes on there.

    Ditto San Francisco while not as big a military center as it was before the closing of a number of bases (partly as "punishment" for not supporting Gulf War 1 and that was said so at the time) it is still because of its location and the port of Oakland a MAJOR military and shipping hub (what doesn't come into Long Beach or San Pedro, tends to come into Oakland).

    New York is pretty obvious because it is both a trading and financial center; along with being an important shipping hub...

    I think "someone(s)" is/are doing trial runs and right now I can think of a number of candidates who might want to try something like this.
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    IF it was hacking through the SCADA systems they'll never admit it as it would cause a panic. Good possibility of probing to make sure that the holes haven't been patched and 'they' can still disrupt the systems at will. Like anything else don't pay attention to what they say but what they do.
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    Loosen the tin foil. I'm sure if you look harder there are at least 10 more outages across the country at the some time routinely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgyver View Post
    Loosen the tin foil. I'm sure if you look harder there are at least 10 more outages across the country at the some time routinely.
    Prove your assertion.

    I think it is you that has the tin foil on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    I was wondering EXACTLY the same thing; one is likely an accident, two is interesting and three really smells...especially when you consider the "targets" I was born in Long Beach and while it is no longer the huge Navy town it was when I was a kid, it is still MAJOR port and has a lot of military/navel stuff that goes on there.

    Ditto San Francisco while not as big a military center as it was before the closing of a number of bases (partly as "punishment" for not supporting Gulf War 1 and that was said so at the time) it is still because of its location and the port of Oakland a MAJOR military and shipping hub (what doesn't come into Long Beach or San Pedro, tends to come into Oakland).

    New York is pretty obvious because it is both a trading and financial center; along with being an important shipping hub...

    I think "someone(s)" is/are doing trial runs and right now I can think of a number of candidates who might want to try something like this.
    Candidates??? Like Hillary, Gore, McCain, Graham, etc......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgyver View Post
    Loosen the tin foil. I'm sure if you look harder there are at least 10 more outages across the country at the some time routinely.
    If you don't want tin foil go someplace else. This is a doom forum!!!

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    Didn't North Korea just threaten Sn Fran in a video last week?

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    This thread is why the, "A few teams of trained foreign riflemen", scenario worries me so much. Today, a substation fire shut down a major urban area; imagine what dozens of kinetically-produced substation failures would do to the country... The mind reels.

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    Russia has vetoed a UN resolution to condemn North Korea’s
    most recent missile launch test.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/19/asia/r...o-north-korea/


    ^^^ But, later agreed with some modifications
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    Devils advocate: Say there is no hacking. What is the possibility this could this be due to all the coal fired power plants being taken off line? If it is; if this is happening now could we be looking at serious brown outs come the high heat of summer?
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    Probably just collateral damage from the day after 4/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    I was wondering EXACTLY the same thing; one is likely an accident, two is interesting and three really smells...especially when you consider the "targets" I was born in Long Beach and while it is no longer the huge Navy town it was when I was a kid, it is still MAJOR port and has a lot of military/navel stuff that goes on there.

    Ditto San Francisco while not as big a military center as it was before the closing of a number of bases (partly as "punishment" for not supporting Gulf War 1 and that was said so at the time) it is still because of its location and the port of Oakland a MAJOR military and shipping hub (what doesn't come into Long Beach or San Pedro, tends to come into Oakland).

    New York is pretty obvious because it is both a trading and financial center; along with being an important shipping hub...

    I think "someone(s)" is/are doing trial runs and right now I can think of a number of candidates who might want to try something like this.

    agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark D View Post
    This thread is why the, "A few teams of trained foreign riflemen", scenario worries me so much. Today, a substation fire shut down a major urban area; imagine what dozens of kinetically-produced substation failures would do to the country... The mind reels.
    I think of that every time I drive by one. They are so vulnerable.... and often remote. Sixty rounds from an AK, two minutes tops, and they are out of service for a long time. Our open society is extremely vulnerable, and this is but one scenario. Dozens upon dozens more, equally chilling and effective.

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    I doubt anything will be done to harden the substations, until half the nation is without power.
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    12 sshhhhh

    Has nothing to do, absolutely no chance of a small despotic Asian country attacking our power grid...

    Move Along nothing to see here, must be Global warming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    New York is pretty obvious because it is both a trading and financial center; along with being an important shipping hub...
    this is what everyone has been lead to believe, but it's far from the truth. redundant systems are in place.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ractivist View Post
    I think of that every time I drive by one. They are so vulnerable.... and often remote. Sixty rounds from an AK, two minutes tops, and they are out of service for a long time. Our open society is extremely vulnerable, and this is but one scenario. Dozens upon dozens more, equally chilling and effective.
    1 AP round in 750gr would probably get into the windingsboom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith357 View Post
    If you don't want tin foil go someplace else. This is a doom forum!!!
    ^^^^THIS^^^^

    You tell em smith357.

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    Southwest Missouri Here....

    I'm in IT, and our area lost power.

    Not only that, but the entire Underground lost power. You know its going to be an interesting day, when every parking space in the underground is filled with cars, and your datacenter is filled with Admins.

    Apparently, the generator didn't kick on. Some people weren't very happy....

    Luckily for us, the only thing that didn't boot back up was a sandbox server. And all I needed to do what hit "enter" to get it to boot.

    But it sucks when your on site equipment is more stable than your critical infrastructure in the underground.
    Gammas stand apart, staking out and defending their space, finding their own mate, showing no interest in dominating the Betas.

    Essentially, they avoid all but necessary, cautious interaction with Alphas and Betas.

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    Southwest Missouri Here....

    I'm in IT, and our area lost power.

    Not only that, but the entire Underground lost power. You know its going to be an interesting day, when every parking space in the underground is filled with cars, and your server room is filled with Admins.

    Apparently, the generator didn't kick on. Some people weren't very happy....

    Luckily for us, the only thing that didn't boot back up was a sandbox server. And all I needed to do was hit "enter" to get it to boot.

    But it sucks when your on site equipment is more stable than your critical infrastructure in the underground.
    Gammas stand apart, staking out and defending their space, finding their own mate, showing no interest in dominating the Betas.

    Essentially, they avoid all but necessary, cautious interaction with Alphas and Betas.

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    Interesting GammaRat. Any important or high profile companies /agencies run out of that data center? Or anything interesting in the area that would be considered a target for someone to take offline?

    About 15 years ago or so, it used to be standard practice to test the generator once a month. Have things changed? I can only imagine the unhappiness, and on a Friday no less. Hope your weekend goes smoothly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by packyderms_wife View Post
    this is what everyone has been lead to believe, but it's far from the truth. redundant systems are in place.
    Yes there are, but not even all the "bad" guys realize that, and the emotional impact of another "serious" hit on New York would create a lot of emotional meltdown (or "bang" if you a bad guy); the same is true of Washington DC, there are fall backs both in terms of alternative capitols to bunkers for congress (if they can get there); but again the emotional and moral problems an actual serious hit (like nuke or even seriously big attack) would have on the nation; would be serious and symbolic.

    So what I meant by "obvious" is more the emotional impact a successful large attack would have on the national moral; as well as at least t a temporary effect on business, commerce and shipping. The first part would be in many ways the most important (the emotional impact) because since 9/11 Wallstreet, the Banking Industry and even shipping companies have been making back up plans; though East Coast Shipping might still be badly affect at least in the short term.

    The main thing I noticed about all three cities is they are ports and at least two are important naval centers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ractivist View Post
    I think of that every time I drive by one. They are so vulnerable.... and often remote. Sixty rounds from an AK, two minutes tops, and they are out of service for a long time. Our open society is extremely vulnerable, and this is but one scenario. Dozens upon dozens more, equally chilling and effective.
    Four guys, four generic old cars, four AK's... At 12:01pm each of them spends fifteen seconds putting rounds on target, then they calmly drive to the next target... I bet they could have twelve targets serviced before law enforcement began to wake-up to the idea of terrorism. If, by some miracle, LE really had their act together and started providing security at the substations, the terror teams would just move "Infrastructure Of Opportunity".

    If the bad guys REALLY wanted to mess things up, they would park their "First" car in a mall parking lot after hitting their second target, and switch to a pre-staged secondary for the next couple of hits. If they wanted to spice things up, set a timer to simply burn the first car after a random amount of time; since it's NOT an explosion, it wouldn't automatically trigger the "Terrorism" thought process - but it WOULD add a fair amount of chaos to the situation... Heaven forbid the actors leave similar devices in their temporary lodging.

    If you duplicated this effort in a dozen cities, life would get REALLY interesting in short order. A rouge nation could really push our $h!t in for about, I'm rough-guessing here, maybe $50K per team in capital outlay.

    The cities would tear themselves apart.

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