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    If mystics and fortune tellers are so good a predicting the future then?

    Ok, if mystics and fortune tellers can foretell the future, then why do we never hear of them playing and winning the lottery? If I could predict the future, the first thing I would do is know what the next powerball numbers are going to be.

    This is my response to the mystic thread. I did not want to spoil it there. I felt it was so deep over there that I should provide my response here and not offer any offense there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Ok, if mystics and fortune tellers can foretell the future, then why do we never hear of them playing and winning the lottery? If I could predict the future, the first thing I would do is know what the next powerball numbers are going to be.

    This is my response to the mystic thread. I did not want to spoil it there. I felt it was so deep over there that I should provide my response here and not offer any offense there.
    I wonder the same thing, also in ref to those who supposedly can do " remote viewing " which I don't believe in. they should all be filthy rich.

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    If the first thing that pop's in one's mind is making a fast $ 1,000,000 from some clown named Randy; forget it. If your purpose or spirit is about protecting yourself or others, you might find yourself thanking God for that gift.

    My Dad
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    All saved by being open to the ever so slight "be still and listen" that our father taught us.

    I will work until I'm 85 if I had to to secure those I love. A heart of dollars cannot feel, it would be akin to being blind. No thank you, I don't mind working.


    Randy can go pound sand and (do that thing) in a windstorm so many idle hands find time for.


    Proof only scares away the loudest mouth witnesses. Been there, done that on more than one occasion; and yes...

    I do understand the nature of why this subject matter goes round and round.

    Fear, apprehension, and indecision will burn in a spirit until until ego is gone. This is as honest a answer as I can present from my own experiences grasshoppers...
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    Anybody can say anything. Only a fool spends his life believing such people.

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    Well, I can give a reason why some of us don't do this; I've watched some fellow prognosticators/psychic readers/fortune tellers etc try to make money playing the lotto, the races etc for personal gain.

    Sometimes, depending on their "gifts" they do very well at first, but I have NEVER seen it turn out well in the long run; which I why I simply won't do it. I try not to judge people who do but I will caution them if asked about it.

    I point out that Edgar Cayce; who wasn't perfect but had an amazing track record for his day, was once talked into doing "readings" for a group that wanted to get rich and including him in the getting rich scheme (I think it was looking for gold, but might have been oil wells don't recall right now) anyway, the only time in his life Cayce's readings were consistently WRONG (as opposed to occasionally wrong) was when trying to read for this self-wealth gaining project.

    He later admitted it was a terrible mistake and ceased doing it, this didn't end his charging a relatively modest amount of money for readings (after his wife threatened to take the kids home to Mom because the family had run out of food, he said he had to charge something for readings or get a paying job again or she would be forced to take the kids to her Mom to feed them); but he never again did readings specifically for personal gain.

    Now I will (and have) read for wealthy people interested say buying one race horse over another and they ask me to look at the cards/energies around each horse; I am happy to do that though I always advise them never base something like that solely on a reading from me or anyone else; rather use it as a tool for information in the same way you would reports from the horse's trainer, their vet, their pedigree etc.

    But I'm not promising their horse will win or that they will get such and such a score next Saturday at the track; rather I can get a projection of the potentials the horse may have over those of another; the decisions that owners and trainers make will help determine if the horse grows up to meet that potential future.

    Meanwhile, I'm not out to take on Randy or convince anyone things are "true" or not; I provide information for those who are interested but I'm happy not to bore atheist housemate with the details at dinner; there's lots of other things to talk about.
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    Psychics



    Ever wonder how a psychic is able to accurately predict things in the near future? Not all psychics are actually able to this, but some of them are.


    In His Word, God tells us that there are spirits, familiar spirits, unclean spirits and demons all around us. They roam the planes of our planet. They not only harass, but they listen and watch, and they look for opportunities to communicate with living people.

    If an unclean spirit or a demon can get someone interested in interacting with them, by either listening to them, or even by conversing with them, then they have the hope of leading that person deeper into the realm of spiritism. God warns us not to consult with these spirits, and He tells us that doing so is an abomination unto Him.

    Deuteronomy 18:10
    There shall not be found among you any one
    that makes his son or his daughter to pass
    through the fire, or that uses divination, or an
    observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
    De 18:11
    Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar
    spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
    De 18:12
    For all that do these things are an abomination
    unto the LORD

    One of the reasons is because these are the very ones who rebelled against God and were banished from His Kingdom. They are the enemies of God, the very ones whom Jesus came to defeat by the cross. Another reason is because their goal is to try to keep the unsaved from being saved, and to try to cause the saved Christian to delve into all types of sin. They are deceivers and their ways are subtle, even gentle, and they are seductive.

    Ouija boards, tarot cards, crystal balls, tape recorders and digital voice recorders are all widely used to communicate with these spirits. Spirits are also able to communicate to our thoughts and imaginations. Some "psychics" are able to concentrate and get their mindset to a place where they are mentally open to these influences, i.e., they are able to recognize them and hear from them.

    Imagine the excitement and seduction of trying to communicate with the spirits "on the other side", and having that spirit actually answer you, or acknowledge you in some way. Then, you ask it a question, and it answers you. Perhaps it tells you something that will soon occur in your life, a near future event pertaining to you or one of your loved ones. It is kind, accommodating, even polite. Soon enough that spirit, and others, to your amazement, are completely at your disposal. They are willing to tell you anything. Then they tell you they can not only tell you things, but they can perform various tasks for you. All you need is some knowledge of basic magic. Cast a spell, and they will see it through, if God so allows.

    The soft subtle seduction is powerful, and before you know it, you have become a "psychic". But this is an abomination unto God. It not only insults Him, and is a sin, but the deeper the practitioner is dragged into the dark world of spiritism, the further from God he goes, and the further from the truth of Jesus and His salvation he is carried.

    How it Works
    Jane is talking to her boss, Mary, on the phone. Mary tells Jane: "I need you to fly out to Washington next week to attend the meeting. You'll probably be there for at least three days..."

    Jane's husband, Tom, is out running some errands on his day off, and decides to stop in and check out the local psychic. He's heard she is pretty accurate, and decides to try it out, just for kicks of course.

    He sits down at a table with the psychic and she begins doing her mumbo jumbo and then she tells him: "oh, I see your wife is going on a trip to Washington next week."

    When Tom returns home later on, he asks Jane if she really has to go to Washington next week. To his amazement, she does!

    Because these spirits are all around us, everywhere, and some of them tend to follow people around, they were there and heard the conversation between Jane and her boss. Since these spirits can seemingly be anywhere instantly, and watching Tom, they followed him into the psychic, where, when the psychic began to call on the spiritual realm of beyond, they obliged her with the information they had. The psychic has no power or means from within to predict, for they, like all physical objects and beings, are bound by the physical laws of nature. Flesh, bone, cells, etc, are restricted to the physical laws of nature. To see a future event, outside of our own physical realm, it takes a being who lives outside of the time and space of our physical realm.

    There is no mystery here. Communication with the spirits, and their influence on the imaginations and thoughts is possible, and God warns us not to partake is this - because it is possible and does happen.

    1Peter 5:8
    Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary
    the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about,
    seeking whom he may devour:



    ( Satan and his spirit cohorts are alive, well and active. Through “ghosts”, “fortune tellers”, “psychics”, “tarot”, “clairvoyants”, “ouija boards” etc. etc….. he tricks and deceives many. The end result of dabbling in and becoming dependent on these practices is spiritual death and often physical, mental, emotional, social and economic disaster….. Keygar )


    Psychics (take 2)

    by David J. Stewart



    "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God." -Leviticus 19:31

    It's psychic mania! Never before have there been so many psychics, crawling out of the sewer, seducing the masses, and getting filthy rich. As we read in the above Scripture, God forbids anyone from regarding them which have a "familiar sprit" (i.e., those who are familiar with demonic spirits). One after another, it seems that every month we are hearing about a new "psychic" (also called a "medium") who claims to have connections with THE OTHER SIDE.

    The Word of God teaches that when the body dies, their spirit will either be carried to Heaven by angels, or sent to Hell to suffer torment (Luke 16:22,23). Although hard to grasp, since God is often only viewed as a loving God, the Bible clearly teaches that God will take VENGEANCE upon those who die in their sins, having not obeyed the Gospel of Jesus Christ, "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord..." -2nd Thessalonians 1:8,9. It is clear from the Bible that the spirits of the dead cannot return to speak with us, nor send messages through psychic mediums.

    Psychics are of the Devil, who become willing channels of Satan's power. There's is no doubt that some psychics are real, and do indeed posses Satanic power. It has been documented that some psychics have helped criminal investigators in missing persons cases. It is also true that many psychics have made complete fools of themselves, like when Sylvia Browne stated in January of 2006 that the trapped West Virginia miners were alive; BUT, as it later turned out, they were all dead, but one. Gotcha!

    People are so woefully ignorant of the Scriptures that they've even begun to believe that their pets have psychic powers, and that some animals communicate through a form of ESP. The Word of God is clear that only mankind has a spirit. Animals have souls, as far as a heart, mind and will; BUT, they cannot receive Christ as Saviour, and do not have spirits. The soul is one's ability to think (mind), feel (heart), and make decisions (will). The spirit is that which separates humans beings from the animal world. Animals do not have a conscience, a moral compass to guide them. When the Bible speaks in Jeremiah 17:9 about the deceitful and wicked "heart" of man, it is speaking of man's sinful spirit, his sin nature ... "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" The heart is man's sub-consciousness, who he or she really is. At best, we are all horrible sinners (Isaiah 64:6; Romans 3:10,23; 6:23; 1st John 1:8,10). This is why we all need a Saviour, to forgive our sins. Thankfully, Jesus Christ shed His blood to pay for all our sins. This is why eternal life is a free gift (Romans 5:15; 6:23). All we have to do to be saved is to believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour ... "Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved..." -Acts 16:30,31. You'll never hear that from a psychic, because they are Satanic.

    "For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Let not your prophets and your diviners, that be in the midst of you, deceive you, neither hearken to your dreams which ye cause to be dreamed. For they prophesy falsely unto you in my name: I have not sent them, saith the LORD." -Jeremiah 29:8

    Now we even see such blasphemies as "Psychic Gifts in the Christian Life" in magazines. God's Holy Spirit is not a power which can be channeled, manipulated, or turned on and off like a water-faucet. Carefully note that such alleged "Christian" magazines use the occult language: "Tools To Connect," "Our God Spots," "Finding Missing Persons," "Games To Access Sensitivities," "Channeling Holy Spirit." It's all demonic! To the unsuspecting victim, who is not knowledgeable concerning the Truth of the Word of God, this may well appear as a Christian publication; BUT, it certainly is not! Millions of people today are falling victim to these New Age Satanists, who claim to have powers from God; BUT, their power (if any) is directly from Satan. The Holy Spirit is not for sale, as Simon, the former sorcerer, found out In Acts 8:19,20 ... "Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost. But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money." How dare these psychics make tens-of-millions of dollars selling books, holding seminars, selling psychic readings, while exploiting the name of Christianity for their own personal gain. Satan is a master deceiver, and he is subtly at work in all of today's psychics. Don't let their Christian appearance fool you, they are whited sepulchres filled with dead men's bones. Psychics are an abomination unto God, and will lead you into Hell! They speak lies in the name of truth. They offer demonism in the name of spirituality. BEWARE OF PSYCHICS!!


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    What is the Christian view of psychics / fortune tellers?



    Answer: The Bible strongly condemns spiritism, mediums, the occult, and psychics (Leviticus 20:27; Deuteronomy 18:10-13). Horoscopes, tarot cards, astrology, fortune tellers, palm readings, and séances fall into this category as well. These practices are based on the concept that there are gods, spirits, or deceased loved ones that can give advice and guidance. These “gods” or “spirits” are demons (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). The Bible gives us no reason to believe that deceased loved ones can contact us. If they were believers, they are in heaven enjoying the most wonderful place imaginable in fellowship with a loving God. If they were not believers, they are in hell, suffering the un-ending torment for rejecting God’s love and rebelling against Him.

    So, if our loved ones cannot contact us, how do mediums, spiritists, and psychics get such accurate information? There have been many exposures of psychics as frauds. It has been proven that psychics can gain immense amounts of information on someone through ordinary means. Sometimes by just using a telephone number through caller ID and an internet search, a psychic can get names, addresses, dates of birth, dates of marriage, family members, etc. However, it is undeniable that psychics sometimes know things that should be impossible for them to know. Where do they get this information? The answer is from Satan and his demons. “And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve” (2 Corinthians 11:14-15). Acts 16:16-18 describes a fortune teller who was able to predict the future until the apostle Paul rebuked a demon out of her.

    Satan pretends to be kind and helpful. He tries to appear as something good. Satan and his demons will give a psychic information about a person in order to get that person hooked into spiritism, something that God forbids. It appears innocent at first, but soon people can find themselves addicted to psychics and unwittingly allow Satan to control and destroy their lives. Peter proclaimed, “Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour” (1 Peter 5:8). In some cases, the psychics themselves are deceived, not knowing the true source of the information they receive. Whatever the case and wherever the source of the information, nothing connected to spiritism, witchcraft, or astrology is a godly means of discovering information. How does God want us to discern His will for our life? God’s plan is simple, yet powerful and effective: study the Bible (2 Timothy 3:16-17) and pray for wisdom (James 1:5).


    https://www.gotquestions.org/psychics-Christian.html

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    What does God say about channeling and mediums?

    Channeling is a modern name for what the Bible calls mediumship or spiritism. A channeler is a mystic who becomes a channel, or receptive agent, for intelligent communications coming from the spirit world. What does God say about mediumship? It's in the Bible, Leviticus 19:31 NIV. "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them.

    Channeling is a method of trying to communicate with the spirit world that has existed since antiquity. Most modern channelers learn the art through the practice of Eastern meditation. This mildly altered state of consciousness enables the channeler to psychically perceive spirit messages. These manifest themselves as a “thought voice,” which is perceived in the stillness of the medium’s mind. Experienced mediums can enter into a trance state whereby the spirit entity takes direct control over the medium's voice, speaking through it in an accent quite distinct from the medium's normal mode of speech.

    It is claimed that the telepathic communications come from highly evolved spirit beings existing in the normally invisible realms of the spirit dimension. Sometimes the medium will have a vision in which he or she sees the spirit in a visible form, manifested in the imagination faculties of the medium’s consciousness. The spirit guides are said to sometimes wear white robes and often radiate brilliant, golden-white light. Channelers claim that the messages received represent divine wisdom and truth, and have beneficial value for mankind.

    Spiritists and mediums were common among the pagan peoples of the Bible lands. God warned the children of Israel against becoming involved in these practices just prior to their entry into the Promised Land of Canaan. "When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord." (Deuteronomy 18:9-12 NIV)

    King Saul of Israel sought counsel from a medium called the Witch of Endor. The armies of Israel were about to be attacked by the Philistines. Saul was in rebellion against God and in desperation sought the services of the spiritist. "So Saul disguised himself and put on other clothes, and he went, and two men with him; and they came to the woman by night. And he said, “Please conduct a séance for me, and bring up for me the one I shall name to you.” (1 Samuel 28:8 NKJV). Saul then asked the medium to conjure up the spirit of the deceased prophet Samuel, to ask his counsel regarding the pending Philistine attack. "And the king said to her, 'Do not be afraid. What did you see?' And the woman said to Saul, 'I saw a spirit ascending out of the earth.' So he said to her, 'What is his form?' And she said, 'An old man is coming up, and he is covered with a mantle.' And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed down.'" (1 Samuel 28:13-14. NKJV)

    Saul should have known better than to consult with a medium, for God had warned in Leviticus 20:6, "I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and spiritists to prostitute himself by following them. I will cut him off from his people." The end result of King Saul's quest was tragic. Shortly after his visit to the witch, the king was wounded in battle and took his own life rather than being captured by the enemy.

    Was the spirit conjured up by the medium a genuine agent of God? Was it actually the deceased prophet Samuel - or was it a spirit imposter?

    The Bible says, "For the living know that they will die; but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished; nevermore will they have a share in anything done under the sun." In other words, for sure we know it couldn't be Samuel, because when we die, we "know nothing." (For more information on what happens when we die, see our topic on Death).

    There are some key details that must not be overlooked. First, the spirit was "ascending out of the earth." Those who believe that when you die, your spirit goes up to heaven have to ask themselves, "why was Samuel's spirit coming up from the earth, rather than down from heaven?"

    Second, when the spirit speaks to Saul and gives a prediction, the spirit says, "tomorrow you and your sons will be with me.” Again we have to ask, if Samuel is a good man and prophet of the Lord, isn't he supposed to be in heaven? If we assume that the spirit of Samuel is in heaven, then, how can Saul, who is in rebellion against the Lord, also end up where Samuel is the next day? It seems the spirit is a lying spirit!

    The answer is in the Bible, 1 Chronicles 10:13-14, NIV. "Saul died because he was unfaithful to the Lord; he did not keep the word of the Lord and even consulted a medium for guidance, and did not inquire of the Lord." The medium's spirit was an imposter, for Scripture clearly states that Saul "did not inquire of the Lord."

    In our modern day, just like King Saul of old, people seek counsel from psychic mediums. Several fortune-telling channelers have become wealthy celebrities as a result of predictions published in supermarket tabloids and through counseling well-paying clientele such as Hollywood movie stars, politicians and industrialists. The psychics sometimes claim to be channeling 'Jesus Christ', 'Jehovah God', and 'the Virgin Mary'. But what is the real source of the messages uttered by these spiritists?

    The apostle Paul was once also met with a psychic medium. Luke records what happened to him, Paul, and Silas in the pagan city of Philippi.

    "Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, 'These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.' And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, 'I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.' And he came out that very hour. But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities (Acts 16:16-19, NKJV).

    The spirit of the slave girl that was giving her the ability to do fortune-telling was an evil spirit, a demon, which Paul was able to cast out. It should be noted, that demons have no problem telling some of the truth to hide their deception. Even the demon could acknowledge Paul as serving God and teaching the truth.

    Jesus himself on several occasions was confronted with people controlled by demon spirits, yet still recognized the authority of Jesus. In one instance in Capernaum, "there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit. And he cried out, “What have you to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God.” But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be silent, and come out of him!” And the unclean spirit, convulsing him and crying out with a loud voice, came out of him." (Mark 1:23-26, ESV). Just because a spirit can tell the truth, doesn't mean it is a good spirit.

    At one time these evil spirits were holy angels living in heaven with God. But they rebelled with Satan and were cast down to planet earth. It's in the Bible, Revelation 12:7-9 NIV. "And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

    Because the spirits who respond to the channelers are satanic, channeling is abhorrent to God. There are few who have any true conception of the deceptive power of spiritualism and the danger of coming under its influence. Many tamper with it merely to gratify their curiosity. They have no real faith in it and would be filled with horror at the thought of yielding themselves to the spirits' control. But they venture upon the forbidden ground, and the mighty destroyer exercises his power upon them against their will. Let them once be induced to submit their minds to his direction, and he holds them captive. It is impossible, in their own strength, to break away from the bewitching, alluring spell. Nothing but the power of God, granted in answer to the earnest prayer of faith, can deliver these ensnared souls.

    Among the Israelites, the penalty for anyone practicing spiritism was death. "A man or woman who is a medium or a spiritist among you must be put to death." (Leviticus 20:27, NIV.) God tells us, "And when they say to you, 'Seek those who are mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter,' should not a people seek their God?" (Isaiah 8:19, NKJV). The admonition from heaven is clear. When in need of counsel, we are to seek God. He who assures us, "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land" (2 Chronicles 7:14, NKJV). In seeking God, His Word, the Holy Bible, is to be our guiding light. "Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path" (Psalm 119:105 KJV).

    http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/question...ng-and-mediums

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    On another level, if say I was in contact with some powerful people who regularly told me of things they have planned to do and told me I could tell others but not where I was getting the info from.

    I could set myself up as a psychic and get money from those who found it profitable to get such information. In other words, tell lies that I had the power to tell the future.

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    What would be the Christian view of...

    A Christian owning a bible KJV, and after 2 weeks of heart break blindsided by divorce in a first marriage turned to God's word cleaving the Bible at the very moment a specific question before him.

    "God... why all these tears? What's wrong with me?"

    There was no thunder or lightning or clocks stopping or spinning backwards or black cats runnin across the ceiling and through the wall in a hissie-fit of judgement; instead...

    As I looked down upon the random page that my hands simply opened the Bible to with an open heart and a sincere plea; I found the first tears rolling down upon it fell in a 3/8ths inch wet spot on Ecclesiastics "a time to mourn"...

    As I asked again but why did the marriage fail, then I noticed the verse about "vanity under the sun," working like I did 13 out of 14 shift/days.

    Anyways, that's the short version. I spent the next four years very single, and train like a monk in m/arts, standing zen exercise, and "being still and know"ing my fathers principle of silence. He raised me up. I owe him everything, and ewe no-thing.

    ETA: Clear feeling. Clairsentience is to experience (in my experience) the feeling of things. If I mentioned the words fatal car wreck, most of us have (seen one), and [felt] the effect in your gut (if your lower evolved), or [felt] it from your heart if your spirit is put together above that of a reptilian.

    If you have never considered what Clairsentience is, your not the only one. I had about 30 Clairsentient Precognitions up to around 2007 / 2008, when as a member here I finally came to terms with the actuality of what mathamatically equates between improbable to almost impossible.

    I'm my strongest critic in ascertaining just how my precognitions or psi stuff works. I would never attempt 'readings' or 'fortune telling' or claim anything compared to a prophet. Yet when I feel something strongly, especially evil or evil deeds that effect my country or family I'm on it.

    Prior to 09/11/01 I had one such feeling, and again in the Spring of 2003 as a foreign national was bearing down upon my dad who 'appeared' to be alone in the desert. I was on a hill covering his 06:00 as he was prospecting and into his magnifying glass. If sensing evil things, feeling danger before it physically manifest is evil... Gather up your stones and God bless those stuck in that rut of perspective.
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    China Connection posted all the truth we need to prove whether psychics or mediums are real.

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    So how do you explain the Christian "prophets" and their predictions of the future?
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    Also, I thought the question was "why don't fortune tellers/psychic readers" use their "talents" for personal gain if they have them; and I tried to answer the question at least from a personal point of view - but obviously this thread seems to be mostly about Bible Verses against the practice which is fair enough in context but hardly answers the question.

    Which means either there was no real desire to have the question answered in the first place and/or it was just an excuse to punch the preaching and/or skeptic button...

    I have heard "Christian Prophets" many times and their "track records" seem to match up pretty well with that of most serious psychics or remote viewers; I mean I am dubious about the "prophet" that stood up in Church and declared (after the usual shaking and stammering) that "The Lord Says that Richard Nixon is Innocent and being persecuted by unbelievers" but to each his own...and I'm not Nixon and I certainly don't claim to be God so anything is possible...
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    Recently some television fortune-teller crocked. She ran some late noght commercials for years to call her for your fortune.

    My response when I heard about it?

    "Bet she didn't see that coming."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    Recently some television fortune-teller crocked. She ran some late noght commercials for years to call her for your fortune.

    My response when I heard about it?

    "Bet she didn't see that coming."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Arrow View Post
    So how do you explain the Christian "prophets" and their predictions of the future?
    As a self confessed "witch", I suspect you already know... But for everyone's benefit I will answer to the best of my ability...

    If I know the answer to that question, then I'm responsible to tell the answer (blow the trumpet as a watchman) or I could have blood on my hands... Now with that being said...

    While I'm not speaking for all "Christian" Prophets, I will say that Prophet is one of the 5 fold offices of ministry.

    If you have a Bible, please turn with me to the book of Ephesians, chapter 4, verses 4 through 16... I will post the verses here for those who do not have a Bible or just don't want to go get and open it to the Scripture reference... Nice of me...

    Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit. In the same way you were called to share one hope.
    Eph 4:5 There is one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
    Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over everything, through everything, and in everything.
    Eph 4:7 God's favor has been given to each of us. It was measured out to us by Christ who gave it.
    Eph 4:8 That's why the Scriptures say: "When he went to the highest place, he took captive those who had captured us and gave gifts to people."
    Eph 4:9 Now what does it mean that he went up except that he also had gone down to the lowest parts of the earth?
    Eph 4:10 The one who had gone down also went up above all the heavens so that he fills everything.
    Eph 4:11 He also gave APOSTLES, PROPHETS, MISSIONARIES (evangelists), as well as PASTORS and TEACHERS as gifts to his church.
    Eph 4:12 Their purpose is to prepare God's people, to serve, and to build up the body of Christ.
    Eph 4:13 This is to continue until all of us are united in our faith and in our knowledge about God's Son, until we become mature, until we measure up to Christ, who is the standard.
    Eph 4:14 Then we will no longer be little children, tossed and carried about by all kinds of teachings that change like the wind. We will no longer be influenced by people who use cunning and clever strategies to lead us astray.
    Eph 4:15 Instead, as we lovingly speak the truth, we will grow up completely in our relationship to Christ, who is the head.
    Eph 4:16 He makes the whole body fit together and unites it through the support of every joint. As each and every part does its job, he makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love.

    So, that office, the prophet, is the ONLY prophet God has authorized...

    All others who exercise prophecy outside of the ordained office are practicing a type of "witchcraft" and is either knowingly or unknowingly contacting entities which is not allowed and even the practice of it will guarantee that you will end up in the lake of fire for ever after the Great White Throne Judgement...

    Rev 21:8 But as for cowards and the unfaithful, and the polluted, and murderers, fornicators, and those who practise magic or worship idols, and all liars--the portion allotted to them shall be in the Lake which burns with fire and sulphur. This is the Second Death."

    I know that some of you would rather argue with what God has decreed, but I assure you that MY intention was to offer insight to what may be hidden from you and also to discharge my responsibility as a member of the Body of Christ who has received pardon from sin and stands justified by the Blood of Jesus, in the sight of the Great Judge, God the Father...

    It is a free Gift and I took it!

    Can you see why I even said anything?

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    Actually, that does not answer my question at all. I am inquiring as to how you reconcile a Christian "prophet" who predicts the future (ie Jesus will return on such and such date. The world will end on such and such date), with mystics and fortune tellers. Is that not the exact same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Arrow View Post
    Actually, that does not answer my question at all. I am inquiring as to how you reconcile a Christian "prophet" who predicts the future (ie Jesus will return on such and such date. The world will end on such and such date), with mystics and fortune tellers. Is that not the exact same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Arrow View Post
    Actually, that does not answer my question at all. I am inquiring as to how you reconcile a Christian "prophet" who predicts the future (ie Jesus will return on such and such date. The world will end on such and such date), with mystics and fortune tellers. Is that not the exact same thing?
    Only if the Christian would-be prophet turns out to be a fraud, then, yes.
    OTOH, there ARE some valid prophets in Christian history (none in recent centuries, AFAIK).
    The Bible tells how to discern which are which. Odd One, help me out here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Arrow View Post
    Actually, that does not answer my question at all. I am inquiring as to how you reconcile a Christian "prophet" who predicts the future (ie Jesus will return on such and such date. The world will end on such and such date), with mystics and fortune tellers. Is that not the exact same thing?
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    I love the comics, but I do have to point out that tons of financial people DO rely on astrologers as ONE of their tools used in making decisions; the military/Pentagon did use remote viewers for years as ONE TOOL in gathering information (and I suspect still does today, they probably either just have the program underground or use contractors); one of the "latest" things in the health care field is doctors working with a patient's spirituality and even tribal or other healers (not instead of modern medicine but in an understanding that science has shown that what a patients BELIEVES will help them actually can make a difference in how well they respond to medical treatment).

    As a card reader I get tons of people with questions about business, finance and the like; though I am always careful to remind them that again it is one tool among several and to never-ever make a really life changing decision based on a reading by me or anyone else.

    There's an old joke "Millionaire's don't consult astrologers but Billionaires do"...

    Of course if you believe that something is evil, you probably don't want to use it in your life and that's fine; no one is forced to and there is a lot of fraud in the industry; much of it intentional and sometimes done by people who have a few really impressive early predictions (or readings) and then feel pressure to keep producing "hits" so they either "cheat" or they become immune to being able to admit they are wrong, get defensive and that's the garden path down to eventual failure with a high potential for emotional or mental breakdown.

    That is a serious problem for people whose entire income is from readings or other "mystical" services; it doesn't happen to everyone who does readings or consultations full time but it is a pitfall to be avoided, and it can get really serious for people who make a fairly large income from their businesses.

    I look at mine as a kind of hobby for which I get some modest compensation, similar to when I was weaving trim for reenactors; though a huge part of my job is mostly listening to people for which I use my clergy training and having references to refer people on to the folks they really need to see, which is often some form of professional counselor (marriage or otherwise).

    Many people come to psychic readers/astrologers etc not so much because they want to know the future but because they want to know a way to stop the bleeding (emotional, spiritual or physical); my very first professional reading here was a young women who sat weeping in my office; her boyfriend had beaten her that morning and kicked her out of the house without even her belongings. I was able to convince her to call the battered women's hot line and usually in those types of situations I refuse payment (it has been a long-long time I can't remember what I did in that case).

    When I read for lost pets (which I only get right about 50 percent of the time) I just ask people to donate my fee to their local no-kill animal shelter or SPCA/Rescue if they feel my reading has helped in anyway.

    I don't seek out that sort of reading but when they come my way as a private reading, that is my usual response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Ok, if mystics and fortune tellers can foretell the future, then why do we never hear of them playing and winning the lottery? If I could predict the future, the first thing I would do is know what the next powerball numbers are going to be.

    This is my response to the mystic thread. I did not want to spoil it there. I felt it was so deep over there that I should provide my response here and not offer any offense there.
    It doesn't work that way, sorry but very often the gift is limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melodi View Post
    Also, I thought the question was "why don't fortune tellers/psychic readers" use their "talents" for personal gain if they have them; and I tried to answer the question at least from a personal point of view - but obviously this thread seems to be mostly about Bible Verses against the practice which is fair enough in context but hardly answers the question.

    Which means either there was no real desire to have the question answered in the first place and/or it was just an excuse to punch the preaching and/or skeptic button...
    The only way to keep a thread like this from devolving into a christian bash fest is to post it in the Unexplained forum, where that sort of bashing is off limits.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenwings View Post
    China Connection posted all the truth we need to prove whether psychics or mediums are real.
    Tell us how close you came to those wings. Obviously you fall into the classification of Clear-Knowing, also known as Claircognitive.

    Take your time and convince us how you know things you cannot feel. How would you rationalize your judgements if you had one less or one more sense than the norm?

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    As a sensitive that has worked many years with LEO's across the US, I can only say, when we are supposed to help, we are given details to help. but one must remember the images given to the sensitve have to be interpreted and we can only intpret from things we know. I really cant explain that much better other then we are given visions or information and we have to use what is in our brain to figure out the message...

    one this that was explained to me long ago was this....

    Prophecy is God's Will

    Predictions are man's will and can change with people's free will

    Some have the gift of Prophecy, but my understanding it is given to you by God Himself.

    I wrestled with this subject for a long long time, now I accept who and what I am, and I understand some just can not understand things they never have experienced. I do not know all things, I am not always given insight to help, but when I do, as with healing that will come through me but are FROM Him...I share.


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    4 There are different kinds of gifts, but the same Spirit distributes them. 5 There are different kinds of service, but the same Lord. 6 There are different kinds of working, but in all of them and in everyone it is the same God at work.

    7 Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues,[a] and to still another the interpretation of tongues.[b] 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.
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    15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.

    21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

    27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28 And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? 31 Now eagerly desire the greater gifts.
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    Someone has to be the Skeptic in the Room

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    Hmm

    Most of the responses to this thread have been rather predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    Hmm

    Most of the responses to this thread have been rather predictable.
    I knew that'd be your response!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    Hmm

    Most of the responses to this thread have been rather predictable.
    However, you have to admit that the non-responses have been refreshingly unique & creative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imaginative View Post
    However, you have to admit that the non-responses have been refreshingly unique & creative.
    And all this time you had people fooled about being "outside the box." So predictably packaged, no special labeling is required.

    Just kidding imaginative.

    Obviously serious delving into 'aspects' [other than] medium's or fortune tellers is either not taken seriously, or miss understood by all but a few who have experienced it.

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    SAR01, in your works with various LEO's were you ever successful in finding people in real-time. My reference is to alive and well, perhaps just miles off the grid their folks are used too.

    My younger brother who I liken in ability at times to 'Rain-Man' had gone on walk abouts three times without folks knowing the direction he took off in.

    One one occasion he was gone for 3.25 hours @ about 3.25 MPH= 10.5625 sq miles x 3.142 (PI)= 33.19 Square miles. Any 1 square foot he could have been standing in.

    5,280' x 5,280 = 27,878,400 square feet of a square mile x 33.19 square miles = 925,284,096 square feet. Have you ever stood in line on a 12 x 12 tile that accommodated both feet together. Just shy of one in a billion. Yeah, kiss my @$$ Randi! Troglidites, Trolls, and contrarians are a dime a dozen.

    Sorry for the interruption of testimony...

    I drove straight to him on a path he never set foot on before in his life.

    This is the math of testimony and ability. I did it twice on two of three walk abouts of his. The 3rd walk about I was at work until 03:00 and could not leave the job. No one called to tell me he was out...

    ...Until a (714) area code call came in to me about 01:30 that work morning...

    L.A.B. : "Yes Officer, how can I help you?"

    Officer : "How did you know I was an Officer calling?"

    L.A.B. : "Well, by the sound of the wind blowing in your cell phone, I think you found my brother who may be on a unauthorized walk about on 2nd St (Westminster Blvd) near the Naval Weapons Depot in Seal Beach."

    Officer : "How did you know that?"

    L.A.B. : "I made a promise to my dad long ago, I would be my brothers keeper, and I have strong connections to people I care about."

    Another testimony.

    All that night at work I had the (((feeling))) of my brothers presence SE of my Port location. I trust the LEO's out in Orange County. My brother has a good spirit. He probably talked the Officers ear off. He was just out looking for my best friend, a guy in Huntington Beach CA.

    The year was 2013 IIRC. There is a Seal Beach LEO out there that will never forget that phone call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.A.B. View Post
    And all this time you had people fooled about being "outside the box." So [B]

    Obviously serious delving into 'aspects' [other than] medium's or fortune tellers is either not taken seriously, or miss understood by all but a few who have experienced it.
    On the contrary, a gifted individual might also see a bit of humor and not take himself so seriously.

    Just trying to find a happy medium.

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    Gifted by who????

    One can be gifted by God or Satan. Satan is quite happy to pretend to be God. God on the other hand, is not into fooling people.

    Old Nick can give private information on people surrounding you. The fool thinks he is enlightened and a favorite of God because he is given all this private information on other people. Are you that stupid that you think God operates this way?

    God helps one to help others. Old Nick encourages and helps one to use people to one's own ends.

    Some help others to feel good about themselves. They do not do things out of the goodness of their own heart.

    Jesus says to follow him in service to God to help others. A bit different from the me, me, me, crowd.

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    Jesus ended His description of the cost of discipleship with a breathtaking statement: "Any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:33). “Renouncing” may mean we give up something physically, but more often it means we let go emotionally so that what we possess no longer possesses us. When we become one of His, we cannot continue to belong to this world (1 John 2:15-17). We must make a choice, for we cannot serve both God and Mammon (Matthew 6:24). The rich young ruler, when confronted with that choice, turned his back on Jesus (Luke 18:18-25).

    Suppose you learned that you had been given an all-expense-paid condo on a beach in Tahiti, complete with airfare, a car, food, and a maid. You could brag about your new lifestyle, plan for it, and dream about it. But until you pack up and leave your current home, the new life is never really yours. You cannot live in Tahiti and your current hometown at the same time. Many people approach Christianity the same way. They love the idea of eternal life, escaping hell, and having Jesus at their beck and call. But they are not willing to leave the life they now live. Their desires, lifestyle, and sinful habits are too precious to them. Their lives may exhibit a token change—starting to attend church or giving up a major sin—but they want to retain ownership of everything else. Jesus is speaking in Luke 14 to those with that mindset.

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    So anyone who every had a prayer or two answered after directed to God is the evil child of the corn.


    OK, yeah I get it LOL! Stone the witch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastian View Post
    On the contrary, a gifted individual might also see a bit of humor and not take himself so seriously.

    Just trying to find a happy medium.

    This is all we get from the medium of mediocrity? Grace us beyond your humor with some of your understanding through personal experience. We've got a wee bit more band width on the subject if anyone can get beyond demons, devils, and deluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.A.B. View Post
    Some say we use 10% of our brains. 'I believe' it's more like 4% these days.
    I'm with you, LAB (I know you're being sarcastic) but there are portions of the brain that are still not well understood by scientists. There is also a big difference between going into nature and being "still" (listening to God/universe) vs. getting out a Ouji board and calling down entities to answer questions.

    Your RADAR is an organic function of your brain and has served you well.

    The best I can do is to take myself somewhere with few distractions and just listen. Sometimes just the act of getting away from all hurry, hurry, busy, busy is enough to see that I'm not paying attention to things that I should.

    I think humans have survived this long because there's a portion of our brains that does have a pre-cog function and does keep us out of danger at times.

    That said, I think the TV psychics are frauds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meemur View Post
    That said, I think the TV psychics are frauds.
    Along with televangelists who proclaim "send us money and you prayers will all come true, cus god and I said so!"
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    This is all we get from the medium of mediocrity? Grace us beyond your humor with some of your understanding through personal experience. We've got a wee bit more band width on the subject if anyone can get beyond demons, devils, and deluded.
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