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    2 Berkeley cancels conservative Ann Coulter’s speech over fears of more violent protests

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    Berkeley cancels conservative firebrand Ann Coulter’s speech over fears of more violent protests

    By William Wan
    April 19 at 5:10 PM



    After riots and violent protests in and around their campus during the past three months, officials at the University of California at Berkeley said Wednesday that the school is canceling a planned speech by conservative firebrand Ann Coulter because of safety concerns.

    In a letter to a campus Republican group that invited Coulter to speak, university officials said that they made the decision to cancel Coulter’s appearance after assessing the violence that flared on campus in February, when the same college Republican group invited right-wing provocateur and now-former Breitbart News senior editor Milo Yiannopoulos to speak.

    The violence and protests caused by Yiannopoulos’s invitation garnered national attention and forced officials to put the campus on lockdown. And after the university canceled Yiannopoulos’s talk, President Trump criticized the school and threatened in a tweet to pull federal funds from UC-Berkeley.


    If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view – NO FEDERAL FUNDS?

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 2, 2017


    The decisions by UC-Berkeley to cancel both events involving high-profile conservatives are especially notable given the campus’s role during the 1960s and 1970s as the birthplace of the Free Speech Movement and its long tradition of social protest.

    Coulter said in an email to The Washington Post on Wednesday that the university had been trying to force her to cancel her speech by “imposing ridiculous demands” on her but that she still agreed “to all of their silly requirements.” She said she believes that her speech “has been unconstitutionally banned” by the “public, taxpayer-supported UC-Berkeley.”

    Coulter said the university insisted that her speech take place in the middle of the day, that only students could attend and that the exact venue wouldn’t be announced until the last minute. She said that she agreed with the conditions but that that apparently wasn’t good enough.

    “They just up and announced that I was prohibited from speaking anyway,” Coulter said, noting that her speech topic was to be immigration, the subject of one of her books. “I feel like the Constitution is important and that taxpayer-supported universities should not be using public funds to violate American citizens’ constitutional rights.”

    A conservative national group that was helping to organize the event, Young America’s Foundation, said Coulter also made demands of her own, including that any students engaging in violence be expelled. In her email, Coulter said she is still planning to give her speech, and YAF spokesman Spencer Brown said she has told them that she plans to appear at Berkeley on April 27.

    “If Berkeley wants to have free speech, they are going to get it,” Brown said.

    A university spokesman said the school has not been in direct contact with Coulter but conveyed its concerns with the student group that invited her. He said the university was especially concerned that holding the event in the late afternoon would risk protests and potential violence stretching into the evening when the area would get crowded with commuters and students.

    “Everything we’re doing is so the speaker and students can actually exercise their rights without disruption,” Berkeley spokesman Dan Mogulof said. “It’s unfortunate that there are people who think the university’s efforts to keep students and the speaker herself safe are ‘silly.’ ”

    On Wednesday, university officials said they hope to reschedule Coulter’s event for sometime in September, and they emphasized that they are not canceling her event because of her controversial nature or sharply conservative views.

    “It has nothing to do with anyone’s political views. We believe in unqualified support to the First Amendment. But we also have an unqualified focus on safety of our students,” Mogulof said. “We are going to be making a concerted effort to explain the reasons behind this.”

    On Saturday, protests again turned violent — though in the city of Berkeley, not the university campus — as pro-Trump and anti-Trump protesters clashed in the streets. The violence on Saturday was further heightened later in the day as far-left activists and far-right activists joined the fray.

    And on Tuesday at Auburn University in Alabama, three people were arrested amid protests and a fistfight that occurred over a speech by self-proclaimed white nationalist leader Richard Spencer.

    At Berkeley, university officials said the recent violence has caused them to rethink where and when to hold such events. In their letter, university officials also partly blamed the college Republican group for inviting Coulter and setting a date for the event — April 27 — without consulting the university.

    Officials learned of Coulter’s event, the letter said, from reading about it in newspapers. And after consulting with university police, officials said, they could not find a venue available on that date that would allow them to protect Coulter, the audience and bystanders.
    A "principled conservative" reminds us how important it is to not be vulgar. Funny how when there’s a fight to be fought, they’re never anywhere to be found.

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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...earance-995610

    Ann Coulter Vows to Speak at Berkeley After University Cancels Her Appearance

    1:38 PM PDT 4/19/2017
    by Paul Bond

    "Yes, it was officially banned," said the political commentator and author. "But they can't stop me. I'm an American. I have constitutional rights."

    It appears UC Berkeley is in for another political brawl, this time with Ann Coulter, who tells The Hollywood Reporter that she'll speak at the famously progressive campus even though administrators are trying to prevent her from doing so.

    "Yes, it was officially banned," Coulter said of her planned April 27 appearance. "But they can't stop me. I'm an American. I have constitutional rights."

    Coulter had accepted an invitation from two campus groups — the Berkeley College Republicans and BridgeUSA — to deliver a speech about immigration, the topic of one of her 12 New York Times best-selling books.

    "If that's banned, then no conservative can speak," Coulter told THR on Wednesday. "Meanwhile, corrupt banana republic leaders like Vicente Fox have the red carpet rolled out for them on the taxpayer's dime."

    Fox, the former president of Mexico, spoke in Berkeley this week.

    On Wednesday, though, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that the powers that be at Berkeley ordered that Coulter's speech be canceled, citing riots that erupted when Milo Yiannopoulos and other conservatives have visited the university.

    Coulter told THR that before they canceled her, Berkeley administrators insisted that she agree to a list of demands prior to her engagement, and that she accepted their terms.

    "I've acceded to all their silly demands, which they thought would end it. When I said, 'yes, yes, yes,' they canceled anyway. No more clear-cut proof that taxpayer-supported universities will not allow conservative speakers," Coulter told THR.

    "We have been unable to find a safe and suitable venue for your planned April 27 event featuring Ann Coulter," Berkeley's vice chancellors told the two groups who were set to co-host the event.

    "I'm giving a speech," countered Coulter. "Speech will go on."
    A "principled conservative" reminds us how important it is to not be vulgar. Funny how when there’s a fight to be fought, they’re never anywhere to be found.

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    She said on Tucker Carlson tonight that she was giving a speech - time unknown - daytime or night.
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    I find it rather ironic that the liberals were screeching that free speech would be killed by Trump and yet it's only the liberals that's killing free speech. Hypocrits.
    People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe not willing to risk failure.

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    Maybe Berkeley not the bastion of intellectual acumen they think they are?

    Maybe any US Government Student Loans to go to Berkeley should be pulled henceforth?

    Maybe any US Government Funding of Berkeley should be pulled henceforth?

    Methinks these would cause a "sea change" at Berkeley.

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    There's an elephant in the room that is being studiously overlooked. That is, why can the campus not police it's own occupants? Why are violent protests permitted at all? Sure, free speech means people can protest. But violence is a crime and they are two separate things.

    If the campus can't regulate behavior on it's property, and TEACH those protestors that their right to free speech STOPS at the point they destroy property or harm people... then they've epically failed in their primary directive as a seat of learning.

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    So basically tptb are showing that violent protesters can continue being violent and impose their will and get their way.

    I would have brought in more security and had them arrested.
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    Good for her. I don't have time to listen to the talk radio around here, but according to DH, the conservative supporters will be better prepared after that last fiasco. The local police basically disarmed any protective/defensive supplies for the last speaker (like garbage can lids) and let the other side bring in anything they wanted to.

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    Helicopter her on to the roof and let her in first, then the police can control who goes in to listen. She won't be in danger and the protesters won't even see her. All the action will be outside.
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    Id bet, the reason why it was canceled, they are afraid real Americans will once again show up and kick the commies ass, like last weekend. They want to protect their commie baby's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacajawea View Post
    There's an elephant in the room that is being studiously overlooked. That is, why can the campus not police it's own occupants? Why are violent protests permitted at all? Sure, free speech means people can protest. But violence is a crime and they are two separate things.

    If the campus can't regulate behavior on it's property, and TEACH those protestors that their right to free speech STOPS at the point they destroy property or harm people... then they've epically failed in their primary directive as a seat of learning.
    It's not that they can't, it's that they choose not to do so. As a public university suckling on the teats of both the State and Federal governments, they have to at least pretend that they're not all Commie pinkos just pining for a revolution, but without the balls to do anything themselves.

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    Solve the problem permanently.

    Arclight Berkeley.

    Or MOAB it.
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    If I was Annie, I wouldn't even bother.

    They're all too crazy.

    So when's the Revolution? God or Money? Choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    Solve the problem permanently.

    Arclight Berkeley.

    Or MOAB it.
    Hell of an idea!!
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    Probably the best thing to do would be for the conservative speakers to have large engagements at more conservative venues, and for everyone to ignore and make irrelevant places like Berkeley. They like being in the news, they like thinking that they actually have some meaning in life. Take that away from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeholder View Post
    Probably the best thing to do would be for the conservative speakers to have large engagements at more conservative venues, and for everyone to ignore and make irrelevant places like Berkeley. They like being in the news, they like thinking that they actually have some meaning in life. Take that away from them.

    Kathleen
    Interesting point.

    What value does Berkeley bring to our culture and country?

    "If it bleeds, it leads," seems to be all that they are known for, recently - and I cannot think of one other thing that they have been involved with over the last couple/three decades, that is worth discussing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobbin View Post
    Maybe Berkeley not the bastion of intellectual acumen they think they are?

    Maybe any US Government Student Loans to go to Berkeley should be pulled henceforth?

    Maybe any US Government Funding of Berkeley should be pulled henceforth?

    Methinks these would cause a "sea change" at Berkeley.

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    The horse knows of what he speaks, though I'd prefer that sea change be a tsunami and the entire place be closed permanently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacajawea View Post
    There's an elephant in the room that is being studiously overlooked. That is, why can the campus not police it's own occupants? Why are violent protests permitted at all? Sure, free speech means people can protest. But violence is a crime and they are two separate things.

    If the campus can't regulate behavior on it's property, and TEACH those protestors that their right to free speech STOPS at the point they destroy property or harm people... then they've epically failed in their primary directive as a seat of learning.
    You are assuming that one of the goals of Berkeley is education, rather than conditioning.
    “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
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    Thank you Sacajawea! I thought the same thing, once a protest becomes violent, it is no longer a protest and shall be dealt with immediately by stopping it!

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    It's on again.
    The college president changed his mind after Mark Levin begged his listeners to contact their friends and all contact President Trump, the Governor of California and the college president, urging him to nationalize the Cali National Guard like Kennedy did back in the 60s against George Wallace.
    The President has the authority to do it, Levin called for AG Sessions to personally escort her to the podium through a protective cordon of National Guard who would also be authorized to quell any violence and rioting.

    Don't the the National Guard is going to be called out, but they should be.
    Anyway the Berkely Pres changed his mind and the speech is on again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intothatgoodnight View Post
    Interesting point.

    What value does Berkeley bring to our culture and country?

    "If it bleeds, it leads," seems to be all that they are known for, recently - and I cannot think of one other thing that they have been involved with over the last couple/three decades, that is worth discussing.


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    The horse knows of what he speaks, though I'd prefer that sea change be a tsunami and the entire place be closed permanently.
    Lets not pitch baby with the bath water.

    Science research at Berkeley.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ornia+Berkeley
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    Hold it up in Contra Costa County near BART, easy access and a different Sheriff's Department...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Housecarl View Post
    Hold it up in Contra Costa County near BART, easy access and a different Sheriff's Department...
    You workin 3rds again??
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    Quote Originally Posted by night driver View Post
    Lets not pitch baby with the bath water.

    Science research at Berkeley.

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ornia+Berkeley
    Thanks for the links, Chuck. My comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, though not entirely.

    I can name at least FIVE (probably TEN, if I think about it) other universities, where significant, cutting-edge R&D has been conducted/is being conducted, and that have NONE of the behavior problem-children acting-out on a predictable schedule.

    I am still of the opinion that there is little that is academically unique about Berkeley, that cannot also be said of other institutions of higher learning.


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