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GOV/MIL Comey Hearing on Trump Being Spied on and 'THE RUSSIANS' Live Now
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  1. #81
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    Most recent Q&A's...

    1:19 PM: Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) tries to get Comey to say that Trump’s “wiretap” tweet is “false.” Comey disagrees and reiterates that he does not have evidence suggesting Trump’s claim was correct.

    Ken Dilanian


    Comey just made a really important point about "co-optees," who don't realize they are working for a foreign government.
    12:14 PM - 20 Mar 2017

    Karen DaltonBeninato


    "You can do things to help a foreign nation state without realizing it."
    Is Comey giving Trump a Too Dumb for Treason Excuse?

    12:48 PM: Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) asks Comey and Rogers about Rex Tillerson in relation to the Trump-Russia conspiracy. Both say that they are not in a position to discuss whether Putin benefits from Tillerson serving as Secretary of State.
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by L.A.B. View Post
    Be Well. Forgive me as I make a bit of a assumption. I'm sure with your background and understanding you are aware of The Greatest Hurdle of The American Mind in reguards to the covert and pragmatic subversion thereof.

    'The American Ego'

    The Communist Science of Human Conditioning long ago mastered the art of man's mind. Understanding the nuance of culture is the fine seam of the Red Tailor.

    Hey too kool Amerika. I've been watching you highly impressionable ego-driven base nature types since the 60's as an extremely cognitive biological recording organism as a human in CONUS. I've just one question, somewhat along the lines of Skip1...

    March 8th 1917 - March 20th 2017.

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    We're playing our last hand with The Trump Card!

    Time to drain the swamp, and rake the muck.
    Old Zen story comes to mind, about the proud student Know-It-All, the silent teacher, and the full cup that can't hold any more.
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  3. #83
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    The Hollywood metaphor for today's hearings. Forget the messenger, listen to the metaphor.

    Jodi Foster on a scene from 'The Deer Hunter'

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  4. #84
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    If the Republicans don't do their questioning in the morning meeting, they can save their time for questions during the classified closed session later. I think this is what they will do. Peter King (R-NY) said he would be asking more much later.
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buick Electra View Post
    Comey stated this investigation has been going on since LAST JULY!! Hmmm. who was POTUS last July? Who was Dir. at DOJ back then? Who was Dir at NSA???

    It doesn't taken Einstein to figure out WHO ordered investigation into Trump and when.
    See [B]bold[B], below

    "Did Obama Spy on Trump?

    The question of whether former President Barack Obama actually spied on President Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign and transition has been tantalizing Washington since President Trump first made the allegation nearly two weeks ago. Since then, three investigations have been launched — one by the FBI, one by the House of Representatives and one by the Senate. Are the investigators chasing a phantom, or did this actually happen?

    Here is the back story.

    Obama would not have needed the warrant to authorize surveillance on Trump. Obama was the president and as such enjoyed authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to order surveillance on any person in America, without suspicion, probable cause or a warrant.

    FISA contemplates that the surveillance it authorizes will be for national security purposes, but this is an amorphous phrase and an ambiguous standard that has been the favorite excuse of most modern presidents for extraconstitutional behavior. In the early 1970s, President Richard Nixon used national security as a pretext to deploying the FBI and CIA to spy on students and even to break into the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, one of his tormentors.

    FISA was enacted in the late 1970s to force the federal government to focus its surveillance activities — its domestic national security-based spying — on only those people who were more likely than not agents of a foreign government. Because FISA authorizes judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to make rules and establish procedures for surveillance — essentially lawmaking — in secret, the public and the media have been largely kept in the dark about the nature and extent of the statute and the legal and moral rationale for the federal government’s spying on everyone in the U.S.

    The mass spying that these judges have ruled FISA authorizes is directly counter to the wording, meaning and purpose of FISA itself, which was enacted to prevent just what it has in fact now unleashed.

    We now know indisputably that this secret FISA court — whose judges cannot keep records of their own work and have their pockets and briefcases checked by guards as they enter and leave the courthouse — has permitted all spying on everyone all the time.

    The FISA court only hears lawyers for the government, and they have convinced it that it is more efficient to capture the digital versions of everyone’s phone calls, texts, emails and other digital traffic than it is to force the government — as the Constitution requires — to focus on only those who there is reason to believe are more likely than not engaging in unlawful acts.

    When FISA was written, telephone surveillance was a matter of wiretapping — installing a wire onto the target’s telephone line, either inside or outside the home or business and listening to or recording in real time the conversations that were audible on the tapped line.

    Today the National Security Agency has 24/7 access to the mainframe computers of all telecom providers and all computer service providers and to all digital traffic carried by fiber optics in the U.S. The NSA has had this access pursuant to FISA court orders issued in 2005 and renewed every 90 days. The FISA court has based its rulings on its own essentially secret convoluted logic, never subjected to public scrutiny. That has resulted in the universal surveillance state in which we in America now live. The NSA has never denied this.

    Thus, in 2016, when Trump says the surveillance of him took place, Obama needed only to ask the NSA for a transcript of Trump’s telephone conversations to be prepared from the digital versions that the NSA already possessed. Because the NSA has the digital version of every telephone call made to, from and within the U.S. since 2005, if President Obama last year wanted transcripts of Trump’s calls made at any time, the NSA would have been duty-bound to provide them, just as it would be required to provide transcripts of Obama’s calls today if President Trump wanted them.

    But if Obama did order the NSA to prepare transcripts of Trump’s conversations last fall under the pretext of national security — to find out whether Trump was communicating with the Russians would have been a good excuse — there would exist somewhere a record of such an order. For that reason, if Obama did this, he no doubt used a source on which he’d leave no fingerprints.

    Enter James Bond.

    Sources have told Fox News that the British foreign surveillance service, the Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump’s calls. The NSA has given GCHQ full 24/7 access to its computers, so GCHQ — a foreign intelligence agency that, like the NSA, operates outside our constitutional norms — has the digital versions of all electronic communications made in America in 2016, including Trump’s. So by bypassing all American intelligence services, Obama would have had access to what he wanted with no Obama administration fingerprints.

    Thus, when senior American intelligence officials denied that their agencies knew about this, they were probably being truthful. Adding to this ominous scenario is the fact that three days after Trump’s inauguration, the head of GCHQ, Robert Hannigan, abruptly resigned, stating that he wished to spend more time with his family.

    I hope the investigations of Trump’s allegation discover and reveal the truth — whatever it is. But the lesson here is terribly serious. We face the gravest threat to personal liberty since the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 proscribed criticism of the government. We have an unelected, unnamed, unaccountable elite group in the intelligence community manipulating the president at will and possessing intimate, detailed knowledge about all of us that it can reveal. We have statutes that have given the president unconstitutional powers that have apparently been used. And we have judges on secret courts facilitating all this as if the Constitution didn’t exist.

    For how much longer will we have freedom?"
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  6. #86
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    And that is why, DHR43, Obunghole is presently on a small obscure Fuji Island finding a happy place and sucking his thumb or whatever.
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  7. #87

    Trump aide. You will be surprised when the evidence comes out...

    Remember Trump lets the opposition spin their narrative and then drops the truth bomb

    Omarosa on Trump's Wiretap Claims: 'I Think You'll Be Surprised'

    Americans may be surprised about the information that comes out regarding President Donald Trump's claims about being wiretapped, Omarosa Manigault said Monday.

    "I think it's important for the American people to really watch how this story unfolds this morning. I think you will be a bit surprised," Manigault, a Trump aide, told Fox News' "Fox & Friends" program.

    "I think you will be surprised, because the first and most important thing is the president wants to be totally transparent with the American people," she added.

    "When people start asking questions about how the story came about, the first thing you do is pick up the New York Times. And they are talking about wiretapping, and then everybody has amnesia all of a sudden," she continued.

    "These aren't stories that we came up with. This was coverage that took place throughout the last year, what was happening at Trump Tower.

    "Folks at home should ask themselves if the Democrats didn't have Russia to talk about, what would their message be?

    "They have squandered an opportunity to reach out to Democrats across this country because they have been so obsessed on a story where there is nothing there. There is no there. They will see that this morning, which is why they are trying to temper people's expectations," she said, noting that some Democrats have said not to expect major announcements.

    Manigault was Trump's director of African-American outreach during his presidential campaign. She was a memorable contestant on the first season of Trump's reality show "The Apprentice."

  8. #88

    Trey Gowdy Reminds Comey that Obama Officials Leaking Against Trump Face up to 10 Years in Prison (VIDEO)

    Jim Hoft Mar 20th, 2017 11:59 am 148 Comments

    Rep. Trey Gowdy grilled FBI Director James Comey on the several intelligence leaks that made headlines this year.

    The leaks to the liberal media were meant to damage Trump administration officials.

    Rep. Gowdy: I thought it was against the law to disseminate classified information. Is it?

    Director Comey: Oh yes. It’s a serious crime.
    Gowdy then reminded Comey that the Obama officials who leaked the classified information face up to ten years in prison.

    2.38 minute video, can't embed here.
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  9. #89

    James Comey Just Explained How Establishment Media Legally Creates Fake News

    Posted on March 20, 2017 by DCWhispers

    Check out this quote from FBI Director James Comey’s testimony to Congress today:

    “…It’s perfectly legal for someone attending a classified briefing to LIE TO THE PRESS about what they heard in that meeting. The FBI cannot go out and correct the record because then they’d be “commenting on Classified information…”

    The New York Times or the Washington Post, or CNN, etc., come out with an anti-Trump story based on “government sources” which bolster the anti-Trump slant, and/or attempts to discredit the Trump White House’s take on events such as the bogus investigation into links between Russia and the 2016 Election.
    That very scenario has been happening time and time again and James Comey just admitted to Congress the FBI cannot come out and correct the record because they would then be in violation of publicly speaking about classified information.
    The media is protected because it is spinning a lie, and therefore NOT classified information, even as that lie becomes fact in the minds of the media’s audience. Once again, here are FBI Director James Comey’s words on that very subject as spoken to Congress today:
    “…It’s perfectly legal for someone attending a classified briefing to LIE TO THE PRESS about what they heard in that meeting. The FBI cannot go out and correct the record because then they’d be “commenting on Classified information…”
    Don’t listen to anything the Establishment Media is telling you. They are not doing the bidding of truth. Rather, they are the willing denizens of the lie.
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  10. #90
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    Is Comey under oath?

    Also, I seem to have read somewhere that Comey has a 10 year appointment and cannot be fired. Didn't he, himself, joke about it and say something to the effect that "You're still stuck with me" .. . . .

    ETA: Comey CAN be fired. Clinton fired William S. Sessions. An FBI director can also be removed by congress, through the impeachment process.
    Last edited by Seeker; 03-20-2017 at 03:25 PM.
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  11. #91
    At least we can count on Trey Gowdy to carry some water.
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  12. #92
    Gowdy is doing what he can do. Sessions can do the rest. Haven't heard much about the DOJ/AG Sessions lately. I am sure it is not because they are not doing anything, though.

    ETA: Just saw this comment:

    Comey admitted “surveillance” & to most people that=wiretaps.
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  13. Gowdy Questioning

    Trey Gowdy Finds Out FBI Director James Comey Won't Obey The Law & He's Pissed

    Check out 13:24
    "We the American People, give certain powers to Government, to keep us safe and when those powers are misused and the motive is not criminal investigation or national security....then I'll bet you my fellow Citizens are rethinking their side of the equation."
    Last edited by skoaldiak; 03-20-2017 at 04:30 PM. Reason: added quote
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  14. #94
    Wasn't just last week that Comey came out publicly to set the record straight concerning Trump's tweets???? What a effing lying bag of shite....

  15. #95
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    "Gowdy Mode Activated"

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  16. #96
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    Good recap of the hearing where it boils down to ONE QUESTION....UNASKED
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  17. #97
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    Around 1:20pm today they were giving examples of meetings and how they would consider them. They spoke of a meeting (conference?) in Europe in April of 2016. Apparently Trump denied any knowledge (or simply did not know) but the Congress critter (Quigley) had the basics and then the magic word came up - PERJURY - which would, of course, be an impeachable offense.

    Can someone here fill in the blanks, please? I was watching the hearings on a TV in a store and had to move along. Thanks.
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  18. #98
    No Ben lying is okay according today's proceedings. Besides lying not under oath in the course of campaigns is allowed anyway.

  19. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubble Head View Post
    Comey refuses to say either because of threat to life and family or loyalty to the forces of evil. We will have to ask the NY Times who authorized the wire tap.

    His lack of answers implies guilt. It should be played over and over again. "I can not answer that question." So has anyone asked him why he can't answer other than it is against his principals? This is a hearing, he has one chance to come clean. Get with it Comey.

    Or he's just following the law ,there are very few damn the politics, full steam ahead ,steel jawed gunfighter FBI Agents anymore. Hell while they do have a Veterans recruitment program they really don't look for real cops to be FB1 agents anymore. He could just be a lawyer with a gun and a badge. A lot of the questions they asked would have involved revealing names of folks in the open which is in part what the cussing and fussing is about. I am no fan of FB1 or any of the spook agencies and I feel they have too much power with little oversight.
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