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ENVR California's Lake Oroville Dam Spillway Suffers Major Damage
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    Did they repair or replace the gates?
    Total cost would be interesting to know.

    Thanks again Bardou!

    Jeff
    Strange times are causing stranger measures...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Normallguy View Post
    Did they repair or replace the gates?
    Total cost would be interesting to know.

    Thanks again Bardou!

    Jeff
    I don't know if they replaced the gates. I know they always leaked whenever I walked over the spillway and the water was gushing out of either the top or the bottom. I always thought it was scary and I walked as fast as I could across the spillway. I'll try to find out but I doubt it. I would have heard something about it. I'll also find out the total cost of the repairs...it's in the billions. I think Paradise is worse off than the spillway - monetarily wise.

    I did a Google on the repair costs and several news agencies is saying $1.1 billion for repair.

    https://fox40.com/2018/09/05/orovill...t-1-1-billion/

    DWR also gave a presentation about the vegetation known as the “green spot” on the face of the dam, which Gallagher said “helped dissuade concerns about a piping issue.” The assemblyman said there was also a discussion about the spillway gates, which the department has been monitoring closely.

    Tests have shown them to be stable, but the department will continue to assess whether the gates need to be repaired or even replaced, he said. Gallagher said he is focused on long-term changes to the facility and its operations.

    “I do feel confident that once this is done we’re definitely going to have a much better, stronger spillway, the spillway we always should have had,” he said.

    More here at the link:

    https://www.chicoer.com/2018/10/31/c...-dam-spillway/
    People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk. Ayn Rand

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    Crock of BS!


    Dam Sexism and Racism

    Or are nepotism, faulty design, and coverups to blame?

    By Lloyd Billingsley
    08 Feb 2019 3:09 pm

    Officials of the Oroville Dam, the Sacramento Bee reports, “stole equipment, cooked financial books to conceal wrongdoing, destroyed evidence and fostered a toxic culture of sexual and racial harassment that included slurs and nooses hung where a black worker would find them.”

    Female Department of Water Resources employees suffered “similar derogatory treatment,” a lawsuit recently filed in Sacramento also charges. The case includes declarations from UC Davis sociology professor Kimberlee Shauman and Cal State Sacramento management professor Amy Mickel, who contend that “a toxic workplace culture could have factored into the spillway failure.” Californians have good cause to place the blame elsewhere.

    Oroville Dam was constructed in 1968 and remains the nation’s highest dam. On February 7, 2017, the dam’s concrete spillway failed, launching fears of a complete dam failure, and forcing the evacuation of 188,000 people. Government engineers knew for decades that the alternate earthen spillway was unreliable but failed to reinforce it with concrete. As Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA) famously put it, the dirt spillway “worked fine until it had to be used, in which case it didn’t work so well.”

    Governor Jerry Brown told reporters he was unaware of warnings about the emergency spillway and added, “I’m glad we found out about it.” As Brown explained, “We live in a world of risk. Stuff happens and we respond.” As it happens, one of the government’s first moves was to dam up the flow of information on safety issues.

    Governor Brown and state water bureaucrats blocked access to the dam’s design specifications, federal inspection reports, technical documents, and other crucial information. Much of that emerged in Independent Forensic Team Report: Oroville Dam Spillway Incident, a 584-page report that chalks up the disaster to “a complex interaction of relatively common physical, human, organizational, and industry factors, starting with the design of the project and continuing until the incident.”

    On page 59 of this document, readers learn that the principal designer for both Oroville spillways “was hired directly from a university post-graduate program, with prior engineering employment experience limited to one or two summers.” And the designer had “no prior professional experience designing spillways” and “no instruction on spillway design” in college coursework. The forensic team “finds it striking that such an inexperienced engineer was given the responsibility of designing the spillways of what is still the tallest dam in the US.”

    Whether or not they live near the dam, California taxpayers may find it striking that this massive, detailed report fails to name this non-engineer. A longtime DWR employee denied that there was any such person, which Californians might take as confirmation that there was.

    Though obviously unqualified and incompetent, this person’s political connections were doubtless strong. That’s the simplest explanation why the incompetent grad student got the job and why the expert team keeps the identity a secret. Taxpayers statewide have good cause to regard the report as part of the ongoing cover-up of nepotism, faulty design, and improper maintenance.

    Now comes a lawsuit blaming the spillway failure on a “toxic workplace culture” of racism and sexism. If Californians see this lawsuit as part of the coverup, it would be hard to blame them. Californians might also recall the response of Gov. Jerry Brown when he was informed of lingering safety risks on the new $6.5 billion span of the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge, built with cheap Chinese steel.

    https://californiaglobe.com/local/da...sm-and-racism/

    What I saw on a daily basis for well over 10 years was lack of maintenance. The maintenance I did see done on the spillway were contractors sealing the cracks in the upper and lower spillway. Once a year in the summer, a maintenance crew would get the hose out and clean off the pigeon and swallow poop from the gates and headway to the gates. They did install a hawk screeching machine in the spillway to keep the pigeons away, but all that did was bring more pigeons in. HA! The pigeons landed on the fake hawk screeching machine and pooped all over it. They can blame it on whatever and whoever they like, the blame lies squarely with no maintenance and money from Sacramento to fix it. Actually, they were probably waiting for the day to fail to fix it properly. Now that the work is done, the finger pointing has begun. Those responsible have long been retired or dead.

    As Brown told reporters, “I mean, look, shit happens.”

    https://californiaglobe.com/local/da...sm-and-racism/
    People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk. Ayn Rand

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    Why does none of this surprise me.
    This had a beginning but seems to have no end.
    Bardou you are a digger!

    Jeff
    Strange times are causing stranger measures...

    1Cor 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these [is] charity.
    I Believe in a Just God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Normallguy View Post
    Why does none of this surprise me.
    This had a beginning but seems to have no end.
    Bardou you are a digger!

    Jeff
    As Bardou told Timebombers, I mean, look, shit happens.
    People create their own questions because they are afraid to look straight. All you have to do is look straight and see the road, and when you see it, don't sit looking at it - walk. Ayn Rand

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    Ran across this on another forum, a you tube film of building Oroville Dam. My wife's uncle worked on the Dam building tunnels for the power house.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=how5...ature=youtu.be
    Last edited by HDC; 02-11-2019 at 02:16 PM. Reason: punctuation change

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