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ENVR California's Lake Oroville Dam Spillway Suffers Major Damage!
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    https://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?ORO

    Current lake elevation and flow data.

    Per the link the lake is rising at 0.8 feet per hour. At the current rates, the emergency spillway tops over in 16 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeping Cobra View Post
    There is no way they can use the spillway.
    They have no choice. Water gotta flow.

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    Anybody think it's crazy that there's no evacuation notices?

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    The spillway is being used now. Per the link above, the outflow is about 42,000 cfs IIRC the turbines can only take about 15,000 cfs. The balance has to be going down the spilllway.
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    Damn!
    It's getting bad fast. Lots of pics and videos out there now, not one of them looks good.
    Have to say I'll be looking for more later tonight and Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bw View Post
    They have no choice. Water gotta flow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruckmanite View Post
    The spillway is being used now. Per the link above, the outflow is about 42,000 cfs IIRC the turbines can only take about 15,000 cfs. The balance has to be going down the spilllway.
    The inflow numbers keep going up in rather large increments,

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    Dam spokesman. It's ok to go into the water.
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    Lake Oroville Webcam

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas321 View Post
    Dam spokesman. It's ok to go into the water.
    LOL!

    Hey, look who showed up!
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    The lake is rising very fast, considering how huge it is. Warm storm, melting snow. Everything in flood plain below dam should already be evacuated. Most ppl do not do their own research like we do here, so they are not informed.

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    How much more rain is predicted? If they use the collapsed spillway, will it not compromise the dam? Surely they have warned the people downstream.
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    How much more rain is predicted? If they use the collapsed spillway, will it not compromise the dam? Surely they have warned the people downstream.
    The spillway is well removed from the dam. The danger seems to be that the spillway will erode uphill as water flows down it. If it gets far enough to erode under the spillway gates, then all bets are off. It will all go exponential.

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    Well this is special. The land is sinking. They are actually saying California is toast. Really. Very Doom.

    http://www.water.ca.gov/news/newsrel...ease_final.pdf

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    There is flooding elsewhere. There have been evacuations in Dunsmuir hours north of there and in Redding/Red Bluff for the Upper Sacramento. There is flooding in Mt Shasta as the infrastructure can't handle the water. My old Scott Valley floor is a lake, but that happens in high water flooding.
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    I live 1 mile from the dam and I walk it every day over the spillway and to the boat ramp. There's no way to get any equipment to the hole. Equipment must go through the gates where the water is released down the spillway. Water is blocking the gates. Let's just say, we're up $hits Creek without a paddle. If water is released to travel down through the power plant below the dam, it could wipe out the plant. This is a big deal. For tptb to say it isn't is in panic control mode. BTW, no water for so calif. We get our water from Strawberry Valley up above Lake Oroville so where I live we're not affected by this.

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    Bardou, leave NOW. Drive to much higher ground far away.

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    Oroville Dam spillway blowout 2-9-17 Lake Orovile



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    Video of the spillway collapsing from earlier today.

    https://youtu.be/fd3_LB5N5Xg

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    This video from a few hours ago shows the spillway is now damaged for the entire width.
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    FEBRUARY 9, 2017 12:41 PM, BY RYAN SABALOW, DALE KASLER AND PHILLIP REESE
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    As water climbs toward brim of Oroville Dam, state braces for first-ever use of emergency spillway

    OROVILLE DAM EMERGENCY SPILLWAY
    Water could flow over the never-used spillway on Saturday, potentially dislodging trees and sediment as it rushes down the exposed hillside.



    With stormwater and snowmelt pouring into the reservoir faster than expected, the operator of the crippled Oroville Dam raised the possibility of having to release water from the facility’s emergency spillway as soon as Saturday – a last-ditch alternative that officials had been hoping to avoid.

    William Croyle, director of the state Department of Water Resources, told reporters Thursday evening that water levels in Lake Oroville could reach the brim sometime Saturday, forcing activation of the emergency spillway. The emergency system, which has never been used, would dump water onto an exposed hillside, dislodging trees and earthen debris into the Feather River and potentially affect communities downstream.

    If the emergency spillway has to be used, “you’re going to get a lot of debris and erosion,” Croyle said.

    The cavernous fracture in the dam’s main spillway continued to grow Thursday, splitting the massive flood-control structure in two and sending a powerful rush of sediment and debris into the Feather River that threatened the lives of millions of fish at a principal downstream hatchery.

    The dam was releasing about 40,000 cubic feet of water per second Thursday afternoon, Croyle said, including about 35,000 cfs from the damaged main spillway. But that was not enough to compensate for the 190,000 cfs pouring into the reservoir from continued storms in the vast Sierra Nevada watershed that feeds the Feather River and its tributaries.

    “This storm came in a little warmer, a little wetter,” he said.

    Use of the emergency spillway could be avoided if the rain stops, or officials are able to ramp up water releases from the damaged main spillway to bring down lake levels, he said.

    Following two controlled tests, the Department of Water Resources began releasing water at a continuous flow over the main spillway shortly before 11 a.m. Thursday. Water, along with chunks of mud, gushed down the concrete chute, with some of it spilling out of the channel and onto an adjacent hillside.

    With engineers unable to release normal outflows through the damaged spillway, water levels behind the dam continued to rise Thursday. The reservoir added about 205,000 acre-feet of water in the 24 hours prior to 2 p.m. Thursday. By the evening, the lake was at 887 feet, or 14 feet below the brim.

    Emergency officials said they were preparing evacuation contingency plans in the event conditions continue to deteriorate and create a flood risk downstream. “If we need them to evacuate, we have the mechanism,” said Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea. He urged residents to sign up for alerts at the Sheriff Department’s website or to call 530-538-7826 for updates.

    Honea added that he didn’t believe evacuations would become necessary. Threats to human life “are remote at this point,” he said.

    The damaged spillway sits beside the main earthen dam that holds back Lake Oroville, the state’s second largest reservoir and a central piece of California’s government-run water delivery network. The dam can store 3.5 million acre-feet of water, which is divvied out through the year for farming and drinking water needs across great stretches of California. Much of Southern California’s drinking water is stored in the reservoir.

    The dam also is a critical piece of the state’s flood-control infrastructure, protecting downstream communities including Oroville, Marysville and Sacramento. The spillway is generally operational only in the rainy season, as a flood-control outlet. Routine water deliveries flow through a power plant at the dam.

    DWR officials acknowledged that continued use of the cracked main spillway would cause additional erosion, and might well wipe out the entire bottom half of the structure. As it was, the two test runs held Wednesday roughly doubled the size of the crater that was discovered in the spillway Tuesday, to the point that it severed the concrete, side to side, into two halves.

    Kevin Dossey, a DWR engineer, said the department thinks the upper portion of the spillway sits on a layer of solid bedrock. That means officials should be able to continue using the chute without causing serious erosion in the upper reaches, where the spillway gates could be compromised.

    “It’s going to continue to chew down,” he said, but “they are very confident it won’t continue to erode to a point of danger.”

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    WOWWWWW!

    That is heavy-duty, bad news.

    The whole thing is out of control.

    Guessing there are a herd of engineers, all in formation, kissing their ass goodbye.
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    4 Raw Video: Oroville Dam Spillway on Thursday

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    I have only witnessed a small earthen dam with a spillway that failed. The failure moved up the spill way and took out part of the dam. Mind you it was small with no damage below. I am assuming the same thing will happen on a larger scale as the spill way fails it eats the earth up toward the lake and becomes an out of control larger spillway. Possibly removing dirt toward the Dam itself.

    I don't think I would wait for a California politician or engineer to tell me to get out of the way. It looks like a lot of water and possibly a couple of hydro plants are on their way down stream.
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    The video said around 180,000cfs coming into the lake and around 40,000cfs being released!
    No mention on how long the runoff will continue.
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    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...90002911170779

    I cannot copy the text at this link, but it is important. Official saying they lied, it is screwed, get out!

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    Since it's clear that those in charge and saying there is no threat at hand are assholes only now GOD is in control now... Lord have mercy on the souls that lay within the path of this horrible deluge. God have mercy on ALL of us!

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    If the water keeps rising as it has been, because it's not from snow melt directly (which would slow it down overnight) but water already on the ground and just moving towards the dam now...should be show time by about noon tomorrow, out here Pacific time.

    looks like we'll see some use of the emergency spillway. Who could have let it be covered with TREES? Trees? I beg your pardon. Did I just read that it is forested (as in the conceptual image) and there will be trees being dislodged? Shallow rooted, most likely as evergreens are easy peasey to knock over, as all northwesters know too well.

    and down they will go into the Feather river. Yessir, those are trees in those photos.

    Cali has tough green fabric they use to hold up hills where they are obvious land slide or falling rock dangers, such as on slopes over highways. This is tough stuff and they kept it pretty well maintained (don't know about the past couple decades). The emergency spillway should have been kept open, of course. What Bozo demanded it be planted? Or not stripped and covered properly?

    Last I heard they aren't recommending that the downstream people evacuate. Beyond madness.... did they ever hear of prudence? Caution? Due diligence?

    This is so dumb that only Michael Crichton could write it into a novel (Jurassic Park showed equally small minds that couldn't conceive of the scale and real threat of damage they were causing). Miss that great writer. Now we're left with reality.

    Ugh

    Anyone know who will get bonked on the head with a fast bath if the river is blocked and backs up?

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    "Per @William Conelly
    To all my friends, constituents, the truth about the Oroville Lake facility, if you live near the river or in any low lying areas take precautions move your equipment pick up your basements get some belongings together as there is no controlling of the emergency spill way. Period end of the BS being spread around. There is a good chance declining flows may help but why not be prepared. The out flow over the emergency spillway will be the total of the inflows into Lake Oroville. Again that total is dependant on weather conditions and precipitation. If the weather patterns change with colder conditions more snow or clearing skies we will be OK. But again it must be noted DWR screwed this up. They have lost the historic knowledge that Oroville Lake should be kept below the spillway most of the time as an event where warm rain falls on an above average snowpack may cause a need to use the spillway. It was not supposed to be used this often or so heavily depended upon. So they screwed the volume up to 70 thousand blew it up, then they claimed it was 50 thousand now even 35 thousand at least that is what Sacramento put out today.
    So to recap the emergency spillway is going to release water in an UNCONTROLLED volume why take a chance get prepared. The season isn't over yet neither is the regular spillway fixed and DWR is in charge."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadians View Post
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    I cannot copy the text at this link, but it is important. Official saying they lied, it is screwed, get out!
    Per @William Conelly
    To all my friends, constituents, the truth about the Oroville Lake facility, if you live near the river or in any low lying areas take precautions move your equipment pick up your basements get some belongings together as there is no controlling of the emergency spill way. Period end of the BS being spread around. There is a good chance declining flows may help but why not be prepared. The out flow over the emergency spillway will be the total of the inflows into Lake Oroville. Again that total is dependant on weather conditions and precipitation. If the weather patterns change with colder conditions more snow or clearing skies we will be OK. But again it must be noted DWR screwed this up. They have lost the historic knowledge that Oroville Lake should be kept below the spillway most of the time as an event where warm rain falls on an above average snowpack may cause a need to use the spillway. It was not supposed to be used this often or so heavily depended upon. So they screwed the volume up to 70 thousand blew it up, then they claimed it was 50 thousand now even 35 thousand at least that is what Sacramento put out today.
    So to recap the emergency spillway is going to release water in an UNCONTROLLED volume why take a chance get prepared. The season isn't over yet neither is the regular spillway fixed and DWR is in charge.
    William Connelly

    To all my friends, constituents, the truth about the Oroville Lake facility, if you live near the river or in any low lying areas take precautions move your equipment pick up your basements get some belongings together as there is no controlling of the emergency spill way. Period end of the BS being spread around. There is a good chance declining flows may help but why not be prepared. The out flow over the emergency spillway will be the total of the inflows into Lake Oroville. Again that total is dependant on weather conditions and precipitation. If the weather patterns change with colder conditions more snow or clearing skies we will be OK. But again it must be noted DWR screwed this up. They have lost the historic knowledge that Oroville Lake should be kept below the spillway most of the time as an event where warm rain falls on an above average snowpack may cause a need to use the spillway. It was not supposed to be used this often or so heavily depended upon. So they screwed the volume up to 70 thousand blew it up, then they claimed it was 50 thousand now even 35 thousand at least that is what Sacramento put out today.
    So to recap the emergency spillway is going to release water in an UNCONTROLLED volume why take a chance get prepared. The season isn't over yet neither is the regular spillway fixed and DWR is in charge.
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    God willing the greater population of Oroville is and/or has been evacuating!!!

    There is no bottom here, the basement has disappeared, as have the fish.


    EVACUATE NOW!!!
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    EVACUATE, EVACUATE, EVCUATE!!! Dear God Evacuate!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cascadians View Post
    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...90002911170779

    I cannot copy the text at this link, but it is important. Official saying they lied, it is screwed, get out!
    Well, yeah.

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    The Fat Man has Spoken

    Evacuate and Evacuate NOW!!!
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    Oroville Dam spillway blowout 2-9-17 Lake Orovile

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    Thank you AR!

    Folks, this dam holds the reservoir that supplies all of southern California water. If it blows tonight, it will displace MILLIONS of ppl! and wash away cities.

    This is big big big, and hardly getting any coverage.

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    The trees will cause log jams in the spillway and in the river. There is no way to predict what this disaster will cause. The river will create new channels.

    Bardou please get to safety if you have not already. Just go get a room or stay with friends. This is not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubble Head View Post
    The trees will cause log jams in the spillway and in the river. There is no way to predict what this disaster will cause. The river will create new channels.

    Bardou please get to safety if you have not already. Just go get a room or stay with friends. This is not good.
    One last time... The Fat Man Says...

    EVACUATE!!! The basement is about to disappear!
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    That is an earth dam and the base of the spillway will undercut the dam.

    This link will take you to a doppler map. You can move it around to where the dam is and see the rainfall coming in.

    http://www.kgw.com/weather/

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