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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    As for the weather 400 years ago there was no official record kept back then. But sometime about 7-8 years ago a small group of people in europe decided to try and find some clues of what really happened.
    Digging into and going over old archives revealed little, so someone suggested going to some of the older monasteries around europe and sure enough they allowed them to have a look and even helped them and they found enough written about daily life to give them a very good idea of what took place over passage of many years. The rain's and storms they have seen in europe over the last few years is only the beginning.
    So unless the Sun does a complete turn around it's only going to get colder and how bad it will get this time around? No one really knows it's almost imposable to predict what may happen more than a year or two out into the future and even then it's a shot in the dark.
    Here is a link to a doc that summarizes european weather reportrd at the time

    http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf

    you have to remember there were no thermometers in general use until late in the 1700’s
    so they report frost and cold as they describe dismal conditions developing

    it is a long and useful read
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    Quote Originally Posted by fi103r View Post
    Here is a link to a doc that summarizes european weather reportrd at the time

    http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf

    you have to remember there were no thermometers in general use until late in the 1700’s
    so they report frost and cold as they describe dismal conditions developing

    it is a long and useful read


    Thanks I saved it to my download and I have not seen this before and it's not the same report I was talking about. In my youth I had a few opportunities to read some really old private diaries from Long Island and a few carried from New England areas. Life was different and so was some of the language and or words used for some things. Deciphering the hand writing made for slow reading/understanding and the need for a very large dictionary to get the meaning of words used and some of it compleatly lost to time. So they did bring up weather events and talk of snow up so high on their body or saying as high as the eave of the house (New England area) and these diries from various people ranged in date from 1670s to mid 1800s
    Last edited by Publius; 06-13-2018 at 08:33 AM.

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    New Sunspot today and see how long this lasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fi103r View Post
    Here is a link to a doc that summarizes european weather reportrd at the time

    http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf

    you have to remember there were no thermometers in general use until late in the 1700’s
    so they report frost and cold as they describe dismal conditions developing

    it is a long and useful read
    Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It is very long; spent an hour just on the 1600's Dalton Minimum era.

    It was very depressing to read about severe famines when parents would eat their own children, so great was the hunger.

    Apparently wild extremes of weather were common; severe Winters followed by high heat and droughts in the Summer.

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    Today we what three sunspots and one of them popped up out of nowhere and its the first one in some time that actually has some size to it.

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    Interesting! I hadn't checked lately as its been so boring.

  7. #127
    Noticing it here because of degradation of my radio reception. It's not just one station, either.

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    Back to blank as in no sunspots and now 88 spotless days for the year 2018.

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    A little update we're at 93 spotless days.
    Now sooner or later or if this solar minimum racks up another 11 spotless days we will have tied the year 2017 spotless count of 104 spotless days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    A little update we're at 93 spotless days.
    Now sooner or later or if this solar minimum racks up another 11 spotless days we will have tied the year 2017 spotless count of 104 spotless days.
    Wow, thanks for that update!
    expatriate Californian living in rural Ireland with husband, dogs, horses. garden and many, many cats

  11. #131
    http://www.spaceweather.com/

    TWO+ WEEKS WITHOUT SUNSPOTS: The sun has been without spots for 15 straight days. To find an equally long stretch of blank suns, you have to go all the way back to November 2009 when the sun was emerging from the deepest solar minimum in a century. However, 15 days without sunspots is not a long time. At the nadir of that century-class solar minimum in 2008, the sun was blank for 52 consecutive days. Conclusion: Solar minimum is just beginning and we have a long way to go. Free: Aurora alerts.


    (We are currently 102 days without a sunspot for 2018, which is 52% of the year.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinecone View Post
    http://www.spaceweather.com/

    TWO+ WEEKS WITHOUT SUNSPOTS: The sun has been without spots for 15 straight days. To find an equally long stretch of blank suns, you have to go all the way back to November 2009 when the sun was emerging from the deepest solar minimum in a century. However, 15 days without sunspots is not a long time. At the nadir of that century-class solar minimum in 2008, the sun was blank for 52 consecutive days. Conclusion: Solar minimum is just beginning and we have a long way to go. Free: Aurora alerts.


    (We are currently 102 days without a sunspot for 2018, which is 52% of the year.)


    Yep and waiting for that 104 day mark in the next two days if it keeps up without a sunspot showing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    Yep and waiting for that 104 day mark in the next two days if it keeps up without a sunspot showing up.



    Ok; it's official were just matched/tied the year 2017 for 104 spotless days, We also went 17 consective days of no sunspots.

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    We have gone 21 days in a row without sunspots making it a total of 108 spotless day so far this year.

    See how long this keeps going.

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    Update!
    We have a micro sized sunspot trying to emerge and almost smack dab in the middle of the sun and will have to wait until tomorrow to see if it faded or whatever it is just hanging in there as something they think may turn into a sunspot.

    As of right now we have 111 spotless day to the year 2018 making it 55% of the year without sunspots and the current stretch is 24 days and if it makes it to 28 spotless days it will be four consecutive week's without sunspots.

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