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    18 Obama Threatens Halting DHS Paychecks if R's Don't Give Up Amnesty Fight

    Obama threatens stopping paychecks to 143,000 Homeland Security employees at month's end if Republicans don't give up fight over 'amnesty' for illegal immigrants

    Obama warned GOP against holding DHS funding hostage as they fight him on sweeping immigration policy changes that he made on his own
    President said critical DHS workers will have to work without pay after February 27 if there's no deal for the department's funding
    Republicans funded the rest of the government through September but put Homeland Security on a tighter leash
    Obama moved last year to unilaterally change immigration policy and guarantee no deportations for 5 million illegal immigrants




    President Barack Obama claimed on Monday that without a comprehensive budget covering the Department of Homeland Security, more than 130,000 mission-critical employees will be forced to work without pay by the end of the month.

    They include 40,000 employed by Customs and Border Protection, 50,000 Transportation Security Administration screeners, 13,000 Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and 40,000 Coast Guard personnel.

    Pay would be restored at the end of any withholding period.

    'I know how vital you are, and I want to make sure more Americans know how vital you are,' Obama told an auditorium full of DHS employees Monday the department's headquarters, as the White House rolled out his $4 trillion budget request for 2016.

    In addition, it's likely that 4,000 people who work for the Secret Service will see paychecks on hold if Obama doesn't strike a deal with Republicans in Congress.

    'The men and women of America's homeland security apparatus do important work to protect us, and Republicans and Democrats in Congress should not be playing politics with them,' he added.

    Republicans agreed in December to fund most of the government through September 2015, but put Homeland Security on a shorter leash in order to keep their leverage as Obama threatened to implement sweeping changes to America's immigration enforcement policy.

    DHS’s funding runs out in less than four weeks, and could be stopped entirely if Obama continues to pursue his plan to give residence and work permits to 5 million or more illegal immigrants.

    GOP leadership calls the plan 'executive amnesty,' and insists that Congress – not the White House – has sole authority to determine who may and may not legally stay in the United States.

    The president pushed back on Monday as he rolled out the larger budget designed to get America through September 2016. That budget would add $474 billion to the national debt.

    'I will not accept a budget that severs the vital links between our national security and our economic security,' Obama said.

    'Those two things go hand in hand,' he insisted.

    But that budget is likely dead on arrival since he is proposing higher taxes on wealthier Americans and job-creating companies.

    'Like the president’s previous budgets, this plan never balances – ever,' House Speaker John Boehner said Monday morning. 'It contains no solutions to address the drivers of our debt, and no plan to fix our entire tax code to help foster growth and create jobs.'

    'Worse yet, President Obama would impose new taxes and more spending without a responsible plan to honestly address the big challenges facing our country.'

    Boehner pledged that he would present a balanced budget that 'will help promote job creation and higher wages, not more government bureaucracy.'

    In the Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell charged that Obama's budget is a 'top-down, backward-looking document that caters to powerful political bosses on the Left.'

    Obama's budget includes an unprecedented $478 billion public works program that promises to repair crumbling highways, bridges and public transit systems, largely by providing jobs to Democrats' powerful labor union constituency.

    Its tax rate on capital gains – investment income – would be the highest in America since 1997.

    The president is demanding a 7 per cent increase in domestic spending and the defense budget, undoing the fiscal restraint that marked the 2011 budget deal.

    Obama called those cuts 'mindless austerity.'

    On Monday he quoted an unnamed Republican whom he said had insisted that if DHS funding were on hold, 'it's not the end of the world.'

    'I guess that's literally that's true,' the president said. 'It may not be the end of the world. But unril they pass a funding bill, it is the end of a paycheck for tens of thousands of front-line workers who will continue to have to work without getting paid.'

    That was different from what he said last week in Philadelphia, when he implied that the department would actually shut down its operations in the wake of a budget impasse.

    'What do you mean, "It's not the end of the world"?' Obama said on Jan. 29. 'That’s all you’ve been talking about. And now, suddenly, because you want to make a political point, you think that we can afford to have the Department of Homeland Security not functioning – because of political games in Washington?'

    The GOP congressman who said it wouldn't be 'the end of the world,' Florida's Mario Diaz-Balart, was referring to the fact that critical functions wouldn't stop.

    'It's not the end of the world if we get to that time because the national security functions will not stop – whether it's border security or a lot of other issues,' Diaz-Balart had told Politico.

    'Having said so, I think we should always aspire to try to get it done.'

    Obama was chastened by The Annenberg School of Communications' FactCheck.org website, which declared that he had 'fudged facts in Philly.'

    So on Monday he focused instead on a temporary stoppage of paychecks, the same phenomenon employees across all cabinet agencies saw in 2013.

    'These Americans aren't just working to keep us safe,' he said. 'They have to take care of their own families. The notion that they would get caught up in a disagreement around policy that has nothing to do with them makes no sense.'
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...mmigrants.html

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    I think I caught a whiff of extortion in the air... V

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    Quote Originally Posted by vessie View Post
    I think I caught a whiff of extortion in the air... V

    RICO! I would just let him try it, it would be the best thing that could happen.

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    n addition, it's likely that 4,000 people who work for the Secret Service will see paychecks on hold if Obama doesn't strike a deal with Republicans in Congress.
    And the first to walk should be the Obama's SS.
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    I agree!!! They should call his bluff!!!

    I hope that HHS employees chime in and agree, too!!

    And I hope that bambam's SS staff call his bluff and walk out!!
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    Too bad they're all in on it

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    Followed closely by the next false flag... to scare the masses into pressuring Congress to cave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanta View Post
    And the first to walk should be the Obama's SS.
    Hell yeah! Work without a paycheck? Bull shit. Stay the hell at home, is more like it. This arrogant prick just can't go away fast enough.
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    Call and raise him by having the States place their militia in place of DHS. I want to see his temper tantrum.
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    The DAN is running off at the mouth again and pitching one of his girly fits. If the Senate and House had a spine (which they don't) call his bluff and see what happens.

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    Obama Threatens Halting DHS Paychecks if R's Don't Give Up Amnesty Fight
    And this would be a bad thing?


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    And if Obama does, and as a result something does happen, will he be the fault? And if he is considered the fault would he be impeached or put on trail?

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    I don't think Obama can do that since the House controls the money and if he can then call him on it getting rid of the DHS would be a good thing.
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    Creating the DHS was a horrible mistake by GWB, so if Zero wants to stop paying them I think that would be terrific, so I hope the R's don't cave in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy55 View Post
    I agree!!! They should call his bluff!!!

    I hope that HHS employees chime in and agree, too!!

    And I hope that bambam's SS staff call his bluff and walk out!!


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    Sounds like a win-win to me...
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    Oh please please do it.

    I double dog dare ya to do it obaMao.


    Do it or you are a chicken

    Do it

    do it

    While your at it don't pay IRS and esp. batfeces.

    Do it chicken shit just do it

    Not that the con men of the oligarch statist tyranny will do anything. I never saw a more chicken shit group as a whole in my life time or in all the history I have read

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalen View Post
    And this would be a bad thing?


    magalen

    beat me to it

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    Sounds like the last act of a desperate man........

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    It's always sad when the magician's tricks have been seen and performed so many times, that he becomes sloppy... and the kiddies already know how he did it... and their attention wavers...

    oh look! squirrel!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozdoats View Post
    Sounds like a win-win to me...
    beat me to to it ....
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    If Bammy really wants to threaten us

    and scare the heck out of us, he would add

    the IRS and EPA, to the list of employees not getting paid

    ..... oh my !! what would we do, we can't have that {with an evil grin}

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dosadi View Post
    Oh please please do it.

    I double dog dare ya to do it obaMao.


    Do it or you are a chicken

    Do it

    do it

    While your at it don't pay IRS and esp. batfeces.

    Do it chicken shit just do it

    Not that the con men of the oligarch statist tyranny will do anything. I never saw a more chicken shit group as a whole in my life time or in all the history I have read

    Do it you chicken pathological narcissist ; motslime; queer, commie

    I dare ya to do it.
    Way to bait him and call him out Dosadi. I now have to clean my computer screen!
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    I'd agree except IIRC Coast Guard is now DHS as well...

    Some stuff that got Hoovered up is actually useful.
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    The GOP congressman who said it wouldn't be 'the end of the world,' Florida's Mario Diaz-Balart, was referring to the fact that critical functions wouldn't stop.
    The sheep won't listen to that reasoning, nor go beyond what they conceive a callous GOP say, "It wouldn't be the end of the world."

    They'll cry out, "Fie! Fie! You worthless Republicans!!!" And Obama will just sit back and smile hoping the fighting will start.

    I still say, CALL HIS BLUFF! Then let's see if you get a smile Obama!!!

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    Start calling this dingle berry's bluffs already. Don't give the goon what he wants ... give him what he deserves ... which is a pie in the face. He already looks like a fool on the world's stage, just enforce that.
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    Sounds like a win-win to me.
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    19 Republican will fold!

    We all know what will happen – a lot of crying and defeatist talk and the final – nothing we could do – as the Republicans fold!

    We all know that this is exactly what is going to take place!

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    and why would someone go to to work if no paycheck? would HE be there with no funds to support him? he seesm to think they will all 'take one for the gipper"

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    It's a bluff and I hope the GOP ignores it. According to this article, the critical DHS functions would continue even if the funding does not get passed, kinda like the "government shutdown" that wasn't noticed by most people.

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    Obama tries to get GOP to blink with Homeland Security rhetoric

    President Obama is encountering at least one major problem in his bid to shame Republicans into approving his budget request for the Department of Homeland Security: Most of the agency will continue to operate as normal, even if its funding runs out at the end of the month.

    Border Patrol agents would still conduct inspections. Transportation Security Administration officials would screen airplane passengers. And they would have the tools of a sprawling federal agency at their disposal to confront the most dangerous threats, administration officials concede.

    However, as Obama announced his proposed federal budget for next fiscal year on Monday, he focused much of his attention on the more immediate funding fight, how to keep DHS operating amid the simmering feud over his executive action to protect up to 5 million illegal immigrants from deportation.

    Obama is banking that with less than a month remaining until DHS funding expires, Republicans will blink, not wanting to be blamed for imperiling the nation's defenses against security threats.

    In many ways, the White House's approach to the DHS issue mirrors their strategy for handling the clash over the so-called sequester. As he did in 2013 when discussing the mandatory budget cuts, Obama often paints the repercussions of not getting his spending wishes as disastrous.

    When the across-the-board budget cuts finally went into effect two years ago, most Americans responded with a collective shrug.

    Even some of those aligned with the president on the DHS debate predict a similar result if Washington does not finalize a deal before Feb. 28.

    “Republicans are correct that the world will not end,” a former Obama counterterrorism adviser told the Washington Examiner. “[DHS] won't fundamentally change and Americans should not panic. It's not like they are immediately less safe. But it still doesn't look to me like Republicans have a real endgame here. That's why Obama won't budge and why he'll continue to use language that is probably a bit over-the-top.”

    The impasse over the Department of Homeland Security has been in the works for some time.

    In December, Republicans agreed to fund the federal government through the end of the fiscal year, except for DHS. Conservatives argued they would have more leverage to confront Obama on his immigration action once they took over the Senate and had the ability to force him to veto legislation.

    That theory will soon be put to the test, with Democrats expected to filibuster a House-passed bill this week that would fund the Department of Homeland Security but roll back the president's deferral of deportations.

    Even if the bill reaches the president's desk, he has vowed to veto it.

    In the meantime, Obama is using his bully pulpit to rally the public to his side.

    “Until they pass a funding bill, it is the end of a paycheck for tens of thousands of frontline workers who will continue to get — to have to work without getting paid,” Obama said from DHS headquarters Monday. “Over 40,000 Border Patrol and Customs agents. Over 50,000 airport screeners. Over 13,000 immigration officers. Over 40,000 men and women in the Coast Guard. These Americans aren’t just working to keep us safe, they have to take care of their own families.”

    The critical caveat to Obama's statement is that the overwhelming majority of such employees will continue to work. They also would likely receive back pay once lawmakers and the White House come to a resolution, as they did following the budget resolution ending the 16-day government shutdown.

    Many conservatives believe the White House is trying to scare voters to score a political victory for the president.

    “Most of this is hyperbole,” said Dan Holler, communications director for Heritage Action. “DHS will continue to function. Using the White House's logic, the other way to put it is the president is putting amnesty ahead of the safety of the country.”

    That's why some Republicans, at least at the moment, aren't overly concerned about the current state of negotiations. They believe that Obama is not operating out of a position of strength and will absorb much of the blame if a DHS deal is not reached by the late-February deadline.

    While Obama is proclaiming momentum after taking unilateral action on Cuba and immigration, Republicans counter that most Americans disapprove of how he is enacting his agenda. And they say that not confronting Obama would give him the ammunition to take constitutionally hazy action again.

    Given the advantage that Republicans have long enjoyed on issues of national security — and their relentless insistence that Obama’s policies have eroded it — Democrats are relishing now putting conservatives on the defensive.

    And even some of the most hardline opponents to Obama's executive action on immigration see a clear political incentive for his doom-and-gloom messaging.

    “Most of DHS would not shut down — I would argue there's no impact on the security of the country,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. “But if [the impasse] goes on for a long time, then it can start to be a real problem because workers don't get paid. Politically speaking, the White House rhetoric is going to resonate with some people who don't follow these events closely, just because it sounds so bad.”

    Obama's message Monday reflected such a strategy.

    “Don’t jeopardize our national security over this disagreement,” he told GOP lawmakers. "If Republicans let Homeland Security funding expire, it’s the end to any new initiatives in the event that a new threat emerges.”

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    He does not want the DHS to turn against him. I call the bluff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthog View Post
    He does not want the DHS to turn against him. I call the bluff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathy in FL View Post
    Start calling this dingle berry's bluffs already. Don't give the goon what he wants ... give him what he deserves ... which is a pie in the face. He already looks like a fool on the world's stage, just enforce that.
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    This is an old thread... But a great reminder
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    This needs to be sent far and wide to everyone. Thanks for bringing this back up to the top.

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    Not enough sleep today.
    Would this be considered kinda like a flip of what is/has been going on nowadays?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin Zen View Post
    This is an old thread... But a great reminder
    Thanks for remembering and bumping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Profit of Doom View Post
    Not enough sleep today.
    Would this be considered kinda like a flip of what is/has been going on nowadays?
    I wish "they" would address this BS and not sweep away..very frustrating
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    I must be dense, or not enough coffee, or it's the weather.

    Even though this article is dated 2/11/2019 Obama is not the President, and has absolutely NO power to do anything.

    I would note:

    Obama threatens stopping paychecks to 143,000 Homeland Security employees at month's end if Republicans don't give up fight over 'amnesty' for illegal immigrants

    Obama warned GOP against holding DHS funding hostage as they fight him on sweeping immigration policy changes that he made on his own (it's not the GOP it's the current President)

    President said critical DHS workers will have to work without pay after February 27 if there's no deal for the department's funding (where did that date come from)

    Republicans funded the rest of the government through September but put Homeland Security on a tighter leash

    Obama moved last year to unilaterally change immigration policy and guarantee no deportations for 5 million illegal immigrants
    (he wasn't President last year)

    Maybe somebody can fill me in, and get me on the same page.

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