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    FUNG RED ALERT #1: This is 1929 according to Thomas Demark

    Thomas Demark is a very knowledgeable stock market forecaster. I just finished watching his downside forecast for the Dow. He is claiming that a 60% correction is more than a possibility. With that correction, he compares our present economic difficulties with those that happened in 1929(there are major differences, by the way) This time it would be much, much more difficult for those trying to survive such a calamity.

    The reason that I'm using the Red Alert Warning on the main is this: this forecast was just broadcast on CNBC......a notorious bullish stock market site. When Demark came out with this forecast, those hosting the show had an immediate facial reaction of [B ]SHOCK AND AWE.[/B]

    There's no doubt that there is something out there that is spooking everyone. It may not be just the emerging market fiasco, the daily snow and ice storms, or the misbehavior of many who are making up their own rules as they go along. This may be something else...something
    really big.
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    http://demark.com/cm/content/market_studies.asp

    This is Demark's website. He charges, so we more than likely won't get any info there.

    Here's a piece about Demark (or from Demark) written a while ago.....Jan 11 of 2013

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...ld-and-soon-us

    Tom DeMark: "Sell The World" And Soon, The US

    01/11/2013 10:51 -0400







    Because there are still some traders who adhere to such old normal traditions as charting and technical analysis (because apparently the FOMC committee sits down each month and observes Ichimoku clouds, RSI indicators and Bollinger bands), it is probably notable that one of the most respected chartists, Steve Cohen's favorite technician Tom DeMark, is now uniformly bearish on virtually all markets around the world which have triggered a sell signal in his studies, and is about to drop the axe on the US as well where a "Daily 13" signal is imminent. The caveat, of course, is that in a world in which fundamentals haven't mattered in years, why should technicals?
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    Doc, we were already in an economic depression leading up to Christmas. But these post-Christmas job losses show that the economy is now in a deep descent - as though falling off a cliff.

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    I was at the lumber yard yesterday. While in a discussion with a friend who works behind the counter, I lamented that both the snow and the economy were getting folks really depressed.
    He stated this:

    .....at this point it's survival of the fittest"

    I've been thinking long and hard on his words.
    Sow the Wind....Reap the Whirlwind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hacker View Post
    Doc, we were already in an economic depression leading up to Christmas. But these post-Christmas job losses show that the economy is now in a deep descent - as though falling off a cliff.
    Yep, you're right. What we face, if and when this decline accelerates will be scary....since we're dealing essentially with lots of unknowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    Yep, you're right. What we face, if and when this decline accelerates will be scary....since we're dealing essentially with lots of unknowns.
    Well . . . that's what I'm saying - I think we're seeing the acceleration now. Granted, we've not seen a real hit on the markets - but given that the markets are so heavily controlled and manipulated, I view them as a trailing indicator. (I never thought I'd say that )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hacker View Post
    Well . . . that's what I'm saying - I think we're seeing the acceleration now. Granted, we've not seen a real hit on the markets - but given that the markets are so heavily controlled and manipulated, I view them as a trailing indicator. (I never thought I'd say that )
    If I can elaborate. What we're seeing in the real economy is job losses, businesses not created, and a general diversion away from economic investment. This is all a consequence of the Fed's zero interest rate policy and their purchase (monetization) of the toxic waste from the banks - it is destroying the very capital we need to create jobs/products that people want and need. Then, when you add in Obamacare, this is a further diversion of capital that is now going into the totally inefficient health insurance system.

    The Fed's policies are focused on supplying the federal government with money to cover it's reckless spending; and on propping up the markets. Thus, the Fed/government's policies that prop up the markets are going a long way toward destroying the economy.

    This is why I see the markets as a trailing indicator.

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    UM interview http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video...FyY2giOiIifQ==

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    Hedge Fund Chart Guru Tom DeMark Sees Dark Days Ahead
    By Sheelah Kolhatkar October 14, 2013




    Stock market analyst Tom DeMark spends many weekends in his home office in Scottsdale, Ariz., pondering the fate of the markets. The founder of Market Studies studies the price movements of stocks, bonds, commodities, currencies, and indices to try to determine where things may be headed, and investors pay for the privilege of knowing his thoughts. DeMark has thousands of subscribers to his company’s service through Bloomberg, and he has served as a consultant to Leon Cooperman and Paul Tudor Jones in the past. His only personal client at the moment is SAC Capital founder Steven Cohen, who has retained DeMark for 15 years as a special adviser.

    This past weekend, DeMark says, his prognostications for the stock market started to look rather bleak. His Dow Jones Index chart covering the period from May 2012 to the present seems to be tracking, almost precisely, the months leading up to the 1929 stock market crash.




    “The market’s going to have one more rally, then once we get above that high, I think it’s going to be more treacherous,” DeMark says. “I think it’s all preordained right now.” He feels this is probably irrespective of how and when the crippling impasse in Washington is resolved. “If you look at the new highs and new lows on the [New York Stock Exchange],” he says, “every time we made a higher high, there were fewer stocks in the index participating in that high. It’s getting narrower.” And once that happens, you typically get a collapse. The opposite looks to be true for gold, which he expects is making its low right now and should start to move up dramatically.

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles...ark-days-ahead

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    U.S. Stocks May ‘Unravel Quickly’, Tom DeMark Tells CNBC

    By Trista Kelley and Andrew Cinko Feb 5, 2014 8:22 AM CT

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ells-cnbc.html


    Tom DeMark, the chief executive officer of DeMark Analytics LLC, said in an interview
    on CNBC that U.S. stocks have reached an “inflection point” that resembles the period
    prior to the 1929 stock-market crash.

    “So far, everything’s aligned,” he said. “We think the next two to three days are
    extremely critical.”

    “If we were to get, just as an example, today were to be an up close,” he said. “And
    then tomorrow, we close down, and we follow a lower opening the next day and trade a
    little weaker. We’re probably going to unravel quickly.”

    “If we get a down close today and tomorrow we open lower and trade lower, we’re
    probably going to unravel. We’re watching very carefully because that sequence is very
    important.”

    The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index could plunge to about 1,100, according to DeMark.
    That would be a 40 percent tumble from its record of 1,848.38 on Jan. 15.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Trista Kelley in London at tkelley2@bloomberg.net

    To contact the editor responsible for this story: Cecile Vannucci at cvannucci1@bloomberg.net




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    TOM DEMARK: This Ominous 1929-Parallel Is Warning Of A Market Crash
    MATTHEW BOESLER OCT 16 2013, 2:12 AM 11
    Bloomberg BusinessWeek’s Sheela Kohatkar reports that widely-followed market timer Tom DeMark is feeling uneasy about the stock market, as the current pattern seems to be tracking the months leading up to the 1929 crash.

    Kohatkar relays DeMark’s comments:

    “The market’s going to have one more rally, then once we get above that high, I think it’s going to be more treacherous,” DeMark says. “I think it’s all preordained right now.” He feels this is probably irrespective of how and when the crippling impasse in Washington is resolved.

    “If you look at the new highs and new lows on the [New York Stock Exchange],” he says, “every time we made a higher high, there were fewer stocks in the index participating in that high. It’s getting narrower.” And once that happens, you typically get a collapse.

    The chart below shows what DeMark is looking at.



    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/to...-crash-2013-10

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    Yep, get ready! IMHO, this will NOT be pretty and corp-gov DOES NOT have anything left to stave off economic disaster. The FED has paid off all the big-wigs (BANKSTERS and the top 2%) and will now let the financial world fall apart. 2008 was just a warm-up!

    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    I was at the lumber yard yesterday. While in a discussion with a friend who works behind the counter, I lamented that both the snow and the economy were getting folks really depressed.
    He stated this:

    .....at this point it's survival of the fittest"

    I've been thinking long and hard on his words.

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    Ep. 185: Tom DeMark Interview with Michael Covel on Trend Following Radio

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    http://www.michaelcovel.com/2013/11/...llowing-radio/

    Posted on November 27, 2013 by Michael Covel — 4 Comments
    Synopsis: Michael Covel speaks with Tom DeMark. DeMark is the founder and CEO of DeMark Analytics and the creator of the DeMark Indicators. DeMark considers himself a market timer and believes that fundamentals are critical; however, he and Covel have a lot in common. His work is price driven and technically driven. DeMark and Covel discuss how all conceivable market factors are in the price movement; obsession, passion and practice; having the “cover story” of fundamentals, but using technical analysis behind the scenes; Elliott wave; the fibonacci sequence; forecasting; DeMark’s thoughts on George Soros, Michael Steinhardt, Paul Jones, Steve Cohen, and others; thoughts on when DeMark first started computerizing his indicators; why you’ll fail if you rely solely on charts; DeMark’s thoughts on the pure price driven, reactive trend following traders; and introducing a new variable into a pure trend following approach. Receive a free trend following DVD? Go to trendfollowing.com/win.



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    I've got CNN money in an open tab, real time updates every 2 seconds. Watch the show...

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    If the people with $$ are looking for dark days, it's hard to imagine what we the average working class can expect.

    at this point it's survival of the fittest
    is right! Problem is, how many of us fall into the 'fittest' category....

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    I was at the lumber yard yesterday. While in a discussion with a friend who works behind the counter, I lamented that both the snow and the economy were getting folks really depressed.
    He stated this:

    .....at this point it's survival of the fittest"

    I've been thinking long and hard on his words.
    This morning, I was at the gun shop in Virginia Beach where I did some target practice. The place was a ghost town. I asked the young man behind the counter, "I guess the rush to buy guns has ebbed a bit?"

    He laughed and said, "Yeah, it really has."

    I've never seen that shop - one of the biggest in the state - so empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnGal View Post
    If the people with $$ are looking for dark days, it's hard to imagine what we the average working class can expect.
    I was just talking to a friend about the same thing.

    Obamacare is wiping out jobs faster than anything I've seen in my lifetime.

    Seems even those with full-time jobs are watching their hours get cut back to part time.

    If you *wanted* to destroy a country, you couldn't write the script any better.

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    Well business is booming somewhere. Our Grinding Wheel Mfg. said yesterday that the phones were ringing off the hook with orders. I wondered to DH if that could be the shale oil side of things?

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    I would say that he would have to be pretty sure that the market is going to crash, He moves in the right areas to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty_Rose View Post

    I've never seen that shop - one of the biggest in the state - so empty.
    How much ammo did they have on the shelves? When .22 becomes available in larger quantities at normal prices then I'd say the rush is over....this time. I bet some people that rushed out and bought a $900 AR and paid $2500 for it are sucking sour grapes though. Well, at least they have it and that is what matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hfcomms View Post
    How much ammo did they have on the shelves? When .22 becomes available in larger quantities at normal prices then I'd say the rush is over....this time. I bet some people that rushed out and bought a $900 AR and paid $2500 for it are sucking sour grapes though. Well, at least they have it and that is what matters.

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    Two of my close neighbors on this rural road have been recently laid off from the (formerly) major coal company in this area. Although I am still busy at work, it gives you kind of an ominous feeling to see large coal companies that formerly were major clients scrambling to find someone to buy their approved permits that they no longer want.

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    This may be something else...something
    really big.
    Maybe people will think I'm crazy (doesn't bother me), but Arpaio and Zullo have said they will be making some information public in March which is explosive and will make the forged birth cert and selective service papers like nothing. That even if the MSM doesn't publicize it, the foreign press will. That is will involve national security. Add to that 3 or 4 Congressmen (Stockman and Bachman among them) traveling recently to Egypt, Tripoli and someplace else - also Stockman talked with Putin. Egypt claims to have hard evidence of Zeros' involvement in the Moslem Brotherhood.

    IMHO Zullo has proof of Zero's real parents, real name, real place of birth, real date of birth, and real nationality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Be Well View Post
    Maybe people will think I'm crazy (doesn't bother me), but Arpaio and Zullo have said they will be making some information public in March which is explosive and will make the forged birth cert and selective service papers like nothing. That even if the MSM doesn't publicize it, the foreign press will. That is will involve national security. Add to that 3 or 4 Congressmen (Stockman and Bachman among them) traveling recently to Egypt, Tripoli and someplace else - also Stockman talked with Putin. Egypt claims to have hard evidence of Zeros' involvement in the Moslem Brotherhood.

    IMHO Zullo has proof of Zero's real parents, real name, real place of birth, real date of birth, and real nationality.

    If they have it, put it out there now. I hope they do have it but I've heard this too many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor_fungcool View Post
    .....at this point it's survival of the fittest"

    I've been thinking long and hard on his words.
    Perfect. If those words aren't a part of everyone's lexicon and emotional battle plan, they should be.

    Quoting an item posted by DocF:

    The caveat, of course, is that in a world in which fundamentals haven't mattered in years, why should technicals?
    Real food for thought there.

    This Demark fellow sounds on target and totally entrenched in his beliefs. I'm very glad you posted this material.
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    If they have it, put it out there now. I hope they do have it but I've heard this too many times.
    You know how long it took from the Watergate breakin until trial and then convictions? I think the trial/s or whatever they were, were two to three years later. And that was NOTHING!! compared to the crimes committed. And the work is being done by a rural county sheriff and volunteers.

    And any legal investigation has to be done carefully to protect witnesses, gather as much hard evidence as can be found, and not let cats out of the bag too soon, so as not to let the other side be able to hide/scrub/destroy/get rid of witnesses and evidence.
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    Leave the darkness, come to the Light

  26. #26
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    It's 4:40 am, and I've GOT to get some sleep, so will come back to read this tomorrow.

    HOWEVER---

    does he say anything about WHERE one can save any of one's savings?

    Banks are toast. (no interest there anyway)

    Stock / bond market ABOUT to be toast. (pitiful interest for conservative investments but at least it's something)

    Gold?

    Silver?

    Gas, guns, and food???

    WHAT??????
    The only "change" I CAN believe in: I Corinthians 15: 51-52!

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    http://www.zerohedge.com

    Marc Faber "US Stocks Need To Drop 40% To Become Attractive"


    "The market is way overdue for a 20 to 30% drop," Marc Faber warns, "but that is not what worries him." Sarcastically reflecting on the typical talking-head that appears on financial media, Faber adds you won't "hear this view from someone who is fully invested," as he "hopes the market drops 40% so stocks will become - from a value point of view - attractive." The outspoken Faber channels Jim Grant as he exclaims, "the experience with quantitative easing is a complete failure. It has lifted asset prices and created asset inflation, but it hasn't lifted the standard of living of most people in the U.S. nor worldwide."
    Sow the Wind....Reap the Whirlwind

  28. #28
    He said gold will go up strongly next year. All of you stop and think for a moment but. What he is saying indirectly is that high inflation is one its way.

    When I lived in China many local Chinese took off to the big cities like Shanghai and earned three times as much as their home city. Many ended up back due to the fact that they could save more in there home city than they could earing three times as much in a place like Shanghai. Living cost took away any advantage of getting higher money.

    So I expect gold to go up but to be outpaced by things like food and living essentials in inflation.

  29. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Be Well View Post
    You know how long it took from the Watergate breakin until trial and then convictions? I think the trial/s or whatever they were, were two to three years later. And that was NOTHING!! compared to the crimes committed. And the work is being done by a rural county sheriff and volunteers.

    And any legal investigation has to be done carefully to protect witnesses, gather as much hard evidence as can be found, and not let cats out of the bag too soon, so as not to let the other side be able to hide/scrub/destroy/get rid of witnesses and evidence.
    Yes, I know that but but none of these "we have shocking information about Obama and will release it next month" claims have materialized yet. Sheriffs Joe's group has done it before, as have others like Glen Beck. Obama should be in prison. If they have information, put it out there.

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