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    NSA Bugging Info Used To Blackmail Justice Roberts?!!

    Please note the quote below... "The power to spy, is the power to control."
    Slam that into your noggins' a few times please.

    I think there is some truth to this story--else why did Roberts at literally the last moment (in the middle of the night) do a 180 and rewrite his opinion on Seotoro Care?!

    They say that this "spying" is only to catch "terrorists."

    Well maybe you've all noticed in the past few years, that the term "terrorist" has been redefined to include conservatives--and anyone else opposed to government imposed communism.

    They/them are compiling vast numbers of dossiers on conservative people with this spying program and it seems they may have caught Roberts with it.

    Links...

    http://www.naturalnews.com/040710_NS..._decision.html


    Did NSA already use its massive surveillance apparatus to hijack the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare?

    Tuesday, June 11, 2013
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
    Editor of NaturalNews.com

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040710_NS...#ixzz2Vv1LzSSJ

    (NaturalNews) "Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere... I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President..." - NSA spy grid whistleblower Edward Snowden.

    And so it begins: the power to tap the private phone calls of a federal judge or even the President. All at the fingertips of young NSA analysts who sift through masses of private data collected through the government's back doors into the servers of Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, Skype, AOL and others. (Here's the proof.)

    But if a 29-year-old working for the NSA could wiretap a federal judge, he could also wiretap a U.S. Supreme Court justice. Anything he found that was embarrassing or even incriminating could be used in a simple blackmail threat to force that justice to change his or her decision on a key issue...

    ... like Obamacare.


    What we've learned today forces us to re-examine events of 2012
    Back in July of 2012, news headlines were ablaze with the revelation that Supreme Court Justice John Roberts suddenly and unexpectedly changed his decision on Obamacare, siding with big government instead of protecting individual liberties. Many facts surrounding this sudden change of decision raise huge red flags when viewed in the context of the NSA being able to wiretap anyone's emails, phone calls and private files -- including a Supreme Court justice.

    As CBS news reported in 2012, "Chief Justice John Roberts initially sided with the Supreme Court's four conservative justices to strike down the heart of President Obama's health care reform law, the Affordable Care Act, but later changed his position and formed an alliance with liberals to uphold the bulk of the law, according to two sources with specific knowledge of the deliberations. Roberts then withstood a month-long, desperate campaign to bring him back to his original position, the sources said."

    Regardless of the strength of the supporting evidence brought to Roberts during his time of consideration for the decision, nothing caused him to budge. Roberts was inexplicably immovable, even though he was now siding against nearly everything he had argued and decided in previous court cases.

    No one could satisfactorily explain the decision... until the NSA PRISM scandal erupted. Now, we all of a sudden have a viable explanation for what really goes on behind the public headlines.

    Consider this: If a group of men had the power to peek into the private conversations of ALL Americans -- including the most powerful and influential decision makers in the nation -- why would they waste their time looking for so-called "terrorists" in the first place? There's a far more valuable use for this "omniscient" technology: collecting huge payoffs to blackmail important members of Congress, the Obama administration or the Supreme Court.


    How easy would it be to blackmail a Supreme Court Justice?
    Blackmailing a U.S. Supreme Court justice is probably easier than you might think. These justices are, of course, human, which means they all have secrets they'd rather not be made public. With its highly intrusive surveillance technology, the NSA could easily gather the usernames, passwords, emails, voice calls, text chats, photos and files of every member of the Supreme Court (and Congress, for that matter), then threaten to leak certain details to the press if they don't do what they're told.

    We don't know, of course, whether this actually happened with Roberts. His decision to flip on Obamacare could have been motivated by some other bizarre influence, but this NSA spy grid blackmail theory is the first realistic theory I've run across that would explain the sudden and inexplicable shift in his opinion.

    Think about it: The health insurance companies -- which are largely owned by globalist banks and investors -- stand to make trillions of dollars from the forced buying of insurance via the "individual mandate" that was being decided by the Court. Because the Court was almost evenly divided on the issue, the changing of the opinion of just one justice could tilt the decision in favor of the insurance industry and lock in enormous profits for years to come. So if the NSA approached the insurance globalists and said something like, "Pay us $500 million and we'll hand you the Obamacare decision," the answer would obviously be, "to where do we transfer the money?" It's a cheap investment for a windfall of long-term profits. And health insurance companies -- like any large corporations -- don't "play fair." They play to win.


    The NSA is now the most powerful organization in the world
    I hope you're beginning to fully grasp the power that is now concentrated in the hands of the NSA. An organization that has the power to covertly pry into the private lives of everyone also has the power to control everyone. There is no greater currency in Washington, of course, than to have real dirt on the people you'd like to control.

    The NSA spy grid "PRISM" program is like a Dirt Devil. It's the Dyson vortex vacuum of politics... on steroids. If there's dirt to be found on anyone, the NSA can find it. That dirt can then be used as "insurance" -- mob-style -- to make sure the people you're targeting behave in the way you want them to behave. This would include, of course, voting the correct way on key legislation or court decisions.

    Right this very minute, the NSA almost certainly has a full dossier on every member of Congress, federal judge, State Dept. employee and high-powered corporate CEO in the country. And because the creepiest people tend to rise to the top in politics, there's no doubt these files contain all sorts of graphic details on prostitutes, under-age sex, secret homosexual relationships, cheating on husbands and wives, substance abuse problems, medical problems and much more. Do you know which members of Congress have smoked pot or snorted coke? The NSA probably does. How about which members of the Obama administration have ever engaged in "experimental" gay sex in college? The NSA knows all that too, no doubt.

    This knowledge is far more valuable than any hunt for terrorists. There is no question in my mind that the NSA has already figured this out and has been using this spy grid behemoth for nefarious purposes to pull the strings of key decision makers across our society. This may be the explanation behind all sorts of inexplicable votes and bizarre decisions in Washington. The NSA might even be the puppet pulling Obama's strings, as they no doubt have all sorts of dirt on Obama's history which we already know to be largely fabricated. (Real birth certificates don't have a dozen layers stitched together in Photoshop.)


    The power to spy is the power to control
    You gotta hand it to whoever built this spy grid from the ground up. It's a brilliant covert tactic of dominant control. With all the slimebags rising to positions of power in Washington, can you imagine the absolute treasure chest of low-hanging blackmail fruit that would be easily uncovered by sifting through the private emails and phone calls of lawmakers and bureaucrats?

    Take DHS as the tip of the iceberg. Last year, several male DHS employees sued the agency, claiming they were forced to perform deviant sex acts on their female bosses. There's no question that DHS is staffed up with total perverts and sexual predators, which is why we frequently hear stories of the TSA molesting little children (the TSA is part of DHS).

    Can you imagine what the private emails and phone calls of Janet Napolitano look like? (Shield my eyes! I don't even wanna know!)

    Or Anthony Weiner, the congressman who sexted a bunch of half-nude pictures of himself to young women?

    Usually the more power hungry these people are, the more deviant and perverse they behave when they think no one is looking. That makes them all incredibly easy to be compromised by the NSA -- the techno-mob with the ultimate power to control through intimidation.

    And if the NSA can really control all these people -- or at least some of them -- it begs the question: What are the NSA's aims? Who are the people calling the shots and where do their loyalties lie?

    Ever further down the rabbit hole is this question: Are these also the same people running global terrorist networks in order to justify their own existence? Or if that's too nefarious to believe, would you believe these people might willfully look the other way with certain terror groups in order to make sure they keep operating?

    Perhaps the NSA is actually in the business of NOT catching terrorists in order to make sure its own power and financial budgets keep growing. And perhaps the NSA's real business is shaking down corporate interests that pay huge dollars to have key decisions in Washington hijacked via blackmail.

    This is far more believable that the utter nonsense explanation we're told by the media which says the NSA is "catching terrorists." Really? Show me one! In reality, there's no evidence whatsoever that the NSA has stopped even a single act of genuine terrorism that targeted Americans.

    Remember: Enormous power coupled with a complete abandonment of ethics can only lead in the direction of corruption and evil. Without checks and balances, the NSA will become a rogue criminal mafia that terrorizes everyone... and can be stopped by no one.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040710_NS...#ixzz2Vv0A0map
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    I think most all of us on THIS board recognize that it's damn near about time. And yes, the ability to trap, track, and record ANY comms makes privacy a tired joke.
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    As for Justice Roberts, I believe it is entirely possible. He "seems" like such a straight arrow.

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    Very likely had the lives of his family threatened in addition to tapping. That is the Chicago way, just think of what mobsters do and apply that to the Obummer administration. Chicago hatched Obummer upon the world as a figurehead for their strong arm cabal. You can probably trace back every major decision back to these methods. Hitlery dropping out of the democratic race for example; they threatened her and all of the Clintoons. Any time you see somebody change a big decision midstream, it can be traced to this methodology with the WH mafia.
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    DH and I were just discussing this, exact, theory last night. Pretty sure it would explain the flip-flopper's actions on Obamacare. And let's not forget how General Petraeus was skewered by the administration with the help of the MSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinmen Takezo View Post
    Please note the quote below... "The power to spy, is the power to control."
    Slam that into your noggins' a few times please.

    I think there is some truth to this story--else why did Roberts at literally the last moment (in the middle of the night) do a 180 and rewrite his opinion on Seotoro Care?!

    They say that this "spying" is only to catch "terrorists."

    Well maybe you've all noticed in the past few years, that the term "terrorist" has been redefined to include conservatives--and anyone else opposed to government imposed communism.

    They/them are compiling vast numbers of dossiers on conservative people with this spying program and it seems they may have caught Roberts with it.

    Links...

    http://www.naturalnews.com/040710_NS..._decision.html


    Did NSA already use its massive surveillance apparatus to hijack the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare?

    Tuesday, June 11, 2013
    by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
    Editor of NaturalNews.com

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040710_NS...#ixzz2Vv1LzSSJ

    (NaturalNews) "Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere... I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President..." - NSA spy grid whistleblower Edward Snowden.

    And so it begins: the power to tap the private phone calls of a federal judge or even the President. All at the fingertips of young NSA analysts who sift through masses of private data collected through the government's back doors into the servers of Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Apple, Skype, AOL and others. (Here's the proof.)

    But if a 29-year-old working for the NSA could wiretap a federal judge, he could also wiretap a U.S. Supreme Court justice. Anything he found that was embarrassing or even incriminating could be used in a simple blackmail threat to force that justice to change his or her decision on a key issue...

    ... like Obamacare.


    What we've learned today forces us to re-examine events of 2012
    Back in July of 2012, news headlines were ablaze with the revelation that Supreme Court Justice John Roberts suddenly and unexpectedly changed his decision on Obamacare, siding with big government instead of protecting individual liberties. Many facts surrounding this sudden change of decision raise huge red flags when viewed in the context of the NSA being able to wiretap anyone's emails, phone calls and private files -- including a Supreme Court justice.

    As CBS news reported in 2012, "Chief Justice John Roberts initially sided with the Supreme Court's four conservative justices to strike down the heart of President Obama's health care reform law, the Affordable Care Act, but later changed his position and formed an alliance with liberals to uphold the bulk of the law, according to two sources with specific knowledge of the deliberations. Roberts then withstood a month-long, desperate campaign to bring him back to his original position, the sources said."

    Regardless of the strength of the supporting evidence brought to Roberts during his time of consideration for the decision, nothing caused him to budge. Roberts was inexplicably immovable, even though he was now siding against nearly everything he had argued and decided in previous court cases.

    No one could satisfactorily explain the decision... until the NSA PRISM scandal erupted. Now, we all of a sudden have a viable explanation for what really goes on behind the public headlines.

    Consider this: If a group of men had the power to peek into the private conversations of ALL Americans -- including the most powerful and influential decision makers in the nation -- why would they waste their time looking for so-called "terrorists" in the first place? There's a far more valuable use for this "omniscient" technology: collecting huge payoffs to blackmail important members of Congress, the Obama administration or the Supreme Court.


    How easy would it be to blackmail a Supreme Court Justice?
    Blackmailing a U.S. Supreme Court justice is probably easier than you might think. These justices are, of course, human, which means they all have secrets they'd rather not be made public. With its highly intrusive surveillance technology, the NSA could easily gather the usernames, passwords, emails, voice calls, text chats, photos and files of every member of the Supreme Court (and Congress, for that matter), then threaten to leak certain details to the press if they don't do what they're told.

    We don't know, of course, whether this actually happened with Roberts. His decision to flip on Obamacare could have been motivated by some other bizarre influence, but this NSA spy grid blackmail theory is the first realistic theory I've run across that would explain the sudden and inexplicable shift in his opinion.

    Think about it: The health insurance companies -- which are largely owned by globalist banks and investors -- stand to make trillions of dollars from the forced buying of insurance via the "individual mandate" that was being decided by the Court. Because the Court was almost evenly divided on the issue, the changing of the opinion of just one justice could tilt the decision in favor of the insurance industry and lock in enormous profits for years to come. So if the NSA approached the insurance globalists and said something like, "Pay us $500 million and we'll hand you the Obamacare decision," the answer would obviously be, "to where do we transfer the money?" It's a cheap investment for a windfall of long-term profits. And health insurance companies -- like any large corporations -- don't "play fair." They play to win.


    The NSA is now the most powerful organization in the world
    I hope you're beginning to fully grasp the power that is now concentrated in the hands of the NSA. An organization that has the power to covertly pry into the private lives of everyone also has the power to control everyone. There is no greater currency in Washington, of course, than to have real dirt on the people you'd like to control.

    The NSA spy grid "PRISM" program is like a Dirt Devil. It's the Dyson vortex vacuum of politics... on steroids. If there's dirt to be found on anyone, the NSA can find it. That dirt can then be used as "insurance" -- mob-style -- to make sure the people you're targeting behave in the way you want them to behave. This would include, of course, voting the correct way on key legislation or court decisions.

    Right this very minute, the NSA almost certainly has a full dossier on every member of Congress, federal judge, State Dept. employee and high-powered corporate CEO in the country. And because the creepiest people tend to rise to the top in politics, there's no doubt these files contain all sorts of graphic details on prostitutes, under-age sex, secret homosexual relationships, cheating on husbands and wives, substance abuse problems, medical problems and much more. Do you know which members of Congress have smoked pot or snorted coke? The NSA probably does. How about which members of the Obama administration have ever engaged in "experimental" gay sex in college? The NSA knows all that too, no doubt.

    This knowledge is far more valuable than any hunt for terrorists. There is no question in my mind that the NSA has already figured this out and has been using this spy grid behemoth for nefarious purposes to pull the strings of key decision makers across our society. This may be the explanation behind all sorts of inexplicable votes and bizarre decisions in Washington. The NSA might even be the puppet pulling Obama's strings, as they no doubt have all sorts of dirt on Obama's history which we already know to be largely fabricated. (Real birth certificates don't have a dozen layers stitched together in Photoshop.)


    The power to spy is the power to control
    You gotta hand it to whoever built this spy grid from the ground up. It's a brilliant covert tactic of dominant control. With all the slimebags rising to positions of power in Washington, can you imagine the absolute treasure chest of low-hanging blackmail fruit that would be easily uncovered by sifting through the private emails and phone calls of lawmakers and bureaucrats?

    Take DHS as the tip of the iceberg. Last year, several male DHS employees sued the agency, claiming they were forced to perform deviant sex acts on their female bosses. There's no question that DHS is staffed up with total perverts and sexual predators, which is why we frequently hear stories of the TSA molesting little children (the TSA is part of DHS).

    Can you imagine what the private emails and phone calls of Janet Napolitano look like? (Shield my eyes! I don't even wanna know!)

    Or Anthony Weiner, the congressman who sexted a bunch of half-nude pictures of himself to young women?

    Usually the more power hungry these people are, the more deviant and perverse they behave when they think no one is looking. That makes them all incredibly easy to be compromised by the NSA -- the techno-mob with the ultimate power to control through intimidation.

    And if the NSA can really control all these people -- or at least some of them -- it begs the question: What are the NSA's aims? Who are the people calling the shots and where do their loyalties lie?

    Ever further down the rabbit hole is this question: Are these also the same people running global terrorist networks in order to justify their own existence? Or if that's too nefarious to believe, would you believe these people might willfully look the other way with certain terror groups in order to make sure they keep operating?

    Perhaps the NSA is actually in the business of NOT catching terrorists in order to make sure its own power and financial budgets keep growing. And perhaps the NSA's real business is shaking down corporate interests that pay huge dollars to have key decisions in Washington hijacked via blackmail.

    This is far more believable that the utter nonsense explanation we're told by the media which says the NSA is "catching terrorists." Really? Show me one! In reality, there's no evidence whatsoever that the NSA has stopped even a single act of genuine terrorism that targeted Americans.

    Remember: Enormous power coupled with a complete abandonment of ethics can only lead in the direction of corruption and evil. Without checks and balances, the NSA will become a rogue criminal mafia that terrorizes everyone... and can be stopped by no one.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/040710_NS...#ixzz2Vv0A0map
    Some one here may have already mentioned it, but there was a rumor going around at the time that there were some..."irregularities"...with Judge Roberts' ADOPTION of his CHILDREN from South America.

    Now, in foreign country adoptions (I know this from friends who've had to do it from China and other places), it is COMMON for prospective parents, if they EVER want their paperwork moved from the "inactive" to the "active" file, to pay so-called "fees" to certain government officials in those countries. It is EXPECTED----BY those countries' officials---and "greasing the palms" is totally expected and commonplace, in their corrupt societies, to get ANYTHING done. I have heard this, repeatedly, from immigrants in my area from Mexico and other Latin American countries as well---it is TOTALLY common to have to pay "extra" fees to ANY government official just to get them to DO THEIR JOBS.

    Yes, it is BLACKMAIL--but it is how these corrupt countries do business, it is expected, and you do not get ANYWHERE unless you go along with THEIR way of doing things.

    Now, I imagine that Judge Thomas, in adopting his kids from foreign countries, also discovered that this is the "normal operating procedure" in those countries. Want an appointment made for an official to look at your adoption papers? There's an under-the-table "fee" for that. Want the approval for you as prospective parents to be granted permission to enter the country to visit your prospective child's orphanage? There's a "fee" for that. And so forth.

    What I heard, was that Judge Roberts was going to be accused of PAYING FOR ADOPTING HIS CHILDREN---IN OTHER WORDS, "BUYING" THEM.

    Now, you can all easily see how simply having to go along with the corrupt system that is ALREADY in place in these countries, could EASILY be turned into a witch-hunt of "You BOUGHT that baby!", if 'certain' folks wanted to paint it in that light.

    Had such a charge come to light, then not only would Judge Roberts' life, reputation, and career have been destroyed, but they could have taken his children away as well, and possibly put him in jail.

    So I understand why he caved.

    These people are UNSPEAKABLY EVIL.
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    I believe Roberts was blackmailed. We, the people, have lost the country. It will be very hard to regain.
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    Unlikely we'll ever know "the truth" about why Roberts suddenly changed his position on O'bama (Doesn't) Care - but the other four justices were absolutely confounded.

    Probably all just mere coincidence, nothing to see here, move on, move on.

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    While I understand Roberts' need to protect his own children, any person in a position of public service, trust and power owes it to those he serves to also consider how his actions affect others. He protected his children, and condemned all of our children to slavery to the state.

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    I actually wouldn't doubt the premise of the article. The politicians as a whole including the executive and judiciary have so much dirt on each other what better organization than the NSA to catalog and have it ready to be used to reign in those who are getting out of line and starting to think for themselves? There have been other times that some of the darlings in the conservative movement vote in a way that doesn't seem in keeping with their stated viewpoints. This would explain quite a bit actually. In the old days it took a lot of investigative work, interviews and pounding the pavement to get dirt on the opposition. Now all it takes is several keystrokes on a secure system. The NSA certainly fits the bill for the new Gestapo but the vast majority of it is done through information warfare. Even if your not guilty....they can make you guilty. In the middle of the night they could break into your computer through the microsoft back door and load up your hard drive with kiddie porn and have the FBI raid you in the morning. Instant criminal. No, don't doubt it for a minute that they can and will do this occasionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gawarriorqueen View Post
    While I understand Roberts' need to protect his own children, any person in a position of public service, trust and power owes it to those he serves to also consider how his actions affect others. He protected his children, and condemned all of our children to slavery to the state.
    With all due respect, would YOU do something if you KNEW someone was going to take your children away from you if you did?

    That's a LOT to ask of ANYONE, and I for one will not judge him if that was the choice before him.

    How is that choice different from a policeman saying that when TSHTF, he's going to LEAVE his post and go home to protect his OWN family?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gawarriorqueen View Post
    While I understand Roberts' need to protect his own children, any person in a position of public service, trust and power owes it to those he serves to also consider how his actions affect others. He protected his children, and condemned all of our children to slavery to the state.
    He also condemned his OWN children to the same slave state. If he could have realized that, maybe he would have done the right thing anyway.

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    The only way out I can see is if he, like Edward Snowdon, goes PUBLIC with the info---that someone DID attempt blackmail on him. Then what is "hidden" cannot so easily be interpreted in a way that it is used against him.

    but I'd REALLY like you armchair-folks to THINK about what you're saying.

    Only once in my life have I heard of anyone other than God who sacrificed his OWN child to save someone ELSE's....and I'm not even sure that THAT story is not just a fictional one. Read it, and then ask yourself--and be HONEST---would you--REALLY---sacrifice your OWN child to save someone else's?

    I'm not saying that someone COULDN'T be heroic and loving enough to do it---but it would be OH, so hard---and I'm not going to browbeat anyone from my comfortable den and tell them they should have thrown their children to the wolves to save mine...

    After a few of the usual Sunday evening hymns, the church's pastor slowly stood up, walked over to the pulpit and, before he gave his sermon for the evening, briefly introduced a guest minister who was in the service that evening. In the introduction, the pastor told the congregation that the guest minister was one of his dearest childhood friends and that he wanted him to have a few moments to greet the church and share whatever he felt would be appropriate for the service. With that, an elderly man stepped up to the pulpit and began to speak,

    "A father, his son, and a friend of his son were sailing off the Pacific Coast when fast approaching storm blocked any attempt to get back to shore. The waves were so high, that even though the father was an experienced sailor, he could not keep the boat upright, and the three were swept into the ocean as the boat capsized." The old man hesitated for a moment, making eye contact with two teenagers who were, for the first time since the service began, looking somewhat interested in his story. The aged minister continued with his story, "Grabbing a rescue line, the father had to make the most excruciating decision of his life ... to which boy he would throw the other end of the life line. He only had seconds to make the decision.

    The father knew that his son was a Christian and he also knew that his son's friend was not. The agony of his decision could not be matched by the torrent of waves. "As the father yelled out, 'I love you, son!' he threw out the life line to his son's friend. By the time the father had pulled the friend back to the capsized boat, his son had disappeared beneath the raging swells into the black of night. His body was never recovered."

    By this time, the two teenagers were sitting up straight in the pew, anxiously waiting for the next words to come out of the old minister's mouth. "The father," he continued, "knew his son would step into eternity with Jesus, and he could not bear the thought of his son's friend stepping into an eternity without Jesus. Therefore, he sacrificed his son to save his son's friend. How great is the love of God that He should do the same for us. Our heavenly Father sacrificed His only begotten Son that we could be saved. I urge you to accept His offer to rescue you and take a hold of the life line He is throwing out to you in this service." With that, the old man turned and sat back down in his chair as silence filled the room.

    The pastor again walked slowly to the pulpit and delivered a brief sermon with an invitation at the end. However, no one responded to the appeal. Within minutes after the service ended, the two teenagers were at the old man's side. "That was a nice story," politely stated one of the boys, "but I don't think it was very realistic for a father to give up his only son's life in hopes that the other boy would become a Christian." "Well, you've got a point there," the old man replied, glancing down at his worn Bible.

    A big smile broadened his narrow face, and he once again looked up at the boys and said, "It sure isn't very realistic, is it? But I'm standing here today to tell you that THAT story gives me a glimpse of what it must have been like for God to give up His Son for me. You see ... I was that father and your pastor is my son's friend."


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    Roberts: Also flubbed the oath with Obama. Didn't he also write the Heller Decision, in which created the NEW definition of "ARMS" under the 2nd amendment, differentiating between Civilian "Arms" and Military "Arms" "...then, as now..." aprox pg 53 of the PDF under definitions.

    Possible Roberts is gay, and blackmailed 2x?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kook View Post
    He also condemned his OWN children to the same slave state. If he could have realized that, maybe he would have done the right thing anyway.
    The people with money believe they will have their own rule book--oh wait they already do. They believe money will protect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendwell View Post
    Roberts: Also flubbed the oath with Obama. Didn't he also write the Heller Decision, in which created the NEW definition of "ARMS" under the 2nd amendment, differentiating between Civilian "Arms" and Military "Arms" "...then, as now..." aprox pg 53 of the PDF under definitions.

    Possible Roberts is gay, and blackmailed 2x?
    I really doubt that. It is BECAUSE he was such a straight-arrow, upright person that it almightily shocked everyone when he did this 180.
    "Put up thy sword into the sheath; the cup that the Father has given me, shall I not drink it?"

    The only "change" I CAN believe in: I Corinthians 15: 51-52...

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    Being Gay is no longer a black stain, but has become a badge of honor.
    In Honor of T/S R.L. Hare (Chief Sly)and the members of 322 BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbird View Post
    Being Gay is no longer a black stain, but has become a badge of honor.
    The British that are trying to tear down America FILLED our government with misfits. Pedophiles, Marxists, socialists, Gays, Lesbians, thieves, heroine addicts, cocaine addicts, murderers and whackos. They understand that; "when example setters at the top are a mess it makes it much easier to trickle down into society".
    “Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.” – General George S. Patton

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    ‘Transformers’ Actor Tells Jay Leno in 2008 How an FBI Consultant Showed Proof of Gov’ Spy

    ‘Transformers’ Actor Tells Jay Leno in 2008 How an FBI Consultant Showed Him Proof of Gov’t Phone Spying Years Ago

    Jun. 10, 2013 4:10pm Liz Klimas

    The leaks of previous whistleblowers have been recalled and compared to that of the former government contractor who leaked to the media classified documents of the NSA’s collecting of metadata from phone conversations. But these previous whistleblowers aren’t the only ones who tried to warn of government spying.

    Hollywood actor Shia LaBeouf in 2008 during an appearance on the Tonight Show with Jay Leno detailed how he learned phone calls were allegedly being recorded.
    Shia LaBeouf

    US actor Shia LaBeouf stands on the red carpet prior the screening of “The company you keep” during the 69th Venice Film Festival on September 6, 2012 at Venice Lido. “The company you keep” is presented out of competition. (Photo: TIZIANA FABI/AFP/GettyImages)

    Promoting the film “Eagle Eye,” which according to IMDb shows how “technology of everyday life [is used] to track and control,” LaBeouf told Leno that an FBI consultant for the movie said one in five phone calls made are recorded and logged.

    “And I laughed at him,” LaBeouf said.

    And then he played back a phone conversation I’d had two years prior to joining the picture,” LaBouf continued.

    Both Leno and LaBeouf concluded it was “extremely creepy.”

    Watch the clip:

    The conversation about the clip on Reddit, which originally dredged up the segment, identified the FBI consultant for the Steven Spielberg movie.

    IMDb identifies the consultant as Thomas Knowles. A Redditor posted to Knowles’ LinkedIn page, which states he currently works as the CEO for Justus Consulting and Investigations.

    His previous work experience, as listed per his non-public LinkedIn page, included being based in Sacramento and Washington, D.C., and the Fresno Police Department.

    Here’s some of the conversation on Reddit regarding Knowles:

    captain_manatee: I know it’s fairly common for the military to consult on movies because filmmakers want expertise/ability to film military vehicles and the military wants to shape the public image. Guess the FBI does it too.

    ItsMathematics: It’s probably former FBI working as a consultant because they have expertise. Not an active FBI agent on loan from the federal government.

    ZoidbergMD: Why would he, personally, have a recording of Shia Lebeouf’s phone calls, if he wasn’t working for the government at that time?
    ItsMathematics: Good point. I wonder why the FBI would even show Shia that kind of evidence. seems like a real dumb reason to admit to a covert domestic spy program.

    Knowles talked about consulting for the film to KFSN-TV in 2008. The ABC affiliate reported Knowles being a retired FBI agent who had worked for former Congressman Tony Coelho. He said that when it comes to the film taking “theatrical lee way” with some scenes that “seem a little crazy about the FBI, I just had to step back.”Knowles doesn’t elaborate as to what these “crazy” scenes might be, but the FBI in recent year — even the last few months — has been trying to expand its capabilities

    Watch Knowles in this report:

    After the story of the NSA requesting metadata from Verizon was leaked to the Guardian last week, President Barak Obama Friday defended the program and said “no one is listening to your telephone calls.”



    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...ing-years-ago/
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    I just said this in another thread, All this NSA stuff is just another distraction to keep the masses minds off of running them down and hanging them for treason and attempted genocide. They are hoping that by flooding us with media mud they can keep us on our heels long enough to destroy us.

    Current tools used in the media Blitz:

    Gulf oil Spill
    Fukushima
    Swine Flu
    Bird Flu
    Meteorites
    NSA
    Obama's illegal Birth Certificates
    North Korea
    Iran
    Wars overseas
    Global Warming
    IRS scandal
    Gays in the military
    School Shootings
    Other Shootings
    Bomb Attacks
    Oil Well and Refinery Explosions
    Bridge Destruction
    Economy
    Gold & Silver markets
    Stock Exchange
    Obamacare
    Pirates in Africa
    etc. etc. etc.

    All of the above are important issues to Americans, but not to those trying to overthrow our country. All that matters to them is GUN CONFISCATION. Without gun confiscation all their plans FAIL. They hope that by gnawing around the edges will get us to surrender somehow. All plans are hinged around that issue.

    They are also trying to get us to rise up in order t0 crash the dollar. That way the dollar crash will be blamed on the Americans and not the Federal Reserve cartel. They will try to stay in power while that happens.

    When all fails, their Alamo or last ditch effort will be nuking a few cities, destroying general motors computer systems, shutting down natural gas, sections of grid, and communications,...before they head out to Europe and Asia with soiled shorts.....
    “Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.” – General George S. Patton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Countrymouse View Post
    With all due respect, would YOU do something if you KNEW someone was going to take your children away from you if you did?

    That's a LOT to ask of ANYONE, and I for one will not judge him if that was the choice before him.

    How is that choice different from a policeman saying that when TSHTF, he's going to LEAVE his post and go home to protect his OWN family?

    "With great power comes great responsibility."

    This is precisely why a democratic republic, such as ours was intended to be, will only be successful if those in positions of power and authority are willing to make the hardest choices. If one does not understand that, then there is little chance of understanding my position.

    As far as local police leaving to protect their own families when tshtf, I would not expect any leo who takes his oath seriously to do that. I speak here from some experience ... dh was a leo for more than 25 years, and when bad things happened (riot, hurricane, to name just a few) his first responsibility was to those he was sworn to protect. I knew that, our children knew that, and he knew that we knew it.

    "These are the times that try men's souls ..." and good men will always do what is right, even when it is difficult and every instinct tells them to do otherwise. Unfortunately, we have too few Americans today who understand, or expect that.

    JMHO, YMMV

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