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    A Sign of the Mahdi’s Return: Comet ISON in 2013?

    A Sign of the Mahdi’s Return: Comet ISON in 2013?

    Posted by Matt on March 6, 2013 [Subscribe Here]

    A sign before the return of the Mahdi: “a star will appear in the East giving out as much light as the moon.”

    They [comets] are one of the most spectacular views a human could hope to see – and next year [2013] a comet which could outshine the moon is due to fly by the Earth.

    Comet ISON is visiting the inner solar system and is set to put on spectacular views for the Northern Hemisphere across November and December as it heads towards the sun.

    It may prove to be brighter than any comet of the last century – visible even in broad daylight – and this may end up being its one and only trip to the solar system, as its trajectory may see it plunge into the sun in a fiery death.

    Comet ‘brighter than the moon’ will fly-by the Earth in 2013 | Mail Online

    According to Moojan Momen, among the most commonly reported signs that presage the advent of the Mahdi in Shia hadith are

    1. Before his coming will come the red death and the white death. The red death is the sword and white death is plague. (see also Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse)
    2. Several figures will appear: the one-eyed Dajjal, the Sufyani and the Yamani. Another figure, the Pure Soul (an-Nafs az-Zakiyya), will be assassinated.
    3. The sun will rise from the West and a star will appear in the East giving out as much light as the moon.
    4. The Arabs will throw off the reins and take possession of their land, throwing out the authority of the foreigners.
    5. A caller will call out from heaven.
    6. There will be a great conflict in the land of Syria until it is destroyed.
    7. Death and fear will afflict the people of Baghdad and Iraq. A fire will appear in the sky and a redness will cover them.

    Signs of the Mahdi

    Ka’b said: “It is a star that rises from the East and illuminates for the people of the Earth like the illumination of a moon in a full-moon night.” (Nuaim bin Hammad’s book Kitab Al-Fitan)

    Signs Before the Mahdi

    New Comet Discovered—May Become “One of Brightest in History”

    Even with powerful telescopes, comet 2012 S1 (ISON) is now just a faint glow in the constellation Cancer. But the ball of ice and rocks might become visible to the naked eye for a few months in late 2013 and early 2014—perhaps outshining the moon, astronomers say.

    The comet is already remarkably bright, given how far it is from the sun, astronomer Raminder Singh Samra said. What’s more, 2012 S1 seems to be following the path of the Great Comet of 1680, considered one of the most spectacular ever seen from Earth.

    “If it lives up to expectations, this comet may be one of the brightest in history,” said Samra, of the H.R. MacMillan Space Centre in Vancouver, Canada.

    New Comet Discovered—May Become “One of Brightest in History”

    We have never seen anything like a comet that shines as bright or brighter than the moon. But is this really a sign of the Mahdi’s coming return?

    What I do know is that the planet is at a tipping point in a couple of key areas:

    1. Financial
    2. Potential for revolution
    2. Conflict – war

    Today, there is financial trouble in the US, Europe and Japan. China appears to have the potential for a large financial bust. Both Chinese and Russian leaders are concerned about the potential for revolution. China and Japan appear to be at a tipping point concerning the Senkaku Islands which could easily suck in the US. Russia appears to be at a tipping point concerning western interference in the affairs of other countries, and has made several implied nuclear threats if it doesn’t stop. Israel and the US appear to be at a tipping point concerning Iran’s nuclear program and may attack.

    With so many countries at a tipping point, it wouldn’t be that hard to start a cascading effect leading to nuclear war between the major powers. If that happens, then there is an opening for the rise of Islam. There is some evidence that 666 is actually Arabic script for “In the Name of Allah.” Check out this article: Going from Greek 666 to “In the Name of Allah”.

    In conclusion, there is some merit to taking comet ISON seriously.

    Here are some additional signs:

    Some Shia prophecies foretelling the arrival of the 12th imam – the Mahdi.

    1. One tells of the ruler of Egypt being overthrown, resulting in many conflicts.
    2. One points to an uprising in Yemen.
    3. One refers to the death of the ruler of Saudi Arabia. (The Iranians are reporting that King Abdullah is either dead or on his deathbed.)
    4. “Before the return of Mahdi, a tall black man will rule the West and the largest army on Earth. He will carry a ‘clear sign’ from my son, Hussein Ibn Ali (the third Shiite imam), do not fear him!” The tradition concludes: “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.” Obama’s first and second names—Barack Hussein—mean “the blessing of Hussein” in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means “he is with us,” the magic formula in Majlisi’s tradition.

    An official website run by the Iranian government keeps close track of all these events [Shia prophecies] and expresses the Iranian leaders’ excitement about them with the promise that the reappearance of Mahdi is close. They conclude that all the signs are in place and the reappearance is awaiting just one condition: worldwide wars, chaos and famine, in which two-thirds of the world’s population dies. They even have prepared a documentary to be translated into Arabic and distributed throughout the Muslim world announcing this great news: “In this extraordinary time of our history, the world will see the greatest events of all, events that will see the glorification of Islam not only in the Islamic countries, but the world. The reappearance is close.”


    … In another recent statement, Gen. Naghdi promised the Basij commanders that soon both Israel and the United States would be destroyed. He continued: “With the destruction of these two evil countries, the world will become free of oppression.”

    KAHLILI: Iranian regime: Israel’s days are numbered – Washington Times


    http://www.1913intel.com/2013/03/06/...-ison-in-2013/

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    I think they are going to be a little more than disappointed when this does not woke out for them.

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    Iran Reports Saudi King’s Death: A Green Light for War?
    May 31, 2013 By Ryan Mauro Comments (7)



    DF684847-575D-4A75-9B0A-7C8886FF2663_mw1024_n_sThe Iranian state-controlled press is bringing attention to an Arabic report that Saudi King Abdullah is “clinically dead,” only holding onto life because of a ventilator. A film allegedly produced by Iranian President Ahmadinejad’s office in 2011 argued that Abdullah’s death will be a major prophetic sign signaling the “imminent reappearance of the Mahdi.”

    The Iranian media is referencing a report in ASharq Alawsat that relies on unidentified “medical” sources to confirm that King Abdullah’s vital organs have stopped working. It observes that Abdullah hasn’t been seen in public and is being represented by Crown Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz. However, the Iranian media does note that the Arabic paper previously reported Abdullah’s death in 2012 after he had intensive back surgery.

    Ahmadinejad’s office allegedly produced a film titled “The Coming is Upon Us” and it teaches that the Islamic messiah named the Hidden Imam or as the Mahdi will soon arrive. He is prophesied to appear and bring a miraculous victory over the enemies of Islam during a final grand war.

    The film teaches that the death of Abdullah will be a fulfillment of prophecy that sets the stage for this last conflict. It even encourages his assassination, saying, “Whoever guarantees the death of King Abdullah in Saudi Arabia, I will guarantee the imminent reappearance of the Mahdi.” It is unclear what immediately follows his death according to this interpretation of Islamic prophecy, but the filmmakers are certain it is the trigger for huge events.

    The overall message of the film is that Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, Iranian President Ahmadinejad and Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah were foretold in Islamic prophecy as the ones who will wage war with the Mahdi against the “Antichrist” and “the imposters,” meaning the U.S., Israel and the West’s Arab allies.

    Ayatollah Khamenei is said to be the fulfillment of a prophetic figure named Seyed Khorasani, also referred to as “the preparer” for his role in setting the stage for the Mahdi’s appearance.

    President Ahmadinejad is said to be the incarnation of Shoeib-Ebne Saleh, the commander-in-chief of Khorasani (Khamenei) who will capture Jerusalem on “the threshold of the Coming.” He is to lead a coalition of Arab countries in this war and the film argues that the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood will allow this to happen.

    Hassan Nasrallah is said to be the embodiment of Yamani, a military commander that leads a march to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

    The film lists several prophecies that were allegedly fulfilled, but the death of Abdullah is the one given the most emphasis. In a possibly related development, the Iranian media is reporting that the government is deploying a “massive” amount of long-range missiles that can “crush the enemy.”

    The presidential election is on June 14 but the inauguration of the new president won’t happen until August. Ahmadinejad cannot run for a third consecutive term and the candidacy of his protégé, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, was disqualified by the Guardian Council. If the film reflects the personal views of Ahmadinejad, then he only has around three months to fulfill his duties as the prophesied Shoeib-Ebne Saleh.

    If Ahmadinejad is to carry out the agenda articulated in the film, then he must have the approval of Supreme Leader Khamenei. The two are engaged in a power struggle and it is often said that Khamenei does not share the eschatological views of Ahmadinejad.

    There are indications that Khamenei is not at odds with Ahmadinejad when it comes to their role in prophecy. In July 2010, a senior cleric claimed that Khamenei told his inner circle that he had met the Mahdi, who promised to return while Khamenei remained alive. When mostly-Shiite protesters challenged the pro-American monarchy of Bahrain, a representative of Khamenei said it is “the best opportunity to begin setting the stage for the emergence of the 12th imam, our Mahdi.”

    Khamenei representatives have encouraged comparisons between Khamenei and Syed Khorasani. Iranian defector “Reza Kahlili,” who released the film, said it includes about 10 minutes of senior clerics endorsing its content. However, a senior seminary school in Qom rebutted the film.

    Luckily, Syria’s civil war is preventing an alliance between Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood, who are on opposite sides of the conflict. As of right now, Iran is unable to lead the Arab coalition whose formation must precede the taking the Jerusalem and arrival of the Mahdi. However, the elements of the Iranian regime that believe in the thesis of “The Coming is Upon Us” may feel that a provocative action will unite the region.

    The bottom line is this: If the Iranian leadership believes in the film it allegedly produced, then the reported death of Saudi King Abdullah will be interpreted as a green light for destructive things to happen.

    This article was sponsored by the Institute on Religion and Democracy.

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/ryan-ma...b1ca-156533821

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    This is a really important development folks not just because of what he-the Mahdi, represents for Shia Islam, and Islam in general but Christianity as well. There are two scholars you should pay attention to. Jack Smith, a biblical scholar and Timothy Furnish, an academic scholar who studies the phenomena of 'Mahdiism'. Furnish monitors the developments in Madhiism in Islam at his blog Mahdiwatch. His book, 'Holiest Wars' is a must read for understanding Mahdiism. Jack Smith's latest book, 'Islam: Cloak of the AntiChrist' with a forward from Furnish makes the argument, quite strongly IMO, that the 'Mahdi' of Islamic eschatology is the 'AntiChrist' of Christian eschatology. If you follow that argument, that the Mahdi is the 'AntiChrist', and that Mahdi is here, who has yet to reveal himself cf. MahdiWatch reports, then the Anti-Christ is here. It also means that if Islamic eschatological prophecy is fulfilled, subsequently so too will Christian echatological prophecy.

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    What ever way you look at it we are headed to World War Three soon. This will not be another little war that effects little on the average persons life in the West. This war will radically effect our lives for what is left of them.

    For you in the States the biggest effect straight off will be gasoline prices. This will in turn force food costs to go crazy as your agriculture and food distribution is highly dependent on gasoline.

    I read here on TimeBomb the other day that Iran has given the go for it for terrorist cells in the U.S. and it fits in with the above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamestheFin View Post
    This is a really important development folks not just because of what he-the Mahdi, represents for Shia Islam, and Islam in general but Christianity as well. There are two scholars you should pay attention to. Jack Smith, a biblical scholar and Timothy Furnish, an academic scholar who studies the phenomena of 'Mahdiism'. Furnish monitors the developments in Madhiism in Islam at his blog Mahdiwatch. His book, 'Holiest Wars' is a must read for understanding Mahdiism. Jack Smith's latest book, 'Islam: Cloak of the AntiChrist' with a forward from Furnish makes the argument, quite strongly IMO, that the 'Mahdi' of Islamic eschatology is the 'AntiChrist' of Christian eschatology. If you follow that argument, that the Mahdi is the 'AntiChrist', and that Mahdi is here, who has yet to reveal himself cf. MahdiWatch reports, then the Anti-Christ is here. It also means that if Islamic eschatological prophecy is fulfilled, subsequently so too will Christian echatological prophecy.
    Thanks for the post JamestheFin. This fits right in with Joel Richardson's thesis expounded in his book 'Mideast Beast.' It has long puzzled me why the Muslims were getting so many favors from the Western 'Powers-that-be'; however, after reading Joel Richardson's book, it made so much sense. It's my feeling that the Antichrist, who is currently hiding behind the curtain, will show himself as the Mahdi; so, in order to prepare for his appearance, he has to coerce all the political powers to promote a pro-Muslim facade. It's the only thing that makes sense of a Western world so eager to bow down to Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamestheFin View Post
    This is a really important development folks not just because of what he-the Mahdi, represents for Shia Islam, and Islam in general but Christianity as well. There are two scholars you should pay attention to. Jack Smith, a biblical scholar and Timothy Furnish, an academic scholar who studies the phenomena of 'Mahdiism'. Furnish monitors the developments in Madhiism in Islam at his blog Mahdiwatch. His book, 'Holiest Wars' is a must read for understanding Mahdiism. Jack Smith's latest book, 'Islam: Cloak of the AntiChrist' with a forward from Furnish makes the argument, quite strongly IMO, that the 'Mahdi' of Islamic eschatology is the 'AntiChrist' of Christian eschatology. If you follow that argument, that the Mahdi is the 'AntiChrist', and that Mahdi is here, who has yet to reveal himself cf. MahdiWatch reports, then the Anti-Christ is here. It also means that if Islamic eschatological prophecy is fulfilled, subsequently so too will Christian echatological prophecy.

    I tend to correlate all this with "I, Pet Goat II" (look it up on You Tube) a 'new age' video that the makers said they just 'came up with' when they sort of "let themselves go" and just free-style drew whatever came into their heads (does that remind you of the "automatic writing" Edgar Cayce experienced when under the control of the 'spirits'? It should).

    The film shows first Bush, then Obama, in that 9-11 classroom (both begin as puppets on a string, with the Devil manipulating the puppets behind the scenes) and then after Obama comes war---you see the 'towers' falling (even though that happened under Bush--a repeat? A worse re-enactment?) following immediately by images of missiles, WAR, and a middle eastern-Islamic-clothed woman mourning her dead child, as a thermonuclear mushroom cloud rises in the background. The film goes through many other scenes, but with a repeated theme of an "asleep" Christ-figure, floating on a boat, coming closer and closer to His 'awakening' and revealing to the world---and by the end of the film, the "Christ"-figure suddenly gasps as He comes awake, and the boat he is in emerges from a fissure in a rock (cave) to emerge out onto the open sea, when He stands in His boat facing the sunrise as missiles (or comets?) fly overhead and strike various places.

    "Automatic writing"....."automatic video-creating"....same source, imo..........

    You can find the original "I, Pet Goat II" at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6nCa_OTEM

    (additional note---in re-watching the video just now, I just saw that, right after the scene in which a sniggering Obama takes the place of Bush, the view zooms out to outside the school, showing the American flag tearing loose from its flagpole and blowing away in a high wind.

    This video was made in JULY 2012.

    One month BEFORE the scene at the 2012 Olympics, where -- during the words of our National Anthem "that our flag was still there"--our flag suddenly WASN'T there, as it TORE OFF and BLEW AWAY.

    http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/amer...edal-ceremony/

    One month BEFORE.

    I just sense there is really something terribly 'wrong' about this video---but it does give you an insight into what the Enemy is thinking, and planning...
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    I watched the video and the flag was torn in half. cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamestheFin View Post
    This is a really important development folks not just because of what he-the Mahdi, represents for Shia Islam, and Islam in general but Christianity as well. There are two scholars you should pay attention to. Jack Smith, a biblical scholar and Timothy Furnish, an academic scholar who studies the phenomena of 'Mahdiism'. Furnish monitors the developments in Madhiism in Islam at his blog Mahdiwatch.
    Thanks- Here is Timothy Furnish's blog; looks like it will be worth spending some time there....

    http://www.mahdiwatch.org/

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    ive been trying to learn as much as possible about the mahdi and the end times prophecies and have read several books. walid shoebats book 'Gods War on Terror, Islam and Bible Prophecy' lays it out very good and i recommend it. in a nutshell, muslim end times prophecy is like a mirror image of the bible.

    their savior is the mahdi who comes at a time of war and chaos to bring peace. with him comes Jesus, a Jesus who will say he is really a muslim and that the christians and jews got it all wrong, that he is not Gods son, that he did not die on a cross and he did not pay for anyones sins. . this muslim jesus will tell christiasn and jews to convert. if they refuse he will make war on them at the behest of the mahdi and kill them. once they are killed off there will be peace in the world, a muslim peace where everyone is either muslim or dead. this muslim jesus will take away the tax put on non muslims--sorry forgot the name of it, which means one must convert or die. however, during this attempt to kill resisters, they say satan will come from the sky and the muslim jesus will fight him in or over jerusalem in a huge war but the muslim jesus will win. and all muslims live happily ever after.

    i left out some details, but i thought their belief of what is going to happen was kind of stunning. it so closely resembles the book of revelations but their guy is the hero and the real Jesus is the evil one that they are supposed to fight against when he comes.

    the mahdi as the antichrist is a distinct possibility. i know westerners think the antichrits comes out of the old roman empire and lean towards a western antichrist due to the statue of nebuchanezzer in daneil with the 2 legs being interpreted as roman empire, but we forget about the caliphate, the ottoman empire.

    it covered that whole area too, for more than 600 yrs. it was ended after ww1 and died. kinda like got a blow to the head and died. shocked the muslim world. and also interesting is the work to rebuild it going on right now. it will come alive again. turkey has said they believe the caliphate should be reestablished and be based in turkey as it originally was, iran says thats ok with them and it will be for the mahdi.

    i think the mahdi as the antichrist and the muslim jesus as the false prophet could fulfill prophecy. their description of what the mahdi and muslim jesus will do when they come is what our bible says the antichrist will do. pretty fascinating stuff and i think all christians should learn up on this and pay attention.

    us westerners just ASSUME the antichrist will be a westerner because we assume the legs of the statue to be the roman empire. what if its the caliphate? that fits too. check out shoebats book. a palestinian muslim who hated jews and wanted to kill them but by some miracle converted to christianity and is warning westerners of what the muslims are planning to do and are doing now to further their goals of the coming mahdi and the end times. his details are well, kinda eye opening.

    edof yearsthedaniels vision butthis bears looking into. whi remember last year hearing of a speech ahmendinajad giving saying the mahdi is here now, he and the supreme leader kahmeneni are in contact with him and they are waiting for the right time for his public presentation to the world. a great war must occur. a war that the mahdi will end with a 7 year peace treaty between a jew, a westerner and a muslim. irans leaders know iran will be 'sacrificed' in the name of bringing forth the mahdi to the world stage and they are ok with that. and the front runner to take over ahmendinajads place is even more hard line than him. scary dude. the mahdi will establish and reign over a new muslim caliphate. and we all know about ahmendinejads speeches at the un saying the time of the mahdi is coming and is very near and will bring world peace and we all must prepare for his arrival.

    i think these guys are crazy but just because they are crazy doesnt mean we can dismiss them. they have their own end times agenda and it is bloody and they dont care how many die to bring in the reign of their mahdi.

    jamesthefin, thank you for the reference to smith and furnish, i will certainly look them up.

    christians need to pay attention to the mahdi news coming out. to truly understand we have to stop thinking like westerners and start thinking like them to really understand whats going on. these guys are not fooling around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imaginative View Post
    Thanks- Here is Timothy Furnish's blog; looks like it will be worth spending some time there....

    http://www.mahdiwatch.org/
    imaginative...Thanks for the link to Furnish's blog. Looks to be a real "non politically correct" site worth reading.

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    Valerie Jarret, the actual president according to many reports, is an Iranian American.
    Hmmmm....
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